what mods need to be done to fit s13 dart izumi on s14?

[overb0ost]

http://img156.imageshack.us/img156/3277/rearnn9.jpg

i'm looking to buy this s13 dart izumi exhaust and fit it on my s14. do you know if it will be an easy thing to do? what would need to be done?

getting it for 750CAD
2500kms on it

around the same price to get a custom one made or maybe even a bit more.

[kuramaya]

We put an S13 Kakimoto on an S14 with a little bit of bendin and pushin.

off topic, that car is super dorifto JDM tight...Option sticker over the muffler and all...

[MadScientist]

S13 vs S14 the Hangers and Bends are in different places.

If your going to destroy a Dart Izumi you might as well get a custom made exhaust IMO.

Peace
Drew

[mrmephistopheles]

Yeah don't fuck up a Dart. Get custom made instead.

[GSXRJJordan]

+1

A good exhaust shop will have 3" piping and some 3" mandrel bent pieces lying around anyway. It cost me $120 for my 3" straight pipe, and it's got less bends than almost any aftermarket system I've seen... just a lil loud ;P

[overb0ost]

i heard that you have to add 1-2 inches to the cat flange area to make the hinges meet and thats pretty much it.

anyone know for sure? by doing the above, i don't think that messes up the exhaust at all. just makes the exhaust fit the car.

custom would be the same or more money without the name, might as well pay the same amount and get the name with it. just my opinion

[mrmephistopheles]

Actually I take my advice back.

Pay way too much for that used exhaust, hack it up beyond use, and jury-rig it to your car.

Be sure to let everyone know exactly how JDM tYte you are for having done so.

[overb0ost]

750CAD = around 650USD.

i havn't seen any dart izumi exhausts that sell for under 700USD, and if they are, they are fake ones because you can tell by where the bends are before the hangers.

and 2500kms is not a lot, esp if its in japan.

i like the dart izumi because it doesn't have a huge can at the end, and its dual tip which makes it look clean and not overdone. i'm not trying to be JDM tyte or what not, i cant help the fact that japan makes good exhausts with style. Name me another exhaust except for Trust DD that has a similar dual tip that isnt 4" big. Only thing a little similar to it is the Gp Sport exhaust, but again, that has 2 huge canasters before the tips.

I might take ur advice and go custom, but i just want to know why you said i would have to hack it up to have it fit the s14. Yes the bends are different but not completley and totally off. Maybe i'm wrong, just want to see what people's inputs are from having first hand experience with this sort of thing.

[Phlip]

i heard that you have to add 1-2 inches to the cat flange area to make the hinges meet and thats pretty much it.

anyone know for sure? by doing the above, i don't think that messes up the exhaust at all. just makes the exhaust fit the car.

custom would be the same or more money without the name, might as well pay the same amount and get the name with it. just my opinion
So what you're saying that it is acceptable to spend more money for the simple acquisition, then MORE for the modification of an exhaust when compared to getting one custom made?
I call bullshit.
I have had my own custom setup questioned and re-created by people with exhausts costing 1-200 MORE than I put into it. One friend has described the sound emitting from it as, and I QUOTE "... and Phillip's exhaust sounds better than a pussy-skin drum!"

... please rethink what you're doing before you ruin something.





... because bullshit ain't nothin' but chewed-up grass

[overb0ost]

So what you're saying that it is acceptable to spend more money for the simple acquisition, then MORE for the modification of an exhaust when compared to getting one custom made?
I call bullshit.
I have had my own custom setup questioned and re-created by people with exhausts costing 1-200 MORE than I put into it. One friend has described the sound emitting from it as, and I QUOTE "... and Phillip's exhaust sounds better than a pussy-skin drum!"

... please rethink what you're doing before you ruin something.





... because bullshit ain't nothin' but chewed-up grass

i see your point. i guess i was too caught up in the fact that i saw a real dart izumi exhaust IN CANADA for sale, i quickly jumped on the fact that i could have an exhaust i'd be satisfied with and not thinking about how much im spending on making it fit. i guess if done properly, it would cost around 1g for the exhaust and custom work to get it to fit nicely.

thanks for sheding some light!

btw, does anyone have a picture of the TRUST DD setup? i'm wondering which area of the exhaust the resonator is located.

[Phlip]

http://www.speedfactory.co.nz/img/performance/exhaust/large/Exhaust%2010.jpg
resonator on the right, rear section on the left, I prefer what I have, personally

[overb0ost]

thanks for the pic!

what setup do you have?

i wonder how much that resonator would run me....those don't seem too common, at least in Canada.

[Rayne]

i like the dart izumi because it doesn't have a huge can at the end, and its dual tip which makes it look clean and not overdone. i'm not trying to be JDM tyte or what not, i cant help the fact that japan makes good exhausts with style. Name me another exhaust except for Trust DD that has a similar dual tip that isnt 4" big. Only thing a little similar to it is the Gp Sport exhaust, but again, that has 2 huge canasters before the tips.


Up until I noticed the underlined phrase....I was going to mention the Apexi N1 Dual......Dual tips, but the tips aren't the same. Angled vs. Straight

[A Spec Products]

thanks for the pic!

what setup do you have?

i wonder how much that resonator would run me....those don't seem too common, at least in Canada.

That's the Greddy/Trust DD that the person above him asked for.

That's not really a "resonator," its the "muffler" in that exhaust system. If you go custom, you can just run a regular resonator with single pipe. Then Y pipe it and run dual pipes.

Or, just buy a oval can single in dual out and then run dual pipes.

A lot of dudes be getting caught up on this Dart Izumi hype. Its just an exhaust guys, go custom, its cheaper and you can make up whatever your heart desires.

[overb0ost]

That's the Greddy/Trust DD that the person above him asked for.

That's not really a "resonator," its the "muffler" in that exhaust system. If you go custom, you can just run a regular resonator with single pipe. Then Y pipe it and run dual pipes.

Or, just buy a oval can single in dual out and then run dual pipes.

A lot of dudes be getting caught up on this Dart Izumi hype. Its just an exhaust guys, go custom, its cheaper and you can make up whatever your heart desires.

what sound differences would be for the two? i'm looking for a nice deep tone, and not ricey.

oh this will be going on my stock KA, but will be turbo'ed after, so it'll be toned down a bit. and yes it will be 3" piping.

[!Zar!]

Dart will make your car sound loud/ricey as hell without turbo.

Trust DD will sound a little better since it has a muffler.

[mrmephistopheles]

Alot of people don't even realize how truly loud and obnoxious a car with a Dart is. I keep my silencers in at almost all times, simply because it's too loud for *my* taste. I can't justify waking up neighbors at 5am when I go start the car in the morning, just because it's ungodly loud at idle.
It's just too awesome to trade out for another exhaust, and for the times when I want the silencers out, it's well worth the noise (it sounds like a damn pissed off racecar exhaust note).

[A Spec Products]

^ Yeah what !Zar! said.

Either will be loud.

Just go custom and run resonators and muffler.

To rock the Dart, you gotta have the complete package to be able to pull it off.

Loud pipes are kinda meh when you ain't executing it right whodey.

[Phlip]

thanks for the pic!

what setup do you have?

i wonder how much that resonator would run me....those don't seem too common, at least in Canada.
What do I have? Custom, details here, since there is a newly repeated "exhaust" thread 3 times EVERY week:
http://www.zilvia.net/f/showpost.php?p=1125371&postcount=12
Canada shouldn't be the problem, doesn't Summit Racing deliver there? www.summitracing.com

[mrmephistopheles]

What do I have? Custom, details here, since there is a newly repeated "exhaust" thread 3 times EVERY week:
http://www.zilvia.net/f/showpost.php?p=1125371&postcount=12
Canada shouldn't be the problem, doesn't Summit Racing deliver there? www.summitracing.com
Why don't you copy the text of that post word for word into your vBGallery and direct people there?

[5t341tH]

sorry to jack ur thread
but im looking to make a custom exhaust system. im pretty new to this whole thing so im not sure what i need or where to go to make one.
im located in the OC area in socal and i just want to know what shops can make it for me and what parts do i need to bring to them
thanks

[Gnnr]

^DUDE! Follow Philip's link! Geesh! Did you even read this thread?

[overb0ost]

i'm just wondering now, not sure if it has been addressed or if i missed it, but what difference does it make where the resonator/muffler is placed? the Trust DD one looks like its futher back compared to most mufflers which are right before the tips. any difference? or is it all just preference?

[chmercer]

its further back cause there is more room for it back there or somthing

originally one of the selling points of the DD was that it had good ground clearance which is retarded because every DD ive seen is always dragging the road, but, i dunno

[!Zar!]

Trust dd's have great clearance if you use your brain on how to raise it up.

[chmercer]

well yeah but so does every other exhaust

regardless

paying 650 for a straight pipe exhaust is bukk futter

3 inch stainless pipe is not expensive

it does not magically increase in value if some japanese guy shoots a mig welder at it

or maybe, on zilvia, it does?

[staygold24]

i think it does. its called quality kind of like paying for real shit like vertex instead of an ebay kit. id pay alot for name brand exhaust but cant afford it and deffinately cant afford a perfectly good exhaust then chopping it up when you can just go custom.