donkin car audio?

[chmercer]

how do i make my car awesome showcar riced out madness. i dont know shit about car audio besides replacing stock speakers and head units. right now i have a pioneer headunit i forget the name, and alipine type s i think? 6.5" speakers. is it worth the time to cut stuff out to put 6x9 speakers? or just get better 6.5" speakers. what about adding additional cheaper 6.5" speakers for example in the rear arm rest panels? is that even possible to wire up? or an amp for the speakers? the head unit claims to be an amplifier as well. somone educate me on this shit.

[A Spec Products]

I think you should have a stock amp no? Should be enough to run 6x9s, I run 6x9s in rear of S13 off factory "amp."

I'd run some 6x9's in rear instead of 6.5 coaxles, you get that tonka donka truck thump with the 6x9s.

But just like you, I don't know jack doo doo about stereo stuff.

Someone pass the popcorn, I want to see who wants to tickle Viceroy's buttons.

[chmercer]

i got the stock amp probably somewhere in a pile of junk parts, i did the bypass thing when i put in my headunit however many years ago, didnt think about re using it..

[NemeGuero]

I'd run 6.5" COMPONENTS in the front and rear.. amp them with a 4 channel amp.
And then get another amp for 2 10" subs.

THE best system for an affordable price.

[94cc0rd]

if ur going for sound quality, stick with 6.5's... if u just want some sound with some thump go with 6x9s.

6.5" component set up front + 6x9's in the rear + 4ch amp if u don't want to run a sub..

[downshift_sideways]

I'm actually selling my beat, if anyone is intrested haha.

2 12'' audiobahn Subs In Box, with a 400 Watt Audiobahn amp with a vented scoope to cool down the amp. comes with fuses, power wire, ground wires, and RCA cables.

If anyone is intrested. I'll even throw in a digiWatt 400 amp.

all for 250$

Its in my car right now, but its down at the moment. Locals are a +

hehe sorry bout thread jackin

[chmercer]

is it better to get for instance 2 amps and extra subs and buy ghetto cheap shit, or good brand smaller things. sound quality is deffinitley my preference since i dont listen to rap or w/e. no vibrating trunk lid please.

[NemeGuero]

http://img144.imageshack.us/img144/7830/bzd3eb4.jpg
custom box I built for my 300ZX back in the day..

well.. for the amp question..
I'd get 2.. because one you can dedicate for components and then a seperate one for subs. Otherwise you'd have to have a 6 channel amp and those aren't cheap.

I used BOSS audio.. not a huge name brand but GREAT quality stuff.
www.caraudioexperts.com has great deals..

If you dont' want MASSIVE bass.. you can get a bazooka tube.

[A Spec Products]

sound quality is deffinitley my preference since i dont listen to rap or w/e. no vibrating trunk lid please.

bah

rap music is number 1

vibrating trunk lid is the only way to roll hard

haha

[downshift_sideways]

get dynamatt, if your trunk rumbles like a bitch.

I agree, I like tweeters so you can hear the audio at full blast.

Others you can barely make out words

[Juujai]

check out this forum www.caraudio.com thats where i get alot of my reviews n things off of should help

[chmercer]

k well i think what ill do is keep buying alpine shit since i already have alpine speakers, 2 10s in the back seat panels stealth install flavor courtessy my boy johnny fiveeeeeeeeeeeeeeee and try to score 1 4 and 1 2 channel amp to power that action and put it in the trunk. ill probably come back once i find some used stuff that i can afford since im sure ill have no idea how to wire it. ill probably get some knockoff dyna matt stuff off ebay while im at it. bone shattering curb weight baby.

nemeguro that link you posted is broke. ill check out that boss stuff if i cant afford to let the alpine play, 'till i caught logan in my car tryin to steal the alpine
chased him down the street to call a truce
the silly muthafucka pulls out a deuce deuce
little did he know i had a loaded 12 guage
one sucker dead, L.A. Times front page

[TipStylez]

Just get some amps for your speakers.

And bazooka 10in subs.

Cheap, and bumps quality. Not that nothing but bass shit.

[NemeGuero]

Oops.. its www.caraudioexpert.com

haha
that system sounds legit.
Lemme know if you need help with wiring.
If you're pushing serious wattage, you may need a capacitor.

[ThatGuy]

chmercer, if you want to drop a little more bank, but save some space, I know JL Audio produces 5 channel amps. Good for components and a single sub. I used to sell JL Audio Equipment, and if I ever put a system in the tactical 240, they are the company I will stick with.

4 blown OEM speakers FTW!!

[articdragon192]

k well i think what ill do is keep buying alpine shit since i already have alpine speakers, 2 10s in the back seat panels stealth install flavor courtessy my boy johnny fiveeeeeeeeeeeeeeee and try to score 1 4 and 1 2 channel amp to power that action and put it in the trunk. ill probably come back once i find some used stuff that i can afford since im sure ill have no idea how to wire it. ill probably get some knockoff dyna matt stuff off ebay while im at it. bone shattering curb weight baby.



Something like this?
http://memimage.cardomain.net/member_images/10/web/526000-526999/526842_209_full.gif
http://memimage.cardomain.net/member_images/10/web/526000-526999/526842_225_full.gif
http://memimage.cardomain.net/member_images/10/web/526000-526999/526842_237_full.gif
http://memimage.cardomain.net/member_images/10/web/526000-526999/526842_226_full.gif

[yokotas13]

a oval speaker will have more distortion than a round one
Only use 6x9 if yuo have to
I prefer 6.5 personally, and always have had good products come from it in my cars and others

[40daws]

chmercer, if you want to drop a little more bank, but save some space, I know JL Audio produces 5 channel amps. Good for components and a single sub. I used to sell JL Audio Equipment, and if I ever put a system in the tactical 240, they are the company I will stick with.

4 blown OEM speakers FTW!!
Also Kicker has a 5 channel. ZX700.5 model. Watts 85 x 4 to the front and rear speakers and 400 x 1 to the sub at 2ohms.

[95Blue240sx]

When I read the first post I didnt know if you were serious or not lol.

If you are going for clarity get some high end components like MB Quart. Stick with JUST 6.5" components in the front and remove any rear speakers if you have them. Get a sub like a 10/12 which ever you prefer and a nice amp. Any audiophile will tell you to ditch rear speakers and just get quality front components.

I have some Rockford components that I got a killer deal on from a friend, who originally bought them for $400. Right now im running an old school MTX 5ch amp, but only have the front speakers and a Alpine type r 12" sub hooked up. Sound is awsome. Im using a Alpine cda9815 headunit also.

All headunits have a built in amp, just so you can hear the speakers, usually only rated at 40-60watts. When you through in a sub, youll need to run an external amp, so might as well power all the speakers with it.

[justinhustle]

i have rf 6.5 componets up front

6.5 in the rear

i hate subs, so none of those in my car

[sultan]

i've got an ooolllldd precisionpower 2 channel amp you can have for free, i'm talkin 97-98 vintage. pretty sure it works.

[downshift_sideways]

Any decent quality speakers powered by a decent amp, Will slap Hard In ANY hatchback 240.

1 10'' or even a kicker, will slap hard. I was rocking a 10'' sony xploid kicker, and It slapped harder than most of the guys out there with 400+ sounds systems.

[40daws]

Quality head unit also. Alpine and Kenwoods (some models) let you turn off the internal amplifier so the unit runs cooler and the sound is supposedly clearer due to less power draw. Also a head unit with digital signal processing or decent sound shaping adjustments can make all the difference in how any type of music sounds and how hard it hits.

[CUSTEL]

Any decent quality speakers powered by a decent amp, Will slap Hard In ANY hatchback 240.

1 10'' or even a kicker, will slap hard. I was rocking a 10'' sony xploid kicker, and It slapped harder than most of the guys out there with 400+ sounds systems.
There is no such thing as a "sony xplod kicker" Kicker is a brand not a phrase. Stay away from 6x9's stay far far away. The only quality post i saw (skimmed the thread) was Neme's. Caraudio.com was referenced, its all opinions and no useful information. Also stay away from the audiobahn setup listed above audiobahn is nothing but trash.

Now to the OG post:

Headunit amplifiers are useless, they will not have anywhere near enough power to send to a quality aftermarket speaker. If you are on a budget i would recomend buying online, especially ebay. In regards to amplifiers my team has tested with orion, kicker, memphis, and a few other quality brands. Thus far kicker has been far superior to any other brand we have tested. If you dont have a lot to spend on subs I would personally recommend kicker comp-vr or alpine type-r, the sound that you will get is 95% install and 5% product. I highly recommend purchasing an enclosure from thecaraudiobox.com both as his team mate and a customer. For your components i would recommend if alpine type-x and type-x only, image dynamics, pioneer rev series, diamond audio hex, as well as kickers components all can be had for a fairly reasonable price if purchased online.

Now i have recommend kicker quite a few times, I am a member of team kicker, but that does not bias my judgement, I won IL state title and MECA 3rd in the world for AS2 with an Alpine type-r (newer version) I currently only use their amplifiers, wirirng, and components because i have had such a great run thus far.

[sittinsideways]

^^+1


i;m runnin 2 10s off of a 350 watt amp. its my ghetto setup, b.c i dont have the coin to back a donkin setup. but it bumped pretty good, deff better than the stock 4x6s, which was all i was lookin for ne ways. qulity equipment and good wiring is all i have 2 say.

If you're pushing serious wattage, you may need a capacitor.

if you dont your lights will dim when the bass hits....had that prob in my s13 hahaha

[Brokenbc]

Elemental Designs FTW. These guys make GREAT products for a great price since you can only buy straight from them there is no middle man, plus they don't advertise so they save money there. I love them and I've used their deadening products and one of their O series subs and it sounds incredible.

ok so you want good sound quality with depth but not boomy bass that rattles your trunk. you need a good set of component speakers in the front and a single sub or two in the trunk for added depth. I'd just buy a 4 channel amp (they are very very common) and use 2 of the channels for your front speakers and the other 2 bridged to run the sub. so if you go with eD products then you want this...

http://www.edesignaudio.com/edv2/index.php

(1) set of the 6500 component speakers (6.5" full range speakers)
(1) 13Kv.2 subwoofer and you'll to try to find somebody who can build you a sealed box for it. a vented box is generally louder but it is "boomy" and comes with a slew of sound "quality" issues. some people like the sound of vented box because they like how it distorts the bass but if I were you i'd go sealed box since your not after crazy bass.
(1) nine.4 amp, something like 100W per channel so the fronts would get 100W and the sub would get 200W. Remember this is real RMS watts not the BS max power rating.
(60sqft) V1 deadening mat... put this stuff in your doors behind the speakers and anywhere you get rattles. rattles will KILL your sound quality. and having deadening in your doors will increase your midbass response for a smoother overall sound.

from eD as a package that comes to 570ish plus you'd still need a box and wiring and stuff and depending on how good your deck is you might need one of those too.


now to address some other posts... stay AWAY from audiobahn they make great looking products, not great sounding.

as far as you deck running cooler because there is an option to turn off the internal amp... if there is no speakers connected to the deck speaker outputs then no current will be flowing through the internal amp this it will run cooler... don't look for a deck that allows this option, you don't need it. what you do need is a deck with a good EQ and sub control so you can tune your system well

that S14 with the hidden sub in behind the rear interior panel... thats fricken tight. I've been thinkin of going active 3 system with mine and putting the midbass speaker in that location but didn't realize there was so much space there. not sure about imaging though, don't want to pull my front stage to far back.

as far as the cap goes, you should be able to get away with drawing 30Amps of current to the system without issues. if you do get dimming though what i'd do is get a optima red top under the hood and through whatever batter you have now in parallel with the amp in the trunk. that should give you all the juice you need.

[CUSTEL]

you are giving ed way to much credit.

[chmercer]

^^^ 500+ dollars is no way. not gonna spend that much not even close but thanks for the info. yeah arctic posted the sub install i was gonna do.

does anyone know if it would sound retarded if i only had a sub in one side? i assumed i would need 1 on each side to balance it out.

95blue why do you say to remove the rear speakers. also my existing speakers are fine so i dont wanna buy new components, what about if i just got some aftermarket tweeters to go with the existing 6.5s. would that sound fucked up.

also the head unit i cant remember the model number but it is a panasonic touch screen where the whole unit is a touch screen. when its off its just a black rectangle. it was like 250 off ebay when i got it a couple years ago so i think its pretty quality, and i like it so deffinitley hanging on to that

[drew935]

I just used the stock amps to power up my speakers.
Alpine headunit
Alpine 6.5 2way door speakers
Kenwood tweets (came w/ the car)
1- 6X9 and a 10"pioneer in separate boxes in the hatch
Too lazy to wire up my Alpine amp, and don't want the drain on the battery. :D
Sounds good enough for me. No need to rumble da streets.

[NemeGuero]

You'll notice that you only have 1 sub if you do it lopsided like that.
If you only plan on using 1, center it somewhere.
For the maximum sound out of it.. you want the longest throw (distance between sub face and solid surface) you can attain.

Also, I forgot to mention, you'll need a head unit with RCA outputs for as many channels as you want to amplify.

I reccommend one with 2 sets of RCA outs and minimum 1 subwoofer out.

And if you wanted to add tweeters to your existing 6.5's you'll need a crossover to filter the frequencies. (run just high to tweets and mid/low to "woofer")

[chmercer]

oh ok so i could get some tweeters and use a filter to make the existing coaxials into ghetto woofers. is that even worth the time? and the headunit had a fist full of rca wires comming out the back, didnt know what they were for when i installed it back in the day, so i assume its up to snuff

[projekt_s13]

Something like this?
http://memimage.cardomain.net/member_images/10/web/526000-526999/526842_237_full.gif
http://memimage.cardomain.net/member_images/10/web/526000-526999/526842_226_full.gif


Doesnt that plastic panel Vibrate badly when bass hits??

[chmercer]

yeah im not sure about that. the original poster of it made no mention of that, maybe the rear seat pad dampens it enough.

[NemeGuero]

Well its up to you how much you like your existing coaxials.
The Crossovers can be had fairly cheap (you don't need the huge ones.. just the 2 channel splitter for each component you want to run).

If you like music loud its best to have tweeters seperate from the woofer or you'll get sound distortion and lose clarity.

Or, you could buy a baller crossover and wire it to each speaker.. but thats a PITA.

[95Blue240sx]

When you get some quality stuff up front and still have ok speakers in the rear you will notice it wont sound as good as just having the front. The rear speakers are for your passengers, get ride of them cause you dont have passengers anyway.

When you pick up a nice set of components they come with a mid/low range speaker, the 6.5" and a tweet. It also comes with a crossover so it seperates the frequencies(sp?). So you dont get bass freq coming out your tweeter and visa versa. Just makes it sound clean.

[SoSideways]

And just a word of caution, don't mount the crossovers inside the doors like many people do.

Mount them crossovers inside the car, or you'll get rust city.

[Brokenbc]

so you want to keep your deck and your front speakers... what exactly are you trying to change? you just want them to get louder? you want more bass? you want more treble? to really help you we need to know more about what you want. we're all recomending a baller setup but if you don't want to change anything then we gotta recomend changes to what you got.

as far as the sub on one side goes, rule of thumb is that you can't localize frequencies below 100hz. that means that as long as your front speakers are doing a good enough job with the midbass then you can cross your sub below 100hz and having 1 sub won't mess with your stage (thats rule of thumb). the problem is you will for sure notice where the rattles are coming from. i'd make sure to put a ton of deadening on that panel in front of the sub.

[94cc0rd]

Running rear fill is personal preference... It's said that rear speakers will ruin the image staging or what not but it's up to you. It's what you want... I personally like rear fill and have my component set up front and 6x9's in the back with a 4ch amp. I kept the 6x9s because I didn't think I was gonna get subs but I ended up with 2 12"s.

So from what you posted, you want sound quality without the need for bangin bass, and for under $500.

Can you find the model of your head unit and your coaxial speakers up front? and do you have speakers in the back right now?

For your bass, I've heard good things about Infinity's Basslink. I think it's around $250 but it's an self amplified 10" woofer. I haven't heard it myself but I've heard from people who weren't big bassheads, that it was plenty of bass and easily removable (for track days and such). I'm considering one myself if I can sell my 2 12"s and amp.

~$200
http://www.sonicelectronix.com/viewitem.php?id=372&affiliate=PriceGrabber

[chmercer]

so you want to keep your deck and your front speakers... what exactly are you trying to change? you just want them to get louder? you want more bass? you want more treble? to really help you we need to know more about what you want. we're all recomending a baller setup but if you don't want to change anything then we gotta recomend changes to what you got.

as far as the sub on one side goes, rule of thumb is that you can't localize frequencies below 100hz. that means that as long as your front speakers are doing a good enough job with the midbass then you can cross your sub below 100hz and having 1 sub won't mess with your stage (thats rule of thumb). the problem is you will for sure notice where the rattles are coming from. i'd make sure to put a ton of deadening on that panel in front of the sub.

the deck is well equipped and my speakers are fair enough, just wanted to add some subs and amplify the speakers with somthing better than just the built in one i think. that was my idea anyway

[NemeGuero]

I didn't read exactly how many 6.5 coaxials you had.. but if you only have 1 set, you can put those in the rears.. get one set of components for the front.. amp all 4.. and then slap another amp on there for your sub.

It'd be easier(cheaper) to get a component package then make one out of existing 6.5's.

I used to have some custom boxes I built for the s14 trunk.. lemme see if I can dig up some pics.

[CUSTEL]

^^+1


i;m runnin 2 10s off of a 350 watt amp. its my ghetto setup, b.c i dont have the coin to back a donkin setup. but it bumped pretty good, deff better than the stock 4x6s, which was all i was lookin for ne ways. qulity equipment and good wiring is all i have 2 say.



if you dont your lights will dim when the bass hits....had that prob in my s13 hahaha
caps dont do anything upgrade your big 3 (serach google if you dont know what it is) if that doesnt help upgrade your battery to either a yellow top or kinetik. If you still have dimming you need a h.o. alternator.

[NemeGuero]

Umm.. the only thing listed under big 3 is The Big 3 motor comapnies.
And caps do plenty. They store charge to eliminate large current drains on your electrical system.

[chmercer]

i got a marine optima battery so i think that should be cool

[BoLLeH]

Audiobahn makes garbage. Just a heads up. Everything they and companies along their lines (MA Audio, Visonik, etc.) is garbage, sound quality wise. They are definitely "show" brands. If you want clarity and great designs, try Soundstream.

Otherwise, you should stay with the 6.5" but stray away from coaxials as much as possible. When supplying power, a suggestion would be to isolate an extra battery and running a capacitor (1farad - 1kw).

regarding the subwoofer enclosure, bandpass will create the best sound but it will take up a lot of space. Running a doodoo enclosure will make a $500 sub sound like doodoo so you should pay attention to suggestion volumetric specs.

Ima doodoo.

[TurbLu]

^^+1


i;m runnin 2 10s off of a 350 watt amp. its my ghetto setup, b.c i dont have the coin to back a donkin setup. but it bumped pretty good, deff better than the stock 4x6s, which was all i was lookin for ne ways. qulity equipment and good wiring is all i have 2 say.



if you dont your lights will dim when the bass hits....had that prob in my s13 hahaha

Capacitors dooo not stop your hedlights from dimming....They only ensure a clean signal for the amplifier!!!

[94cc0rd]

caps dont do anything upgrade your big 3 (serach google if you dont know what it is) if that doesnt help upgrade your battery to either a yellow top or kinetik. If you still have dimming you need a h.o. alternator.

That is actually a common myth. Caps do help with light dimming problems. Check out this website... the information is very ... well informative..:keke:

http://www.betteraudio.com/geolemon/newmain/battcapalt/

[C. Senor]

i used to, or weel i still am a big sound guy, i put a custom stereo in my coupe, i consisted of a fully enclosed box using the whole trunk with 2 12" cerwin vega strokers being pushed by a 850 by 2 kicker amp, with a full phoenix gold compenet set and 4 bose tweeters being pushed by a 300/4 kenwood amp, with an pioneer headunit, i had to use a 2 farad digital capacitor and a had to get a second battery being charge by using a battery isolator and a fully dynomated trunk under layers of resin ad wood, the coupe had limited space for bass so after a certain point you cant really get any louder, i dont know how hatches work since they have a little more space in the back since you can use the whole car as a box, but that costs a pretty penny, sont know how much you are willing to sheel out, i would suggest phoenix gold component sets they are really good and really clear, just if you have a lotta bass it wil tear the little speaker apart i had that problem.. but the sound quality out of those are great, and the strokers produced great low hard hitting bass, just suggestions.

[Rayne]

www.quietcar.net/ (http://www.quietcar.net/) For sound deadening if you care. The product is similar to typical spray on bed liner except it does a better job at sound deadening and vibration absortion than Dynomat.

[WILDACEX187]

i wanna throw in a single 12 in my trunk but im afraid of it flopping around when i turn. should i bolt it down or something? is that ok?

this is wat i want the 12 to be in http://www.sonicelectronix.com/images//big/bigmdfs12.jpg

[BoLLeH]

Yes, you should bolt it down.

[articdragon192]

Doesnt that plastic panel Vibrate badly when bass hits??

The plastic doesnt vibrate. There's an opening in the panel covered by the mesh deal to allow the sound to emit outwards. There was no rattling at all. And there's enough air behind the 10s to actually make them useful.

[94cc0rd]

wildace, you can try some industrial strength velcro... I'm not sure if it'll be strong enough to hold down a 12" box though... some guy with a basslink had one held down with velcro and he got rear ended @ 80mph and it didn't move an inch. but then again, the basslink is only a 10" and probably a lot lighter than a regular mdf enclosure...

[NemeGuero]

Plumber's tape and bolts/self tapping screws are the best way to hold down a heavy box under crazy driving conditions..

[exitspeed]

I don't have a ton of experience with car audio, but back int eh day I had MB Quartz 3" coaxial in the front and 6x9's in the back. I ran them with a Pioneer Premier amp and a Clarion head unit. I spent pretty goo money on his set up back int he day, but it was NICE. You'da thought I have a 10" sub int eh back. The clearity (which in my opinion is just as important as bumping loud) was next to greatness. I had some friends that were REALLY big into high quality systems and they were really impresssed with my set-up.

If I had the money to spend on it, I'd do something exactly the same thing in my 240.

[MELLO*SOS]

CHmercer: You should check out Scott Buwalda's S14s. Dude is a big tymer and he builds the most donkin systems that ever were.. Checking out his rides should get you some good ideas for your own.

http://www.buwaldahybrids.com/instal1.jpg (http://www.buwaldahybrids.com/)

Also, he has built a very clean s15 with an amazingly detailed RB26DETT swap. Everyone should read that build up (http://www.buwaldahybrids.com/speed.htm), he has lots of pictures and really makes you wish your pockets were bottomless.

For the other guy asking about the single 12" box, go to home depot and get some 90* L brackets. Use sheetmetal screws into the floor (or mount a sheet of MDF) and then wood screws into the box. Use at least two of these brackets and the box will be rock solid. If you put that box in there with no brackets to hold it down it'll flop around on every single corner and it'll drive you nuts (or you'll fuck up your sub at least).

[NemeGuero]

If you're screwing into the sub box.. use some kind of sealer on the screws to make sure you keep an air-tight fitment.

The sub you get will have a specific volume range where it operates the best.. Try to get an enclosure that matches it.

[MELLO*SOS]

:werd: :stupid: you can also screw them in with the sub unmounted, then rtv/caulk on the inside...

[SoSideways]

That S14.5 was on Super Street or whatever mag it was. I still don't understand what that board that he created underneath the rear glass is, or what it does, other than to look like it's a time machine.

[MELLO*SOS]

Be sure to check out his other build(s) too they are all simply works of art

[skylinekin]

im really interested in the infinity basslink, anyone have one who can comment on it?? I like the fact that I can easily take it out for track days and its very stealthy.

[alkemyst]

CHmercer: You should check out Scott Buwalda's S14s. Dude is a big tymer and he builds the most donkin systems that ever were.. Checking out his rides should get you some good ideas for your own.

http://www.buwaldahybrids.com/instal1.jpg (http://www.buwaldahybrids.com/)

Also, he has built a very clean s15 with an amazingly detailed RB26DETT swap. Everyone should read that build up (http://www.buwaldahybrids.com/speed.htm), he has lots of pictures and really makes you wish your pockets were bottomless.

For the other guy asking about the single 12" box, go to home depot and get some 90* L brackets. Use sheetmetal screws into the floor (or mount a sheet of MDF) and then wood screws into the box. Use at least two of these brackets and the box will be rock solid. If you put that box in there with no brackets to hold it down it'll flop around on every single corner and it'll drive you nuts (or you'll fuck up your sub at least).

The RB is in a S14 with S15 conversion. Scott used to live by me and was one of the first guys I reached out to prior to my purchase. His car was just featured...I can't remember the mag. The guy is a genius at customization though.

However, the Viceroy clowns will think he is an old man, his ride is not low enough, his wheels not rice enough, and he should have at least 4 15's in the rear. Guy doesn't make enough money in his 30's...etc.

These guys really drive 80's honda's, but created alter egos here and post the taunting results on their forums usually using 'we pwnt him'. Secretly they go out to karaoke every night. Also quite a few years ago I think they were called "Vice Roy". Roy was a guy with amazing anal sphincter they would say...it was vice-like like a 2 way diff was a common quote I believe. I slowly backed out of their threads. At night the images still haunt me of what they described was fun.

Secretly they have nintendo systems installed to lure middle school boys to 'riding' with them in their 'Silvias'. :fruit:

The side quarter panels are probably the best spot to put subs in a S14 unless you are competeing it on a budget.

I have solid panels (no vents save the seat belt hole) and only get a bit of vibration at 200WRMS x 2 to ID10v3's x 2. I can add some 2 sided foam tape and be done with it I bet.

The main benefit is you are not adding alot of weight to your car and you can use your trunk which is already small.

I will solve the vibrations as the weather cools down here. They aren't bad really, I just want the luxury and the performance in one in a 5 figure total cost...my worst is behind my gauge cluster at about 4k rpms. I probably asked for that though with solid tension rods, pillowball mounts and subframe spacers.

Turning it up solves the issues. A lot of way more expensive cars have vibration issues and I ride in them alot so it makes me feel my battle is fought by those with way more resources than me.

Best bet to mount a box to the floor would be skip L brackets and just undo the sub and mount down inside it. In my experience those mounting L's either torn out the edges of the box, spun the carpet off the box when the bit hit the carpet layer, or made their nice looking install look terrible with these brackets even if painted to match.

If you don't care about your factory carpet...cut it out and seal the box to the floor along with bolts.

The :mrmeph: that started this thread is just trolling here. I can't believe the foothold this Viceroy Circle Jerk club gained in 1 year. Still they are 85% titty free..the first 15% was the time they spent breast feeding. :naughty:

[McRussellPants]

Now my Kensai, I curse you to be a Ronin and with the my remaining spirit I, beseech Chimata-No-Kami, to have you wander through time and distance lands, seeking a new master. Now my Kensai, I curse you to moving with your aunte and uncle in bel-air I whistled for a cab and when it came near the Licensplate said fresh and had a dice in the mirror If anything I could say that this cab was rare But I thought now forget it, yo home to bel-air I pulled up to a house about seven or eight And I yelled to the cabby yo, home smell you later Looked at my kingdom I was finally there To settle my throne as the prince of bel-air

[chmercer]

The RB is in a S14 with S15 conversion. Scott used to live by me and was one of the first guys I reached out to prior to my purchase. His car was just featured...I can't remember the mag. The guy is a genius at customization though.

However, the Viceroy clowns will think he is an old man, his ride is not low enough, his wheels not rice enough, and he should have at least 4 15's in the rear. Guy doesn't make enough money in his 30's...etc.


i didnt bother commenting on that car, since i think it sucks, and why would i try to make my own thread go off topic, but since you are practically on your knees begging for my opinion with this essay of a post, here you go.

that car is lame because im totally positive that it never gets streeted ever. hell, how could it, its got like an amp rack in the window or something. the motor is very nice. BUT. the money spent on that couldve easily got an imported s15. which wouldve been way cooler than an s14.5 (possibly even lamer than an s13.5) cliffsnotes - stop putting s15 front ends on crap, people.

moving on. bondoed on sideskirts, rear bumper, fenders. you cant even take the car apart without smashing it with a hammer. what good is that. the reason it isnt low is because if he hit anything the paintjob would be totalled.
4 15s in the back? that would suck. i guess maybe that would be cool if you think airbrushed tony montana on the hood of a caprice is cool. the wheels are weak, like yours. what do you roll on, 27 pound cobra knockoff alloys? shits tight grampa.


These guys really drive 80's honda's, but created alter egos here and post the taunting results on their forums usually using 'we pwnt him'. Secretly they go out to karaoke every night. Also quite a few years ago I think they were called "Vice Roy". Roy was a guy with amazing anal sphincter they would say...it was vice-like like a 2 way diff was a common quote I believe. I slowly backed out of their threads. At night the images still haunt me of what they described was fun.


yeah thats cool, im sorry youve had to own a honda in your lifetime. i dont roll with stuff like that. cruising the ef hatchback to the community college and all that. sorry man.


Secretly they have nintendo systems installed to lure middle school boys to 'riding' with them in their 'Silvias'. :fruit:


if by nintendo systems, you mean, glam rock hairstyles, and by middle school boys, you mean, junior high girls, then, yes.


The :mrmeph: that started this thread is just trolling here. I can't believe the foothold this Viceroy Circle Jerk club gained in 1 year. Still they are 85% titty free..the first 15% was the time they spent breast feeding. :naughty:

trolling? why would i troll in my own thread? do you even know what trolling means? viceroy circle jerk? viceroy is like me and 4 friends. i cant help it if half of zilvia thinks im the king shit, and the other half wants to kill me. the other 15% is in the recylce bin cause the mods asked me to keep it worksafe. not that shit that you said that made no sense.

dont break your fingers on the keyboard grampa, i heard its applesauce and bingo day at the retirement home. wouldnt want to miss that. i hope that big dog SE SE SE SE SEEEVENTTT T TTTY FIVE THOTHTHHHH HHHHT THHHH THOUSAND DOLLARS (sound it out) is enough to buy you a spot at the table.

I'd Do Anything For Love, But I Wont Do That.

[alkemyst]

I'd Do Anything For Love, But I Wont Do That.

I returned your nice paypal offer, sorry I won't do that either.

Use it to buy some bondo for your ghetto ride.

[chmercer]

what are you even talking about. im listening to meatloaf

bat out of hell faggots

[alkemyst]

what are you even talking about. im listening to meatloaf

bat out of hell faggots

Didn't know Morning Musame covered Meatloaf.

[Siizzzoooo]

dood, just get you a NICE set of components up front, and 3 ways in the rear

my setup
Infinity Kappa Compenent set Fronts
Infinity Kappa 3 ways in the rear
Infinity amp 111x4 rms powers those, sounds fuckin awesome and crystal clear

to finish it off, an Infinity Kappa Perfect 12 sub powered by a Fosgate 600x1 amp in a ported box, trunk rattlin like nobody's business

[chmercer]

Didn't know Morning Musame covered Meatloaf.

the fuck is that. MEATLOAF ASSHOLE. MEAT LOAF.

http://www.gothicrevue.com/meatloafbat.jpg

take your jdm whatever and stick it in my fluidyne radiator and magnaflow muffler. i want a GOD DAMN C4.

[McRussellPants]

I want to ride a furry motorcycle out of a crevice in a cemetary.

[94cc0rd]

dood, just get you a NICE set of components up front, and 3 ways in the rear

my setup
Infinity Kappa Compenent set Fronts
Infinity Kappa 3 ways in the rear
Infinity amp 111x4 rms powers those, sounds fuckin awesome and crystal clear

to finish it off, an Infinity Kappa Perfect 12 sub powered by a Fosgate 600x1 amp in a ported box, trunk rattlin like nobody's business

hey sizzo.. how do you like your infinity kappa comp set up front?

i have the same thing with the tweeters custom mounted on the door panel and i like the highs (sometimes harsh, i shoulda got silk domes) but the midbass lacks a lot... I love midbass as well as bass so the kappas kinda disappoint me. It might be that I have it just screwed onto the door panel... They probably produce a lot more midbass in a proper sealed enclosure..

im really interested in the infinity basslink, anyone have one who can comment on it?? I like the fact that I can easily take it out for track days and its very stealthy.

hey man. although I've never heard a basslink in person, after I made that recommendation, I looked more into it and read some more reviews and there have been quite a few people who pushed it too hard that the basslink internal amp just burnt out... fuse on the basslink was fine too. that got me worried and plus, a guy on clubrsx which has a great audio forum, came up with a "basslink killa" setup that cost only 30-50 bucks more and produced a lot lower and harder bass.

it consisted of a 10" alpine type-S, alpine mrd-300, and a cheapo 10" pre-fab box. He mounted the amp onto the box so it only took up a little more space than the basslink and he said he discovered so many low frequencies he never heard on the basslink and that it hit at least 3x harder. I think it cost him around $250.. and the basslink is around ~$200 (ebay).

[SilviaVsSupra]

i didnt read the 3 pages of all you raging about mealoaf and what not, but for good audio, depending on if you are going for quality or sq, 6.5 components are the standard, anything else is retarded up front, in the back? well this is what im doing... kicker SS 6.5 components up front, powered by kicker zx300.2 amp... nothing in the back, i guarantee you with these speakers u wont need them, u wont be able to turn the SS up front all the way up in fact.. along with that, u need a sub, because components have no bass, thats the purpose of them. i have a single 12' L7 in a carbon fiber trunk enclosure, and kicker rs speakers powered by 350.1 amp.... for now, the SS speakers cost alot, but holy shit they rock.. my setup currently rocks out at 132db.. with the ss speakers, and once i modify the enclosure and dynamat the trunk and rest of the car more.. im shooting for 140db.. if you dont know how loud that is, it means = a painful screaming sound, and stomach/headache..

for anyone too cheap to buy brand name products, dont bother changing ur speakers, they wont sound any better..

[Siizzzoooo]

hey sizzo.. how do you like your infinity kappa comp set up front?

i have the same thing with the tweeters custom mounted on the door panel and i like the highs (sometimes harsh, i shoulda got silk domes) but the midbass lacks a lot... I love midbass as well as bass so the kappas kinda disappoint me. It might be that I have it just screwed onto the door panel... They probably produce a lot more midbass in a proper sealed enclosure..


i love it, all components lack bass, hence why i have a Kappa sub.

i've got my components in the stock location except the tweeter i have flush mounted on the door panel, VERY similar to a kick panel setup

All highs and mids are crystal clear with these components, i will NEVER go with anything else other than Infinitys imo

I have alot of control with my Alpine headunit as far as adjusting my mids and highs to my likings

i'll post a pic maybe later on today of my setup

[alkemyst]

but since you are practically on your knees begging for my opinion with this essay of a post, here you go.

You have me confused with the other Viceroy guys...but hey what you do together is your business.


that car is lame because im totally positive that it never gets streeted ever. hell, how could it, its got like an amp rack in the window or something. the motor is very nice. BUT. the money spent on that couldve easily got an imported s15. which wouldve been way cooler than an s14.5 (possibly even lamer than an s13.5) cliffsnotes - stop putting s15 front ends on crap, people.

He has a track one also....


what do you roll on, 27 pound cobra knockoff alloys? shits tight grampa.


Real cobra wheels...they are only $100 or so new, why would some one buy knock offs...weight is around 20lbs a piece. Bought them until I figured out what I was going to do with the car. Sorry I don't run a car that looks like a skateboard like you...should get some dingleberries for your visor too..be JDM/South Central tyte.


yeah thats cool, im sorry youve had to own a honda in your lifetime. i dont roll with stuff like that. cruising the ef hatchback to the community college and all that. sorry man.


Techically yeah I did, 1992 GS-R in 1994 ran 14.x in the 1/4 stock. No torque though...something tells me you will still be cruising the middle school chicks (or junior high as you spin it) while going to community college/tech school. Sorry about that.


trolling? why would i troll in my own thread? do you even know what trolling means? viceroy circle jerk? viceroy is like me and 4 friends. i cant help it if half of zilvia thinks im the king dipshit, and the other half wants to kill me. the other 15% is in the recylce bin cause the mods asked me to keep it worksafe. not that shit that you said that made no sense.

I really thought no one, yet alone all you 4 guys couldn't be so fvcking retarded to post a basic thread like this. Damn, flamed me about what RUCA's to get and you can't even do what Joe Fucknut can do with a crutchfield setup in their front yard....freaking hysterical and sort of sad.

I understand exactly what you are talking about, I have been 'online' since before there was the 'internet'...there are posts back to 1992 of mine on some forums. You are the definition of a troll...by becoming one you have pretty much fuxored yourself from being taken seriously when you need help from guys that know. Unfortunately you had a typo above I corrected. Now it makes sense.

If you want some good advice though, forum.sounddomain.com has it.

[SoSideways]

I read somewhere that capacitors don't do anything other than to look cool in your car somewhere.

I forget where I read that article and I don't know if I'll be able to find it and post it up here, but the guy did some tests and found out there was no difference with the capacitor installed, or without it installed.

[94cc0rd]

read the link I posted about car batteries, capacitators, and such...

[SoSideways]

read the link I posted about car batteries, capacitators, and such...

I missed your post because there's too much drama going on in this thread for me to read each individual posts....

Sorry!

[BC240]

what a douchebag

[alkemyst]

I read somewhere that capacitors don't do anything other than to look cool in your car somewhere.

I forget where I read that article and I don't know if I'll be able to find it and post it up here, but the guy did some tests and found out there was no difference with the capacitor installed, or without it installed.

Capacitors are helpful...however; not for dimming lights...for that an upgraded BIG 3 (pretty easy to do on an S14) and if you are pushing major wattage an upgraded alternator (or an overdrive pulley can sometimes get away with it).

My amp draws pretty close to the limit of the factory alt., I usually lower it at lights anyway. I drive mostly with the windows down so at speed it's not an issue.

[alkemyst]

i love it, all components lack bass, hence why i have a Kappa sub.


Not true, unless you are talking subbass.

Infinity's I believe are known to have a weak midbass *edit* not to say they don't make for great speakers with a proper sub...Polk's have an accented midbass and the new Pioneers I believe also do (their TS-A1780's are a great upgrade for those running off the deck and not ready for components).

I am running CDT CL-62's...nice midbass...the EF-61's have a bit better at higher power and the HD-62's and beyond are really nice.

I bought the windshield pillar trim with tweeter mounts for about $40 for the pair from nissan.

The way I have the tweeter facing is not the best (down and in)...one day I will modify the mounting to get them facing straight across each other over the dash...this is normally a crappy way, but in an S14 it won IASCA (Scott Buwalda again back in the 90's)

Personally people spend too much on audio gear focusing on brand or what's hot now. You can score some great deals and have a freaking awesome system for just a little cash. My brother had all JL Audio...4 of their top components, two amps, a 10W6 and a nice Eclipse deck...he spent almost 3x what I did and he couldn't believe how my setup sounded so much better...."Even your fucking doors have bass; mine have nothing"

If you have to have someone else install it...you usually are going to get raped a bit...but if you go through the headaches to really do a good install then you will be rewarded. Install is much of the sound really.

If you have a S14 and want a good sounding ride but not a 150lb sub box in the back read up on the rear quarter panel installs. I don't think you will have an SPL winner, but it can sound really great and not much more weight. One added benefit for performance is you are adding the weight in front of the rear wheels instead of behind them.

[NemeGuero]

WTF happened to this thread? Jesus Christ.

[WILDACEX187]

how do u get rid of or avoid that engine noise when u have an amp connected to the speakers? u guys know wat im talking about that winding noise

[NemeGuero]

Bad grounding wire mang.

[WILDACEX187]

so a really good ground would get rid of that?

[SoSideways]

Bad grounding wire mang.

I thought that was a power wire issue?

Damn it, can't remember if my friend said if it was a power wire related issue or a ground wire related issue, but we were working on another friend's SC300 and he had mad alternator whine on his speakers.

[NemeGuero]

You have to make sure the paint is scraped away from where you ground the wiring.

Make sure connections are tight and clean and the noise will go away.

[WILDACEX187]

my friends civic has that crazy whine. i'll let him know tomorrow wat to do. thanx

[94cc0rd]

a good ground with paint scraped off is a good idea but thats alternator whine... thats from running your power wire and rcas on the same side... make sure you run your power wire on one side (driver side) and the RCAs on the opposite side (passenger side). common problem..

[alkemyst]

also insuffient ground. The longer the ground wire, the heavier guage it will need to be. It's best to keep it short and anchored to a main part of the body than just some interior sheet metal.

Also you may have to upgrade the main grounds in the vehicle if going with a major wattage system.

[Ian]

actually...you're wrong


http://rides-mag.com/DONK/cars/1972.Chevy.Impala.jpg
"Donk"


Use your brain to figure out the rest

*edited...1st pic was actually a box

[alkemyst]

actually...you're wrong


http://rides-mag.com/DONK/cars/1972.Chevy.Impala.jpg
"Donk"


Use your brain to figure out the rest

*edited...1st pic was actually a box

Viceroy is what you get when the Icy Hot Stuntaz get 'Silvias'.

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/f/f0/Icy_hot_Stuntaz.jpg

[Johny5]

alkemyst, are you like 5? is this all going over your head? go slave away on your catback comparisons, your input really isn't required here.

[alkemyst]

alkemyst, are you like 5? is this all going over your head? go slave away on your catback comparisons, your input really isn't required here.

Right...not so much fun when other's are doing the threadcrapping eh?

Not much to slave away on...it didn't take long to produce the list I have. Unfortunately not everyone is born of Viceroy and has supa stunta JDM knowledge. It gets a decent level of traffic, but thanks for noticing.

[usdm180sx]

WHY the FUCK are you even RESPONDING to these hypocrite tools? They call car audio "donkin" yet they seek advice about it.

FUCK 'EM. BTW why is viceroy "100% titty free?" Because viceroy CAN'T GET NONE. Why else would stew/stewie/stoopid make derogatory comments about having a family? BTW IIRC several mods on here are married with kids. What does jonny5 have to say about them?

[Johny5]

Right...not so much fun when other's are doing the threadcrapping eh?

Not much to slave away on...it didn't take long to produce the list I have. Unfortunately not everyone is born of Viceroy and has supa stunta JDM knowledge. It gets a decent level of traffic, but thanks for noticing.

are you still buttsore over the c's shifter bs? haha get a grip dude that shit was retarded and you know it.


"norm" i get plenty broham, i'm 21 do you really think i should be married by now? but trust me, i'm real jealous! i can only hope one day i'm an outdated sack of useless knowledge much like yourself with some adopted kids and a chuki life s13!

[usdm180sx]

are you still buttsore over the c's shifter bs? haha get a grip dude that shit was retarded and you know it.


"norm" i get plenty broham, i'm 21 do you really think i should be married by now? but trust me, i'm real jealous! i can only hope one day i'm an outdated sack of useless knowledge much like yourself with some adopted kids and a chuki life s13!

stewie, no make that sTUPID, YOU are the BIGGEST idiot I know. Seroiusly. Even more so than your "boy" mercer. BTW you forgot to put the word "cyber" before broham. If you ever want to compare s14's let me know. I'll own you all day long :keke:

Till then, you can continue driving over your 7 speed bumps to get to your shithole "rental" apartment. BTW I'll bow down when you can afford to own a $650k home, fix up your donkin s14 AND have a family.

BTW I'm still waiting to hear what you have to say about the mods here who are married and have kids.

[Johny5]

yeah dude, changing my name around, FRESH! your 5 year old hand that one to you straight out of the insult lineup? oh norm please lay your hotrod upon the pages of zilvia, dieing to see it!

[articdragon192]

If you ever want to compare s14's let me know. I'll own you all day long :keke:


Agreed.

oh norm please lay your hotrod upon the pages of zilvia, dieing to see it!
It's been posted already.

[usdm180sx]

yeah dude, changing my name around, FRESH! your 5 year old hand that one to you straight out of the insult lineup? oh norm please lay your hotrod upon the pages of zilvia, dieing to see it!

Why don't you post your opinion about what you have to say about the mods here who are married and have kids first?

But I'll entertain you for now. Can your car do this?
http://i97.photobucket.com/albums/l232/usdmsilvia/240DynoNorman.jpg

[Johny5]

oh no way! a dyno chart? you have laid down the law sir! THE BAR HAS BEEN RAIISEEEEED!!!!

i find it rather funny you want me to keep comparing you to the mods. the fact is, i don't often see the mods going around pulling the crap that you pull. if you're the grown-up here please act like it. instead you follow charlie russell and myself around like you just can't get enough of it. yet you're capt. mature i can afford a $650k house in cali (yo heads up compare that overpriced piece of cali property to anywhere else in the US, guess its not all that impressive now is it?) while building an s14. Barry doesn't go around giving viceroy anger handjobs, neither does kevin. both are doing the marriage/kid thing yet they don't have to act like fuckbags about it. i guess to sum it all up, maybe you should take notes from them?

[usdm180sx]

What's wrong, don't you have a dyno chart? Is that all you can post? Why don't you post a dyno chart of your car? Lemme guess....because your car doesn't make as much power. the only overpowered item you have is your ego and damn thet's WEAK, like a small child.

You know what? FUCK WHO's CAR is better. I KNOW I'll OWN you all day long. I'm MORE interested in seeing what you have to say about people on here who are married and have kids so that EVERYONE will see your character.

And if that's the case then why do you keep attacking me for having a "house and a family?" Just shut up stewie. I started following your posts because you started attacking me for having a family. If you're gonna attack people for having a family then don't single me out. I know why, that's all you can resort to because your shit is weak.

[Johny5]

my character? you think you know my character just from reading my posts online? please dude, i only hope people don't seriously do that. if that were the case, i can only imagine what people must think of you :\

[Johny5]

nah i don't have a dynochart, research 10 psi sr20s you'll see plenty, its right about the same.

[240trainee]

grow up people, and BTW, posting dyno graph to show how much of a man you are is possible the most lame post you could make. The Viceroy guys are having fun and pushing buttons, and this bullshit is just making it fun for them, and me, lol. Last time I checked, we all own 240's, and they suck. Live with it.

[chmercer]

hahahaha

usdmsilvia faggot patrol

ILL OWN YOU ALL DAY RIGHT AFTER I GET BACK FROM THE TELEMARKETING CENTER

TEENAGERS WAVE AT ME BECAUSE THEY DRIVE THE SAME CAR

be aware that if you try to be a douchebag its pretty easy to throw it right back

lol if you think any of our cars have been on a dyno. who fucking cares. you can pay money for a piece of paper if you think thats cool. about as cool as chuuki time

"why is viceroy "100% titty free?"

since you are retarded ill give you the low down. the naked bitch in the sig, originally had a titty on it, somone wanted me to edit it, so now its just a boob.

and about donkin car audio, who DOSENT want subs with neon rings around them?

[articdragon192]

Ahahaha, this is funny.

[NemeGuero]

Only if the neon rings "blink" with the bass..

[McRussellPants]

Man, this thread is donkin harder than any sub with a neon ring around it could ever donk.


lol at sub 350whp dyno.
SR20 KING OF DA STREETZAZAZAZAZA!!!!!!!

[Ian]

LMAO is that for real?


He's going to throw down < 350whp and talk about owning people?

Dude...how about you post pictures of your car...Power output is only a fraction of what makes a car...I have a friend with a MITSUBISHI COLT that makes 400+ and is MUCH faster than your car...Hell, it's much faster than most models of Ferarris...But you better believe I'd rather have a Ferarri any day...


Norm...Go find one of your kids and ask them, "hey kid, why is daddy such a fucking loser?"

Then they'll tell you the same shit that we're all saying, but maybe you'll believe them, because you certainly aren't listening here.

[gorgasm]

11-17-2006 01:49 PM Don’t worry, your emo fag ass ain’t worth it - usdmsilvia


ahahahah thanks for clarifying it was you my emo fag ass wouldnt have known otherwise. dont you have better things to be doing besides lurking internet forums all day waiting to hate on people. please, think of your children.

[McRussellPants]

If he was thinking of his children they wouldn't be his anymore, cali social services asleep at da wheel.

[WILDACEX187]

so yea clean grounds and seperate power cables from rca cables would get rid of the whine right? anything else would help? would a cap help? come on get back on the audio topic :bow:

[ThatGuy]

Well this has become completely pointless, hasn't it?

Enough bickering.

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