Fan Controller Options- Pivot:HKS:Saga 5.0:Yashio Factory

[95zilvia]

Been debating what to use to control my electric fan.
I hate the stupid thermostats that you have to plug into the radiator and have 8 stupid wires and no digital readout.
Overheated my car 3 times lately cuz the shit keeps fucking up and the wiring is hecka ugly. (My fault, didn't like the thermostatic controller)
Plus, I already have a Blitz upper radiator hose and it's just plugged up waiting to be used!


So anyways, options!, experiences!, preferences!, and suggestions! welcome.

Pivot Fan Controller ~$130
http://www.intakeone.com/images/Pivot/index_PIVFCG_B.jpg
Right now I am leaning towards this one, it has both Farenheit and Celsius and I prefer Farenheit, which the YF one does not have.
But I like the warning function on the HKS one.

HKS Fan Speed Controller ~$180
http://us.st11.yimg.com/us.st.yimg.com/I/phase2motorsports_1911_48718232
This one is nice but it's expensive, plus I think you have to get a seperate part to control the fan or to read temp or something.
I also like it because it has a warning function.

Saga 5.0 Temp Gauge w/ Fan Controller ~$130 Gauge ~$40 Fan Controller
http://www.autodials.co.uk/images/Saga/Saga/Saga%20V5%20Water%20white.jpg
This one is OK, but I am leaning toward a digital readout.

Yashio Factory Okachan Watertemp ~$150
http://www.raretrick.com/store/images/products/7378_prime.jpg
This one would be my second choice, but it only reads in celsius....


I know, some people like to keep stock clutch fan and shroud, but I dont know.
I really like electric fan and how clean/empty the engine bay looks without it.

So.. what you guys think!

[florante rea]

richard. just go with the hks one. i'm getting that soon cause it just provides all the functions u just mentioned. good luck

[atom]

Greddy MSS............but of those you listed the pivot one is ok too. But yeah Greddy MSS is #1 IMO.

[projectRDM]

I've got the Pivot unit and love it, it's also smaller than the HKS and easier to mount in tight spots. They have a few different versions, if you can find the one that ties into the OE sender get it, mine has it's own sender that goes into the radiator hose, didn't really like that option but I didn't see the other model at the time. There's also one that meters oil temps also and does fan control.

[slideways2004]

I've got the Pivot unit and love it, it's also smaller than the HKS and easier to mount in tight spots. They have a few different versions, if you can find the one that ties into the OE sender get it, mine has it's own sender that goes into the radiator hose, didn't really like that option but I didn't see the other model at the time. There's also one that meters oil temps also and does fan control.

the separate sender that the pivot has, is the same size as lets say a autometer gauge?

[JohnC]

Spal alsohas a fan controller
not expensive and might be worth checking.

John

[drift freaq]

my fans are just hard wired to into the stock air cond fan circuit but set up to come on almost immediately upon startup of my engine. They are on all the time. Thats okay in my book though. I would rather have them running then the chance of a aftermarket temp sensor failing.

[dvdevo]

richard. just go with the hks one. i'm getting that soon cause it just provides all the functions u just mentioned. good luck


His name is richard?!?! uh?

Anyways, everyone I talk to likes the hks unit. The saga seems to be cool (especially since I dont have a water temp gauge yet :bite: ) And 40 bucks more for the fan controlling unit, pretty good deal.

[95zilvia]

LOL florante, forgot my name already, this is Jon, hope u get the motor mounts on Monday.

I am kind of leaning towards the Pivot one. Dont really like HKS for some reason, ohyeah, cuz I can't afford it! LOL.

Russ, for the Pivot one, I did see the other one with the oil temp metering, but I think I want to put it into the upper radiator hose.

David, what temp gauge are u gonna get? I bet you're still rockin clutch fan/shroud, just stick with that, less headache lol.

[Rittmeister]

I have the Pivot. It's wired into the stock ECU temp sender wire, and I used the provided extra temp sensor for the oil temp function (it will read both). It works great, very simple to use.

Mine only reads in Celsius though - the one pictured above, is it a newer version? I only got mine last summer :(

[projectRDM]

The newer Pivots may not have that option, on mine it's a dipswitch on the unit.
The sender is just like any other Greddy/HKS/Blitz temp probe, works fine I just hate having the adapter cut into the hose. Ever since I realized they make one without the sender I haven't been able to find it anywhere.

[dvdevo]

hrmm after you mentioned the pivot, maybe i should get that instead of a plain ole gauge.

[Pstl_pete]

I have an HKS and love it. Its an awesome unit and really simple to use. Can control two fans to come on a diff temps. Has great display and warning. There is really nothing that I dont like about it.

[neilsan]

I've got an old flex-a-lite thermostatic switch controlling a relay to power the O.E. A/C fan on my Koyo, never once had a problem this summer with overheating. Even on the 100*+ humid days the fan clicked on and off like one should... and I don't even have the sender in the coolant, it's held onto the t-stat housing inlet with worm gear clamps. never once did i wish i could get more out of my cooling system, but then again I'm running a mild setup... basically as much as you can get out of a stock tune on a t-25 sr. i don't know how it'd handle pushing 300hp

[95zilvia]

I have the Pivot. It's wired into the stock ECU temp sender wire, and I used the provided extra temp sensor for the oil temp function (it will read both). It works great, very simple to use.

Mine only reads in Celsius though - the one pictured above, is it a newer version? I only got mine last summer :(

Yours might be this one.
Pivot _Super_ Temperature Controller
http://www.intakeone.com/images/Pivot/index_STC_BIG.gif
This one can display oil temp and water temp.
But you're saying this one only displays Celsius? If so, I will stay away from this one.

[!Zar!]

I'm running the saga 5.0.

It still works so I'm happy.

[Rittmeister]

Yours might be this one.
Pivot _Super_ Temperature Controller
http://www.intakeone.com/images/Pivot/index_STC_BIG.gif
This one can display oil temp and water temp.
But you're saying this one only displays Celsius? If so, I will stay away from this one.

Yup, that's the one I've got, and yup, it reads oil AND water, and only in Celsius.

Believe it or not, the Celsius was much easier to get used to than I thought. The main thing to remember is that north of 100* is bad...

[Gnnr]

To quote S13Eye, the person who recommend me the Greddy MSS:

Greddy Multi Switching System

http://www.trust-power.com/02greddy/electricparts/images/mss_01.jpg

It costs as much as a high end temp gauge. It will display coolant temperature, RPM, and vehicle speed. A warning can be set to sound and flash when either of the 3 inputs reaches a set value. Best of all, the MSS has 2 outputs that can be used to activate relays, which in turn can operate anything you want - electric fans as an example.

Its great. Works like a charm.

[kingsol]

See, too much trouble. Clutch fan forever!

[blackflag_Rms13]

Klutch fan fo' lyfe!

[articdragon192]

My clutch fan is siezed. Clutch fan FTL.

[bruinbear714]

This unit uses factory sensor, and includes everything you need to get it going. And best of all, it has on board relays to simplify wiring FTW! I've been using it for the last year without any issues.

http://www.frsport.com/images/DIF/DIF_DFC4.jpg
http://www.frsport.com/images/DIF_DFC2.jpg

DIF dual fan controller from phase2 (http://phase2motorsports.stores.yahoo.net/difdufanco.html)

[theicecreamdan]

saga 5.0
Digital takes too long to read.
just angle the analog gauge so everything gives you a thumbs up when its good, sideways bad.

[95zilvia]

Motherfucking tried to put on clutch fan today.
Went to my friends house
Parts car DOHC KA
Get some parts, DOHC throttle cable/bracket, fan shroud/fan

Put the shroud on, fuck, it's not aligned right.
Put the fan on, fuck it's hitting the crank pulley.

ARGHHHHHHHHHH. Stickin with the electric fan.
Gonna get a controller.
GRRRRRRRRRR.

[redsuns3838]

if your having overheating problems usually a fanshroud and clutch fan is the best way to go. my friend had overheating problems cuz of electric fans. just run clutch fan unless it gets to be a higher temp then have the electrics kick in.

dont go with HKS. not worth the $, just get a pivot or YF if your dead set on it. screw F readings. C is easy to read. if your not used to it i doubt itll take more than like what? 3 days to get used to it?

[porkybmx]

This unit uses factory sensor, and includes everything you need to get it going. And best of all, it has on board relays to simplify wiring FTW! I've been using it for the last year without any issues.

DIF dual fan controller from phase2 (http://phase2motorsports.stores.yahoo.net/difdufanco.html)


+1 For the DIF Fan Controller Unit. I doubt many of the other fan controller's have as little wiring as the DIF unit. Reading off the factory temp sensor is also a plus. It's also able to control two fans, so based on your engine's coolant temp, it'll determine whether or not to run both fans. It's a no hassles unit that is easy to install. Done and Done. The hardware that comes with the DIF unit is top notch. Although I got the first batch of DIF fan controller, the instructions were'nt polished yet. The instructions have since been re-written, so I've been told, so installation should be even easier.

[95zilvia]

Ok, so for now I just put on a SR clutch fan
It's working great, no fan shroud atm tho.
I left my electric fan on the radiator, just not connected to anything.
I think what I want to do is leave stock clutch fan and shroud but also leave the electric fan.
I wanted a water temp metering device anyways.
I think I might get the Yashio Factory one :)
Or damnit, Pivot is still an option.

[zads]

The thermostatic fan controllers work just fine, your wiring or installation is probably just sketchy.. get it soldered in right, and you'll be done after $20.. less wiring clutter IMO (no wires running to the cabin, everything is right next to the radiator and battery... zip ties are your friend). no electronics bling factor there though, sorry.

On the other end of the spectrum, you can get a AEM EMS and control everything on your car with one unit :D

[hybrid_eg]

you can simply get a "hayden" thermostatic fan switch i believe its $30 bucks it works great.. you can simply adjust it when you want your fans to kick it.. simple as that.. works great and you will not a break a budget.. my 02 cents.. of course a water temp gauge is highly suggested on any modified car with an aftermarket cooling system :-)

[sean350z]

anyone score one of these bad boys...?

http://img.store.yahoo.co.jp/I/carshop_1915_32354736

[zens14]

+1 For the DIF Fan Controller Unit. I've been using it for the last year without any issues.