Opinion Regarding My Body Work...

[RoNx777]

Okay everybody, since i need to repaint the entire driver side while doing the repairs, im taking advantage of this to recolor my car. The shop im going to is known for their work, he quoted me $2000.00 to repair the damage, take out all the dents around the body and recolor the whole car. However, i have a few dents on the hood that he said can not be taken out, the price does include painting it, but a new OEM hood is gonna cost me another $275.00, so im thinking, should i leave the dents, get the new hood or get a carbon fiber hood???

How much would a Carbon Fiber Hood run aroung???

I still havent decided wut color to paint the car yet but im almost set on Black, wut u guys think??

Oh yeah, the shop is taking care of the ins claim for me too.

Let me knw wut uz think...

[sykikchimp]

what color are you painting it? I'm partial to CF hoods.

[pornallstar]

Personaly I like the carbon Fibre hoods look if you put a nice coat of semi clear color paint on them that way the hood has the same tint as the cars color. And as for the color I would go with Skyline Blue (the blue on the R-34 V Spec) Or the Blue that is on the new NSX (cant remeber what the color is called). Just my .21 cents. Just remeber that it is your car and not ours (unless you would give it to me!!<img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/wink.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=';)'> ) so get what you like.

[blaqsilvia]

personally- black is nice and blue in any shade is too.. I'm not a big supporter of cf hoods since I seem to see so many civics and integ's wearing them, and my goal is to keep myself from looking like one of them.. but hey! its your car..

my .02 on that.. have fun! <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/wink.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=';)'>

[RoNx777]

Im not a fan of those hoods also, but im on a budget here, and i not sure but i think i seen CF hoods for under $275, correct me if im work, but wut the market price on those???

And i think im gonna stick wif Black, cant go wrong w/ black, lolz

[SR20Fastback]

I think that a cf hood would look very nice on black paint. But I wouldn't spend only $275 on a cf hood. cf hoods that cheap are usualy crap. They will after a very short period of time, start to warp, chip, and even crack. I reccomend spending around +800 if you want a very good one. Try to find a reputible company, and buy that one. But yes go with the black or the skyline blue, thats a gorgeous color.

[S13CRAVE]

anybody got a pic of skyline blue? &nbsp;anybody know where to get the color if i decide i like it?

[BEISSEN]

A good cf hood is gonna cost &nbsp;around 600.00 shipped.That is from fiber images which is a good company from what i have heard.But to get a hood without flaws at all you will have to spend around 1200-1500.00 on a cf hood.But i like skyline blue as well.

[Griffon2k]

I have the same problem right now believe it or not. i have to get some dents taken out of my s13. here are a few suggestions based on what i am doing in my situation....

1.) Definetly invest in getting those dents out, if you don't, not matter what else you do to your car, those dents continue to be a sore sight. Get them out first.

2.) Before you paint the car, make sure you have done all you want to the exterior of the car. It would be a bitch to spend $2000 on a paint job, and THEN figure you want to put on a skyline wide body, fender flares or something. And that price brings me to suggestion 3

3.) Make sure you trust this person or shop to paint your car. Some shops are good at body dent repair, others are good at painting cars, not all are good at both. $2000 is a lot of money to spend, I would hate to have you end up like my friend. He had an Integra GS-R and took it to a body shop to get some dent work done and have a kit put on for him. Sure the shop removed the dents perfectly, but they gave him a half-ass paint job. Getting those dents removed shouldn't cost you over $1000, and it should cost close to that much...which means they are charging the rest for the painting. All I'm saying is make sure that you have the right people to paint your car, having all this done at once seems like a good idea, but it isn't if you end up with a half ass paint job.

4.)I love Carbon Fiber. If you are already going to need to replace the OEM hood, WHY NOT GET A CARBON FIBER HOOD? I can't think of any good reasons not too. And lastly, regardless of what anyone else tells you, COST DOES NOT EQUATE TO QUALITY AND NEITHER DOES A NAME. An $800-1500 Carbon fiber hood is no better than one for $300-400, don't be fooled. You would have to be crazy to spend $800 and up for a carbon fiber hood. For the same money you could do a big brake upgrade, a kit or a set of rims. If you see one for $300, snatch it up. AND ALSO GUYS WHEN GIVING ADVICE ABOUT THE QUALITY OF PRODUCTS AND WHICH PRODUCTS TO PURCHASE, PLEASE MAKE SURE THAT YOU HAVE PURCHASED THAT SAME PRODUCT AND HAVE TESTED IT YOURSELF TO MEASURE ITS PERFORMANCE AGAINST OTHER PRODUCTS. OTHERWISE, YOU ARE GIVING ADVICE ABOUT SOMETHING YOU KNOW NOTHING ABOUT....

Hope I could have been some help to you Ron

[ridebmx]

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (Griffon2k @ June 16 2002,03:11)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">And lastly, regardless of what anyone else tells you, COST DOES NOT EQUATE TO QUALITY AND NEITHER DOES A NAME. An $800-1500 Carbon fiber hood is no better than one for $300-400, don't be fooled. You would have to be crazy to spend $800 and up for a carbon fiber hood. For the same money you could do a big brake upgrade, a kit or a set of rims. If you see one for $300, snatch it up.</td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'>
they actually make cf hoods for 300 to 400 dollars, i thought they they only made fiberglass hoods for that much...just a question, if one company was charging 1500 and another say 400 and it was the same quality, then why in the hell would anyone buy from the company charging 1500..i personally wouldnt think anyone would buy from them..there price would have to go down...it just wouldnt make since...in most cases more expensive usually means better quality, if you think about the companys wouldnt be able to sell enough products if you could get a better quality one for less then half the price...

[Griffon2k]

Bmx,

Another company would sell its product at such a high price because they can afford too. It is the same reason why a Veilside Kit is expensive in comparison to a lot of other body kits. Not all Veilside body kits are that good looking, yet because of the Veilside name, people will spend top dollar to wrap their car in one, and the same can be said for Bomex. Just for an example, when I purchased my pluga and wires for my 240, I priced them. Nology was selling wires at ungodly prices, and so was Vitek. I have heard a lot of people speak highly of both of those companies, yet I decided to spend my money on a set of NGK wires because they were at a decent price,and they have real performance quality. Like I said before, and I will repeat myself. These aftermarket companies will sell these items to you at such high prices because they believe you will be sold on their "quality", "prestige", or just right out because you know other people that have it. They can afford to do that because the demand for the name of the product is high. Is a JDM valve cover better in quality than a stock valve cover? hell NO, THEY ARE VALVE COVERS! Yet some people will spend $700 plus for a damn Mugen valve cover. Go figure. All I am saying is don't be suckered into believing that just because everyone else promotes a certain brand, or because it is more expensive it is better.

[RoNx777]

Thanks Griffon, I knw what you mean and i though bout it too, at first i was gonna get a kit however i live in NYC and mah car is lowered 1.5" and im already scraping at driveways and stuff, constantly bottoming out due the f*uk*d streets here.

So i decided "y spend another $1000 and watch it fall into pecies". And Ill go see if can still find the CF hoods at a reasonable price.

Thanks again

[sykikchimp]

Griffon, how many different CF hoods have YOU owned?? &nbsp;Maybe you should take your own advice. &nbsp;That said, you don't need to Own one to have a good idea of what makes them different or better. &nbsp;Otherwise everyone would have to go through buying the cheap shit peices and then replacing them later with the good ones.

I've personally have never owned one, but after talking to several people that have owned several different brands, then I can tell you there IS a difference. &nbsp;I would NOT spend $300 on a CF hood that will look good for about 3-6 months. &nbsp;There are also differences in bracing, and build. &nbsp;Some hoods are built to withstand more abuse, and flex less. &nbsp;I've seen pictures of a Fiber Images hood that blew open b/c the guy didn't have hood pins, and the windsheild is crushed. &nbsp;Hood was still in good condition with minimal scarring. &nbsp;I've also seen pictures and reaed about cheap CF hoods beginning to warp, and actually crack, and peel after 6-months.

Price doesn't always mean a difference, but I can gaurentee you the a huge price difference liek 1200 vs. 300 would not go un-noticed in the market if there was no difference. &nbsp;Your example of Veilside is not a good one. &nbsp;Veilside makes VERY high quality, exact fit kits. &nbsp;To compare a Veilside kit to a cheapo kit is stupid. &nbsp;For the money it wouyld cost you to get the el-cheapo kit to fit, you probably could've bought the veilside.. and remember looks, and appearance is subjective. &nbsp;One person could justify the price simply b/c they think it is Beautiful..


This is all BASIC Economics...

[ridebmx]

thanks for backing me up chimp...that is what i was tryin to get at...but it was 5 in the morning and the words just werent coming out...

[misnomer]

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote </td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">just a question, if one company was charging 1500 and another say 400 and it was the same quality, then why in the hell would anyone buy from the company charging 1500..i personally wouldnt think anyone would buy from them..there price would have to go down...it just wouldnt make since...in most cases more expensive usually means better quality</td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'>

Raise your hand if you wear Nikes or some other $100+ name brand shoes. My shoes cost me $20-$30 and I garuntee they last just as long (if not longer). A name holds a lot more than you guys give credit for, and it doesn't always mean quality.

That said, I don't like the look of carbon fiber and know absolutely nothing about cf hoods. If I ever get a new hood, it'd be fiberglass or some sort of polyurethane <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/tounge.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':p'>

[sykikchimp]

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (misnomer @ June 17 2002,02:37)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE"></span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote </td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">just a question, if one company was charging 1500 and another say 400 and it was the same quality, then why in the hell would anyone buy from the company charging 1500..i personally wouldnt think anyone would buy from them..there price would have to go down...it just wouldnt make since...in most cases more expensive usually means better quality</td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'>

Raise your hand if you wear Nikes or some other $100+ name brand shoes. My shoes cost me $20-$30 and I garuntee they last just as long (if not longer). A name holds a lot more than you guys give credit for, and it doesn't always mean quality.

That said, I don't like the look of carbon fiber and know absolutely nothing about cf hoods. If I ever get a new hood, it'd be fiberglass or some sort of polyurethane <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/tounge.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':p'></td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'>
ok... &nbsp;so you think there is no difference b/w say,... spalding and nike??? &nbsp;ummm..... &nbsp;yeeaahhh... <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/wow.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':0'>

Granted people will pay for a specific name brand.. &nbsp;but there is one important variable in your example that makes that different.. &nbsp;such as the oligopoly the shoe companies have on the market.. &nbsp;They can pretty much set prices at whatever they want, and are exempt from the normal rules. &nbsp;<img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':)'>

sorry... &nbsp;I'm an econ major.