View Full Version : First Photos: Megan's New KA-T and T3/T4 SR20DET Top Mount Turbo Manifolds.
umsports
08-30-2006, 08:32 PM
Whoot Whoot...The New Manifolds have arrived at Underground for test fitting before Megan Racing releases them to the public...
We will be doing the test fits this weekend, but I wanted to post up some photos beforehand...
The extra bracing is a great new feature on their new line of manifolds....full T-304 Stainless Steel...
KA24DET Turbo Manifold
http://www.undergroundmotorsports.com/images/srtopmanifold1.jpg
http://www.undergroundmotorsports.com/images/srtopmanifold2.jpg
http://www.undergroundmotorsports.com/images/srtopmanifold3.jpg
http://www.undergroundmotorsports.com/images/srtopmanifold4.jpg
http://www.undergroundmotorsports.com/images/srtopmanifold5.jpg
http://www.undergroundmotorsports.com/images/srtopmanifold6.jpg
T3/T4 SR20DET Top Mount Manifold Pics
http://www.undergroundmotorsports.com/images/katmanifold1.jpg
http://www.undergroundmotorsports.com/images/katmanifold2.jpg
http://www.undergroundmotorsports.com/images/katmanifold3.jpg
http://www.undergroundmotorsports.com/images/katmanifold4.jpg
http://www.undergroundmotorsports.com/images/katmanifold5.jpg
http://www.undergroundmotorsports.com/images/katmanifold6.jpg
Dousan_PG
08-30-2006, 08:42 PM
good for low budget
my friend had one exactly like that, by another ebay spl co
cracked the first day
hahahahaha
exactly to a T like that
shitty collector
decent welds
so so design
welded outside only
and flange to head desing ready to crack and warp w/ the expansion.
nice!
sncs14
08-30-2006, 08:43 PM
Yeah, the flange should be cut between the ports
umsports
08-30-2006, 08:46 PM
good for low budget
my friend had one exactly like that, by another ebay spl co
cracked the first day
hahahahaha
exactly to a T like that
shitty collector
decent welds
so so design
welded outside only
and flange to head desing ready to crack and warp w/ the expansion.
nice!
These are good for any budget....McKinney Motorsports runs the Megan Racing SR20DET Bottom Mount Turbo Manifold on their Formula D Drift Cars...
I have not had one MR Manifold/Header returned to me in five years, and that's a great record for any product I've sold.
sepulchral
08-30-2006, 08:50 PM
megan racing != ssautochrome
!= is not equal to
TipStylez
08-30-2006, 09:12 PM
^What do you mean by "megan racing = ssautochrome?"
http://www.undergroundmotorsports.com/images/katmanifold5.jpg
Thats pretty good quality for a budget company.
sepulchral
08-30-2006, 09:19 PM
^What do you mean by "megan racing = ssautochrome?"
Thats pretty good quality for a budget company.
you either didnt read my post carefully or you've never computer programmed in ur life :D
cdlong
08-30-2006, 09:33 PM
what turbo is the KA manifold for?
cdlong
08-30-2006, 09:36 PM
you either didnt read my post carefully or you've never computer programmed in ur life :D
'≠' there you go. character map to the rescue.
megan racing ≠ ssautochrome
Big Zee
08-30-2006, 09:43 PM
and when does the megan manifold get released to public ?
umsports
08-30-2006, 09:48 PM
and when does the megan manifold get released to public ?
Once we test fit them, it will take about 3-4 weeks to get the first shipment of production models instock...
punxva
08-30-2006, 10:29 PM
about whats the price gonna be on these?
lord_hypnos
08-30-2006, 11:27 PM
about whats the price gonna be on these?
+1 I'm goin KA-t and I'm lookin for a good(quality) cheap (price) manifold. Also what flange is gonna be on it? T3? T2? Your choice?
wntrcoatblu240
08-31-2006, 02:19 AM
yah.. interested in the price.. i'm looking to go ka-t this might be the way..
TipStylez
08-31-2006, 04:46 AM
Will this be fore SOHC and DOHC? I mostly find DOHC and its kinda hard to not find a SOHC version that dosnt cost alot.
umsports
08-31-2006, 04:54 AM
+1 I'm goin KA-t and I'm lookin for a good(quality) cheap (price) manifold. Also what flange is gonna be on it? T3? T2? Your choice?
This flange looks to be a T2, but I will confirm that later today....
We will have a T3/T4 KA-T Manifold coming in end of September...
Pricing has not been set yet, but they will both be under $200...(I dont want to say until I am for 100% sure)
punxva
08-31-2006, 07:27 AM
wow, thats great, keep us up to date about it, because i'll be one of ur first customers to get the ka-t one with the t2 flange
umsports
08-31-2006, 08:21 AM
Yep, that manifold is T2 flanged manifold....
We are also going to have a T3/T4 with external wastegate flange arriving next month to test fit....
Lots of new 240sx turbo kit parts coming this fall, and I'm excited to say the least...
Also, look for Underground to release a new line of turbo kits around Christmas that will be the most affordable kits on the market for the KA-T 240SX. The kits will feature Garrett non-ball bearing turbos..(ball-bearing option extra)....will feature high quality name brand parts at amazing prices, but I'm not going to release too much info as I dont have all the details worked out.
umsports
08-31-2006, 08:27 AM
Here are the specs on the SR Manifold (taken by one of our customers doing the test fit on his car)....KA-T Specs coming later today...
runner diameter= 1.6 in
flange(nut surface)-wastegate flange(gasket surface)= 5 1/4 in
flanges are 1/2 in thick
total protrustion from head= 5 3/4 in
I forgot to mention a wastgate block off plate is included so you can run one of those flapper style gates that bolts to the exhaust side of the turbo.
420_240
08-31-2006, 08:43 AM
Now get megan racing to start making rb manifolds
SimpleS14
08-31-2006, 08:52 AM
Now I know the pictures for the KA manifold are T2....will the T3/T4 have a simliar design?
ispypsi
08-31-2006, 09:39 AM
they both look copyish to the SSAC, but i can see the head flanges are beefier thickness and some of th welds look better.
i'd like to see placement with a typical t3/t4 style on the KA-T manifold. given it allows decent clearance to keep the stock PS reservoir, run a nicely angled oil line, and have a downpipe that doesnt melt everything, i might pick one up.
umsports
08-31-2006, 10:15 AM
Now I know the pictures for the KA manifold are T2....will the T3/T4 have a simliar design?
It has the same design as the SR20DET T3/T4 manifold shown above...looks identical...
those pics mean nothing untill i see some master cylinder clearance....
umsports
08-31-2006, 10:22 AM
Now get megan racing to start making rb manifolds
I dont see that happening, as there's just not enough market out there for that product...
Plus, the RB25DET Manifold is a T3 based manifold...There are loads of options of aftermarket turbos that will bolt to that manifold, so I dont see a MR manifold as being that profitable...
The Rb26 manifold would be an even smaller market...
BigBump
08-31-2006, 10:25 AM
Will they also have an accompanying downpipe, or at least outlet extensions to fit existing downpipes?
I'm also interested in seeing BMC clearance.
umsports
08-31-2006, 11:53 AM
Will they also have an accompanying downpipe, or at least outlet extensions to fit existing downpipes?
I'm also interested in seeing BMC clearance.
The SR downpipe and Turbo Outlet is already available, and I have a few KA guys who are using the same downpipe and outlet, but modifying the downpipes for their setups....
The MR KA-T downpipe is being worked on currently....but dont look for it anytime in the near future...
It is probably 3-4 months away...
BigBump
08-31-2006, 02:06 PM
Will they also have an accompanying downpipe for the top mount SR manifold, or at least outlet extensions to fit existing downpipes?
I'm also interested in seeing BMC clearance.
sorry about not clarifying that....
Slidin240Wayz
08-31-2006, 02:34 PM
What about turbo outlets to work with the top mount kit and the current MR DP?
BigBump
08-31-2006, 03:02 PM
What about turbo outlets to work with the top mount kit and the current MR DP?
That's what I'm thinking...
a 3" V band outlet with an adaptor for a 4 bolt, or an adaptor for a 5 bolt included that would bolt to current DPs.
Or just an extended DP with the above V band/adaptor setup.
eerrrrr
08-31-2006, 05:32 PM
wow that manifold (bottom mount) looks exactly like the manifold i got off of ebay. maybe i got a megan one??? i doubt it though.
umsports
09-01-2006, 06:01 AM
wow that manifold (bottom mount) looks exactly like the manifold i got off of ebay. maybe i got a megan one??? i doubt it though.
We have the first Megan releases, so what you got off Ebay is not a Megan piece.
It may be a similiar design, but not the same..
Megan has their own factory where they make their own pieces....
eerrrrr
09-01-2006, 10:43 AM
yeah i figured that...too bad it aint one cuz id be really happy
thundering02
09-01-2006, 12:46 PM
Will it fit for those of us with only 1 cam?
TipStylez
09-01-2006, 01:32 PM
^i asked that.
so, e +de? or just de only.. =[
johngriff
09-01-2006, 02:22 PM
does megan package all their stuff with THOSE gaskets?:bite:
cfinch
09-01-2006, 02:42 PM
blah blah blah megan racing or ssautocrap it all comes from the same sweatshop in china... I've personally never seen one of those bottom mount manifold crap but they suck... The way the first runner goes into the collector is awful. I guess if you have a ka I can understand running one for a budget turbo set up... but I don't understand why ppl with sr's run them over the stock manifold other thant to look pretty. That topmount one looks like every other top mount one I've seen and they are crack city... Yet again the design of the runners is terrible... I'd give that manifold a day before it cracks...
hellion240sx
09-01-2006, 03:26 PM
i think you should takes these peoples views of the mani and show it to megan...
Slidin240Wayz
09-01-2006, 04:01 PM
OMG who cares how its made, its made cheap to be sold cheap. Quality is obviously reduced compared to other manifolds but if you want higher quality your going to have to pay 6-10 x's more. Now if you are on a tight budget and are ready to buy another one of these or step up after, if it does in fact crack, then this is for you.
Personally, I had the SR one from some other company, tuningpros, which looks exactly like the MR one and it has held up over a year with alot of use; DD and track visits.
The man is just trying to help out a specfic market.
Carlos
ps
high quality = alot of money
lower quality = a lot less money
Dousan_PG
09-01-2006, 05:46 PM
c'mon cfinch
poor people want to look baller too!
TipStylez
09-01-2006, 08:54 PM
Come on, its all in the blang blow. All show, AND go..untill that shit cracks.
But that dosnt look like the design that ssauto came out with. Better quality and inlets imo.
umsports
09-04-2006, 09:39 PM
Here's the test fit photos....T3/T4 SR20DET Manifold installed in customers 95 240SX...
http://www.undergroundmotorsports.com/images/katmanifold7.jpg
http://www.undergroundmotorsports.com/images/katmanifold8.jpg
http://www.undergroundmotorsports.com/images/katmanifold9.jpg
http://www.undergroundmotorsports.com/images/katmanifold10.jpg
KA-T Test Fit Photos coming this week...
TipStylez
09-04-2006, 09:52 PM
When well we get pics of the KA versions?
And thats some good ass clearance on the SR.
Slidin240Wayz
09-05-2006, 06:12 AM
I hope it not too close to the head.
umsports
09-05-2006, 03:16 PM
When well we get pics of the KA versions?
And thats some good ass clearance on the SR.
Hopefully tonight, if I get a free minute....
I am going to have photos of the T3/T4 SR Manifold with 57 trim .63 A/R mounted later this week. (customers car)
umsports
09-05-2006, 03:17 PM
I hope it not too close to the head.
nope, not even a concern and I'll have the photos to prove it this week to post...
McRussellPants
09-05-2006, 04:23 PM
OMG, I was gonna bitch about you calling it a "T3/T4" flange... but it actually is, hahahahahahahaha. thats some hooptie crap. What kind of retard would put enough money into an SR to need a T4 flanged Turbine and then run an Ebay manifold hahahahahah.
T4 Flange and Tial 38mm, what an awsome state of tune, thanks megan. hahahahahahah
breakindrifts
09-05-2006, 04:29 PM
^i asked that.
so, e +de? or just de only.. =[
DE and E manifolds aren't exchangeable, and I doub't Megan would bother making a single-cam manifold. Besides theres places to get quality SOHC mani's for cheap.
Nuisance Crew
09-05-2006, 05:01 PM
DE and E manifolds aren't exchangeable, and I doub't Megan would bother making a single-cam manifold. Besides theres places to get quality SOHC mani's for cheap.
Can you or anyone give some good examples you've com across? looking to do a SOHC Turbo in the future... thanks!
JD
undesiredshoe
09-05-2006, 08:50 PM
ive seen like two sohc manifolds that were cheap on ebay....i dont know if ssac or some other company made them but they were 200 something with a downpipe. It looked like one of those ssac ones too. Thats the cheapest ive found.
Other than that, Id say go with the jgs log manifold...solid as chuck norris' biceps. Or go with one of jordan gladman's side mount mani's. Im not sure if hes making any right now though
initial_drifter
09-07-2006, 11:38 PM
I've been wanting to go KA-T for a while and I was wondering which turbo position would be better, Top Mount or Bottom Mount?
Slidin240Wayz
09-08-2006, 08:41 AM
matters on the size and preference
yusuke1923
09-08-2006, 08:51 AM
http://www.undergroundmotorsports.com/images/katmanifold5.jpg
Uhh... :duh: I guess you get what you pay for... :fart:
Edgar
09-08-2006, 09:06 AM
These remind me of my friends company www.emotorusa.com
They all look the same because the companies usually go w/ the same designs as they're cheap to do. The manufacturers overseas already have these jigged up. The differences lie in materials and fine changes that the individual companies decide on and tell the manufacturers to execute.
They all look the same but they are certainly not the same exact piece.
RedlineRacer
09-08-2006, 03:59 PM
I don't know why you guys are knocking it and saying its cheap. I remember someone posting some pics of a JIC tubular manifold just like this that cracked a few days after he installed it. Its just the nature of tubular manifolds. And why spend $800 for some jdm manifold that could crack just as easy as this?
umsports
09-08-2006, 04:09 PM
They all look the same because the companies usually go w/ the same designs as they're cheap to do. The manufacturers overseas already have these jigged up. The differences lie in materials and fine changes that the individual companies decide on and tell the manufacturers to execute.
They all look the same but they are certainly not the same exact piece.
Hey Man....couldn't have worded it better myself....
And to the guy compaining about the machining, those runners look great...I see NOTHING to get upset about...
Edgar
09-08-2006, 04:19 PM
All the China stuff is getting better as day goes by.
steve shadows
09-08-2006, 05:16 PM
blah blah blah megan racing or ssautocrap it all comes from the same sweatshop in china... I've personally never seen one of those bottom mount manifold crap but they suck... The way the first runner goes into the collector is awful. I guess if you have a ka I can understand running one for a budget turbo set up... but I don't understand why ppl with sr's run them over the stock manifold other thant to look pretty. That topmount one looks like every other top mount one I've seen and they are crack city... Yet again the design of the runners is terrible... I'd give that manifold a day before it cracks...
pretty much on the money , cant add much more.
If i cant trust my life to it at 100mph+ then why waste time de-investing in my existence on earth.
umsports
09-20-2006, 06:50 PM
pretty much on the money , cant add much more.
If i cant trust my life to it at 100mph+ then why waste time de-investing in my existence on earth.
I've got SR20DET customers with Megan's Bottom Mount Turbo Manifold's, that have been on their cars for 4-5 years, and still no problems...
I think your jab is unnecessary, as you would need to back it up with a proof...
I've got over 30 members on this board running the traditional style Megan manfiold and have never heard one complaint...never had one return..
McRussellPants
09-20-2006, 08:36 PM
I think your jab is unnecessary, as you would need to back it up with a proof..
The proof is in the pic you posted man.
The welds on that mani are like 1hr of welding class short of having pinholes in them.
I know that the 600$ for an Expreme or the 1000$ for the full race is money for a whole lot of crappy carbon fiber bumpers down the drain. but go get one of those and then try and sling a Megan as being hot shit with a straight face.
BTW, for those that care, Tomei Expreme manifolds are classy. I was hella impressed with the RB mani I saw the other day. like 100% perfect smooth insides on the runners/flanges, all the pipes are one peice and all the welds are stack of dimes everywhere. IMO not bad for 600$
slideways2004
09-20-2006, 10:08 PM
The proof is in the pic you posted man.
The welds on that mani are like 1hr of welding class short of having pinholes in them.
I know that the 600$ for an Expreme or the 1000$ for the full race is money for a whole lot of crappy carbon fiber bumpers down the drain. but go get one of those and then try and sling a Megan as being hot shit with a straight face.
BTW, for those that care, Tomei Expreme manifolds are classy. I was hella impressed with the RB mani I saw the other day. like 100% perfect smooth insides on the runners/flanges, all the pipes are one peice and all the welds are stack of dimes everywhere. IMO not bad for 600$
+2 million. that will prolly be my next manifold
sepulchral
09-21-2006, 12:01 AM
should i slot my megan manifold flange????
pretty much on the money , cant add much more.
If i cant trust my life to it at 100mph+ then why waste time de-investing in my existence on earth.
Why, for any reason, would a catastrophic failure in your turbo manifold result in your death?
umsports
09-21-2006, 06:20 AM
The proof is in the pic you posted man.
The welds on that mani are like 1hr of welding class short of having pinholes in them.
I know that the 600$ for an Expreme or the 1000$ for the full race is money for a whole lot of crappy carbon fiber bumpers down the drain. but go get one of those and then try and sling a Megan as being hot shit with a straight face.
BTW, for those that care, Tomei Expreme manifolds are classy. I was hella impressed with the RB mani I saw the other day. like 100% perfect smooth insides on the runners/flanges, all the pipes are one peice and all the welds are stack of dimes everywhere. IMO not bad for 600$
I found the welds to be quite nice, and have had zero problems with the manifold on my daily driver car..
Sure you can spent 6-10x the price, but why? I'm telling you I've NEVER had one return for product defect, and that tells me all I need to know about the quality of the product.
I can't justify dropping $600-$1000, when the end result is the same. I'll take my $400-$800 extra dollars I saved by going with the Megan manifold and buy myself some suspension or other power mod parts...:werd:
sepulchral
09-21-2006, 09:02 AM
did u have to slot your manifold too?
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