New VQ engine

[NoOneIsPerfect]

Nissan Motors in Japan just introduced the new generation VQ and it will be called "VQHR". It'll first be in Skyline sedan this year Nov. Displacements are 2500cc & 3500cc.

It'll produce more peak HP and torque while getting approximately 10% better gas milage.

I can't wait till I go back to Japan and driving it. Hopefully it's little more smooth than VQ35 from z33.

It was on yahoo japan
http://headlines.yahoo.co.jp/hl?a=20060823-00000004-maip-bus_all

I'm sure that not many of you can read Japanese but at least you can see the picture^^

[S14DB]

$86 Million on an engine factory...Crazy.

http://ca.c.yimg.jp/news/20060823100326/img.news.yahoo.co.jp/images/20060823/maip/20060823-00000004-maip-bus_all-view-000.jpg

[SimpleS14]

English:
http://press.nissan-global.com/EN/PHOTOGRAPHS/technology.html#VQ35HR
http://www.nissan-global.com/EN/NEWS/2006/_STORY/060822-01-e.html

mmmmmm Dual throttle bodies......

http://response.jp/issue/2006/0822/article85090_1.images/120155.jpg

http://response.jp/issue/2006/0822/article85090_1.images/120157.jpg

http://response.jp/issue/2006/0822/article85090_1.images/120156.jpg

http://www.350z-tech.com/w/images/0/0b/VQ35HR_002.JPG

[exitspeed]

Hmmm, I hope they have a cut away at the NAIAS so I can get a good look.

[Neejay]

mmmm...Nice.

[P4rD0nM3]

When's NAIAS btw? Damn. Bye v8. Wonder what that engine sounds :\

[drift freaq]

looks like they are prepping it for Twin Turbo

[axiomatik]

$86 Million on an engine factory...Crazy.


$86 million ain't much for a factory

[NoOneIsPerfect]

$86mil for a factory isn't too much but factory only for a VQ? That's actually a lot of investment.

And why do you want V8? I mean... I think Japanese turbocharging technology is #1 in the world. Even mercedez use IHI turbine on their AMG tuned motors.

Leave the big displacement sports car to GM's and Ford's.:D

[HKsilvia]

Japanese is invading the large displacement technology niiiiiiice!

[Ian]

I'd liek to see a 5.6L twin turbo personally...

[P4rD0nM3]

NoOneIsPerfect, actually that's what I meant...v12 still ftw.

[timtiminy]

wonder what the 2.5L will come in? wonder if it will be a RWD....maybe a new S chassis car? speculations....wouldnt that be nice

[McRussellPants]

$86mil for a factory isn't too much but factory only for a VQ? That's actually a lot of investment.

Have you seen the list of cars the VQ gets play in?

86mil is chump change compared to the money the VQ is bringing in for Nissan

The dual throttle bodys definately look like prep for a turbo setup.

[NoOneIsPerfect]

McRussellPants> Yes I do know the list of cars w/ VQ motor. Though from what I read, this factory is ONLY for building motor. Not a full assembly factory. Now I might be wrong, since the info on cyberspace can be wrong. I still think it's a lot to invest. Though I guess not a lot when board member of Nissan Motors are getting over 2mil on average for their annual paycheck. As of Honda... ah.... I think it was little over 200K on average.

Timtiminy> There might be a chance of compact RWD car coming out from Nissan sometime w/in next few years. I remember reading it somewhere... just don't remember where.

[SimpleS14]

looks like they are prepping it for Twin Turbo

i was thinking that too....maybe a simliar setup in the next GTR.

[BigVinnie]

Holy SHIT!!!!! Variable compression ratio!!!!!!!!!! The crank shaft can shift its position!!!!!!!! Wickedly insane..... What next....
http://www.nissan-global.com/EN/TECHNOLOGY/INTRODUCTION/DETAILS/VCR/index.html

Dual throttle bodies is better for transferring swirl, which would increase power in the lower range by increasing vacuum to fewer cylinders, it's much more refined. FYI the president of Nissan/Renault has no plans on turbo charging, super charging is where its at....
Nissan/renault is building there own factories for engine building which means there will be alot of savings down the line for more affordable vehicles. In nissans history they lost alot of money sub contracting engines to manufacturers such as Holden.

[WILDACEX187]

yay. i wonder if they will make a rwd car below the 350z with that vq25hr

[CKAMC]

I bet once nissan/renault have a fair amount of factories to make their own engine's they will likely increase overall production globaly and hopefully we will see a wider arrange of cars released such as we all hope... a new silvia :-)

[axiomatik]

Modern factories are heavily automated, and automation costs big bucks. An automotive final assembly plant costs hundreds of millions of dollars, I think Hyundai's new one is about $600 million.

Saab displayed a prototype variable compression engine a few years back, I think it somehow pivoted the cylinder head relative to the block.
Ninja Google edit: Saab's VCR (http://www.saabnet.com/tsn/press/000318.html)

[NoOneIsPerfect]

I bet once nissan/renault have a fair amount of factories to make their own engine's they will likely increase overall production globaly and hopefully we will see a wider arrange of cars released such as we all hope... a new silvia :-)
:werd:

I wish they come out with something w/ good handling and reasonable price since for many people, cars like 240 are weekend/fun car.

[atom]

I really want to know what the 2.5 liter is gonna come in. I doubt they're gonna put it in the skyline or Z, maybe a new RWD compact sedan? That would be tits.

[drift freaq]

Holy SHIT!!!!! Variable compression ratio!!!!!!!!!! The crank shaft can shift its position!!!!!!!! Wickedly insane..... What next....
http://www.nissan-global.com/EN/TECHNOLOGY/INTRODUCTION/DETAILS/VCR/index.html

Dual throttle bodies is better for transferring swirl, which would increase power in the lower range by increasing vacuum to fewer cylinders, it's much more refined. FYI the president of Nissan/Renault has no plans on turbo charging, super charging is where its at....
Nissan/renault is building there own factories for engine building which means there will be alot of savings down the line for more affordable vehicles. In nissans history they lost alot of money sub contracting engines to manufacturers such as Holden.

Well actually in most of their cars you are correct. Though the GTR is slated to be Twin Turbo machine according to leaks to the press directly from Nissan having hinted that.
I do think to get the numbers they want out of the GTR i.e. target range of 400-500HP they would have to Twin Turbo the VQ and yes the GTR will be a V6 not an 8 Nissan has already stated that as well.

[CKAMC]

I really want to know what the 2.5 liter is gonna come in. I doubt they're gonna put it in the skyline or Z, maybe a new RWD compact sedan? That would be tits.


Yeah we are just going to have to wait and see what nissan will do for affordable performance since I havent heard anything lately regarding the new sentra and what they will do with their SE-R line on that car.

[S14DB]

VQ25DE is used in JP for many years. Don't expect it here any time soon.

[BigVinnie]

Well I just recieved information from sources that state that the VQ35HR will not be turbo charged. The HR stands for HIGH REVOLUTION, mostly the name change was to represnt it as the 4th generation VQ. These engines slated for 2007 and 2008 will be put into the majority of Infinity G class models and what will be called the redline 350z.
The Compression ratio of these engines will be 10.6:1, unlike the standard VQ35DE's which yield a compression of 10.0:1, and 10.3:1, and in naturally aspirated new redline feature of up to 7500 RPM, unlike the DE's which carry a redline of up to 6700RPM.
These new engines are to compete against Toyota/Lexus 3.5 litre engines, and will have a higher HP rating than the current DE's of about 315BHP. If youread up on the wikipedia the dual intakes is just designed to lessen air restriction which helps in reducing the NOx levels.
I was told that wikipedia just updated all the facts, so heres the link.
http://www.350z-tech.com/zwiki/VQ35HR
http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c166/BigVinnie/HRDE.jpg

[PoorMans180SX]

:werd:

I wish they come out with something w/ good handling and reasonable price since for many people, cars like 240 are weekend/fun car.

^^Seriously! You know how huge the market could be? There are like zero medium size rwd coupes available. I say make it a fastback! Make it light, and make it multi-link rear (duh). I would save my cash soooooo freakin long to buy one. I don't care what engine it had really. Maybe they could stick in a rear wheel drive VE.

On the new VQ, it's going in the new G35 as well, rated at 320bhp here.

[CKAMC]

Now imagine... aftermarket headers,exhaust,intake piping, intake manifold.... now these cars will definitely be a great N/A. Wonder what great fleet they will do next with the DETT :)

[Dutchmalmiss]

just for the record, what cars is the current vq35 being used in either standard or as an option? i'm curious to know.

[Ian]

altima, maxima, quest, G35, 350z, Murano, FX35, probably something else too

[BigVinnie]

altima, maxima, quest, G35, 350z, Murano, FX35, probably something else too

Don't forget that the VQ platform also exists for there 4 cylinders (QR) and 8 cylinders (VK). I don't think that the V8's will become HR's any time soon, production would be too expensive. But what I have been reading the QR25HR will boast over 220BHP, and lower emission than the QR25de's that are only 180BHP. There will also be a QR20HR that will have more torque compared to Honda's K20a platform of engines.....
Seems that Nissan/Renault is starting to follow the Honda trend for low emission high HP engines(well with the exception of torque of course).

EDIT: made a typo error..... VQ and QR are the same design features the V in VQ stands for V shaped block.

[WILDACEX187]

will we get any of those 4 cylinder vq's. i thought the engine in the sentra's was called a QR25?

[CKAMC]

Yeah Sentra's have currently the Qr18 and Qr25.

Next gen will feature the MR20 and/or MR18

Still wonder what they will do for the SER line since they still need a compact affordable sports car

[Ghettokracker71]

Yeah Sentra's have currently the Qr18 and Qr25.

Next gen will feature the MR20 and/or MR18

Still wonder what they will do for the SER line since they still need a compact affordable sports car


The 1.8 is a QR series? Hmm I didn't know that:duh:

NPM has an article about the VQ35HR

http://nissanperformancemag.com/september06/vq35hr/

[wootwoot]

When are they going to do direct injection?! This is pissing me off. Also not stoked on most Japanese companies being against variable displacement motors. AR!!!! They started all of the crazy valve control, why not use it to work for nicer mileage?

[BigVinnie]

will we get any of those 4 cylinder vq's. i thought the engine in the sentra's was called a QR25?

Sorry man made a typo, was up really late. The platform is still going to be QR. The V in VQ stands for V shaped block. Same technology for the engines using roughly the same compression, and DIS.

[SimpleS14]

http://www.nissanperformancemag.com/september06/vq35hr/

[S14DB]

http://www.nissanperformancemag.com/september06/vq35hr/
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[SimpleS14]

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I made that post for a reason......

[wootwoot]

and it wasssssss?

[SimpleS14]

and it wasssssss?

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