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misfitsfreak81
11-05-2006, 05:15 PM
hey there Zilvia. so here is the deal, im getting all new suspension shortly for my s14 and want some oppinions on what you all like the best. this includes coilovers and all the multi link pieces. post what you have/what you wish you had and why. thanks for all your oppinions.
mike
heres what im thinking of going with.
Tein super drift coilovers or Stance GRpros. pretty much nothing over $1500 for coilovers. $3000 total to spend.
for the rear multilink im thinking of going with the full kit from Battle versionk, as for the front im thinkin of Peak performance tension rods and iner and outer tie rods. once again thanks for your thoughts.:rawk:
ThatGuy
11-05-2006, 05:52 PM
Been hearing good reviews of Stance so far.
Personally I have SPL KTS and Full SPL arms on my S13. I am very happy with the quality. Just stay away from ebay/knock-off bullshit and you should be fine.
NI_YON_Zenki
11-05-2006, 06:02 PM
Put up a search for this. .. .I posted for another individual under these same circumstances. .. .But since you're trying to go for a cheap setup, my opinions might not suffice.
Word of advice, if you are looking for a coilover system and milti-link pieces included, all for $1500. .. .you better start asking the right questions.
Breakdown81
11-05-2006, 06:15 PM
Stance coilovers are awesome, the damper is amazing, and you can actually feel a difference between all the adjustment levels. I also use a combination of tein adjustable tie rods combined with battle version tension rods and rucas. they have worked extremely well so far. i can confidently say that the build quality betwen battle version and spl is extremely similar. SPL parts are slightly beefier, their RUCA for instance is about double the thickness of my battle version RUCA, they also flare their tension rod ends, i dont know the specifics of why, but im sure its a good reason. I also use the kazama subframe collars to compress and lock the subframe. when the coilovers have the damper reduced to race level it is an extremely responsive car. so id definitely reccomend these parts. good luck.
KA24DESOneThree
11-05-2006, 06:22 PM
I have KTS. They are fine for amateur hour but lack the proper damping qualities required for serious work. Same with pretty much any of the single-adjustable coilovers out there today; they're made to work on cars over a wide weight range with a wide range of wheel widths and grip levels.
Alex makes good stuff at Battle Version. So do the guys at Peak. I've not had experience with BV's stuff but I have had the opportunity to talk to him about strength and quality and he's very much inclined to produce parts that are about as high quality as a mass-produced part can get.
Peak's parts I do have experience with and they are, quite frankly, some of the highest-quality parts I have had the pleasure of dealing with.
I would not say a bad word about SPL because their customer service is second to none BUT I do not like the Nams arms they sell. The arms themselves are definitely stout enough but the rod ends are simply sub-par.
nissantfsx
11-05-2006, 06:29 PM
if ur budget is kinda low, u might wanna consider Megan...I just got the Megan Track Series on my 240...no complain so far...
misfitsfreak81
11-05-2006, 06:49 PM
im sorry i think some of you may have misunderstood my first post. the 1500 is for the coilovers only. i have a total of 3000 to spend on this stuff. i WILL NOT be going ebay for any of this shit. that is unless i find a good deal on well known name brand stuff.
Breakdown81, great post, thats the kinda post im lookin for.
keep it comin guys, im gonna be getting my setup within a week. thanks for the info.
mike
misfitsfreak81
11-06-2006, 12:12 PM
anyone else got an oppinion on this subject?
axiomatik
11-06-2006, 12:30 PM
yeah, search. every 2 weeks this exact same thread comes along.
if you're planning on going very low, i believe SPL toe arms allow you to go lower than BV.
Slidin240Wayz
11-06-2006, 12:56 PM
SPL tension rods
SPL/cusco RUCAS
SPL Outer Tie Rod ends with Z32 Inners
Peak Performance Toe and Traction rods
Coilovers- what's the car going to be setup for?
Carlos
94cc0rd
11-06-2006, 12:57 PM
i believe Battle Version is the only company that will sell you a replacement arm or multi-link part for one side only, if you purchased the original set from them.
I've also read only good things about Stance coilovers..
Stance coilovers + BV multilink
misfitsfreak81
11-06-2006, 01:31 PM
yes i know of searching, the problem is though that about 23457902358 bullshit threads come up. thank you though for taking the time to add your oppinion. Slidin240Wayz, thanks for your thoughts. the car is a daily driver with a little drifting on the side. hopefully next summer it will be drifted more offten.
got the cash today, gonna start ordering probly tomorrow. any one elses thoughts are more than welcome. thanks
mike
drew935
11-06-2006, 02:32 PM
I have Cusco zero2 coilovers and have swapped out the springs with Swift springs. Can't say the amounts that I have paid but that setup was less than $1500 for me. And yes, the parts were brand new when I bought them. Nothing but the best for me. ;)
MadScientist
11-06-2006, 02:56 PM
Hear alot of good things about Stance.
Multi Link Arms $1500... you can get alot. If you car about the color then stay away from Kazama, they fade baddly. If you dont care or just want a plain silver suspension, alot of guys on here have SPL... IMO they are the same as Silk Road or Tanabe.
Peace
Drew
misfitsfreak81
11-06-2006, 03:52 PM
drew935 hook up a fellow zilvia person with that sweet deal, i would love to have zero-2's with swift springs. especially for around 1500.
well im gonna do some more looking around. keep the imput coming.
mike
ManoNegra
11-06-2006, 03:54 PM
I can vouch for SPL and Stance. Good shit.
SoSideways
11-06-2006, 04:03 PM
I can also vouch for SPL and Stance.
Rocking the Stance coilovers on my S13 now and it rocks. Friend just bought some for his S14, and those rock.
I have the SPL part v1 T/C rods, and have had those for 3 years. I don't have any boots or anything for the rod ends, and live in FL (by the beach too, so salty air owns everything around here), and they have held up perfectly fine. Only thing that maybe of problem is that the bolts that came with the v1 T/C rods are not coated (or at least it seems that way?), so they're starting to rust. I'm not sure if the bolts that come with the v2 T/C rods are different, so I cannot say anything bad about the v2 T/C rods. But just because there's some surface rust on my bolts, I am completely happy with the SPL parts v1 T/C rods, and plan to upgrade to the v2's soon.
drift freaq
11-06-2006, 04:08 PM
i believe Battle Version is the only company that will sell you a replacement arm or multi-link part for one side only, if you purchased the original set from them.
I've also read only good things about Stance coilovers..
Stance coilovers + BV multilink
Actually your wrong. SPL will do that as well. I have a set of S14 SPL Version 2 TC rods with one end slightly bent( the side that bolts to the LCA and it came off a wrecked chassis). I was able to order the one piece for it and actually get the shorter pieces for S13. End result I wound up with a set of SPL Version 2 TC rods for S13 a very good deal. I am quite happy and cannot complain about their customer service or the way that they went out of there way to accomadate my needs, KUAH rocks!! in my book.
That said ya I am going with Stance in the Coilover department to replace my current setup. Before Stance came out I was seriously considering the KTS though.
Jefferson
11-06-2006, 06:15 PM
Coilovers- Stance is the way to go (at least for me) I have Tein's and my friends stance coilovers blow mine out of the water by far.
Tension rods- I have the SPL V2 and have not seen or tried anything better till this day
RUCA- I have Battle version and love them every bit, but compared to my friends CUsco's, plain and simple the Cusco's look waayy beefier. If I had to buy RUCA's again SPL/Cusco would be my choice
Tie rod ends- I have Megan rod ends but am upgrading in a few weeks to the SPL Z32 inners/short outer
staygold24
11-06-2006, 06:39 PM
I dont mean to jack the thread but with the stance and their higher version gr pro what exactly is the difference? I know the pro have helper springs but does that just let you go lower or is there a difference in the dampening? Im also looking at stance for coils but didnt know which one to look for.
Quigs
11-06-2006, 07:20 PM
For the RUCAs I would definately go with something like Cuscos or SPLs. Like Jefferson said, the Cuscos are really beefy (I have them on my s13) I need better coilovers though...rollin on some cheap Ksports. I agree with many of the other people though that I have not heard anything but good things about the quality of Stances coilovers. Hope this helps a bit.
Jefferson
11-06-2006, 08:25 PM
I believe the only difference in the GR+ Pro is just the rear lower mount brackets and the helper springs.
Someone correct me if I am wrong though
misfitsfreak81
11-06-2006, 10:01 PM
wow seems that stance are super popular. the only thing thats really keeping me from jumping on that wagon as well is the adjustments. call me lazy if you will but i love the idea of getting the EDFC for the tein so i dont have to pop the hood or crall into the trunk every time i want to make a change. so with that said, here is my next question. how easy/hard are the stance coilovers to adjust? and to any haters out there, i AM a certified mechanic so its not a matter of not being able to adjust stuff, just a matter of no time and sheer lazyness. once again thanks to everyone for their imput. keep it coming.
mike
DriftSpecial180
11-07-2006, 01:03 AM
Dun Dun Dun
http://www.silkroad-jp.com/img/section/rma64/image.jpg
You always get what you pay for. Stance or Silk Road, good bang for the buck. I was on silk road, not on KTS. I like them, but they don't go as low. KTS's are pretty beefy tho
CKAMC
11-07-2006, 02:53 AM
FYI megans are starting to sag in the rear coils now.....
redsuns3838
11-07-2006, 03:16 AM
silk road is an awesome coilover for the price. i love mine. everyone loves theirs. and damn those RM/A64s look ILL.
RM/A8 is around 1400 or so, right in your pricerange so look into it.
articdragon192
11-07-2006, 03:26 AM
Look into Sevens also.
Jung918
11-07-2006, 04:02 AM
The Tein mono flex should be comming out soon. The edfc does make life easier and that is one of the reasons why i'm thinking about getting them.
kenversusryu
11-07-2006, 06:28 AM
I don't have the superdrifts but i'm running Flex's. I've seen the comparison pics between teins and stance's and i believe the stances are way beefier in comparison. I'm also assuming its a tiny bit heavier seeing as to how they are beefier.
Although my flex's are in perfect working order, If I was to start over i would go with the stance. PLUS extra free set of springs is a plus!
Jefferson
11-07-2006, 03:05 PM
misfitsfreak - the stance coilovers are super easy to adjust just like every other coilover out there. turn the knob to adjust stiffnes and spin collars to adjust height
If you want to be reall lazy then go ahead and get the Teins, but I would strongly suggest STance over Tein, and this is coming from a Tein coilover owner. Simply put Stances compared to either of my Tein coilovers the Sances are so much beefier
KiDyNomiTe
11-07-2006, 05:13 PM
Like most said STANCE is best bang for buck. Battle Version and Peak are both great, cant go wrong with either or. I would suggest buying from the same place and you might be able to get a good deal if you are buying all at the same time.
If you get Peak you can atleast get the whole thing, I don't beleive BV sells Tie Rods.
Slidin240Wayz
11-07-2006, 05:28 PM
If you want a good coilover and inside adjustability look into the Tanabe Sevens with the TEAS technology. Around $2300 for the setup.
Carlos
drftmark
11-07-2006, 05:58 PM
or zeal
msglengthsucksnipples
misfitsfreak81
11-07-2006, 08:42 PM
heres the update.
i went with the stance GR+ pros. get this shit, they are working on coming up with a controller similar to the edfc or the tenabe TEAS system. this is what totally sealed the deal for me. something to look forward to. i also went with a complete setup from SPL, all the rear arms and front tension brackets. i also got peak performance pro inner and outer tie rods as well as the subframe bushings. so i should be pretty much set. anyone know where the best place to get a Energy Suspension bushing master set is? thanks to everyone who chipped in with their 2 cents.
mike
irritatedmax
11-07-2006, 09:09 PM
sounds like you have a hell of a setup.
just to reiterate what you have been hearing, i have stance coils on my s14 and they are sweet. i also have peak ruca's and they are super high quality and such a good price compared to cusco, kazama, etc. it is all high quality stuff.
is the stance controller going to be availble for both types? i wouldn't see why not but who knows. i might have to look into that if so.
KwKouki
11-07-2006, 10:17 PM
The Stances were the best $1050 spent to date on my car. 4 massive units, 2 sets of springs *for s chassis* pillowball front camber plates, and incredible packing job by touge factory.
The finish is great for me too. I live in Key West FL. This is the place that if you dont polish your chrome every 4 days, you better like the color of rust. All the aluminum is anodized, and the brackets are powdercoated. My one concern is the damping knob. I dont know about other coilovers, but these are allen wrenched down like universal shift knobs. I hope the front knobs dont come loose while driving.
Now all thats left for me is multi-link. I am considering a full SPL setup.
I am excited to see the damper controller though, any word on when these will be out?
misfitsfreak81
11-08-2006, 09:21 PM
yeah the damper controller should be sweet. scott at Touge Factory didnt have any more info than that on them though, just that they are working on it. KwKouki that is a sick price, i unfortunately paid 1250 for mine shipped. on the plus side though i ordered them yesterday after noon and they were on my porch this morning. and no, i did not pay for over night or anything extra like that. i called Touge Factory to thank them for having their shit TOTALLY together and running a business right. those guys kick serious ass.
so i had a change of plan on the multi link, unfortunately SPL was out of the RUCA'S and toe rods. no big deal, i just got the v2 tension rods from them instead and went with Battle Version Rear arms. hopefully everything is hear by the middle of next week so i can get it all put on. i will let you know how everything goes. thanks to everyone.
mike
staygold24
11-08-2006, 09:27 PM
wow good news. im deffinately going with stance in the future. how do you like the gr pros and just how high can they go? I have an incredibly high driveway but dont really want it high. Also does anyone have any word on ckpowertrix or whatever that guys companys name is that sells full suspension kits on this website in the dealer specials? price looks good, any word on quality?
misfitsfreak81
11-08-2006, 10:02 PM
wow good news. im deffinately going with stance in the future. how do you like the gr pros and just how high can they go? I have an incredibly high driveway but dont really want it high. Also does anyone have any word on ckpowertrix or whatever that guys companys name is that sells full suspension kits on this website in the dealer specials? price looks good, any word on quality?
i dont have them installed yet, but the quality of the build is great (GR+Pros) and extra set of springs is pretty sweet too. they look to be able to go pretty high and also pretty damn low. i also wondered about the powertrix stuff, i have not seen anything about them on here other than their group buy. give em a call and see what you think. they may have some super quality shit at real good prices, you never know till you try i guess. or till 800 people on here say they are good/bad. haha. let us know what you find out about them (powertrix).
mike
staygold24
11-08-2006, 10:11 PM
allright, keep us updated when you install them Id like to know the full adjustability of the height on them.
Im not in the market for suspension as of yet but maybe in a few months. If I decide to go with powertrix I will provide a write up with it.
If you dont mind me asking how much did your full suspension cost you? Any sways on the car?
misfitsfreak81
11-09-2006, 02:48 PM
i think ive got about 2200 into the entire suspension. thats for everything that i have listed in previous replys. i do have sways, they are factory front and rear. i will upgradeing the bushings on them though.
misfitsfreak81
11-17-2006, 03:19 PM
so heres an update.
on tuesday i got the SPL tension rods in the mail. DAMN these things are mad beefy. they look to be super strong and very well made.
i also got the rear multi link stuff from Battle Version. not as beefy, but still VERY well made. the stickers that they put on them are pretty funny as well. stating that the product contains chemicals known by the state of california to cause cancer and such. that just seemed like a goofy sticker to have on a suspension component.
well thats all for now, im still waiting on the Peak Performance inner and outter tie rods. once they are here its all going on the car. till then.
mike
psychoblue23
11-17-2006, 03:53 PM
The stickers that they put on them are pretty funny as well. stating that the product contains chemicals known by the state of california to cause cancer and such. that just seemed like a goofy sticker to have on a suspension component.
mike
Ya I have noticed a lot of signs saying stuff like that here in Ca. Like at resturants.. saying that painted class has lead that has been known to cause cancer.. I was liek wtf? It was from Prop 65 or something.
anyways.. cool thread.. I will deff look into Stance for my S13. Congrats on the new stuff. Sounds like a dope setup.
Its also nice to ehar about a company with good customer service. Seems kind of rare for our scene. Ill have to check them out too.
James
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