View Full Version : AIM Sports Dashes & Data Acquisition
Macadoshus
11-29-2006, 01:09 PM
This is the stuff for everyone getting serious about their cars for next season. These units replace your factory dash and allow you to data log whatever sensors you have hooked up to them. Each model has slightly different features, the main ones which are listed below along with links to the Aim Sports site for more information.
The prices listed are MSRP. PM me for your price. These will be the best prices you can find anywhere on these guaranteed! Once this deal has gone through the prices will go up. The good news is, if more people get in on this initial purchase the price will go down a little more.
http://www.aimsports.com/images/products/product_m3plus_auto.jpg
http://www.aimsports.com/products/m3-plus-auto/index.html
$649
http://www.aimsports.com/images/products/product_m3gold_auto.jpg
http://www.aimsports.com/products/m3-gold-auto/index.html
$849
http://www.aimsports.com/images/products/product_M3xglog.jpg
http://www.aimsports.com/products/m3-xglog/index.html
$999
http://www.aimsports.com/images/products/product_mxl_strada.jpg
http://www.aimsports.com/products/mxl-strada/index.html
$999
http://www.aimsports.com/images/products/product_mxl_pista.jpg
http://www.aimsports.com/products/mxl-pista/index.html
$1799
http://www.aimsports.com/images/products/product_mxl_pro-2005.jpg
http://www.aimsports.com/products/mxl-pro/index.html
$2299
I need to know who is really interested and which unit you would want and what sensors you plan on running with the unit. Just post here, pm or email me (
[email protected]) and I can get you an exact quote. We will be placing this order within the next couple weeks, so let me know if you want in on this.
Also, if you see anything else on the AIM sports site that you may want, let me know.
Mac
A Spec Products
11-29-2006, 01:22 PM
Yeahhhh son, pimp shit
AIM stuff is the realness
Buy from Mac guys, fool is mad legit
Jung918
11-29-2006, 02:57 PM
Does it connect to all the stock sensors or does it come with new sensors.
Does it need to be purchase separately?
n addition, the MyChron 3 Gold Auto has 4 fully configurable analog inputs: temperatures (thermocouples – thermoresistors), pressures (Oil – Fuel – Airbox), potentiometers, potentiometers (suspension travel – brake pedal displacement – throttle pedal displacement – steering angle – roll angle), Lambda sond, “on-board/stock” sensors, or custom made sensor configurations, gear position (either sampled from an “on-board” gear sensor or calculated from RPM and speed values), and lap time
Doesn't sound like any sensors are included.
Wiisass
11-29-2006, 09:50 PM
We are working on getting the AIM Sports dashes to interface with the factory ECU. If we achieve this, you will be able to monitor everything that the ECU sees.
www.aim-sportline.com
This is the italian site, don't worry it's in english, but it has better descriptions of what each unit comes with.
I am also working on putting together packages that include sensors and everything you need to get this stuff running so that you guys don't have to worry about sourcing the other parts. I will post this stuff up tomorrow once I get all the numbers and necessary parts worked out.
If you have any more questions let me or Mac know and we'll do what we can to answer everything.
Sir, that just tells you what the unit is capable of, it does not make any mention of what sensors are included. Just check the other site I posted for lists of what is available.
Tim
Wiisass
11-30-2006, 09:43 PM
Alright, I put together a couple packages for you guys with a little more off.
MXL Strada, this is the base MXL unit, fully configurable, but does not export your data to a computer for analysis. The package will include:
- wiring harness
- CAN/RS232 harness to connect to ecu
- water temp sensor
- oil temp sensor
- exhaust gas temp
- rpm sensor
- speed sensor
- oil pressure
- boost
- 3 more analog inputs that you can use for whatever you want
Price: PM Me or Mac for price.
MXL Pista, this is the midrange MXL unit, fully configurable, has 8mb of storage and you can export all of this data to your computer for analysis. This is a great setup for a race car. Package includes:
- wiring harness
- CAN/RS232 harness to connect to ecu
- water temp sensor
- oil temp sensor
- exhaust gas temp
- rpm sensor
- speed sensor
- oil pressure
- boost
- internal lateral accelerometer
- lap timing setup
- 3 more analog inputs that you can use for whatever you want
Price: PM Me or Mac for price
MXL Pro 2005, this is the top of the line unit. It has 12 inputs, 4 speed inputs, internal accelerometer, 16mb data storage for later analysis. It's probably more than most people need. This is what I plan on running in my car because I'm a suspension dork and will be using 4 channels for shock potentiometers. The package includes:
- wiring harness using Deutsch autosport connectors, top of the line stuff you see in F1 and LM cars
- CAN/RS232 harness to connect to ecu
- water temp sensor
- oil temp sensor
- exhaust gas temp
- rpm sensor
- speed sensor
- oil pressure
- boost
- internal lateral accelerometer
- lap timing setup
- 7 more analog inputs that you can use for whatever you want and 3 more speed channels to monitor wheel speed
Price: PM Me or Mac for quote
For a less expensive option, the Mychron 3 is also available.
The Mychron 3 Plus, this is the entry level dash and data acq system, it has 512mb of internal storage for analysis. Package includes:
- water temp sensor
- oil temp sensor
- speed sensor
- rpm sensor
- oil pressure sensor
- boost sensor
Price: PM Me or Mac for quotes
Mychron 3 gold, a step up from the mychron 3 plus, this has 8mb memory and a higher samping rate. Package includes:
- water temp sensor
- oil temp sensor
- speed sensor
- rpm sensor
- oil pressure sensor
- boost sensor
- lateral accelerometer
- lap timing setup
Price: PM me or Mac for quote
The Mychron 3 XG Log, has an additional channel, an additional speed input, 8mb memory and can interface with the ecu through RS232/CAN. Package includes:
- water temp sensor
- oil temp sensor
- speed sensor
- rpm sensor
- oil pressure sensor
- boost sensor
- exhaust gas temp sensor
- lateral accelerometer
- lap timing setup
Price: PM Me or Mac for quote
Most of these units include the water temp, oil temp, speed and rpm sensors. The accelerometer is built-in to some of the units. I included the oil pressure, boost and egt with the units because I figured it was what people would want to monitor. There are several other types of sensors available, including other pressure and temp sensors, displacement sensors, intertial sensors, etc. There are so many options with these it isn't even funny.
I know the prices look kind of expensive, but if you price out a full gauge setup from another company, you will realize what a deal these setups are. I think the best deals are the Mychron 3 gold or the MXL Strada.
These prices might still change a little, hopefully I will be able to drop them even more. The packages are offered at a greater discount than I originally offered. If you want something different or would like to change out sensors, please let me know and I can get you a price for it.
So everyone who expressed interest earlier, let me know. I really want to get this off the ground. Tell any of your friends about this offer. I know money is tight becuase it's the holiday season, but this is something that a lot of people could greatly benefit from for next season.
Let me know.
Tim
mr_240sx
11-30-2006, 10:36 PM
PM sent to you Tim.... hopefully you can answer my questions!
Mats
Macadoshus
12-01-2006, 02:30 PM
You guys got PMs.
Macadoshus
12-04-2006, 11:38 AM
PMs replied to. You know you want this...
mr_240sx
12-04-2006, 12:58 PM
so have you guys found a way to link these to the stock ecu?
Wiisass
12-04-2006, 01:08 PM
We have sent the Nissan protocol out to AIM sports for them to look over. I have not heard anything back yet, so this might be something we try on our end to attempt to get this to work. It doesn't seem to hard, but we won't know until we get the units. Since this is our initial buy-in, we won't get our first units until we place this order. So getting the dash to work with the factory ecu will be a project we are working on over the winter and then this will be an update that we will tell everyone once we figure it out.
Tim
mr_240sx
12-04-2006, 03:40 PM
so if i understand correctly, if i purchase now as is and once you find a way to link it with the ecu you then supply the buyers with the necessary stuff further down the road? or will we have to pay extra once you figure it out?
Wiisass
12-04-2006, 03:52 PM
Mac just told me, that if you are in on the initial buy-in and if we figure out the ECU stuff, the parts needed to connect the two will be sent out to you for free.
Tim
mr_240sx
12-04-2006, 09:19 PM
i must have missed it but when is the deadline for the first order?
Wiisass
12-04-2006, 10:45 PM
We haven't set the deadline yet. Right now, we're waiting to see how many people are seriously interested, once we get the number we're shooting for, we'll probably give everyone a couple more days and then we'll place the order. I really want to get this order to AIM in the next week or so, but that depends on you guys.
Tim
Dorifto89
12-04-2006, 10:57 PM
I have one of these for my kart and they are VERY nice. Just givin some respect.
Wiisass
12-05-2006, 04:32 PM
Thanks for the comments Dorifto.
So I know there's more people out there that need something like this for their car. Let me know if you have any questions.
Tim
Slidin240Wayz
12-05-2006, 05:13 PM
I will give you guys a call tomorrow.
Carlos
Slidin240Wayz
12-06-2006, 12:50 PM
+1 for Tim and R/T. He took his time out to go over this setup. It really looks like a good cluster replacement. Thank you.
Carlos
Wiisass
12-06-2006, 05:20 PM
Thanks Carlos. Everyone else feel free to call or PM me if you have any questions about any of this.
We're going to try and end this offer at the end of next week. So let me know now if you want to get in on this offer.
Tim
mr_240sx
12-06-2006, 10:23 PM
well Tim im in..... let me know when you end this so i can send in my payment.
Mats
CarloSR
12-07-2006, 03:59 AM
-suscribing-
Wiisass
12-07-2006, 12:39 PM
well Tim im in..... let me know when you end this so i can send in my payment.
Mats
Awesome, that's good to hear.
Who else wants to be awesome like Mats?
CarloSR, are you interested in getting in on this or just curious about the stuff? Let me know.
Tim
Gavster
12-07-2006, 08:11 PM
PM sent! Im way interested....my s14 track whore needs this...
Wiisass
12-08-2006, 04:24 PM
Gavster, I responded earlier today, let me know if you have any more questions.
Alright guys, this deal is ending next Friday (12/15/06). We will need all the money up front so we can make sure the order ships out before Christmas. We talked to AIM earlier today and pretty much everything should be in stock.
We can accept paypal or credit cards.
I would like everyone who wants this to PM me with exactly what they want just so I can confirm the order and get you the correct price. I have everything written down, I just want to double check so we don't run into any problems after the order is placed.
As always feel free to contact me, PM or phone (215-855-5565, 2-10EST). Thanks guys.
Tim
mr_240sx
12-11-2006, 10:36 AM
PM sent Tim...... is there certain amount of buyers that have to buy for this to go through or is it going through friday no matter what?
Mats
Wiisass
12-11-2006, 12:50 PM
PM's responded to. This is going through on Friday no matter what. We have the number of buyers that we need. But if can get a couple more we should be able to pass on more savings to you guys. So if you want to get something like this, now is the best time. These packages are going for almost 20% off list, which is almost 20% more off than you will see anywhere else. So let me know.
Tim
Wiisass
12-14-2006, 12:00 PM
Alright guys, last day is tomorrow. Let me know if you want to get in on this. We have lots of options on what you can get. I know money is tight with the holiday season, but you don't have to get all the extra sensors now. If you're interested, PM me and we can work something out.
Tim
mr_240sx
12-14-2006, 01:17 PM
Tim youll get my paypal payment first thing tomorrow morning! i cant wait to get this in my 240!
Gavster
12-14-2006, 04:36 PM
Im in and paid for! Thanks for the sick deal....cant wait to get my hands on this bad boy!!!
Wiisass
12-14-2006, 05:54 PM
Awesome, thanks a lot guys.
Tim
mr_240sx
12-15-2006, 06:33 AM
money is now in your hands Tim!
cant wait to get my hands on this!
240trainee
12-15-2006, 07:57 AM
Is the display at all flexable? For instance for sliding/ driving around on the street, I don't need to see lap times or anyting like that, oil pressure/ water temp/ speed would be more important, lol. I've always been curious as to the flexibility of the displays on these things.
Wiisass
12-15-2006, 01:21 PM
These displays are pretty flexible. You can switch between a lot of things and pick which channels you want displayed together and then switch between the sets of channels with the keypad. Depending on model, you can replace the lap time display with rpm, speed, battery voltage, etc. The MXL's have a static spot to display speed. On the Mychron3's you can display either speed or rpm or battery voltage in place of the lap time.
If you want to look into it more, there are PDF's on the aim sports site that talk about everything. You can even download the software and get an even better idea of how you can set it up.
Mats, I sent you a PM.
If anyone else has more questions or wants to order one of these, let me know.
Tim
Wiisass
12-15-2006, 11:07 PM
Alright everyone, last call.
I'll be at the shop tomorrow putting together the final order, so your last chance to get in on this group buy is early tomorrow afternoon.
Everyone who got in, I'll keep you updated on everything.
Tim
240trainee
12-16-2006, 08:28 AM
Well, I can't order before Christmas, but I can probably place an order after/ for your second batch. Could you get me a price on a MyCron3 Pkus package, like you had posted, shipped to 23225? I don't think I need anything more for what I'm doing.
mr_240sx
12-19-2006, 12:17 PM
Tim, was the orde rplaces alright?
Mats
Wiisass
12-19-2006, 12:43 PM
I got the order placed last night and was just on the phone with AIM making sure they have everything. A few of the units should be arriving at AIM on Thursday and then we should get them mid next week due to Christmas. I will let everyone know when everything comes in. But hopefully everyone will have their dashed the first week of the new year.
Tim
snatch13
12-20-2006, 12:35 AM
^^ Good shit guys... I'd definately be in on this GB if it were a year down the road... I just don't have the money for it now since there are more important things I need first.
Wiisass
12-26-2006, 02:54 PM
Alright guys, just a little update. I recieved most of the sensors last week, we're still waiting on the units to get to AIM. I'm expecting the rest of the stuff at the end of this week or mid next week depending on shipping schedules and when the AIM sports guys are around the office. I'll let everyone know when I have the units in my hands. Hopefully it will be sooner than later.
Tim
Gavster
12-30-2006, 10:12 AM
Cant wait! Thanks for the update!!
mazdaRX7Galantvr4
12-31-2006, 06:43 PM
I have been reading a lot of information on the Aim strada unit. I was under the impression that you could hook this unit up to a standalone ECU through serial cable, is that correct?
Can you also use the strada as a stand alone dash cluster without a AEM, Haltech, etc?
Depending on the above answers what are the sensors you receive if any, and if it hooks up to the AEM does it then just use the factory places sensor? And who can you get additional sensors from for fuel level, speed, oil temp and Pressure?
I know there are a lot of questions and you seem to be the most knowledgable of my findings on the product. If you would please get back. Thank you very much, Darin.
Attempted to send a pm but inbox was full so moved to here.
Wiisass
01-01-2007, 04:08 PM
You can hook up all the MXL and the Mychron3 XG Log to an ECU through either RS232 or CAN protocol. It can be a standalone display, you just need to hook up all the sensors for it. It can use factory sensors if it's reading from the ECU. If not, then you need new sensors. Sensors are available through AIM and you can also setup pretty much any other 0-5V sensor to the system.
Tim
derux
01-04-2007, 10:13 AM
how about a late week update??
Gavster
01-04-2007, 11:30 AM
Yes...updates plz....i want my cluster :) :) :) :)
Wiisass
01-04-2007, 03:04 PM
http://www.theoryinpracticeengineering.com/gallery/d/1004-1/DSC00382.JPG
MXL Strada for Reid
http://www.theoryinpracticeengineering.com/gallery/d/1008-1/DSC00381.JPG
Mychron3 Plus for Mats
http://www.theoryinpracticeengineering.com/gallery/d/1011-1/DSC00377.JPG
Mychron3 Plus for Gavin
So they're here, they're going out tomorrow. I'll send you guys tracking numbers once I get everything setup. Thanks again.
Tim
Maximamike
01-04-2007, 04:05 PM
Did those come with the beacon or was that ordered seperately? Just a little tip, get a standalone battery and small tripod for the beacon. Using the Double A's or whatever the hell it takes sucks and gets expensive fast. Also the tripod allows a good solid mount for it instead of putting it on a pit lane wall where someone could easily knock it over.
mr_240sx
01-04-2007, 11:37 PM
wow Tim you got me crazy anxious to get mine.... too bad there was a mix up in my harness..... not sure if you got my pm or not.
cant wait to mine all wired up and running.
Gavster
01-05-2007, 09:10 AM
Oh man, looks great! I cant wait to have it in hand!! Thanks guys you rock!
scottie
01-10-2007, 01:50 PM
Have you guys figured out yet if you can use the factory Nissan ECU yet? Im very interested in this setup but i would like to know a rough estimate for the sensors (oil pressure, rpm, speed, coolant temp, etc) needed to get this thing to work. I mean, if it adds another $200 on top of the price, it will help people determine if they want this product or hold off til they make a Nissan user friendly version. I do have to give you guys props for bringing in a great product.
Scott
Wiisass
01-10-2007, 03:03 PM
We have not heard any word from AIM about interfacing with the factory ECU. The Nissan protocol has been forwarded to the relevant people. Unfortunately, they are in Italy and I have no idea how things are going with it. I will try and find out tomorrow.
As for additional sensors. If all you're looking for is oil pressure, rpm, speed and coolant temp, they are included with every unit except for the Strada. The Mychron3's and the MXL pista and pro 05 come with a speed sensor, rpm hookup, and either 2 temp sensors or 1 temp and 1 pressure sensor.
Another thing to note is that even if the AIM is interfacing with the factory ecu, you will still need additional sensors to get all the readings you want. The unit can only get from the ECU what the ecu is reading. So oil pressure, oil temp, boost, etc aren't seen by the ECU.
If you're interested in a unit, send me a PM with what you would want and I can get you a more accurate price.
Thanks,
Tim
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