So I do the roller paint job on my car....

[SimpleS14]

As most of you have seen...this paint job can yield great results if you have the patience and pay attention to detail.

Welp...my car has been five shades of green for quite awhile and its finally getting to me. After seeing Maeda and fliprayzin240sx I decide to give it a go. My only problem was that I was tight on time...so I kinda rushed things..such as taping the seals instead of removing them.

I'm still not completely done, as I'm waiting for my JDM rear bumper to come in, paint the mirrors and give a final wetsand and polish.

I will say that doing this paint job is damn tedious...I started on Sunday with sanding the car and finished the last coat on Friday. I put on six coats and literally waited almost 24 hours between each coat.


NOW...onto pics (what little I took):

Here is the clearcoat sanded off with 400 grit sandpaper. You can see most of the materials I used for this project:
http://www.ss14.net/pics/writeup/rollerpj/sanddown.jpg

Here is the first coat.....a classic WTF moment...
http://www.ss14.net/pics/writeup/rollerpj/firstcoat.jpg

Every coat had to be layed down thin...so the first and second coat look horrid.

I don't have a picture of the second coat, but here is a pic of the third coat..you can see the color start to show...
http://www.ss14.net/pics/writeup/rollerpj/thirdcoat.jpg

Wetsand the car and layed down the fourth coat. By this time HOA finally jumped on my ass...so I had to move the car to a friend's house to finish it up. Here is the fourth coat...
http://www.ss14.net/pics/writeup/rollerpj/fourthcoat.jpg

I missed out on taking a pic of the fifth coat since I was in a rush to get this thing done. Speaking of which...I finished the sixth coat on Friday. As I said before it still needs some work...mainly the rear bumper, mirrors, and wetsand (1000-2000 grit), then polish. This paint takes atleast three months to fully cure...but once it does it will be solid (think of a cast iron tub enamel). I plan on painting the mirrors black and using the enamel spray paint this time around.

Here is the sixth coat:
http://www.ss14.net/pics/writeup/rollerpj/sixthcoat.jpg

Once everything is complete I will host a writeup on my website. I recommend this for someone that has time and patience on their side. Also suggest this for someone that has a really bad paint job and doesn't care about winning points at a show.

[skylinekin]

wow!! looks great man, Im really interested in this, about how much did you spend total on this?

[mr.lonelys12]

that is some straight up crazy shit? what kind of paint did you use?

[SimpleS14]

wow!! looks great man, Im really interested in this, about how much did you spend total on this?


I spent about $68

that is some straight up crazy shit? what kind of paint did you use?

The paint I used for professional grade Rustoleum enamel. I thinned it out with mineral sprits and rolled it onto the car using a dense foam 4" roller. Sounds ghetto...and yea it actually might be...but for the price I'm not complaining.

[94cc0rd]

woww ... do the pictures make the paint job look better or is it really that good in person?

[g6civcx]

If you're thinking about trying this, the best tip is to get a sanding block. Then wetsand as much as possible between coats like he did. It will make the paint really shine.

[apexiSR202nr]

damn good job! did you also do the door jams? I wouldn't mind paintin my car like this in the near future along with my new aero kit. How does the final finish look on the car? shinny and glossy as OEM paint? from the final pics of your car it looks like its a professional paint job!

[SimpleS14]

woww ... do the pictures make the paint job look better or is it really that good in person?


The picture hides the orange peel that will go away after a wetsand and buff. Besides the seals having some paint left on them and the mirrors (as you can see in the last pic)...it does look really good in person. My neighbors (those that supported me) were wowed by the final result and said it looked good.

[silversr]

holy shit! It looks like it's professionally done.Looks way better than the paint job on my accord

[SimpleS14]

If you're thinking about trying this, the best tip is to get a sanding block. Then wetsand as much as possible between coats like he did. It will make the paint really shine.

Yea...I recommend a sanding block...I skipped using one and man did it make sanding a PITA. I wetsand between every two coats with 800 grit...this helps to get right of the runs and have the next coat of paint adhere better.

damn good job! did you also do the door jams? I wouldn't mind paintin my car like this in the near future along with my new aero kit. How does the final finish look on the car? shinny and glossy as OEM paint? from the final pics of your car it looks like its a professional paint job!

I got lazy and skipped to door jambs...I have some runs on them...but I will sand that off. I actually want to keep the door jambs green so I can reflect on what the car use to look like. :D

The paint is glossy and has some good reflection going on...but I wouldn't say shiny (or a mirror finish) since I have yet to buff it. Once I do that...I will post a pic in this thread or the other one (depending on how soon I do it).

[Silverbullet]

Again, best roller job i've seen George. :thumbs up:


Questions:

-What did you do as far as keeping dust from sticking onto the paint when you were letting it dry over night?

-In the last pic, it looks very good even though im sure there is orange peal. Im assuming you got that shine from wetsanding, so was there any sanding marks with the wetsand that requires buffing afterwards? I have to check it out in person some day =D

[mr_240sx]

for a roll job it looks good from far..... but hows the 5 feet rule?

[Nismo240SX]

how far is woodbridge from 24354?

[JVD]

Looks pretty good. I tried it on my spare trunk. Spent hella long on it too. It didn't even look close to an actual paint job. I power polished it too. I'd rather not spend half of my life wet sanding and just pay someone to paint the car. I can't imagine someone trying to do black. Orange peel city!

[Ninjabread]

Wow looks good from what I can see. Might have to consider this in the future, it's almost cheaper that flat-blacking the car!

-Matt

[LA_phantom_240]

WOWZERS white kouki w/ black rims = sex. nice job mate! im haveing a hella hard time trying to find the rustoleum that ISNT in spray cans... Id like to do this before swapping my blacktop in. Dupicolor "professional automotive grade" shit is soft as fuck and inst worth a shit... besides spray cans run out too fast. Good job. I like using 1000 grit when wetsanding between coats. I wonder if they make that stuff in clear?

[TurK]

its a 20/20 job....looks good from 20 feet at 20 mph....lol j/m looking good man...props

[drifter808]

how does this technique hold up on urethane bumpers? will it chip real easily? if it hold up good i might do this pretty soon.

[jdm538]

wow looks nice im gonna have to try this on a trunk lid.

[Nismo240SX]

i'm amazed by this... i really am. it seems like someone else on here can work wonders on cheap, but yet better than maaco looking paintjobs. why can't you use metallic again? i would do this if i could use metallic. could you not mix metallic flake when thinning the paint with the mineral spirits? great job... buff that thing and give us a pic, please!!!

[FRpilot]

omg ftw. this looks on par with maeda's roller paint. it looks good on computer pixels but you guys say it looks like shit in real life from like 10 feet.

[DrtyRat]

WOWZERS white kouki w/ black rims = sex. nice job mate! im haveing a hella hard time trying to find the rustoleum that ISNT in spray cans... Id like to do this before swapping my blacktop in. Dupicolor "professional automotive grade" shit is soft as fuck and inst worth a shit... besides spray cans run out too fast. Good job. I like using 1000 grit when wetsanding between coats. I wonder if they make that stuff in clear?
Home Depot or Lowes should carry this stuff in quarts and gallons

[luisgonz]

Wow:eek2: Just Plain wow. Great job:D

[kognition]

So you actually just painted your car by hand and made all that mess in that nice clean parking lot just to save about $150? With a paint roller? I mean it looks okay in the picture, but so does a Monet. Until you get up close. There is a reason they have body shops. So they can control things like the mess you made. I hate to say this to you, but while you might have saved a couple bucks,
it is really irresponsible to do something like that. Of course your HOA is going to be pissed. They pay good money for that asphalt parking lot. :bash:
Just think you should be more responsible while you do things to your car.

[Ricks15]

Does that paint allready have clear coat mixed in? Or do you have to mix it in seperately and then put reducer??? It dont look that bad at all.

[WilloW]

Hot damn! That is amazing, props to you for making it looks so good. With the condition of my paint right now, I think I will try this. Yay for no HOA. Congrats.

[chmercer]

lol home owners association on your ass? what did they say?

[JVD]

Does that paint allready have clear coat mixed in? Or do you have to mix it in seperately and then put reducer??? It dont look that bad at all.
It's rust paint. Like from home depot. You can buy it by the gallon. You thin it with mineral spirits. Clear coat? LOL! I'll let you guys do it on your own cars to see how you really like it. Trust me. It won't look that good in real life. No matter how much you wet sand and polish. You'd be better off to put more hours in at work and pay for a maaco job.

[Wei240]

i dunno, i rolled paint my crappy foam s13 spoiler (faded) and zenki lip (since it's been thrashed alot), and it came out pretty nice, has a nice gloss to it, like it had clear coat on (i think they also sell clear coat too even though i didn't use any), i've only put 2 coats on the spoiler and 8 coats or so on the lip, pretty happy with the results, i'll post pics later whenever i fixed my damn maf problem...

i don't think this is meant to compare and compete to a stage 3 show car paint job, it's a really great way to paint beat up cars for cheap...

[DrtyRat]

You'd be better off to put more hours in at work and pay for a maaco job.
While i've seen some decent results from this, it seems like the time and effort aren't worth it. Maybe if your single, and have a place to do this and you have another car to drive then its worth it. Other than that I think most ppl would be better off having someone else do it for them(myself included)

[SimpleS14]

Again, best roller job i've seen George. :thumbs up:


Questions:

-What did you do as far as keeping dust from sticking onto the paint when you were letting it dry over night?

-In the last pic, it looks very good even though im sure there is orange peal. Im assuming you got that shine from wetsanding, so was there any sanding marks with the wetsand that requires buffing afterwards? I have to check it out in person some day =D


I really couldn't keep dust and bugs off the car...I swear bugs love getting stuck on the paint. My biggest worry was a bird taking a crap on my car...glad that didn't happen. :bite: For dust what I did was use a tack cloth and for bugs...well I had to sand them down. After wetsanding I do get marks, but that is where polishing compound and buffing comes into play to fill those hairline marks.

how far is woodbridge from 24354?

305 miles

how does this technique hold up on urethane bumpers? will it chip real easily? if it hold up good i might do this pretty soon.

Well...the paint is really soft since it cures very slow. I drove my car like this for two days and no chips..but if I took a knife and cut away I would remove the paint. It does hold well to urethane, but if your existing paint has cracks...then it will show. Fortunately mine are not at very visble areas.

why can't you use metallic again? i would do this if i could use metallic. could you not mix metallic flake when thinning the paint with the mineral spirits? great job... buff that thing and give us a pic, please!!!

Because it will look very uneven using a roller....now people have used a Wagner HVLP electric gun that yield good results. I couldn't do this because of my confined area.

So you actually just painted your car by hand and made all that mess in that nice clean parking lot just to save about $150? With a paint roller? I mean it looks okay in the picture, but so does a Monet. Until you get up close. There is a reason they have body shops. So they can control things like the mess you made. I hate to say this to you, but while you might have saved a couple bucks,
it is really irresponsible to do something like that. Of course your HOA is going to be pissed. They pay good money for that asphalt parking lot. :bash:
Just think you should be more responsible while you do things to your car.

I saved for than $150, I had my car painted by three different shops and none of them can match my OEM paint...on top of that the paint from the front end and bumper was chipping. As for the mess I made, I have good intentions to clean up with a pressure washer. That was my idea right from the start, and the Mazdaspeed 6 parked next to me got none of my paint on it...and that car is black.

lol home owners association on your ass? what did they say?

I'm abusing a vistor space, running enviromental risk to residents and pets, remove car from parking space or we will tow it....something along those lines.

[Anto]

Wow! That's grrrreat!

A few questions:

What color paint did you use? Semi-gloss / Canvas / Flat / Gloss?

And does that color look straight WHITE or kinda pearl / canvas?

[justinhustle]

good work my friend, you know i had a few doubts, but it came out very wll done

:)

[TurK]

i thought the whole concept behind your name was keeping things simple? that dont look too "simple" to me


:)

[P4rD0nM3]

What about the interior paint? Still green?

[crazybb]

i am just wondering what was the mixing rate of the paint/

[wurm]

hmmm I always thought the rustolem didnt cure like the tramclad does

[Edgar]

its looking good

[LA_phantom_240]

hmmm I always thought the rustolem didnt cure like the tramclad does
Um i dont know if youre aware, but Rustoleum = Tremclad. Tremclad is what its sold under in canada. Just a lil FYI

[wurm]

Um i dont know if youre aware, but Rustoleum = Tremclad. Tremclad is what its sold under in canada. Just a lil FYI
yes but the chemical makeup of the two paints are different thats the reason you cant buy tremclad here

[LA_phantom_240]

oh really? Well, i guess i stand corrected. You wouldnt happen to know HOW they are different or how much difference there is in how it hardens and holds up?

[SimpleS14]

Wow! That's grrrreat!

A few questions:

What color paint did you use? Semi-gloss / Canvas / Flat / Gloss?

And does that color look straight WHITE or kinda pearl / canvas?

Gloss white and it looks straight white...its the brighest white I've ever seen on a car. Think of a brand new tub or toilet...its that white.

i thought the whole concept behind your name was keeping things simple? that dont look too "simple" to me


:)

haha...the process wasn't simple...but I think the overall look of the car is still simple.

hmmm I always thought the rustolem didnt cure like the tramclad does

It doesn't...the properties of the two are slightly different where the Rustoleum will dry faster, but take longer to fully cure. This what I gathered from the mopar thread. But this is the stuff they sell here and its not too bad at all.

What about the interior paint? Still green?

As mention before...door jambs are still green. I have some runs of white that I will sand off. If I was to do the door jambs, I will take a foam brush...but I really don't want to worry about that.

[wurm]

Do you know how long it takes to fully cure or does it ever cure fully?

[180sExy]

wow!!!hat's off to you man!!!!your car looks great!!!!!!makes me feel like a noob for paying 1500 for my paint job!

[ThatGuy]

Do you know how long it takes to fully cure or does it ever cure fully?
Read the WHOLE thread, he already stated the cure time.

[91ka]

Here is the first coat.....a classic WTF moment... lol

until i saw the last pic and said, WOW. had no idea you could paint with rollers and have results like that :rawk:

[P4rD0nM3]

Man it looks hella good for a $68, even if it hasn't been buffed yet.







Your HOA is on the soft side. I can't even change my freaking oil in my driveway because 'it makes my neighbors look like they can't afford to have it change by a 'mechanic', freaking rich asswipes. Somtimes I hate those stupid rules you have to follow. So what if I want a lime green house. Hehehe.

[SimpleS14]

for a roll job it looks good from far..... but hows the 5 feet rule?


Well....right now up close its rough because I haven't done the final wetsand and buff.

For anyone that is curious...here is how it looks:

http://www.ss14.net/pics/writeup/rollerpj/nobuff.jpg

P4rD0nM3 - I had no clue my place had a HOA until now...but yea...depending on the area, depends on how strict they can be. The one you have is rediculous if you can't do an oil change on your own property.

[Nismo240SX]

wow... maybe i'm not interested, but i still wanna see finished pics

[Slidin240Wayz]

that pics is alot better. please post a pic after you wetsand it.

Carlos

[IKnowAllOfNothing]

I agree, it looks really nice.
Can you post up some bigger high quality pictures when you are finished wetsanding and buffing

[hellion240sx]

man mad props to you!! it loooks good for $68 and with a friggin roller. lol. yea i would like to see more pics as well.

[lagvoid21]

wow great job!

[Aoshi112]

looks pretty damn good. Props to you! I heard about this method from a friend and thought it was a joke but man, i must say, i'm impressed!

[s13poop]

props on the paint job looks clean man :)

+1 for you

[ESone3]

I did this but in black.... and boy does it suck! You see fat lady butt alll over it (orange peel, cellulite... whatever). I think it works well with white.... and if you paint the whole car, but don't try it in black. You will see it all. I don't mind it cause I plan on painting the whole car anyway, but if you care what your car looks like, i don't recommend it.... again in black=Fail!

[surge s14]

but how long will it last?

[crazybb]

i sure wetsanding and buffing would have took care of that

[ManoNegra]

That last picture looks amazing. I love to see one of this great looking roll jobs upclose. Seems to me also that the most susccessful jobs are with white too.
Kudos.

[SimpleS14]

Well....the most sucessful jobs for painting n00bs like myself have been with white lol

But on the mopar thread there are other shades...even black that yield great results...

http://swoolmer.bigblog.com.au/data/1/8197/image/RIMG00253292120060628221542.JPG

It's really in the attention to detail you give it.

How long does it last? well this car was painted seven years ago and still looks fresh....

http://i32.photobucket.com/albums/d13/69martin/new%20paint%20pics/DSC03355.jpg

[exitspeed]

Holy crap that looks good.

Props for doing such a good job.

Looks like I'm painting my car this winter. Does it have to be above a certain temp to do this? I'm assuming so.

[trybal]

car pictures online are like pictures or girls on myspace. Picture can make her look way sexy but when you see her in person its like wtf mate.... Or the other way around. But your car does look good finished, i love the color white that the picture shows. Its sex

[JVD]

car pictures online are like pictures or girls on myspace. Picture can make her look way sexy but when you see her in person its like wtf mate.... Or the other way around. But your car does look good finished, i love the color white that the picture shows. Its sex
Exactly. The paint on my S14 was swirled to shit(hand washing a black car:duh:) but I still have pics where the paint looks amazing just because of the lighting. Not trying to knock the hella good job, but it really doesn't look that good in real life. I've done it. After I did it I came into my garage and there was a nice reflection coming off of the spare trunk I tried it on... then I turned on the lights:ugh:

[exitspeed]

but it really doesn't look that good in real life. I've done it. After I did it I came into my garage and there was a nice reflection coming off of the spare trunk I tried it on... then I turned on the lights:ugh:

It's still gotta be better then flat black...

[punxva]

I think it looks really good considering the price, and if you prep it properly, and wetsand after every 3 coats or so and progressivly move to a higher grit, then you should be able to get a very smooth and orange peel free finish. You also have to take into account that weather plays a pretty big role in the formation of orange peel. You also have to remember that black is one of the hardest colors to hide imperfections with, but as i stated before with the proper prep and sanding, you should be able to replicate that picture that was posted on the mopar thread, if not a better result if you are patient and take your time. I'd expect to work on it for at least a few days. I plan on doing this to my roof in black, since ive got a peeling clear coat and some free time during my winter break from college. I'll prove to the doubters that black can be done well, just with a little lovin :)

[nonissan]

looks very nice. will this be a detriment if you decide to have it repainted in the future? will it be harder/worse to paint over?....

[Ian]

I could imagine that this stuff can't possibly cure too hard...

You'd probably want to remove it before putting real paint down

[atom]

car pictures online are like pictures or girls on myspace. Picture can make her look way sexy but when you see her in person its like wtf mate.... Or the other way around. But your car does look good finished, i love the color white that the picture shows. Its sex

LOL yeah this is true. We did the roller job on a friend's civic in the same appliance white....I mean Championship White.;)

It does not look that great up close. Personally I just think it's so bland. Since you can't use any additives, appliance white and straight black are pretty much the only colors that are turn out ok. But for the price I guess you can't complain too much.

[fromxtor]

^^ you do know that most cars in the 60's and earlier used this type of paint, and you can spray clear over it. :)

[atom]

Yes I am aware of that. And you know what? All those classic cars look boring as hell paint-wise compared to a modern car with a metallic/pearl paint job.

[SimpleS14]

Holy crap that looks good.

Props for doing such a good job.

Looks like I'm painting my car this winter. Does it have to be above a certain temp to do this? I'm assuming so.

I honestly don't know the lowest temperature you can work with, but I know that the colder it is the more mineral spirits you have to add to the mixture.

car pictures online are like pictures or girls on myspace. Picture can make her look way sexy but when you see her in person its like wtf mate.... Or the other way around. But your car does look good finished, i love the color white that the picture shows. Its sex

hahaha that is very true, the picture in my sig hides the bad parts of my car when it was green. As I said before....this is by no means car show quality and its good enough for me. Also for the price and overall look I'm definately not complaining. :D


looks very nice. will this be a detriment if you decide to have it repainted in the future? will it be harder/worse to paint over?....

You can still repaint with automotive paint if you wish to do so.


I should stress that the final result is only as good as the effort you put into it. I will admit some areas I got lazy and rushed, mainly at the fifth and sixth coat when I had to move my car to a friends house. I had no time to wetsand the whole car, but instead the runs. Also if you surface as any dents, or pits they will show if you don't fill them. Where I have serious paint chip from my old paint...it shows with the new one because I didn't take the time to fill it. Also temperature does have a big effect on overall progress.....more like humidity. I was working in 80+ degree weather at times with humidity almost at 80%...not the ideal setting, but being strapped on time I had no choice...so that resulted in some orange peel as well.

Finally got my bumper in, so I will take pics of my progress on that piece and use it for a "write-up".

kognition - Who neg repped you? Cause I know for damn sure it wasn't me. I don't get angry or upset at any comments flying my way...you can see by my responses in ANY thread I post in.

[kognition]

My sinceres appollogies to you SimpleS14. It wasnt you.
Thank's LB.Motoring :smash: Thanks Mr240sx :smash: You are both morons abusing the rep system. Grow the hell up. :duh:


kognition - Who neg repped you? Cause I know for damn sure it wasn't me. I don't get angry or upset at any comments flying my way...you can see by my responses in ANY thread I post in.

[slideways2004]

i have some questions. do you wetsand the 1st and 2nd coat also? is every coat the same thickness? do people do more or less than 6 coats

[CA4All]

im doing the same thin n my S13 and i hate it. It's taking forever because I pretty spent atleast an hour on wet sanding the part that I painted after 2 coats. 6 coats...that means atleast 3hrs of wetsanding. dear lord...im so tired from it

[crazybb]

tell us how it turns out ca4all.....

[SimpleS14]

i have some questions. do you wetsand the 1st and 2nd coat also? is every coat the same thickness? do people do more or less than 6 coats


You wetsand every two coats and yes each coat is thinned out. People do more than six, I can't see anyone doing less.

[Nachtmensch]

dang! thats clean

i might have to try this on my crx!

[ronmcdon]

looks awesome! congrats!

[SimpleS14]

Just want to let you guys know that I finally got my rear JDM bumper (used) and started to paint it last week. I'm done, but I haven't found the time to install it onto my car. Since I was only painting the rear bumper this time around...I actually took my time and wetsand between each two coats and let each coat sit overnight (almost 24 hours between each coat). Far less orange peel and runs were apparent...even my neighbors thought I sprayed the bumper instead of rolled it. Also I had time to take pics between each coat and some other detailed pictures. I'm going to use these pictures for my writeup when I find the time to write it up...since I'm going back to school and want to refresh the website.

Here is how the bumper looked when I first got it....
http://www.ss14.net/pics/writeup/rollerpj/rb.jpg

You have to roll on the paint very thin...so thin its like your rolling on milk. You get runs and micro bubbles...but that is easily fixed by catching them with the roller. Here is a pic of the runs and bubbles before I used my roller, just to give you an idea of what I was working with....
http://www.ss14.net/pics/writeup/rollerpj/rb_runs.jpg

Here is the final and sixth coat....very clean IMO....
http://www.ss14.net/pics/writeup/rollerpj/rb_sixth.jpg

I still need to wetsand and buff the entire car.....BUT...I managed to get the front end out of the way. Its hard to take a pic given its white, but I must say I like the results. Smooth to the touch and quite glossy...and I used 1000 grit, medium rubbing compound and polishing compound.

Here is a pic of the hood: http://www.ss14.net/pics/writeup/rollerpj/buff.jpg

Here is a pic of the untouched roof: http://www.ss14.net/pics/writeup/rollerpj/nobuff_1.jpg

Notice the reflection of the houses on the hood and the hazy reflection on the roof? I should also note that the car is about 50 ft away from those houses.

More to come with time on my side....but for now I'm happy with the results , the amount of money I saved, and the experience I gained.

[fromxtor]

100% badass ^^ :)

[undesiredshoe]

On the hood, is that bird poo or something with the paint??

[ThatGuy]

^Looks like a taped off windshield squirter to me.

[SimpleS14]

ThatGuy is correct...I removed the windshield washer fluid nozzles and taped from underneath.

[fromxtor]

Too bad you cant do metallic like this, I would have you come down to NC and roll my hatch. :)

[SimpleS14]

Too bad you cant do metallic like this, I would have you come down to NC and roll my hatch. :)

Well I was reading on the Mopar threads that there is certain paints that have been used that consist of metallics. However those were sprayed on with a Wagner gun. I honestly forgot what paints were used....have to scour those Mopar threads to find out.

[SimpleS14]

So I finally wetsand with 1000 grit and buff the car with rubbing compound. Orange peel is apparent in most of the areas due to my rushing and skipping some wetsanding. I can see that patience and attention to detail does help...as my rear bumper looks very good compared to the rest of the car.

This pic has some light glare from the car next to me...you can also notice the reflection....
http://www.ss14.net/pics/writeup/rollerpj/firstbuff.jpg

[koukimonster139]

damn good job! I thought about rollin my s14, but I just dont have the time for all the wetsanding. Im currently transforming my garage into a temporary paint booth and ill be resprayin the silver moss except with met.black roof and trunk and hood. SO hopefully ill only have to wetsand it once when im done.
anyway looks hella good for $68.

[ballinnmiami240sx]

Good job....I'll have to drive up that way and check it out.

[chmercer]

damn you went from 1k grit straight to compound? brutal.

[180sExy]

all i can say is "wow!!!" i have never seen a how job done that well i wish i could see it in person!

[SimpleS14]

damn you went from 1k grit straight to compound? brutal.


I wanted to use some 2000 grit, but I got lazy haha.

[burukan]

was wondering the ratio of mineral spirits to paint you used? did you dilute the gallon, or just a smaller amount per use ?

[ms!3]

looks hott, roller ftw, i did the same thing

[ThatGuy]

Look at the skin of an orange, then go look at a poorly painted or un-wet-sanded paint job. All your questions will dissappear. :bow:

[Eric240sx1990]

very interesting...

looks nice man! props on that!

What were your outside temps when doing this?

I plan on doing a spray job on my car now that I have a compressor :), just need a hvlp gun.

[SimpleS14]

was wondering the ratio of mineral spirits to paint you used? did you dilute the gallon, or just a smaller amount per use ?

Really don't have a ratio to follow, it depends on the weather and quanity your mixing. But if you need some type of guidance, I started off with 1 part paint, 2 parts mineral spirit. I mixed in a seperate container.

very interesting...

looks nice man! props on that!

What were your outside temps when doing this?

70-80 degrees with humidity around 60%

[sepulchral]

how long does paint like this last and i looked couldnt find the cure time? simples14 u ever on aim i tried to im you

[mikesim]

On the hood, is that bird poo or something with the paint??

it's the washer nozzle opening.

being in the autobody business teaches you many things. you CAN make a rolled on paint job look like someone sprayed it with a SATA HVLP 2000 if you take the time to wetsand the paint. orange peel on stock nissans nowadays are terrible.

good job man. if you keep at it with the wetsanding and remove all the orange peel, you'll have a show quality look to it. orange peel is super hard to see in pics, but the hood looks great. that final polish will give it some gloss, although not as much as having some clear on it. single stage enamels are designed to have a glossy finish.

[ixfxi]

it's the washer nozzle opening.

being in the autobody business teaches you many things. you CAN make a rolled on paint job look like someone sprayed it with a SATA HVLP 2000 if you take the time to wetsand the paint. orange peel on stock nissans nowadays are terrible.

good job man. if you keep at it with the wetsanding and remove all the orange peel, you'll have a show quality look to it. orange peel is super hard to see in pics, but the hood looks great. that final polish will give it some gloss, although not as much as having some clear on it. single stage enamels are designed to have a glossy finish.

Show quality? NO.

Acceptable? Depends what the person's standards are.

Would I ever do it? NOPE.

Respect for all the time and effort, but there's just better ways to do things.

[ManoNegra]

Respect for all the time and effort, but there's just better ways to do things.

Right you are. But the key word here is "cheap".

[Ninjabread]

Mano FTW...

fckinmsglenght

[ms!3]

what did you do about the swirl marks, what compound?

[ThatGuy]

It has NOTHING to do with color, and everything to do with TEXTURE. Are you sure you can figure this out by yourself?

:keke:

[ms!3]

^^^lol, i feel stupid now:duh: i just figured out what it was. lol i just saw the word orange and thought that orange peel was orange on the car. feel free to flame.:hammer:

[S13SilviaGirl]

well i could kind of figure that out but how do you get orange peel from white paint?


seriously, earl schiebe it...$300. Done.

[DrtyRat]

well i could kind of figure that out but how do you get orange peel from white paint?
Obviously not. What ThatGuy is saying is the bumps in the paint that occur from bad paint jobs is similar to what the texture of an orange peel looks like.
understanding a basic comparison>You
edit...........
OK now you post that while I decided to respond...so I take it back :)

[ms!3]

lol, well mabey since theres been like 5 new posts on the same thread is like 5 mins you missed my response, but i did say feel free to flame. but i get it now. just not thinking right i guess.

['90RPS13]

Very clean. I would be dow for it but I have way to many dents and dings. Maybe get them pulled out and then take a shot? *a

[fromxtor]

I say do it alec, we're practicing on a 240 hood when I get home :)

[sepulchral]

imo i think that looks amazingly good and i may consider doing it, i never keep my cars longer than a year anyways, that looks great

[Indolent]

looks good man, you make me want to do my whole car, it made me decide to try it out on my fenders, but with a spray can instead (thought it'd be faster/better)
http://pic13.picturetrail.com/VOL465/2194199/12665845/189664779.jpg
^ my fender(s) I did the spray can job, yes it literally looks that glossy, just too bad i don't have a buffer so it could've been better, and there is absolutely no orange peel, oh and yes it's BLACK too haha, but it didn't really take me long, only letting it dry overnight took me the longest, wet sanding wasn't bad (time-wise)

[fliprayzin240sx]

I WILL NEVER EVER EVER EVER EVER EVER EVER (X INFINITY) DO THAT SHIET AGAIN!!!

Im one of those impatient bastards plus my elbows still hurt to this day from all the in between coats wet sanding...

Yes spray paint is easier but the catch is...6-8 months down the road...that black paint aint gonna be black no more. Imagine it an offset of gray and brown at the same time. Trust me I know, my car was rattlecanned before the roll on, now it got a somewhat legit paint job for $300.

From this...
http://www.pxracing.com/modules/coppermine/albums/userpics/10017/normal_Pxr2%20158.jpg

to this...(rattle canned semi-gloss)

http://www.pxracing.com/modules/coppermine/albums/userpics/10017/normal_Pxr3%20030.jpg

to this...(roll-on with the 2-tone funk...i got lazy masking the windows)
http://www.pxracing.com/modules/coppermine/albums/userpics/10017/normal_Picture%20019.jpg

to the final paint when i try to sell it again...
http://myspace-314.vo.llnwd.net/01021/41/30/1021330314_l.jpg

[corey240]

thes paint jobs arent bad at all. i wish they had a close color to my green. im thinking aobut doing this to my zenki s14. would you guys that have done this happen to know what the best shade of that paint they have to be close to oem as possible?and i mean the red not the green bumper...

http://i65.photobucket.com/albums/h225/corey240_photos/DCFC0680.jpg

[Indolent]

www.paintscratch.com
expensive but i hear good things about it

[gotta240]

Simple. I gotta hand it to you. You're the man. GREAT looking paint job at a fraction of the price.

You're one of the only badass DIY guys on here who ISN'T a total dick!

I've appriciated your online help from times of doing my kouki conversion to picking an mp3 player. thanks!

[luckyrb13]

Iam doing my s14 as well. But iam doing the body work my self and taking it to quality shop where they know how to spray. so far its been a week and iam almost ready to take it to the body shop. Ive spent about 200 hundred on prep materials and iam lookingto spend about 500 on paint and about 300 hundred to get it sprayed. it should come out real nice iam taking pics the whole time so i can post it when its all done. Still got to hand it to simple s14 came out pretty nice for so cheap.

[bardabe]

Alright I'm gonna do this. defently my paint is so fucked its nto even cool. so what color should I do Black or White? its an S13 Coupe with Silvia Front. All OEM Panels. I have a Big ass Aitrcompressor (about 6ft tall) dunno how many gallons btu its huge. and a gravity fed Airgun. what do you guys think???? any Opinions or advice. besides taking my sweet ass time.

[Silverbullet]

I know this is S14 SImple's thread and i dont want to steal his thunder but i wanted to share with everyone the potential of patience.

BEFORE:
http://photos-237.facebook.com/ip006/v44/139/25/68118519/n68118519_30931237_3036.jpg
http://photos-651.ak.facebook.com/ip006/v42/139/25/68118519/n68118519_30755651_2962.jpg





---->
2 layers on the hood, 1 layer on the fenders. All done at night. The fenders were done on the 2nd night where i applied the 2nd layer on the hood. I mixed the paint too thin that day and there is a slight amount of run on my fenders but no biggy. I am not complaining, its better than flatblack.




AFTER:
http://photos-226.ak.facebook.com/ip006/v44/139/25/68118519/n68118519_30933226_5278.jpg
http://photos-329.ak.facebook.com/ip006/v44/139/25/68118519/n68118519_30933329_2139.jpg
:thumbup:

it looks pretty good in person too, well the panels that had more coats on them atleast. The most coats, the better. People who see my car in the parking lot at work everyday has commented on my paint job and asked if it was a Maaco job (looks good but not show perfect.)

[SimpleS14]

Simple. I gotta hand it to you. You're the man. GREAT looking paint job at a fraction of the price.

You're one of the only badass DIY guys on here who ISN'T a total dick!

I've appriciated your online help from times of doing my kouki conversion to picking an mp3 player. thanks!

haha thanks man


Ive spent about 200 hundred on prep materials

Excuse my curiousity...but what materials did you get?


Silverbullet - Progress is looking good...and I should remind the people that you used a Wagner gun vs. a roller.

[SimpleS14]

OK

I had to bump this thread to let everyone know what I finished making a write-up. It's actually more like a journal IMO.

http://www.ss14.net/writeup_rollerpj.html

Let me know what you guys think...esspecially if there are any typos haha

[Silverbullet]

STFU

messege length

[thejapino]

nice writeup man! car looks good. You got your moneys worth i think. most people talk shit and say 'its not worth it' but thats cuz some people are used to throwing down a couple G's on a paint job. not me. maaco is my friend

[aNskY]

People who see my car in the parking lot at work everyday has commented on my paint job and asked if it was a Maaco job (looks good but not show perfect.)



i dont think that's a compliment :rofl:

[Silverbullet]

,|,, -_-



its not bad for unsanded/unbuffed. I was just tired of the primer.

[ms!3]

so how does the clear coat work. i was thinking a bout repainting my car white but spraying it flatwhite with cans then roll clear coat on cuz clear coat canssuck, lol.