bottom line on 300zx e-brakes?

[timlush]

http://importnut.net/240pics/brake_upgrade/first_ebrake31.JPG

is this how most people do it? i was told that doing it this way can cause the e-brake to be engaged when the car is jacked up. can anyone confirm or deny this?

[infinitexsound]

dont do it that.. way.... it doesnt work well and the cable just slips when u pull the handle..... best way is to reroute the cables the long way and use a cable clamp...those dubro collars are junk..

[95zilvia]

dang i need to do something like that. my ebrake cables still dont work.

[timlush]

dont do it that.. way.... it doesnt work well and the cable just slips when u pull the handle..... best way is to reroute the cables the long way and use a cable clamp...those dubro collars are junk..

well, what i had in mind as far as cable clamps are not what's in that picture. i searched for a pic of them to post to see if they would be better but i couldn't find a pic. the clamps i was wanting to use are kinda the same concept of some battery terminals where i would put both cables in and tighten 2 bolts on either side of the cables. those the ones you are talking about? (sorry if that's a bad description)

[j_ren180]

Does anyone have the e-brake cable kit for S13s? How effective is that?

[WilloW]

I'm using R33 cables on my S14 for the Z32 ebrakes.

[DaN_S13]

Does anyone know if the e-brake cables from a UK spec s13 would work with the z32 brakes since they also have the disc/drum brake setup.

[ManoNegra]

S13 - Re-route Z32 cables.
S14 - R33 cables.
Done

[Dousan_PG]

i use YANACK ebrake lines on my s14
i used stock z32 lines on my s13

both have/had the rear z brakes

never had a problem

iirc flybert uses the z32 ones too on a s13

[Realchaos1]

yeah I would be worried that the cable would slip. The bolts could come loose slowly and your screwed.

Does anyone know if the e-brake cables from a UK spec s13 would work with the z32 brakes since they also have the disc/drum brake setup.

wtf... they came with drum brakes?? :goyou: ...

[drift freaq]

R33 e brake cables will work on the s13 as well.

[statik]

yeah I would be worried that the cable would slip. The bolts could come loose slowly and your screwed.



wtf... they came with drum brakes?? :goyou: ...

hes referring to the e-brake portion, its seperate from the caliper itself

[rancid240]

S13 - Re-route Z32 cables.
S14 - R33 cables.
Done


Is there a consensus yet on wether or not 2+0 lines are shorter?

[240trainee]

I dunno, the lines I have will not fit an S13, they are definatly too short. I think they are off of a 2+2, though I am not sure. it seriously bums me out that they don't fit though....

[rancid240]

I dunno, the lines I have will not fit an S13, they are definatly too short. I think they are off of a 2+2, though I am not sure. it seriously bums me out that they don't fit though....


Mine fit, from a 2+2. Are they too long or too short?

[240trainee]

Mine are like 8-12" too short.

[AWDtoyota]

Ok I think I have the answer for the S13 guys.
This was done on a 91 240SX hatchback.

I tried both the regular Z32 cables, and the 2+2 cables.

First attempt was the standard Z32 cables, these cable DO reach. They just have to be rerouted through the subframe, some costom brackets need to be made, and the handle needs to be loosened almost all the way. This setup worked fine, and the handle felt very close to the feel of the original setup.

But I am a perfectionist and I had to try all the options untill I am satified. The 2+2 cable is next. This cable is longer than the standard z32 cable, its about the same length as the stock 240SX cable. I am still fine tuning this setup so I'm not fully complete. But this setup requires alot of adjustment at the handle. You have to take up alot, and I mean alot, of slack. I routed this cable the same as the standard z32, and made custom brackets for it as well.

Right now I have the 2+2 cables on the car, after the further fine tuning, I will make my decision on which cable to run permantely, but right now I like the regular z32 cable better.

Here are some comparsion pics, and rerouting pics:

http://files.photojerk.com/AWDtoyota/resize1.JPG
Top to bottom: 240SX cable/ Regular 300ZX cable/ 300ZX 2+2 cable

http://files.photojerk.com/AWDtoyota/resize2.JPG
Left to right:240SX cable/ Regular 300ZX cable/ 300ZX 2+2 cable

http://files.photojerk.com/AWDtoyota/resize3.JPG
regular 300ZX cable top, and 300ZX 2+2 cable bottom

http://files.photojerk.com/AWDtoyota/resize4.JPG
regular 300ZX cable top, and 300ZX 2+2 cable bottom

http://files.photojerk.com/AWDtoyota/resize5.JPG
240SX cable top, and 300ZX 2+2 cable on bottom

Rerouting:
These are of the regular 300ZX cable....2+2 pics coming soon....

http://files.photojerk.com/AWDtoyota/resize6.JPG
E-brake cable passed through the oval shaped hole in the subframe (how it comes on the Z32's)

http://files.photojerk.com/AWDtoyota/resize7.JPG
Cable passed over the exhaust, and bracket used to hold it away from the driveshaft.

The next pics are of the routing, and the custom bracket I made.
http://files.photojerk.com/AWDtoyota/resize8.JPG

http://files.photojerk.com/AWDtoyota/resize9.JPG

http://files.photojerk.com/AWDtoyota/resize10.JPG

http://files.photojerk.com/AWDtoyota/resize11.JPG

Any question, let me know, I will do my best to answer them. If you need more pics, I will try to get those for you also. I'm still working on the 2+2 setup, so when I finish I will let you guys know how that goes compared to the standard Z32.

Hope this helps......

[240trainee]

That is exactly what I was looking for, gonna give it a shot on the project car in a couple weeks, thanks very much. I just must be dumb then and not looked at hou best to route everything.

[rancid240]

Any question, let me know, I will do my best to answer them. If you need more pics, I will try to get those for you also. I'm still working on the 2+2 setup, so when I finish I will let you guys know how that goes compared to the standard Z32.

Hope this helps......

I did the same for my 2+2 lines. But I used the bracket that you used to keep it from the exhaust, in the location that you made a custom bracket. I did adjust the handle as tight as it would go, and the brakes lock up very nicely. I only have to pull up 4 -5 clicks and it locks up all the way. BTW my 2+2 lines look more like your regular z32 lines (concerning the bracket up top near where it mounts to the handle).

[flytwa78]

Doesn't SPL Parts sell pre-made lines.

[eds13]

i think i have z32 lines. i got them off of a car s13 that had z brakes in the rear.
i just need to adjust them and get them working right :D

[SoSideways]

Doesn't SPL Parts sell pre-made lines.

I didn't find anything just now, so I would lean towards "NO".

[XxJaPxOxNeEs23xX]

this is what i have done for my s14. i didnt make it my dad did because i dont know how to weld, but this is just a suggestion.

http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y139/XxJaPxOxNeEs23xX/brakes/BrakeCableBracket72.jpg


http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y139/XxJaPxOxNeEs23xX/brakes/BrakeCableBracket6.jpg


http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y139/XxJaPxOxNeEs23xX/brakes/BrakecableIntermediate6.jpg


http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y139/XxJaPxOxNeEs23xX/brakes/BrakecableIntermediate15.jpg


http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y139/XxJaPxOxNeEs23xX/brakes/BrakecableIntermediate53.jpg

rest are on here
http://share.shutterfly.com/action/welcome?sid=8DbMWzRy1fQ

[timlush]

i have an s14 and $300 for r33 cables is not an option. i'm gonna try the cable clamps

[WilloW]

i have an s14 and $300 for r33 cables is not an option. i'm gonna try the cable clamps
Wow, $300? Who gave you that quote? I bought mine from Performance Nissan for $110 and some change. Oh yeah, I got great service from them too, they got good people working there.

[projectRDM]

i have an s14 and $300 for r33 cables is not an option. i'm gonna try the cable clamps

Damn, you're buying four pair for one car? Why you need three extra pair?

[SoSideways]

http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y139/XxJaPxOxNeEs23xX/brakes/BrakecableIntermediate53.jpg




What brand RLCA is that? Looks hot as hell. And if you bought it, where did you get it from? And how much?

Thanks.

[XxJaPxOxNeEs23xX]

rlca means rear lower control arm right? if it is its an ikeya formula, got it when i was in japan. it was 700 somthing. i got it 2 years ago, so might be cheaper? its adjustable, so the angle of camber can be adjusted any way you want while extending the tire out a little further.

[240trainee]

http://www.splparts.com/Parts/NissanShared/Suspension/Multilink/SPLRearLowerArm.jpg

Like $834 from spl. probably would be easier to get, though i dunno.

[SoSideways]

Well, here's my thread on the Nismo LCA from FA.

http://forums.freshalloy.com/showthread.php?t=150768&highlight=nismo+control

Now, back to our regularly scheduled programs...

[HyperTek]

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v72/streetphase/100_0580.jpg

i tried routing it the way above but i coulda sworn its just not long enough.. oh well i didnt burn any bridges

[Nintensity]

Hi guys, I just want to bring up an old post because I didn't want to create a new thread.

I have a specific problem regarding my Z32 ebrake swap on my S14. Simply put: My eBrake is looser, unresponsive, and weak. I really have to tug on the eBrake just so I can stop it from moving on a hill.

This is what my guy said to me after I got my car back from the shop:


We did notice the ebrake wasn't as responsive as before. We tried tinkering with the adjustment but we couldn't get it much better. Could be an issue with the handbrake mechanics itself. We didn't want to adjust too much because the ebrake could become engaged after the rotors heat up.

If you want we can see if we can adjust it a bit tighter.

What do you guys suggest I should do?

[ixfxi]

adjust the engagement point at the drum assembly itself, or possibly replace the drum pads if needed.

[Nintensity]

adjust the engagement point at the drum assembly itself, or possibly replace the drum pads if needed.

Are you referring to the rear caliper brake pads? I just replaced these pads with BRAND new Hawk HPS pads.

Engagement point? Not sure what you're getting here.

Any more info would be awesome! thanks for the help!

[upsdude]

there's an adjustment screw on the ebrake assembly that turns to loosen/tighten the ebrake shoes. you can use a screwdriver or get a tool for it at harbor freight. and the the pads he was referring to are called brake shoes they may be worn out