500hp bet

[IAM_SO_sLOw]

alright can some people share some info on this... me and 2 other friends have a bet on... is it possible to make 500 hp w/ only a turbo, injectors,spark plugs, fuel pump...w/ a sr20det... the engine only has to make it...doesnt matter how long the car last..
-thanks:bigok:

[Realchaos1]

yes, but the engine wont be reliable. It will probably blow up in 2 minutes, lol

if you want that kind of horse power in an SR, your looking at a full build.

[KiDyNomiTe]

you could probably make more, your main issue is probably the MAF, and whether or not your injectors are actually used..

[kouki_s14]

bring your car over, we'll try it
ill get my friend to let us borrow the turbo he was gonna use for his supra :bigok:
wait your car isnt running, hurry up and finish it dammit!

[Nizzan4u2nv]

Youre gonna need bigger maf and good engine management. Ive seen a few SR on stock bottom end with 500+whp. Youre also gonna need race gas and a boost controller.

[Xracer]

500whp? You could probably pull off 1 or 2 dyno pulls. lots of boost and lots of fuel.

OT:
Real chaos: WHERE IS THAT IN YOUR SIG!??! i must go there now.

[TAMTANIUM]

I bet with him and my other friend. The thing is..when i said what do you guys need to make that 500hp? They said just give us a big turbo, fuel injectors, spark plugs, fuel pump and that is it. I said ok..but in reality face it. You will need a top mount or a custom manifold to bolt that big turbo on. So that is a lost already for them right there. 2nd no boost controller to turn up the boost, unless yanking out the wastegate line. 3rd no fuel pressure regulator. 4th no metal head gasket, i'm sure it will blow when boosting that thing up high. My conclusion is that...to dyno a 500hp with just a big turbo, fuel pump, fuel injectors, and spark plugs on a stock sr, no tuning, and with nothing else at all. It will not make it.

[Nizzan4u2nv]

I bet with him and my other friend. The thing is..when i said what do you guys need to make that 500hp? They said just give us a big turbo, fuel injectors, spark plugs, fuel pump and that is it. I said ok..but in reality face it. You will need a top mount or a custom manifold to bolt that big turbo on. So that is a lost already for them right there. 2nd no boost controller to turn up the boost, unless yanking out the wastegate line. 3rd no fuel pressure regulator. 4th no metal head gasket, i'm sure it will blow when boosting that thing up high. My conclusion is that...to dyno a 500hp with just a big turbo, fuel pump, fuel injectors, and spark plugs on a stock sr, no tuning, and with nothing else at all. It will not make it.

It might for like 1 sec before the pistons start to melt, and everything else falls apart. You gotta think clutch too. Even with the right parts, you cant make that power without a strong enough clutch. Sounds stupid and a waste of time to me. :loco:

[IAM_SO_sLOw]

^^
its a hypothetical question lol im not really going to do it...

[ciGARRETTsRbad4u]

Sounds to me like tamtanium lost the bet...

[blackflag_Rms13]

No... he won...

[REDSH!FT]

Yeah...wire in a few extra injectors into the throttle body...Run C16...lots of boost on a big turbo

I could happen...but who cares? You can do it on any motor...It won't last but half a dyno pull though

[Edgar]

I got some of that C16 here at the shop

[SochBAT]

Fail.

Technically, it IS possible. But in the real world, you'll have that power for a few seconds, then boom.

Tamponium won! =]

[byhi]

alright can some people share some info on this... me and 2 other friends have a bet on... is it possible to make 500 hp w/ only a turbo, injectors,spark plugs, fuel pump...w/ a sr20det... the engine only has to make it...doesnt matter how long the car last..
-thanks:bigok:

it will not get their with that MAF< it is possible with a greddy emanage that has a variable interchange with MAF until the MAF runs out, then it can switch to a MAP sensor... (only costs like 40 bucks too!!!!)

but i think what you are asking more than what you listed is if a SR stock bottom end can handle 500 hp, right? some kid over here made 491 on stock bottom end, and the only thing he had that wasnt on your list was a cobra maf

[trsilvias13]

You cannot control the larger injector with out a fuel management. What #cc are need to support 500wrhp? either way it over 500cc right? You cannot dump 500cc injector in and expect it to run great

[rollhard]

alright can some people share some info on this... me and 2 other friends have a bet on... is it possible to make 500 hp w/ only a turbo, injectors,spark plugs, fuel pump...w/ a sr20det... the engine only has to make it...doesnt matter how long the car last..
-thanks:bigok:

With ONLY those things, you wont make it. Without the proper tuning tools, your car wont make it to 500hp. Trust me, I've seen plenty of these bets go wrong and the engine blowing up on the dyno.

First of all, getting 500hp is not about dumping in all kinds of fuel and turning the boost up. Its NOT going to happen. I dyno about 3-5 cars a week and I always ask the owners what they expected from the car. Here is the problem. You put extra injectors or super large ones, larger fuel pump, etc and your car is actually going to lose power. All the fuel is going to bog your car and prevent boost from happening. You NEED to tune the car. Getting 500hp is not going to happen with one dyno pull. It takes extensive tuning or the fuel, timing, etc. If you put 550cc in the car, your car wont run. Your idle will be all F'ed up and your car will bog when you try to step on it. Youll need fuel management to control the fuel.

This is not directed to you so dont take it personally. Lets all stop cutting corners and build these cars right.

[fliprayzin240sx]

It all comes down to tuning...add a power FC in the equation, and big enough injector and Turbo setup/boost, its pretty much possible. Then HG will likely blow but hey..you win the bet if you got atleast those...

[TAMTANIUM]

With ONLY those things, you wont make it. Without the proper tuning tools, your car wont make it to 500hp. Trust me, I've seen plenty of these bets go wrong and the engine blowing up on the dyno.

First of all, getting 500hp is not about dumping in all kinds of fuel and turning the boost up. Its NOT going to happen. I dyno about 3-5 cars a week and I always ask the owners what they expected from the car. Here is the problem. You put extra injectors or super large ones, larger fuel pump, etc and your car is actually going to lose power. All the fuel is going to bog your car and prevent boost from happening. You NEED to tune the car. Getting 500hp is not going to happen with one dyno pull. It takes extensive tuning or the fuel, timing, etc. If you put 550cc in the car, your car wont run. Your idle will be all F'ed up and your car will bog when you try to step on it. Youll need fuel management to control the fuel.

This is not directed to you so dont take it personally. Lets all stop cutting corners and build these cars right.

Thank you for the right answer I been looking for. My friend still think that you can still make it..if you step on the gas pedal slowly until it go up? What do you think on that? The answer that you can give me on that..will shut him up. I know for sure that the motor will not even rev right and even if it does make it. The motor will shut off right away when the turbo start to boost. Due to the MAF, fuel management, tuning, and ignition are the key here are not proberly tune and upgrade. A lot of people told me their car shut off when they raise the boost psi up too much without upgrading the ignition system. Does a stock SR MAF even support more than 300hp? IIRC they don't. With only fuel injectors and fuel pump..I think it's already way off to not make the car run right already. With all of them being way off, it's just not possible.

2nd question for you..since you are in the business of dyno. How long does it usually takes to dyno a car?

[osus14]

acutally to make 500hp with injectors, turbo and fuel pump is pretty hard.. First of all, if you get bigger injectors you need to tune the engine for the injectors, thefore.. even if you go 20 percent above stock, your car will not start due to it running to rich and you will foul your plugs. Second if you run a turbo that will be able put out 500hp, you need a aftermartket wastegate. there is not stock turbo internally gated that will be able to put out that much with a t25 flange. If you want to use a deisel turbo, you need a manifold. so basically that is realistically not possible. :/ there are many other reasons but the important parts i have listed.

and btw tamtanium won the bet for sure.. :)