Wrecked 240SX

[whateverjames]

not mine fool. someone sent me pictures of their 240SX. he's emailed me a few times and this last time he wrote that ran into the back of a truck and his passengers seat belt worked, but the driver side seatbelts failed. his head hit the window and the engine went through the firewall and smashed his knees. he says his knees need surgery because of this. he wanted me to add a warning on my site about the seat belts of the 240SX.

so i have a question. where can i find the recalls about cars? nissan had a recall about the timing chain and faulty seat belts. the red button of the seat belt can get cracked and keep the seat belt from fully locking. can someone help me find info about this? just want to help out fellow 240SX owners so someone doesn't die over a bad seat belt. most 240SX owners are not original owners and did not get a letter from nissan.

and before one of you people say 'what an idiot, he shouldn't have run into the back of the truck', ask yourself, were you there? did you know everything that happened, or the conditions of the road? so lets try not to make comments about that. <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/sly.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':sly:'>

[Itsuki]

Dang that sucks hope your freind is ok..

[whateverjames]

forgot the pictures...

http://whateverjames.com/Mvc-001f.jpg
http://whateverjames.com/Mvc-002f.jpg
http://whateverjames.com/Mvc-003f.jpg
http://whateverjames.com/Mvc-004f.jpg

[KiDyNomiTe]

After reading that and seeing the pics i got that funny tingle in my spine. Is his head alright. How fast was he going when he hit the truck? I used to know what the site for recalls was, but I forgot, I will see if I can find it.

[whateverjames]

i wish i hadn't deleted the email (didn't mean to). but i remember him saying it was at 40mph. he didn't give many other details, unfortunately. i'll have to email him back.

[Yosho]

I would think the easiest way would be to simply call up a Nissan dealership (ask for the service manager). If you feel they're not giving you the right information... simply ask for the 1-800 Nissan information/help #. They're required to give it to you if you ask (this is where you can call and tell Nissan USA that the dealership gave you a hard time). &nbsp;I doubt you'll need to do that though... we never had a problem giving this kinda information out at the dealership I worked at. &nbsp;It's easy to bring up in the computer and only takes a few minutes.

[Natty]

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damn, that is the worst 240sx wreck I have seen. That first pic is just plain scary. That is my car, basically, except I have a 1991 with a better bumper &nbsp; <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/wink.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=';)'>
I would love to know about mroe recalls. I didn't care about safety when I bought my car, but afterwards, I was basically told it is a very safe car. I still think it is safe though...
On a sidenote, I wonder where his tranny ended up &nbsp;<img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/crazy.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':crazy:'>
Hope he turns out okay though.
Jeff

[camppain]

dsc has that link for recalls on his site its nhta or something like that

[Dark]

I hope this is what you are looking for

NHTSA Service Bulletins (http://www.nhtsa.dot.gov/cars/problems/tsb/Index.cfm)

<img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/cool.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':cool:'>

[adey]

Wow. Scary as that is, I'm surprised as to how well the front crumple zone (whole engine bay, apparently) took up the impact. I mean, the car is totalled, and the guy seems to have some medical issues from the crash, but just from a crash dynamics point of view-- the doors didn't seem to buckle and the windshield didn't crack.

Of course, if the guy really was going 40mph (assuming the truck wasn't in reverse at 40mph as well) then our cars look kind of shit for safety- or at least compared to some of the safer cars these days. for example, I saw an Audi TT that was in a frontal <50mph crash, and there was close to no frame damage; all that needed to be replaced were front bumper/cross member (bumper support thingy), radiator, and a few other little things up front. Or at least the guy claimed it was a 50mph crash. I must admit that it seemed unlikely that it was even in excess of 40mph given the damage, but still...

[HippoSleek]

ugh - pics like that make me want to walk <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/sad.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':('>

I've got to agree though that for a 40 mph frontal collision, that doesn't look bad. &nbsp;Considering.

What I can't get over though is that the windshield didn't break. &nbsp;Having seen quite a few wrecked cars where people hit the windshield - it always breaks. &nbsp;That one looks great? &nbsp;In a 40 mph impact, if the seatbelt failed, I don't see how he could have hit so softly as to not break the glass. &nbsp;That happens at 20 mph? &nbsp;Do we know WHERE it failed (catch, floor, belt itself)? &nbsp;Or when?

Mark
-who likes his airbags

[BEISSEN]

damn that is some scary stuff man.But for a 40mph impact that look pretty minor minus the damage that the guy suffered and the car.

[Annoying Eric]

In 93 Nikki Taylor, the super model was in a nissan that got intoa &nbsp;car accident, and the seat belt cut her liver in half, thats why im looking to change my seat belts real soon. I hear that if you don't wear the lap belt then you might not die but if you only where the shoulder strap then it will not work at all cause its all fucked up.. and where the hell the shoulder strap for the back seats go into? i ended up taking them out, and putting a monster plug in the holes. its looks better now.

[chickenmanq]

Two words: &nbsp;Five points.

[HippoSleek]

Eric - Niki Taylor was damb lucky that's all that happened given the impact! &nbsp;All reports I heard were that she was lucky to have made it out at all.

Removing or improperly wearing your seat belts is one of the dumbest things you can do in a car. &nbsp;Standard issue (good working) 3 point passenger car belts are as much safety as belts can provide in a street car. &nbsp;

1) &nbsp;Lap belt alone will cut you in two and allow you to hit the wheel/windshield.

2) &nbsp;Shoulder belt alone (for those w/ mouse belts) will force you to "submarine," which yields broken legs and head trauma.

3) &nbsp;Multi-point harnesses don't allow you the range to movement to safely drive in traffic (e.g., turning to check blind spots, scooting forward to look around parked cars/hedges/etc. when pulling out). &nbsp;Plus, they should never be used w/o roll over protection - unless you like the idea of your neck being a fulcrum for a 2700 lb. automobile.

Which leaves 3 pts. &nbsp; Enough to keep you in, keep you up, keep you back, and allow you to slide to the side should you end up shiny side down.

I'd return any rear belts and make sure you wear both parts of the other!

OT: &nbsp;this topic got me to thinking about something - before the industrial revolution, the only way people got maimed was from something like a fall. &nbsp;Now it happens all the time in cars and at work. &nbsp;Imagine having no concept of anything but a natural causes-type death. &nbsp;Weird.

[Dark]

Could you change the seatbelt to the version found on the canadian 240sx? &nbsp;<img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/notify.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':notify:'>

[uuninja]

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (HippoSleek @ July 14 2002,2:17)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">OT: this topic got me to thinking about something - before the industrial revolution, the only way people got maimed was from something like a fall. Now it happens all the time in cars and at work. Imagine having no concept of anything but a natural causes-type death. Weird.</td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'>
Yeah but they had to contend with leprosy, the plague and predation. <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/wink.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=';)'> Don't forget warfare, that maimed tons of people. Also amputation was a common method to repair broken limbs. &nbsp;<img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/crazy.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':crazy:'>

[whateverjames]

cool. thanks for the link. here's what i found. by the way, don't cry, i'm not yelling at you guys, i'm copying and pasting and they just 'happened' to type in all caps &nbsp;<img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/dozingoff.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':zzz:'>

Defect Summary:
THE FRONT SAFETY BELT BUCKLE RELEASE BUTTONS CAN BREAK. THESE RED PLASTIC RELEASE BUTTONS ARE MARKED "PRESS." IF A BUTTON BREAKS, PIECES CAN FALL INTO THE BUCKLE ASSEMBLY CAUSING THE BUCKLE TO OPERATE IMPROPERLY.
Consequence Summary:
THE SAFETY BELTS WOULD NOT PROVIDE ADEQUATE PROTECTION TO AN OCCUPANT IN A VEHICLE CRASH.
Corrective Summary:
OWNERS SHOULD PROMPTLY CHECK THE CONDITION AND OPERATION OF BOTH FRONT SAFETY BELT BUCKLES AND CAREFULLY INSPECT THE RED RELEASE BUTTON FOR ANY BREAKS OR CRACKS. THEY SHOULD ENSURE THAT BOTH BUCKLES ARE OPERATING PROPERLY BY INSERTING EACH LATCH PLATE INTO ITS BUCKLE, TUGGING ON THE BELT TO MAKE SURE THE LATCH IS SECURELY LOCKED, AND THEN PRESSING THE RELEASE BUTTON. THE LATCH PLATE SHOULD POP OUT OF THE BUCKLE WHEN THE BUTTON IS PRESSED. IF EITHER RELEASE BUTTON SHOWS A SIGN OF BREAKING OR CRACKING OR IF EITHER BUCKLE FAILS TO OPERATE PROPERLY, OWNERS SHOULD PROMPTLY CONTACT THEIR AUTHORIZED DEALER TO SCHEDULE AN APPOINTMENT TO HAVE THE BUCKLE REPLACED OR REPAIRED FREE OF CHARGE