View Full Version : is this a good deal (tires)
well im about to order my 17x8 and went to my local discount tires to see how much the tire would cost the guy told me to get 225/45r17 91w General Exclaim uhp at $119 each. Does anyone nowthe qualitiy of these tires? The guy also qouted me for full intalation lugnuts and locks alinment, mounting, and road hazard for $627.
my car is also lowered on sportlines with gr2 so do i need spacers and will the tire rub?
Brian
08-30-2006, 01:40 PM
For that price per tire, you can get tires that we have actually heard of.
Federal
Yokohama
Dunlop
Falken
A Spec Products
08-30-2006, 01:45 PM
wow
talk about getting BOWED up
your tire shop is pretty wack
just buy tires online
discounttiredirect.com has good prices free shipping
cgguy
08-30-2006, 02:03 PM
General Exclaim UHP aren't bad tires. Unlike a lot of the newer cheap-o tires (like Federal) that are made in China General is an American manufacturer owned by Continental Tire.
They actually did pretty well in a lot of tire reviews I've read. Thing is that's not a great price them. I'd sooner go with some Falken 451's, Azenis or Yoko AVS es100's for that money. Like A Spec said, buy online and save big bucks. It's the best way to go imo.
All that other stuff sounds a bit odd. Why is he charging you for lugnuts? and why is he assuming you want wheel locks? I also doubt he'll be doing an alignment....more likely balancing. Sounds like a bonehead to me.
redsuns3838
08-30-2006, 02:09 PM
go with a better brand, and what is your wheel offset? thats what will decide if tires rub/need spacers.
VROOOM
08-30-2006, 02:42 PM
i just bought some yokohama es100's in that same size for a couple bucks cheaper a tire.
i got mine from discount tire.... but for the best deals go to tirerack.com (i needed my tires that day and discount tire is just down the street from me)
sw20>>s14
08-30-2006, 03:36 PM
you said you went to a DT right? well, go to DT online, order tires with free shipping, and bring it to a DT to mount and balance...you get huge discounts on mounting and balancing if you buy the tires through them online (same deal with tirerack, but theyre prices tend to suck more)...just try and do everything you can yourself...you dont have a tire machine or hunter balancer so leave that for the shop...buying the tires, lugnuts, wheel locks, etc. you can do on your own...youll save a lot more...as stated before, for that money per, there are many better choices out there...
A Spec Products
08-30-2006, 04:16 PM
They actually did pretty well in a lot of tire reviews I've read. Thing is that's not a great price them. I'd sooner go with some Falken 451's, Azenis or Yoko AVS es100's for that money.
451s are discontinued
452s replaced it, but they are decently more expensive than the 451s
yokohama es100s arent very good imo (maybe for daily drive its acceptable)
i still stand behind federal 595s
thats my jam right there
McRussellPants
08-30-2006, 04:22 PM
General Exclaims... lol, ALLL SEAZZZZONNNZZZ
FK452s are a real nice tire, edge racing should have them for like 110$ or something.
VROOOM
08-30-2006, 04:26 PM
the generals you want are $78 a piece at tire rack. also tire rack rates them as an ultra high performance summer tire.....not all season
chmercer
08-30-2006, 04:37 PM
theyre M+S tires. lol. read the sidewall
general = dumpster city
Hailtothesilvia
08-30-2006, 04:39 PM
Dunlop Direzza, best drift tires ever
i had a pair for 8 months in the front, never chunk, 6 events, and gripped consistently even w/ wear
I'm currently running ST115, been having them for 3 months now and i am very happy w/ them
Anyone has any input on Kumho SPT????? my roommate's owning a pair in the front right now said that he had no understeering issue even w/ mid 3rd gear entry turn. They're pretty cheap too, less than $100 bucks shipped from Discountires for 225/45/17
VROOOM
08-30-2006, 04:45 PM
theyre M+S tires. lol. read the sidewall
general = dumpster city
thats just what Tire Rack says. ive never even seen the tires in person.
Jefferson
08-30-2006, 05:05 PM
Wouldn't he be better off getting a 215-45-17 or a 235-40-17 instead of the 225-45-17 just so he won't be so off in the overall diameter. PLus I think the 225-45 has too tall of a sidewall at least IMO
OptionZero
08-30-2006, 05:05 PM
225/45/17 Falken Azenis RT-615
$117 each IIRC
ok so i guess ill be buying some tires online also my wheel specs are sportmax 006 17x8 offset +35mm. i think that the sportmax rim require special lugnut or in gerneral tuner lug nuts. i dont really need a drift tire cause i daily drive this car so i want something that will be barable to drive on the street.
A Spec Products
08-30-2006, 05:21 PM
eh yeah the tire debate could go on forever
tires are like jimmy hats
each person has their favorite
some fit some people some dont
some perform different under different conditions
if you use one and dont like it, you just get another and try it
so that being said, youll never know till you try
just use a tire that fits in your budget and driving style
Brian
08-30-2006, 05:25 PM
so Logan.... I don't like ANY tires, right?
oh I amuse myself.
ok so here are some tires i found at distcounttiredirect.com all 225/45-17
Falken :
GR Beta FK-451 225/45ZR-17 91Y B
http://www.discounttiredirect.com/direct/findTireDetail.do?cf=false&sw=false&cs=225&pc=28653&rd=17&ar=45
Ziex ZE-512 225/45ZR-17 94W REIN
http://www.discounttiredirect.com/direct/findTireDetail.do?cf=false&sw=false&cs=225&pc=28751&rd=17&ar=45
KUMO TIRES
Ecsta SPT 225/45R-17 94Y XL B
http://www.discounttiredirect.com/direct/findTireDetail.do?cf=false&sw=false&cs=225&pc=33519&rd=17&ar=45
NITO TIRES
NT NeoGen ZR 225/45ZR-17 94W BLK
http://www.discounttiredirect.com/direct/findTireDetail.do?cf=false&sw=false&cs=225&pc=40218&rd=17&ar=45
Macadoshus
08-30-2006, 05:43 PM
Might still be able to get the Falken 451's, I managed to get a pair a few days ago from my distributor.
McRussellPants
08-30-2006, 05:45 PM
discount tire blows. Edge has all their tire selection for 15$ cheaper.
edge racing for the cheaper stuff.
Tire Rack for the ritzy Advan/Bridgestone stuff.
edge has cheaper tires but no free shipping DT is still cheaper.
A Spec Products
08-30-2006, 06:14 PM
so Logan.... I don't like ANY tires, right?
oh I amuse myself.
ding ding ding! no pun intended
oh brian i can always count on you for the laughs
no rubbage no rubbahs drift team!
also, to stay on topic
i think i saw some 225/45/17 on special on Tirerack, so you might want to check their specials as well
goodyear GS-D3...oh on second glance, its for 215/45/17s, but eh if i had 17x8 id rather run 215s but thats just me
http://www.tirerack.com/tires/goodyear/goodyear.jsp
CKAMC
08-30-2006, 06:33 PM
Hmm for that 215 I would like a 40 wall more but it depends on what the specs of the tire say as each brand is different from the other. I run 215/45/17 continentials on a 17x7.5 and its a good stretch already... I myself wont put them on 8's but thats your call.
OptionZero
08-30-2006, 06:45 PM
vulcantire as an alternative
if you're not gonna drive the car hard at all, just get the cheapest tires possible, shoot
A Spec Products
08-30-2006, 06:49 PM
Hmm for that 215 I would like a 40 wall more but it depends on what the specs of the tire say as each brand is different from the other. I run 215/45/17 continentials on a 17x7.5 and its a good stretch already... I myself wont put them on 8's but thats your call.
215/45/17 on a 7.5 is NOT a stretch bro
215/45/17s on 17x9s all day urrday
and now that i run the chubbier federal 595s the stretch isnt as apparent
if you're not gonna drive the car hard at all, just get the cheapest tires possible, shoot.
True dat in the hoo dat.
For my beater I run $29 tires...195/60/14 babyyyy
crazyikimasho
08-30-2006, 06:53 PM
as Rogan-san said...
http://i54.photobucket.com/albums/g102/crazyikimasho3/ITD3-WillowSprings014.jpg
17x9 on Federal SS595 215/45 17
A Spec Products
08-30-2006, 06:56 PM
as Rogan-san said...
17x9 on Federal SS595 215/45 17
its a cali thang babehhhhh
throw up the W!
crazyikimasho
08-30-2006, 06:59 PM
For my beater I run $29 tires...195/60/14 babyyyy
how wide are those wheels and do they stretch any? Im thinking maybe a 6" wheel and you should run a 225 so that there isnt too much stretch :D
trsilvias13
08-30-2006, 07:29 PM
es100 are very heavy tires just a fact for you. i compare two tires that are 205 45 16 and es100 weighs more than dunlop sp9000, But es100 have harder sidewalls.
i think im going to go for the falken ziexs or the nito tire. do you think that ill need spacers for the front to clear the strut?
chmercer
08-30-2006, 08:31 PM
lol
falken ziex is m+s tire
UGHYHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
blackflag_Rms13
08-30-2006, 09:05 PM
Ziex... ...... ...... ...... yeah......
I guess for a daily it'll be fine, but I'd just go for the cheapest shit possible, no need to waste money on mediocre tires...
Nizzan4u2nv
08-30-2006, 09:10 PM
i think im going to go for the falken ziexs or the nito tire. do you think that ill need spacers for the front to clear the strut?
Depends on wheel offset. You might as well get 215/45/17 kuhmo 711 from tire rack. Dirt cheap. 205/40/17 is even cheaper.
wntrcoatblu240
08-31-2006, 02:30 AM
i had a friend that ran kumho MX tires for grip... he said they're pretty good... quiet, and grip hard, even with wear... what's everyone's take? sorry for thread jackin'
sw20>>s14
08-31-2006, 03:07 AM
ive heard nothing but good things about the kumho MXs from various autocrossers and road racers alike...very high grip tires...
OptionZero
08-31-2006, 12:13 PM
MX's are a good tire: less ultimate grip than an RT-615 which is its main competitor in its price range, but better heat characteristics, and some different size options as well. According to some FA threads i remember, they actually get better with a little wear and heat. You'll like 'em if you wanna go fast and haven't stepped up to the $200/tire realm
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