HID retrofit - headlight housing progress *pics*

[csdcowboy]

Well this has been a long ass project. I've long since taken out the popups and put in the fixed position E46 Bi-xenon HID units. I just didn't like the janky-ness of the current setup, so I'm trying the fiberglass route.

So far, I've got the mold done. Next step is to start putting the fiberglass into the mold to create the piece that will actually go on the car.

Anyways, just thought I'd share.

http://oregonstate.edu/~schmimat/mold1.gif
http://oregonstate.edu/~schmimat/mold2.gif
http://oregonstate.edu/~schmimat/mold3.gif

[EchoOfSilence]

pics of current setup?

[TougeRacing]

coool a skeet raaaag, hahah j/k. what u use to make the mold?

[csdcowboy]

Here's what I have now. It's the passenger side, but you get the idea.

Bask in it's janky-ness....

http://oregonstate.edu/~schmimat/light.gif

[RightWheelDrive]

^^ thats an interesting setup you got there...

[NemeGuero]

+1 for a creative idea.

I like it, keep updating the progress.

[SoSideways]

Even though bi-xenon units utilize the same housing for the high beam and low beam, if you plan on flashing somebody, the bi-xenon lights will not be fast enough to react to that, so it's a good idea to have a seperate halogen high beam for that function.

And yes, being able to flash someone is important, especially to wake that asshole that's crossed into your lane up, late at night.

[TUnity2]

WOW, different, very very different. pics of the whole car with headlights?

[North240]

I like where your heads at +1 And i also agree to the halogen idea, keep us posted.

[csdcowboy]

Even though bi-xenon units utilize the same housing for the high beam and low beam, if you plan on flashing somebody, the bi-xenon lights will not be fast enough to react to that, so it's a good idea to have a seperate halogen high beam for that function.

And yes, being able to flash someone is important, especially to wake that asshole that's crossed into your lane up, late at night.

Actually, it's all the same bulb, so there's no lag time in firing up another bulb. The only thing that happens when brights come on is a flap goes down, allowing more light out. So...flashing works JUST fine :)

Here's some shots of the whole front:

http://oregonstate.edu/~schmimat/car1.gif
http://oregonstate.edu/~schmimat/car2.gif

Thanks everyone for the comments!

[NemeGuero]

Are you going to redo the housings and eliminate the pop-ups? 'cuz I think it might look better.

[csdcowboy]

Are you going to redo the housings and eliminate the pop-ups? 'cuz I think it might look better.

The only part of the pop-ups that are still there are the covers, which you can see have a hole in them. The projectors are fixed-position...no flipping up involved.

The housings I'm making will completely eliminate the stock pop-up pieces.

[Neejay]

The housings I'm making will completely eliminate the stock pop-up pieces.
I think thats what he's talking about. Subscribing...

[SoSideways]

Actually, it's all the same bulb, so there's no lag time in firing up another bulb. The only thing that happens when brights come on is a flap goes down, allowing more light out. So...flashing works JUST fine :)


I didn't say that it takes time to fire up another HID bulb, but it does take time to move that flap.

I don't know how long it takes to move the flap exactly, as I do not have a bixenon setup, and you do, so you'd be able to tell me exactly.

But, there's a reason why BMW has the bixenon hi/low beam, and a seperate halogen high beam for flashing people.

Vids or ban :fawk:

[dct223]

+1 for great idea, never even though of cutting bumper/popups for a HID retrofit

[wootwoot]

Reminds me of the Ducati front end

[NemeGuero]

I like the idea, but the headlight looks too simple.. there isn't enough of a front going on...

But I'll hold my opinion until I see the final product. Keep up that custom work... that's where its at.

[evil_tt]

:hitit: I have to say +1 aswell! It does look alittle simple, but throw some more ideas into. You may see me paying you to do my lights some day!

[fatalfury64]

:hammer: :ghey: :bash: :confused:

:wtf: :mepoke: :faint:

[evil_tt]

..........those smilys are pretty cool:ugh:.......

[csdcowboy]

I didn't say that it takes time to fire up another HID bulb, but it does take time to move that flap.

I don't know how long it takes to move the flap exactly, as I do not have a bixenon setup, and you do, so you'd be able to tell me exactly.

But, there's a reason why BMW has the bixenon hi/low beam, and a seperate halogen high beam for flashing people.

Vids or ban :fawk:

It's nearly instantaneous :) I'll get a vid when the highs are working properly...I need to replace the diode. *EDIT: after review, it's the capacitor, not the diode.* Will take more time, but I'll get a vid when I get it all running.

And for those commenting on the simplicity, I agree...for now. I'll be putting on some kind of metal bezel that will give it a little spice :D

[fatalfury64]

the smileys are pretty cool evil:fruit: :ugh: :axe:

i know everyone's like :wtf: with the smileys, but i've never seen anything like this one. the customized hid looks ghettorigged. i still give props though.:rolleyes:

[ALTRNTV]

^
STFU.

Not my cup of tea, but it's different than all the other options we have. Maybe because it isn't finished yet.

[fatalfury64]

are you talkin' to me?? if you're, thats messed up. i'm just expressing my opinion.

[Ricks15]

Unique that something you dont see everyday:bigok:

[S14DB]

are you talkin' to me?? if you're, thats messed up. i'm just expressing my opinion.
I didn't know being an Asshole with smiles was an opinion.

You need to chill with the double posts. If you have to add something, edit the post. Don't post again right after it.

Keep you flaming to yourself. It's one thing to respectfully disagree and post why. It's totally childish to post smiles and flames.

[driftracer]

I agree. This is definitely something you don't see everyday. :)

[frankist]

Wouldnt making those projectors to far back cut some of the lighting that projects onto the road? looks like a lizard for some reason.. ha

[axiomatik]

interesting, but it looks a little weird with the single projectors. If you had dual projectors, you could get a 3000GT look goin on.

[TougeRacing]

wow interesting turn out, looks like a snake haha, have any pics of it at night?

[EchoOfSilence]

I think the projectors are too far back to provide a good beam pattern. Very creative, though.

I hope the setup you're working turns out great.

[EH9]

Comment removed.

[csdcowboy]

EH9 - I think a lot of the reason S13'rs don't sport those kits like you pictured is largely due to availability. There's just not that many good looking housings that you can drop in. The Silvia conversion is just easier.

To those commenting on beam pattern: It's actually pretty damned good. Had I not cut out that portion of the bumper it would be a lot worse...I lost a good 3/4"-1" of light (where it would hit the backside of the bumper) before I took that out. Cutoff is crisp, and it lights up everything in front of me :)

[fatalfury64]

I didn't know people take things so seriously. I ain't tryin' to be mean, but thats my opinion. If you're into JDM, then you'll know what i mean. The truth does hurt. Better to tell the truth then live a lie. The smileys was messed up i understand, but i couldn't edit. I don't appreciate that someone actually called me a [email protected]

[240silvia]

good progress so far. I'm in the middle of doing the same thing. I'll put some pictures up soon. How do you adjust your lights up and down? Please let me know

[my hatch kills your S15]

all the people that are saying it looks nice are just riding your dick. and that's the truth. that looks like fuckin shit. sorry to say but i'd really like to see someone else out there copy your style. mainly the people that are saying it looks nice. it doesn't flow with the car at all. nothing even lines up straight.

[ALTRNTV]

^
Said by a true troll.

[FaLKoN240]

all the people that are saying it looks nice are just riding your dick. and that's the truth. that looks like fuckin shit. sorry to say but i'd really like to see someone else out there copy your style. mainly the people that are saying it looks nice. it doesn't flow with the car at all. nothing even lines up straight.

You. . .go to hell, get banned or something

His car looks like someone sleeping in class, but they drew pupils on their eyelids before they fell asleep. . .LOL.

[CaoBoY]

i dont like it. ONLY because it is pushed in like that, and there is no cover over the projectors. yet, this shows promise, and it IS homemade. would like to see the finished product. if the headlightcovers themselves were molded in, it would look better. but if they also pop up, that would look cool to, as i believe you are doing? i will be looking into this further and seeing your progress. hopefully you finish this little project.

[JXN]

That looks like an Integra DC2 :rofl:

put the silvia front end on, and it will look like another integra DA6 with projectors! HAHAHAHAHAH

[ALTRNTV]

Remember, it's not even close to being finished yet. It'll await my judgement when I see the final product. I also want to see night shots.

[my hatch kills your S15]

That looks like an Integra DC2 :rofl:

put the silvia front end on, and it will look like another integra DA6 with projectors! HAHAHAHAHAH



finally a true car enthusiast... :rawk:


i give u props for being creative but that thing just looks straight up ghetto and ugly. sorry.

ban me for being honest and giving you my opinion. :cj:

[fatalfury64]

I agree with the hatch guy. At least he knows whats up.

[!Zar!]

Why are you nubs hating. The dude is doing something that he wanted to share his progress on, and all you can do is criticize before it's even finished. Wtf is wrong with you?

my hatch kills your S15: You are a douche. Posting such statments of a child to someone who didn't ask what your oppinion was on it. And incase you didn't notice the first effin post. HE ISN'T FINISHED. So who are you to judge how something incomplete looks.

csdcowboy: Nice work so far, and I'm looking forward to the final product.

[ALTRNTV]

Maybe they're "friends." Their join date is the same, both from Cali, and they both haven't posted much.

[dct223]

wordddd zar!

[fatalfury64]

i guess people don't have anything else to do. they just talk too much shit. its an opinion, no need to get all anal about it. its called reality, i do have a life you knows instead of posting all day long like you peepz. go out and do something instead of computer bang you freaks and don't jump to stupid conclusions about me knowing this hatch guy.

[!Zar!]

i guess people don't have anything else to do. they just talk too much shit. its an opinion, no need to get all anal about it. its called reality, i do have a life you knows instead of posting all day long like you peepz. go out and do something instead of computer bang you freaks and don't jump to stupid conclusions about me knowing this hatch guy.
Wow. So what does your life consist of. Obviously it wasn't one of education judging by your lack of propper grammar.
I like how when nubs feel threatened they go to name calling and say anything internet related is for people with no lives. I do have a problem with your opinion on something that isn't complete.
If you have a problem with the way it looks hold your tounge untill he is finished. And THEN judge.

*edit* HID retrofit -... 04-06-2006 02:37 AM fatalfury64 this guy is a douche

Just to let you know, that doesn't report my post. If you want to do that, then it's the triangle icon in the bottom not the scale.

[fatalfury64]

i can care less what you think. but the truth is the truth. all you bandwagon peepz, telling the guy to keep up the good work, its a joke. if i saw that on the streets, i would be like wtf and laugh. if you're a friend, you tell the truth. the truth does hurt, but u learn from it and try to change. you just don't get it. i'm being real not a fake ass. it takes a lot to step up.

[ALTRNTV]

It may look like ass now, but hey, it's not even done yet. Reserve your judgement until it's done. You never know, it could look better than the other headlight "options."

all you bandwagon peepz

Threadstarters join date- Nov. 2004
Your join date- Dec. 2005

Hmm... seems you're the one on the bandwagon.

[fatalfury64]

at least you get my respect ak, but the guy that called me a douch, u can tell your boyfriend to fuck you hard and maybe you won't be so much of a bitch anymore you broke back faggit. let the truth be told.

[S14DB]

at least you get my respect ak, but the guy that called me a douch, u can tell your boyfriend to fuck you hard and maybe you won't be so much of a bitch anymore you broke back faggit. let the truth be told.

OK this BS stops now. Anymore personal or OT attacks and this Thread gets locked and the User pinked.

[csdcowboy]

Hey guys, STOP SHITTING ON MY THREAD. That goes for everyone.

Critique about my lights is fine, but if you're just gonna yell at each other, do it somewhere else. (Thanks S14DB)


Anyhow, I appreciate both the yays and nays, honestly. I take into account the fact that it's a work in progress, and also that there's gonna be people that it doesn't really please. I mean...look at the first post...I said right off it's janky! haha It's the same with any appearance mod.

Haven't had a chance to start laying in the actual piece into the mold yet, but probably this weekend. :wiggle:

I'll get some night pics for you guys too here soon.

[aa87]

Hmm, is it possible to use the HID projector in the open?, or is yours sealed from the back. I've been considering a supermade-style setup, but instead of using the foglamps they use, using a bixenon projector or some similar setup.

[NemeGuero]

You can "not like it" all you want. Either way, the guy is doing some good work.

I don't even own an s13, but I respect what he's doing.

[csdcowboy]

Hmm, is it possible to use the HID projector in the open?, or is yours sealed from the back. I've been considering a supermade-style setup, but instead of using the foglamps they use, using a bixenon projector or some similar setup.

I put a shroud around the light, if that's what you mean by "open."

http://oregonstate.edu/~schmimat/light2.gif

The front of the light itself is not sealed from the elements at this point.

[drew935]

It has eyes. i like it. No way of mounting it without having to cut your bumper? For the covers, maybe use plexiglas? Look forward to seeing your finished project. ;)

[ALTRNTV]

Do you have any night shots?

[S14DB]

What's that shroud made out of?

[csdcowboy]

The final housing will have scratch-resistant lexan over it.

The shroud is made out of aluminum tape (not Duct tape)...it's like foil with a sticky side...pretty good stuff.

Here's a bad night shot. They needed to be adjusted at the point when I took this...the driver's side light is tilted.

http://oregonstate.edu/~schmimat/night.gif

[ALTRNTV]

Damn, that looks pretty good. I wonder how much better it would be when it's all done.

[Edd240]

wow coming out pretty cool...reminds me of the nfsu2 game cuz on the s13 u can put projector lights on it...not that i still play video games or anything :naughtyd:

[drew935]

wow coming out pretty cool...reminds me of the nfsu2 game cuz on the s13 u can put projector lights on it...not that i still play video games or anything :naughtyd:
yeah you can do that on nsfu1 as well. But they look like the eastbear kit.

[csdcowboy]

Eastbears bulge out a little bit from the line of the hood, don't they? Haven't seen a pic for a while.

[Neejay]

Don't those beam patterns shine just in the front? I know it isnt finished yet, but with that design, is there a way you can make it project more on the sides?

[ALTRNTV]

Probably just a little trimming on the sides of the housing.

[603240sx]

i think when its finshed it will look chill . dont let the fuckin hatters get you down. and i cant wait to see how they turn out.

[cheap_sticker05]

I like it! Makes me wish my zenki HID beam pattern was that good. Can't wait to see the final product.

[URBootLegDrifterS]

Your light output looks aite. What kind of hids are you using? Is it 4300k?

[SochBAT]

Nice setup. I'd rock that.

+1 for creativity

Forget those trolls, i bet they've got bellbottom skirts. :wiggle:

[csdcowboy]

The beam pattern covers everything I see out of the windshield, so it works for me. The main part of the beam as it crosses the bumper is really only about 4" wide, so I'm not losing much.

Bootleg - They're BMW E46 Bi-xenon projectors/ballasts/ignitors with Philips 4300k bulbs (I think...been a while since I bought them).

Sochbat - Remember I almost bought those 300zx housings from you? Hahah...kinda wish I had, with all this damned work!!

[projekt_s13]

The final housing will have scratch-resistant lexan over it.

The shroud is made out of aluminum tape (not Duct tape)...it's like foil with a sticky side...pretty good stuff.

Here's a bad night shot. They needed to be adjusted at the point when I took this...the driver's side light is tilted.

http://oregonstate.edu/~schmimat/night.gif

DAMN!! LOOKS GOOD

[Nan Desu Ka?!]

Wow, that rocks man. just curious how much the e46 stuff cost ya? i was looking to get the silvia front, just as an excuse to get some HID's but this might be a better alternative. =D thanks in advance! looks damn good. clean cutoff and great output, just want im looking for!

[csdcowboy]

Well the projectors, ballasts, bulbs, and ignitors were $300 at www.hidplanet.com from a private party. They have some available through the site as well.

Fiberglass stuff....I dunno, got it at Knecht's this last summer...I'd guess like $75?

And LOTS AND LOTS AND LOTS of time...if that's worth anything to ya.

Personally, the Silvia front end would be easier, I think. You can take out one of the sets of projectors in those and put in HIDs whenever you want (though you will need a new wiring harness for the HIDs). I've just got so much time and thought invested in these housings it's kinda ridiculous. I've also got a couple holes in my bumper! haha

But the light output is totally worth it...

[240silvia]

$300???? Where did you get that price? I'd like to know b/c I'm going to buy another set of HID's soon. I got this off of their site.

Hella/Philips Generation-3 Package:

If you are looking for a complete Ballast/Bulb package solution for your HID needs, please consider our Hella/Philips Ballast Package. This option gives you a cost effective parts kit to replace critical H.I.D. parts that may have been damaged.

The package includes:


(2) Hella/Philips LVQ-212 G3 Ballasts

(2) D2S HID Bulbs

(2) Ballast connectors

(2) Ballast Covers/Mounts
Price $410.00 $379.99 + shipping

[S14DB]

I think he means he got them off the Forums there as the Bi-Xeons are a lot more than that.

[my hatch kills your S15]

i love this thread.... :fruit:


:lockd:

[ALTRNTV]

Personally, the Silvia front end would be easier, I think. You can take out one of the sets of projectors in those and put in HIDs whenever you want (though you will need a new wiring harness for the HIDs).

It would be 10x easier. Just the fact that they already have "projectors" and all you do is just replace them with the units you have now.


i love this thread.... :fruit:


:lockd:


OK this BS stops now. Anymore personal or OT attacks and this Thread gets locked and the User pinked.

See you in 3 months.

[csdcowboy]

Have you orgy elsewhere, please.


I got my setup off the classifieds/for sale section on hidplanet. I just lucked out with the price, I guess :D

[nrg]

Function over fashion :bigok: