S13 Ichiba 5 Lug Conversion - SCCA and D1

[voiddweller]

Hello,

Has anyone used these at SCCA or D1 events?

If so, what suspension, wheels and brakes were you running and did any negative issues occur?

Thanks.

[KA24DESOneThree]

If you're worried about it, buy Peak Pro front hubs and OEM rear hubs.

/thread.

[voiddweller]

...buy Peak Pro front hubs ....


What would they be any different? Do you have any experience with either?

[KA24DESOneThree]

Ichiba- Low price (wonder why?) and made of mild steel. No mention of heat treatment. Made uh... somewhere?

Peak Pro- Higher price and made of 4130 chromoly, heat-treated and zinc-plated. Made here.

Tell you what, if you wait 2 months I'll give you my experience with Peak Pro hubs on the track.

[Edgar]

I havent heard of anything bad about Peaks and I ran em on my car so I say just buy them

[snatch13]

Eh I say stay away from Ichiba. The only reason I bought them was cuz peak performance's last shipment was all fucked.

My brakes don't work well now because the hub doesn't spin perfectly around and the rotor won't either. It might be the o-ring spring that they make you put on (which I think is crap, you pay for a product, it should come ready to put on) and its easy to stretch that spring.

All in all... I'm buying some Peaks when I get the money.

[voiddweller]

KA24DESOneThree-

From what I have been reading, it sounds like the Peak Pro's are the best hubs. I would like to hear your track experience with them, but I need to get my car ready by September 15th. Do you have any recommendations for a good seller?

Edgar -

Thank you for the feedback.

snatch13 -

You hit exactly what I would like to avoid, so thank you for posting your experience. Do the Peak's already have the O-Ring spring installed?

Thanks.

[spdfreek0o]

whats the word on these redsh!ft hubs? http://www.redshiftdc.com/catalog/product_info.php?products_id=573&osCsid=00fdfec8052adcf8230af88770a33e42

[Irukandji]

Just buy the Ichibas, they're cheaper and I have a few friends who have run them on the track with no problems.

[ichibausa]

Just buy the Ichibas, they're cheaper and I have a few friends who have run them on the track with no problems.

We do have a lot of customers run the conversion on the tracking without any problems. thanks for your great feedback! :coold:

[voiddweller]

We do have a lot of customers run the conversion on the tracking without any problems.

Thanks for engaging in the thread.

I would really like to hear from some of your customers using the hubs for D1, SCCA, or road racing events.

Please let them know about this thread and see if they wouldn't mind posting their experiences.

Thanks.

[KA24DESOneThree]

voiddweller- I just purchased the Peak Pro hubs from Drift Factory. I've purchased from them before and they're good people. Not SPL or A-spec good but good nonetheless. The car probably won't be together in time for my impressions to make your deadline but please realize the Peak Pro hubs are the best on the market. I have other Peak products and have handled most of their products to the extent that I was annoying their salesperson. The quality is spot-on; most of the Porsche aftermarket stuff I deal with on a daily basis is manufactured to a poorer standard.

Invest in quality.

[drew935]

I purchased the ichiba as well but don't have them installed on the car yet and I don't plan to put it on the track anytime soon. What's the o-ring spring?

[voiddweller]

voiddweller- I just purchased the Peak Pro hubs ...Invest in quality.

Thank you for sharing your history in comparing Peak products to other offerings.

A high price is not always the best indicator of a superior product, but it appears the extra money might be well spent, based on Peak's track record.

I'll wait a little bit longer to see if any other ICHIBA owners post back with competition or track experience. From what I've seen so far, it's a mixed bag.

drew935 -

You'll probably want to ask 'snatch13' about the spring. I've replaced hubs on my B14 and never had to deal with any ' O-Ring springs'.

[KA24DESOneThree]

Update-

Peak Pro hubs are sold out. Peak no longer has any, and neither does Drift Factory. Drift Factory's customer service, which is better than I was expecting, called me to let me know that the Pro hubs are sold out and there is no estimated time of completion of the new batch. I stepped down to their street hubs, which don't have the stud length I'd like but I can always rectify that.

[voiddweller]

Update-

Peak Pro hubs are sold out. Peak no longer has any, and neither does Drift Factory. Drift Factory's customer service, which is better than I was expecting, called me to let me know that the Pro hubs are sold out and there is no estimated time of completion of the new batch. I stepped down to their street hubs, which don't have the stud length I'd like but I can always rectify that.

So these will rust just like the Ichiba's and are probably not heat treated.

Two questions on the Street hubs:

Would you say they are as stong as stock?

What is a reasonable price to pay?

Thanks.

[KA24DESOneThree]

The Street hubs are heat-treated and zinc-plated, just like the Pro hubs.

Would I say they are strong as stock, absolutely. I would even guess they are stronger.

A reasonable price to pay seems to be the current going price, which is $350.

[voiddweller]

The Street hubs are heat-treated and zinc-plated, just like the Pro hubs.

Would I say they are strong as stock, absolutely. I would even guess they are stronger.

A reasonable price to pay seems to be the current going price, which is $350.

Thanks for the info.

I was doing a little research and noticed the Zinc plating looks different with the Pro and Street hubs. When I checked another site (http://phase2motorsports.stores.yahoo.net/pepest5lughu.html) I was not able to find any mention of the Zinc for the Street hubs.

Where should I look to find the info on the heat treating and plating on the Street hubs?

Thanks.

[voiddweller]

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[drew935]

so with the Ichiba's should we coat them with something? I haven't put them on yet. I'm thinking maybe a..hmm, what can you use on that since it needs a high heat temp. engine or exhaust paint>?

[Revup Performance]

Eh I say stay away from Ichiba. The only reason I bought them was cuz peak performance's last shipment was all fucked.

My brakes don't work well now because the hub doesn't spin perfectly around and the rotor won't either. It might be the o-ring spring that they make you put on (which I think is crap, you pay for a product, it should come ready to put on) and its easy to stretch that spring.

All in all... I'm buying some Peaks when I get the money.


The Ichiba 5 Lug Conversions do come ready to install, the bearings are floating until you press them in. This O-ring you talk about, I am not sure what you mean, but there is a factory washer you must re-intall when you remove your factory hubs. If you do not re-install this washer, the hubs will not sit correctly.

All Ichiba USA products comes with a 1 year warranty, if this is a factory defect, you will get the product replaced. Please contact your dealer you purchased them through. Once again I apologize if you have had problems with your 5 lug.

Remember not all 5 lug conversions comes with warranty, and me being a dealer of Ichiba USA products, they stand behind their product. Please contact me if you have any questions or concerns.

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[voiddweller]

... and me being a dealer of Ichiba USA products, they stand behind their product. Please contact me if you have any questions or concerns.

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Hi Mike,

It's nice to see a vendor stand behind what they sell, so thank you.

Since we are dealing with Mild steel, would you know or mind contacting Ichiba to see if the hubs are heat treated for additional strength?

[Revup Performance]

Hi Mike,

It's nice to see a vendor stand behind what they sell, so thank you.

Since we are dealing with Mild steel, would you know or mind contacting Ichiba to see if the hubs are heat treated for additional strength?


Voiddweller-

They are CNC machined out of steel, they are not zinc plated or heat treated or anything like that sort. But the pricing on the zinc plated 5 lugs are twice as much. I have the Ichiba 5 lug on my S13, I dont track the car, but then again is daily driven and no problems.

Once again I stress the 1 year warranty, whether you track them, beat em up or whatever, something goes wrong with them, send them back to me and I'll replace them. I dont believe any other 5 lug conversions out there offer that. Even the zinc plated ones or even the cheaper no name ones.

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[voiddweller]

Mike,

Thanks for clearing that up.

I hate having to replace things twice, so this is good to know. I'm sure that they are pretty much fine on the street in most cases.

I'll ask around some other forums to see if any of the SCCA or D1 participants have experience with them on the track.

- VD

[ichibausa]

Hi Mike,

It's nice to see a vendor stand behind what they sell, so thank you.

Since we are dealing with Mild steel, would you know or mind contacting Ichiba to see if the hubs are heat treated for additional strength?

Normal vehicle heat temperature average is 120 F.

Track vehicle heat temperature average is 150 F.

Ichiba 5 lug conversion hub can hold up to 203 F.

We do have 1 year warranty for all our customers.

[ichibausa]

Mike,

Thanks for clearing that up.

I hate having to replace things twice, so this is good to know. I'm sure that they are pretty much fine on the street in most cases.

I'll ask around some other forums to see if any of the SCCA or D1 participants have experience with them on the track.

- VD

Justin N. @ Performance Nissan (www.perfnissan.com) ran our ICHIBA 5 Lug Hub on the track without any problems.

[crazyikimasho]

Ichiba rear hubs spinning 245s:
http://jtuned.com/media/gallery/MRT/Race/Industry%20Track%20Day2/121.jpg
(front tire smoke is from fender making love to the Federals)

[voiddweller]

Thanks for the post.