How is the 240sx scene now compared to ~2 years ago?

[gogeeta13]

Hey guys


I have been out of the loop for almost 2 years since I sold my last 240sx.

I had to get a more practical vehicle and stop my modding/spending habits.

But I am looking to pick up another S13 chassis for a winter build up.

Where is the scene right now? Are 240s worth more or less than they used to be?

Are parts up in price or down in price? Are dumb drift kiddies still joining this board in swarms?

Is KA turbo the new thing?


.....

Just sort of looking for some thoughts on whats new lately from people who have been into 240s as long as I have (7+ years)

[ManoNegra]

How about spending some time lurking to get your answer? The state of the 'scene' depends on who you ask. Lots of noobs asking questions like yours and lots of grumpy older members pining for the good old days.

[aznpoopy]

you get a little more attention
feels like there's alot more options for certain parts
more people buy them but the value is about the same

[S14DB]

Wait, my car is popular?

[exitspeed]

It's the same as it was 2 years ago if you ask me...Of course my 240's been the same for that long so not much has changed for me.

I think the more newbs are just lazier then they were before.

[rainier]

ive been outta the scene for a while now too but on this board and many other boards and still seems the same. only reason for those noobs to ask stupid question is cuz thier lazy. i dont see too many noob bashing anymore though like when you ask something stupid someone comes up with a random ass picture that says something ridiculous.

but as for the price of the 240sx, i think its still steady, i bought my s14 for 4 in the end of 2002 and sold it 2004 for about the same price but with plenty of mods. now, i think i could of sold it for WAYYY more on like autotrader or so. just gotta find the right stupid person to pay alot for it.

[TheSquidd]

i dont see too many noob bashing anymore though like when you ask something stupid someone comes up with a random ass picture that says something ridiculous.


http://www.squidd.org/stupid/WTFhorse_001.jpg


heheheheheh.

wtf is scene?

[WilloW]

I think the more newbs are just lazier then they were before.
It turned into one of those "I'm too lazy to read the whole 10+ pages to find what I'm looking for, so I'm going to post dumb shit anyway." I've noticed a whole lot of people buying 240s now compare to 2 years ago.

[exitspeed]

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v491/exitspeed/panda.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v491/exitspeed/lastweekmakoto.jpg


Hahaha, these kinda pictures ARE funny...

[ESone3]

This is how i see this "scene".

The 240 scene is a group of wanna be elitest. Alot of young people that have learned what us 'old guys' have figured out, (before they can drive) feel that because they hold this l33t information about 240's, they are the only ones that should know about it. Parts for these cars are cheap, and being that these cars are 10+ years old, their are alot of secrets and tips on saving money and making them faster. No body wants to share this information for the simple fact that it won't make them unique. So instead helping a fellow comrad out, another way of say.... 'i don't want to help you' is say SEARCH!

[kandyflip445]

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v491/exitspeed/lastweekmakoto.jpg

^^It's Makoto! What ever happened to him?

[exitspeed]

^^It's Makoto! What ever happened to him?

I'm pretty sure he was perma-banned...

[FRpilot]

esone3 ^^^

somewhat agree with that...

the 240sx community is different from 2 years ago which is different from 4 yrs ago which is different from.. imo, the people who own 240s are getting younger and younger in the 16-20 age range. a lot of people i know who are older have since gone on to sell their 240s and move on to something else. i guess thats why forums have seem more boring and full of repetative questions lately, since all the older 240 owners moved on and the remaining ones dont really care anymore. you'll see a lot of stupid and repetitive questions on many forums now. for example, i check FA once in a while when im bored and want to learn something new about turbos and about 4 months ago i noticed that some of the new threads on FA were really stupid. seems like there are more stupid threads than actual tech threads. (btw, i used to get bored or overwhelmed by FA because it was a bunch of engineers and PH.d majors discussing how to make more power, volume, air flow, blah blah blah. i would be able to pick some of it up and learn but most of the time it was too much for my brain to handle and i would get bored. now it seems FA is full of repetitive questions or simple things like how to pull off a guage cluster) i heard its because one of FA's new moderators is from nico and he's letting things slide. i dont see new post by asad, enthalphy, or those other smart people on FA as often which i dont see as being a good thing because if they leave knowledge or advancemet will be lost in the community. you can always search for old threads but there wont be discussion of improving things.

[Prelude Guy]

I've had my 240 for just over 2 years.....and I have yet to be able to get it running properly. :rant: The engine is about to go in soon, though.:p

Anyway, I have noticed more ricers buying 240s. I get more replies of, "Wooooow, so are you going to swap in an SR20..............yO?"

I see a few more 240s on the road than I used to see when I originally became interested in 240s. Many are hideous looking though.

Expect theft to rise on these cars too. :(

[gogeeta13]

Wow...lots of opinions on this.

I appreciate all the thoughts guys. It looks like the scene/community is more or less degrading as time goes on which is unfortunate.

I guess these cars are far too cheap and accessable to have the kind of knowledgeable and respectful following of other sports cars.

[ManoNegra]

i heard its because one of FA's new moderators is from nico and he's letting things slide. i dont see new post by asad, enthalphy, or those other smart people on FA as often

I hadn't been there in ages and for some weird reason I check today only to find out the Russ just quit FA (http://forums2.freshalloy.com/showthread.php?t=153899). Place has gone downhill apparently.

[trsilvias13]

The car is worth less than before, but people ask for more than what they were going for 2 years ago (in cali), but you can still find a deal here and there. SR swap are way way way more common now compare to two years ago. Parts (oem and aftermarket) are readily easily to get get.

Ka-T has many many development within the last two years. Search ka-t.org.

Also numberous tread keeps poping up with questions that can be avoided LIKE THIS ONE just by searching.

[TheSquidd]

In all seriousness...

I had a 240sx 5 years ago, and the scene seems exactly the same to me. The prices are the same, the people are the same, I still get the same ricer responses, still get the same attention from cops.

I think the only difference is the rise of drifting as a professional sport. Other than that, I have had nearly the same experience owning the car 5 years ago, and today.

[VROOOM]

the biggest difference in the scene is the availability of parts, i remember having to go Options(anyone remember the Options store in burbank?) to find just the basic parts for my car. i think all they sold was an intake and some springs and shocks. now you can go anywhere to find parts. i think the popularity of 240's can only do good, just think of all the R&D money companies will throw at the 240 scene.

[kandyflip445]

I'm in the exact same damn boat at TheSquidd.

[kickeachverse]

Id say it's the same as 2 years ago just more people modding 240's that's all. I do remember 5 yrs ago when noone really saw the appreciation in an sr motor. Haha. Well except, of course, Nissan heads.

[TheSquidd]

the biggest difference in the scene is the availability of parts, i remember having to go Options(anyone remember the Options store in burbank?) to find just the basic parts for my car. i think all they sold was an intake and some springs and shocks. now you can go anywhere to find parts. i think the popularity of 240's can only do good, just think of all the R&D money companies will throw at the 240 scene.

Yeah you know who you gotta thank for that, ASPEC! :hyper:

[Flybert]

I personally think it's way different than 3 years ago. More cops cracking down on SR swaps here in socal. Daily driving a 240sx with an exhaust system is asking to be pulled over. More people notice your car and will steal it. There are no more big meets any more because everyone has found their niche of friends and there are so many track events here in socal that there is no reason to have a meet. A lot of people now have daily drivers because it's too much of a pain in the ass to drive your race car on the street. 240sx people are even cheaper than before. There are so many more ghetto looking 240sx's driving around. Three years ago, most 240sx enthusiasts could legally drink alcohol. I could go on and on.

[Buffalo Daughter]

This is how i see this "scene".

The 240 scene is a group of wanna be elitest. Alot of young people that have learned what us 'old guys' have figured out, (before they can drive) feel that because they hold this l33t information about 240's, they are the only ones that should know about it. Parts for these cars are cheap, and being that these cars are 10+ years old, their are alot of secrets and tips on saving money and making them faster. No body wants to share this information for the simple fact that it won't make them unique. So instead helping a fellow comrad out, another way of say.... 'i don't want to help you' is say SEARCH!


yeah ton's of new kids trying to be elite to the fullest. Why? all the young ass kids whoring up every forum and trying to be badasses, every chance they get. Shit's a trip seeing things change in 6 years from nothing to the new chick at school with tits and ass for days. The thought of just loving the car and what every way you choose to drive your car; be it drift, drag, circuit, autox or highway has been extinct. It's like its almost fucken heinous just to love it for what its worth. Just something to be cool about. So much to say about so many of these fucks but it does nothing good because day in and day out they will keep whoring and try to something just as long as its trendy and cool.

[TheSquidd]

So many track events? You mean the one drift comp we get all the way the hell out at Willow Springs?

PS. thx for the neg rep for my joke ass post!

http://www.squidd.org/stupid/picard.jpg

[aznpoopy]

yeah ton's of new kids trying to be elite to the fullest. Why? all the young ass kids whoring up every forum and trying to be badasses, every chance they get.

lol...

just today i parked next to a clean body s13 coupe /w fn's. on our way out i saw the owner... was a young skinny kid. i was hoping for a friendly conversation, but all i got was a condescending, "is that a stock motor?" i said, "sure." he then drove off. that was a little disappointing.

[Team Rootbeer]

i wish i could even say there was "scene" where i live

if someone even knows what an s14, or much less a modified one is, im surprised

i took a girl for a ride the other day, and she said my car made the "fast and the furious" noise.......it was hot

[Buffalo Daughter]

hahaha i think i misjudged it myself. It's not a scene, it's more of an attraction then a motorsport hobby. Get the cool ride to attract attention. How else are all these kids going to get STREET CRED. i hear at costco they have street cred on sale. You know you just gotta buy in bulk these days to save money. :coold:

[Flybert]

So many track events? You mean the one drift comp we get all the way the hell out at Willow Springs?

There's been like two events there every month for a while. I guess if a person doesn't track their car then it's not worth the drive but if you do it is. Maybe things have changed more for me in the last 3 years compared to the general population. It's all relative I guess but when was the last big meet? Shine st. back in 2004? Nowadays, I don't think many of the older members of the community would even show up. I know I wouldn't.

[Buffalo Daughter]

So many track events? You mean the one drift comp we get all the way the hell out at Willow Springs?

PS. thx for the neg rep for my joke ass post!

http://www.squidd.org/stupid/picard.jpg

i'm sorry guys this was just to fucking funny!!!!! i was laughing soooo hard when i saw this. Shit that is jokes.

[Buffalo Daughter]

So many track events? You mean the one drift comp we get all the way the hell out at Willow Springs?

PS. thx for the neg rep for my joke ass post!

http://www.squidd.org/stupid/picard.jpg

i'm sorry guys this was just to fucking funny!!!!! i was laughing soooo hard when i saw this. Shit that is jokes.
You should have gotten positive rep points for that one!! :rofl:

[WilloW]

http://www.squidd.org/stupid/picard.jpg
Tractor beam for that ass!

[S14DB]

i took a girl for a ride the other day, and she said my car made the "fast and the furious" noise.......it was hot
You tap that? :coold:

[fliprayzin240sx]

All I know is that im ready to sell the car and get me a G35 when I get back from Philippines

[mmdb]

I had my 240 for 3 years now and I've noticed that the 240 gets more recognition than before. By recognition I mean more part manufacturers which means easier to find parts. Also, I see more people attending circuit racing with their 240s than before which is a definite plus.

[TheSquidd]

There's been like two events there every month for a while. I guess if a person doesn't track their car then it's not worth the drive but if you do it is. Maybe things have changed more for me in the last 3 years compared to the general population. It's all relative I guess but when was the last big meet? Shine st. back in 2004? Nowadays, I don't think many of the older members of the community would even show up. I know I wouldn't.


Owie Flybert! I've driven up to Willow plenty of times! I just wish there was more tracks open than Balcony and Oval (though, Oval is the SHIT! Fucking pissed I missed the Horsetheif event.).

Fontana closed, sure it was a parking lot, but going to an event there saved me at least a hundred dollars in that it was a block away.

San Diego closed, which had insane amounts of track time.

Drift Day moved to Irwindale, which from what I hear isn't even worth the entry fee for how little track time you get (just what I hear! Didn't attend the last one.).

Industry only happens once every few months (best events in socal).

There have been comps, and invites, but they are for far more experienced drivers than I.

I guess I just miss the variety. I dunno. Speaking out my ass.

[CKAMC]

Whats changed? well more people and thats about it along with drifting becoming bigger than what it was. everything else is the same. wont find some companys but thats the same ole shit with time.. the good ones and a few of the bad ones manage to stay around.

[S13SilviaGirl]

a lot of the old socal240sx members are no longer into 240's. They got out when it started getting too popular.

[HyperTek]

I miss it back in the day.. majority of the 240sx owners who where really into thier cars where dedicated.. in 02 was the best meet ever
http://www.freshalloy.com/site/features/events/2002/240sx/photos/003.jpg
the national convention

Now its hard to even consider a convention because of the vast popularity, and no one wants to travel far.

I miss the good old days of socal240sx.org, the summer bbqs etc.. and what happend to Alex Chang? he was pretty much the host of all 240sx related gatherings out here in socal back in the day..

[redsuns3838]

its the same. parts are a little more readily available and there are more brands available stateside now. the price hasnt changed really but then im not looking to get another 240. i bought mine 3 yrs ago, and it doesnt seem like the price i got it at was much different.

newbs arent lazier. ive seen some old members of this forum and various other forums asking newb questions in their first posts and get the same *search* or *read the FSM* shit that they give newbs today. (yes ive been that bored to actually check ppls earliest posts)

there are def a lot MORE newbs tho since 240s have become a increasingly popular in the past couple yrs.

but overall the *Scene* hasnt changed much.

oh squidd- i dont know if the R&D comment is really true. as most stateside companies are just in it for a cheap buck. and japanese companies dont really give a rats ass about us since they make their parts for mainly japanes market. sure they have distributors here now, but i dont think it really effects them in any sense aside from a few extra bucks. compared to their JDM product sales, US is peanuts. aside from maybe HKS, apex, and trust.

[S13SilviaGirl]

The convention was awesome! Alex, he has pretty much gotten out of 240's and driving although he still owns a 240.

He was tired of busting his ass and not getting a lot of appreciation...for not only his personal time and effort, but, his own funding as well. Like that convention he fronted a lot of the money in order to make it happen for all of us.

He gave up the SoCal240sx.org and it is now own and run by Willy and his wife. There are many changes happening and I think the new outlook is gonna be awesome. Just need more people to put their input in and help out. The bulletin for socal240sx had been asking for inputs, but, no one really put anything out. Yet, in the end, all we can do is contribute to it and help make it better. :D

[TheSquidd]

Hahah I wasn't agreeing that Aspec is to thank for R&D, I was just saying that they have brought stateside availability of some hard to find parts. There's also other companies too like Rare Trick, JSpec, and Phase2, etc etc.

About Japanese companies not caring about a US market, I don't think that's the case (unless these companies are retarded). Sure, Japan is good business, yippy, but to reach out and become a big name in the US? You're talking BIG money. If these companies aren't after a piece of that , then why is half the advertising in Modified/Dsport/Drifting from companies like HKS and Greddy?

There's so much money to be made here in America, I can almost guarantee the big name Japanese companies are trying to get their piece of the American dollar.

[ManoNegra]

The 02 Convention was my first. I was very green and had just picked up my first 240 a few months back. Funny remembering now...
I parked my car in a corner away from the main crowd because I was too embarrassed of my pos... lol... I bugged Alex for a free sticker not knowing at the time who he was; he gave it to me and took the time to chat for a bit even though he had an event to run...
240 owners back then were more friendly for the most part and willing to chat. Now everyone is an expert and can't be bothered. There was no such thing as a stupid or noob question then.

[Yuri]

3-years ago- You see another modified 240 on the street, you end up chatting.

2-years ago- You see another modified 240 and you give the thumbs up or peace sign.

1-year ago- you wave or nod

today- you see another modified 240 and they ignore you or act like a jackass.

[TheSquidd]

It's like that everywhere I go, everyone's "rolling hard" with their B-boy stance and gangsta lean in the drivers seat.

Everytime I see a 240sx I'll wave or give a V. Most the time though, it's old people driving them and they probably think I'm crazy.

[CleanS14]

More parts available... a bunch of new retards and a few cool ones becoming owners. Same as any car community/affiliation.

Time to get out while you can... though I think the peak is gone.

[dct223]

word... def when i first got my s14 in 03 the 240 crowd was more friendly on here and on the street.., now i dunno whats up...

I guess i understand the whole "STFU SEARCH" response cus the same threads on something keep showing up, and if he/she spent just a bit more time.. they could find the answer themselves and feel satisfied instead of people just spitting out the answers at them, cus when that happens.. he/she keeps nagging for answers and nobody likes that..

on the street I still try and give a nod or thumbs up or peace sign when i see a moded 240... lots of time i get ignored cus they are too cool or something, or they downshift and want to race... wtf is up with that?? hella KA freeway battle FTL... maybe they like to hear their engine make lots of noise and not really go anywhere

[Flybert]

Owie Flybert! I've driven up to Willow plenty of times!

I hope you didn't think I was specifically aiming my comment at you. More of a general population thing about the whole tracking the car bit. Not trying to be mean about people that don't track there cars either.

The 240sx hayday is over. Like all things, it gets ruined through publicity and popularity mostly due to the younger crowd.

And yeah, without alex chang to organize massive meets and put in hard work and money into large 240sx meets, that crap will never happen again unless someone steps up and fills in his shoes.

[mjjstang]

well two years ago I got my car about, maybe a lil longer than 2 years, but anyway there wrere a couple 240s o nthe road, now there are a couple 240s on the road. dont know about this "Scene" thing.

[S13SilviaGirl]

or they downshift and want to race... wtf is up with that?? hella KA freeway battle FTL... maybe they like to hear their engine make lots of noise and not really go anywhere
Dude, KA's will kick a civic's ass on the fwy...:drool:

[drift freaq]

I miss it back in the day.. majority of the 240sx owners who where really into thier cars where dedicated.. in 02 was the best meet ever
http://www.freshalloy.com/site/features/events/2002/240sx/photos/003.jpg
the national convention

Now its hard to even consider a convention because of the vast popularity, and no one wants to travel far.

I miss the good old days of socal240sx.org, the summer bbqs etc.. and what happend to Alex Chang? he was pretty much the host of all 240sx related gatherings out here in socal back in the day..

As Lisa said earlier Alex got fed up. He did a lot but in the end it burned him out. Plus parts were stolen out of his own garage. Ya it was dope back then going to Mitsuwa after meets. Rolling with Mike Mamos and Sam Chang, Chano,Robthechef,Cameron,Diego,TY,Trung...etc. I made some great friends back in those days. I kinda knew it had started to change the minute Mike stopped going to meets.Back when I still participated on FA. Had my low mileage 91 KA with the lightened larger surface area truck flywheel, the setup that bunny guy would later on get credit for hahahhahhahhahha. T.Y. suggested it and I did it. No else before hahahhahhaha
When I was going to go KAT man that was a while back.
Shine street blew up numbers wise. Instead of it being a bunch of us that all knew each other, it was bunch of hard staring and kids that we did not know. They pretty much did not ask questions they just came gawked at cars and left.
I know that sounds cynical but fact is its how it is. It was different back then and much better, in my opinion socal240sx rocked. The National convention was like the pinnacle. All of us at Speedzone hahahhahha Getting Mr k's autograph! Ya you kinda had to know and be schooled in Nissans back then. Mr K father of of the 240z.
Heh and I am not usually one to be that way, living in Hollywood around all the stars all the time.
Oh well, I love the cars but when the I am ready to sell my RB car I am not sure if I will get another 240sx or just buy a 350z and call it a day.
Used to be into 510's used to be part of Norcal 510 and UFO they changed and I moved on to 240z's. Such is the way it is when you are into a inexpensive popular sports car or sports coupe.

[redsuns3838]

u could be right squid, i mean the cash they make here could go towards more R&D on their products back in japan. guess its all about how they market it.

dct223- haha KAs making noise and not going newhere. I never realized how much like a truck 240s sound till i swapped and got used to my SR. theyre pretty damn loud though huh.

[TheSquidd]

I hope you didn't think I was specifically aiming my comment at you. More of a general population thing about the whole tracking the car bit. Not trying to be mean about people that don't track there cars either.

The 240sx hayday is over. Like all things, it gets ruined through publicity and popularity mostly due to the younger crowd.


Over or not, I'm here, there's parts everywhere, my car rocks my pants, now all I need are some tires and events. I'm not the first, and I won't be the last guy to own a 240sx, but by golly I'm gonna have as much damn fun as possible while I do.

Let's DRIFTING! / Time attacking! / Auto-Xing!:ughug:

[dct223]

Dude, KA's will kick a civic's ass on the fwy...:drool:

hahaha yeah thats true

[mmdb]

Though some previous posters say the "240 scene" is going downhill, attracting the wrong crowd, etc., I don't think you've realized the reasons WHY you've bought a 240 in the first place. Maybe those of you who're saying this is because you've purchased your 240 to follow a trend and now that the trend has died out you've decided to call it quits. Utimately you aren't any different than those who're outside of the box looking in, or those who're intrested in 240s. Regarding those who're planning to sell the car for something comfortable and practical that's great, but for those who're thinking about ridding their car due to the attention (neg and pos) then I think you've initially bought the car for the wrong reasons.

I've purchased my 240 for the sake of being RWD, fun to drive, looks hot, and cheap to maintain. I'm not surprised so many people have jumped to the 240 from FWD cars. FWD is fun to drive, safe, and can be fast, but RWD will always be funner regardless. For one, I've moved from my GSR to the 240 for the sake of getting a RWD car I could comfortably afford, and be funner to drive.

I'm currently working as a software engineer in the communist city of Irvine, where everything is "plastic", and I do get a lot of negative looks, especially from my co-workers, but I feel comfortable knowing they've never tooled on their cars, let alone know how to change their engine oil. In their case ignorance is bliss, and that's one way I cannot live.

[VROOOM]

since we're talking about the scene from a few years ago i decided to post pics of my first 240sx. i owned it from 96-01, got totaled on the freeway by a drunk driver a week after i put the 2nd SR motor in. these pics are from 2000 i believe. enjoy and flame away.
http://i85.photobucket.com/albums/k79/nismothecat/ENGINE240SX.jpg
http://i85.photobucket.com/albums/k79/nismothecat/240sx.jpg

[slideways2004]

the engine bay looks good. but the outside is something to laugh at. i'm sure it was different in 2000

[HyperTek]

my car in 02 when i first got it @ the 02 summer bbq at mile square park
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v72/streetphase/DSC00064.jpg

day after some irwindale drift event in 04 workin that open diff
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v72/streetphase/frontv2.jpg

my car present day
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v72/streetphase/000_00042.jpg

my only complaint about teh community is i catch alot of crap cuz no one sees my car at teh track. people hate it soo much that you get banned from forums or get negative rep from hardcore leet people. Guess you cant have a clean nice 240 and enjoy it the way you want.

[Yuri]

Back in 2000, I would have thought that car was sweet.

Saw another slammed S13 trying to be a badass with stock wheels bombing down the 710, totally not acknowledging the shaka.

[drift freaq]

since we're talking about the scene from a few years ago i decided to post pics of my first 240sx. i owned it from 96-01, got totaled on the freeway by a drunk driver a week after i put the 2nd SR motor in. these pics are from 2000 i believe. enjoy and flame away.
http://i85.photobucket.com/albums/k79/nismothecat/ENGINE240SX.jpg
http://i85.photobucket.com/albums/k79/nismothecat/240sx.jpg
I remember seeing this car. hahahhahhaha.
Anyways to mmbd a few posts above who started going on about us people that feel the scene is not as good as it used to be.
One, I did not buy my car for the scene.
Two, you assume a lot about us old schoolers thinking that because we feel the scene was better then or are moving on means we bought our cars for the wrong reasons.
We created the scene!! It was because we bought these cars and were into these cars that the scene came into existance. Benson did a Sil eightly before anyone had done it stateside. Chris Santos did a KA turbo before Robthechef or TY, both of whom are old schoolers as well. I did the first lightened KA Truck flywheel( larger surface area) with heavy duty clutch.
We all were blazing the trails you guys are on.
Fact is we were into the cars for the sake of the cars, the scene came about because of that. Has it turned kinda funky? IMHO yes. Does it mean I hate 240sx's now? No.
Does it mean I have less desire today to drive my car on the street? Yes, why? Because back in the day cops did not look at us. Now cops look expecting to see some you punk kid showing off and trying to drift on the street. They want to pull us over and look under our hoods. No one wants to go through that.

Thats what has happened and its the cold hard truth at least here in socal.
Now you might be able to understand why some people have decided to move on. Not because we were in the scene for the wrong reasons. Not because we hate our cars. We loved our cars and loved driving them. Though like a relationship that goes bad sometimes you just want to break it up. You sometimes feel like your beating your head against the wall. Thats what happened with Alex Chang. He loved it and then it became to much. He had to divorce himself of it.
Maybe in a few years you will feel the same way, I would be surprised if you didn't. Shit happens.

[S14DB]

Wait, are you claiming to be the first to do the White Bunny clutch set up?

[mav1178]

Someone sent me this link for me to "look at".

Anyhow...

Please don't speak for me when it comes with me and 240SX stuff. There are things in life that are more than just cars and meets and hanging out.

I never regret a single thing I have done, said, or otherwise have been a part of since 1996. I still own a 240SX, but I have not done anything on forums, on mailing list, etc simply because I have no free time. Free time for me these days is a luxury I cannot afford to enjoy. Sounds sad, but it really is not.

The 2002 Convention is, and always will be, the dream I so wished could be continued from year to year. I have the original screen prints of the t-shirt front/back, framed and hanging up in my room. Sadly, with Nissan's move and other invisible hands in this market today, we will never see another event like that for this car.

Do I enjoy giving advice to others willing to know about cars? Sure. Do I know a lot of tips for our cars? Probably. Do I have time to sit here and write messages in forums everyday? Not really.

If anyone really needs to contact me, they would know how to, or at least have the resources to know how to contact me... I've never made it a point to post my contact info in public, nor do I plan on doing it anytime soon, but I don't think finding me is all that difficult.


In any case, I haven't "divorced" myself out of anything. Never. I have been, and always will be, the same person. That will never change. Whatever that goes on in forums, I just don't have time to deal with it. That's all.



-alex

[hybrid_eg]

keep it as stock as you can, imho this at least applies to CA, 240's are almost like hondas now.. around every corner.. less attention you attract the better you're off.. at least where i'm at.. i've been figting with cops for 10 years now over various fixed up cars i just dont have the energy anymore.. and now it doesnt meen i was driving rice out cars.. just clean enough unfortunately to still be picked on :-( ohh well what can you do.. then again its not like i'm going to stop doing it anyways regardless of how tough the law gets.. there are ways out of every possible ticket :-)

[FRpilot]

I remember seeing this car. hahahhahhaha.
Anyways to mmbd a few posts above who started going on about us people that feel the scene is not as good as it used to be.

Fact is we were into the cars for the sake of the cars, the scene came about because of that. Has it turned kinda funky? IMHO yes. Does it mean I hate 240sx's now? No.
Does it mean I have less desire today to drive my car on the street? Yes, why? Because back in the day cops did not look at us. Now cops look expecting to see some you punk kid showing off and trying to drift on the street. They want to pull us over and look under our hoods. No one wants to go through that.

Thats what has happened and its the cold hard truth at least here in socal.
Now you might be able to understand why some people have decided to move on. Not because we were in the scene for the wrong reasons. Not because we hate our cars. We loved our cars and loved driving them. Though like a relationship that goes bad sometimes you just want to break it up. You sometimes feel like your beating your head against the wall. Thats what happened with Alex Chang. He loved it and then it became to much. He had to divorce himself of it.
Maybe in a few years you will feel the same way, I would be surprised if you didn't. Shit happens.

i remember seeing that car around online too.

i couldnt agree with you more dave. i still enjoy 240sx but with all the attention i dont feel like driving on the streets as much. i do like other cars as well, which happen to be more low key, and plan on getting in the future but i will always enjoy 240sx and will probalby have one but just not drive it on the street as much. with all the attention and cops pulling cars over for no reason to pop your hood its difficult. before i thought i could just swap back to ka. i mean you only get faster if you do something repetively but now i realize i dont have the time to do a motorswap every time shit happens. i need another car for the street soon that is less conspicuous but still enjoyable whether it be a honda fit for dd or an rx7 which might be expensive to maintain at this point in my life to be feasable.

[Ricks15]

Yeah the attention now a days is incredible I really wish things were the way the were 2-3 years ago.

[TheSquidd]

:ghey:

The Terrorists have won.

[drift freaq]

Wait, are you claiming to be the first to do the White Bunny clutch set up?
not so much claiming as stating I did. In 2001. Check through FA for the screen name dpro thats me ever notice that my email is [email protected] its in the archives of FA I did it before White bunny did and T.Y. can back me up on that.

[sideview_180sx]

the scene can kiss my ass, it was nice meeting others who lived outside of my local area(which is full of idiots and assholes which is why i act like an ass to those who have met me) i met alot of people from attending meets and events and many are good friends that i get together with on a regular basis. it's not about cars but just having fun. besides it's no longer fun going in large groups anymore w/o worrying about the situation of one-anothers cars. shit my fun car caught fire and i'm done with the scene. people haggled me about that, but simply put, until someone else like alex who can have mutual events that are just out of fun and having a get together and not about offset/aero/and swaps, but just about the people. then i mite come back, thankfully the roadracing scene of bikes is idiot free.

[articdragon192]

3-years ago- You see another modified 240 on the street, you end up chatting.

2-years ago- You see another modified 240 and you give the thumbs up or peace sign.

1-year ago- you wave or nod

today- you see another modified 240 and they ignore you or act like a jackass.

So true, so very true. Whenever I see a 240 now, I pull up and glance over, looking to wave, but all I see is a teenager trying to be hard and all. It sucks, becuase 2 years ago when I first got my 240, many waved back. It was pretty cool having that acknoledgement. Now whenever you do get a wave back, you know the guy has had his car for a while and knew how it was back then.

[VROOOM]

the engine bay looks good. but the outside is something to laugh at. i'm sure it was different in 2000

yeah i kinda laugh when i see pictures of it now too(the engine bay was awesome though). but back then you couldnt find all the stuff you can today. oh well i was really young and had lots of fun with it. thats all that matters

[drift freaq]

Someone sent me this link for me to "look at".

Anyhow...

Please don't speak for me when it comes with me and 240SX stuff. There are things in life that are more than just cars and meets and hanging out.

I never regret a single thing I have done, said, or otherwise have been a part of since 1996. I still own a 240SX, but I have not done anything on forums, on mailing list, etc simply because I have no free time. Free time for me these days is a luxury I cannot afford to enjoy. Sounds sad, but it really is not.

The 2002 Convention is, and always will be, the dream I so wished could be continued from year to year. I have the original screen prints of the t-shirt front/back, framed and hanging up in my room. Sadly, with Nissan's move and other invisible hands in this market today, we will never see another event like that for this car.

Do I enjoy giving advice to others willing to know about cars? Sure. Do I know a lot of tips for our cars? Probably. Do I have time to sit here and write messages in forums everyday? Not really.

If anyone really needs to contact me, they would know how to, or at least have the resources to know how to contact me... I've never made it a point to post my contact info in public, nor do I plan on doing it anytime soon, but I don't think finding me is all that difficult.


In any case, I haven't "divorced" myself out of anything. Never. I have been, and always will be, the same person. That will never change. Whatever that goes on in forums, I just don't have time to deal with it. That's all.



-alex

Excuse me for my poor choice of word alex. I take back the divorce comment and apologize for it.
I was just trying to say that the generally it took up to much of your time. On top of that I know you put quite a bit of effort into all of it, much so more than the rest of us. Though I think we tried to contribute but not the way you did. I never meant to imply you were a changed person either only that you had to move on to other things in your life. I commend you for keeping things going as long as you possibly had time for.
-dave

[trsilvias13]

I want to add the theft rate for 240sx has gone up .

With my moded quartz blue zenki s14, greddy it, sr, 350z wheels in 2003/4, and others stuff , I never had an alarm, never got bothered.

But on my stock kouki s14, at the beginign of this year, my wheels got stolen in about a month of ownership, radio as well and some otehr misc stuff.

Notice all the sticky stolen thread on top....

[dct223]

theft rate as gone up, but its not going to be as much as other cars... resale value on 240sx parts are too crappy for low lives/ ass holes to try and take advantage of the popularity of 240 by stealing and selling..