Hip Hop Heads: KRS ONE gets heated at Stanford

[jessfx]

Echo and I thought that this would be worth sharing...

KRSONE has done two lectures with Hip Hop Congress in recent weeks. One at UCI on the 22nd of Feb. and the other at San Jo State on the 2nd. Anyhow, KRS gives props to Hip Hop Congress at UCI (vid (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V2f_60JYXb0)).

There was this one cat, Adisa, who wanted to debate with him in 04 or 05. KRS rejected him. Adisa's "letter to KRS" (http://www.allhiphop.com/editorial/?ID=194) and KRS' reply (http://www.allhiphop.com/editorial/?ID=195). At Stanford, Adisa's in the audience, calls KRS out, KRS recognized who he was and was like "You what I wanna do right now, right?" and Adiso was like "Have a debate?" and KRS ONE said, "I wanna jump across the table and beat your fuckin' ass!"

Here are the links for audio:
"KRS-One at Stanford University, Threatening Adisa Banjoko" (http://www.odeo.com/audio/834430/view)
Part 1 (http://www.archive.org/download/KRSOne_at_Stanford_Audio_Fragment_1_of_3/KRSgoesoffpt2a.mp3) | Part 2 (http://www.archive.org/download/KRSOne_at_Stanford_Audio_Fragment_2_of_3/KRSgoesoffpt2b.mp3) | Part 3 (http://www.archive.org/download/KRSOne_at_Stanford_Audio_Fragment_3_of_3/KRSgoesoffpt2c.mp3)

Apparently, after all this craziness they had to shut down because it was getting TOO crazy.

Did anyone go to Stanford for this?

[EchoOfSilence]

I strongly recommend reading at least Adisa's editorial before listening to the sound clips. You'd be lost if you didn't. KRS's reply is sorta optional for background.

The first sound clip ("KRS-One at Stanford University, Threatening Adisa Banjoko") contains the frustration buildup on KRS's part, and then the threat to Adisa.
Parts 1, 2, and 3 were recorded after the first clip, in which KRS calms down and the debate/talk seems to resume.

There has always been talk about KRS's speech and beliefs as being self-centered and arrogant, and also shit about his Temple of Hip-Hop. But BOTH sides bring up good points, although KRS does say some pretty bad things.

This is premium shit about what's going on in the Hip-Hop community. Discussion about this would be appreciated.

[A Spec Products]

i think KRS can be a bit self centered at times, but he sorta can be that way

i mean that dude is real OG in the game, and one of the leaders of the TRUE hip hop movement

i think hes here in concert this week, i want to go

BOOM BAP!

[infinitexsound]

such a self proclaimed leader should be a martyr for the faith...... and to those who believe in hip-hop shall weep... sorry to say krs one does not define the cluture as a whole... what makes hip hop is the people... not just one...

its sad that when one person trys to get a point across they are automatically cut off... worse thing i ever heard...

hip hop should never be about politics... its a sub culture lifestyle....just like hippies, metal heads or what ever...

[SimpleSexy180]

what makes hip hop is the people... not just one...



very true, but it sucks when you see people ignoring real hiphop in turn for some track that took 1 minute make that is played on the radio about 5 billion times.

[L1ama]

I only like Tupac, and a few other good rap artists, but rap got messed up with 50c, and other "yo yo hoes" type of rap.

[EchoOfSilence]

lol 'rap's been being fucked up since the 90's.

i also have a little beef with people that ONLY like Tupac. Cmon, there's more shit out there.

[khmerguy618]

That was a very well written article.

[infinitexsound]

i listen to alot of hip hop, maint stream hip hop and underground... yes there is a diffrence... and rap... and gangsta rap... the good stuff when death row actually had a reputation for doing some great work... but most of all i enjoy listening to my Bay Area music... because its just better then whats airing daily...

and i listen to many other kinds of music..

the thing with HH is that it suppose to be about unity...
krs states we should disregard all else genre's and live the life of HH... which is wack... because theres many infleuences that make HH..

[MrBrightSide]

lol 'rap's been being fucked up since the 90's.

i also have a little beef with people that ONLY like Tupac. Cmon, there's more shit out there.

The early 90's to about 96-97 was the best IMO, but right when cash money came in the late 90's thats when things start falling apart...:faint:

[infinitexsound]

nothing really fell apart its just that, certain songs were gettin more radio play... doesnt matter tho cause real listeners always find ways of getting good music...
thats what live shows are all about

[ManoNegra]

The early 90's to about 96-97 was the best IMO, but right when cash money came in the late 90's thats when things start falling apart...:faint:

For me 86-early 90s was the golden age of hip hop.
With very little radio play then, being able to rock a crowd live was of
outmost importance (as it well should be).
The 4 elements of Hip Hop were still in synergy (DJing, MCing, Breaking and Graff) and many styles still re-hashed today were created then.
You had storytellers (Slick Rick, Doug E Fresh) and wordsmiths (Kool Moe Dee, Big Daddy Kane), technicians (Rakim).
For a moment, with the emergence of the afro-centric and political awarness moments, we saw a glimpse of what Hip Hop could become as a tool for positive change.
But then commericial rap, gangsta rap, and studio-made artists put an end to it all. Enter the dark ages of hip hop, the mid to late 90s. And I regard 2 Pac as a leader of this descent.

I agree with what was said before, KRS contradicts himself a lot. Chuck D would make a better speaker when it comes to debating the politics of Hip Hop. But the fact remains, KRS remains of of the freshest and dopest voices of Hip Hop. Any would be MC must take Hip Hop 101 and get the nod from professor KRS before deeming his/herself worthy of rocking a mike live.

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[jessfx]

For me 86-early 90s was the golden age of hip hop.
With very little radio play then, being able to rock a crowd live was of
outmost importance (as it well should be).
The 4 elements of Hip Hop were still in synergy (DJing, MCing, Breaking and Graff) and many styles still re-hashed today were created then.
You had storytellers (Slick Rick, Doug E Fresh) and wordsmiths (Kool Moe Dee, Big Daddy Kane), technicians (Rakim).
For a moment, with the emergence of the afro-centric and political awarness moments, we saw a glimpse of what Hip Hop could become as a tool for positive change.
But then commericial rap, gangsta rap, and studio-made artists put an end to it all. Enter the dark ages of hip hop, the mid to late 90s. And I regard 2 Pac as a leader of this descent.

I agree with what was said before, KRS contradicts himself a lot. Chuck D would make a better speaker when it comes to debating the politics of Hip Hop. But the fact remains, KRS remains of of the freshest and dopest voices of Hip Hop. Any would be MC must take Hip Hop 101 and get the nod from professor KRS before deeming his/herself worthy of rocking a mike live.

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I agree with you on the type of evolution of hip hop that you put out. I love Hip Hop from its origins to the 90s. The Golden Age of Hip Hop with fresh beats, dope rhymes and a fat essence of culture with the elements. I love KRS-ONE. I love the fact that KRS lives breathes and dies Hip Hop... it sorta scares me though. =x It seems that he's so elitist and extremist but I guess that's what passion is... going to the extremes.

[ALTRNTV]

"Hip-hop isn't played on the radio."

[ManoNegra]

"Hip-hop isn't played on the radio."

I agree with you 100%
Some of the stuff being played on the radio nowadays isn't as bad as it used to be;
there is a decent balance of garbage (50 cent, club music) and good music (Gorillaz, Kanye)...
but where's the MF Doom, Madlib, Talib, Blackalicious, Jurassic 5, Fatlip?

[ALTRNTV]

True.

For all you SoCal heads, the only station I listen to is KDAY 93.5
I love the music they play. Of course they have to play mainstream "hip-hop," but when they play mixes, they bust out some shit I haven't heard in a hot second. I know DJ Icy-Ice personally, so it's cool that a radio station still stays true to the roots of hip-hop.

[ManoNegra]

I hear good things about KDAY
When I get the change (or remember) I listen to KCRW (internet at work) for their eclestic taste in music ... and KROQ in the mornings of course.
Most fresh music usually gets played at odd hours of the night on obscure shows.. pity.

[that180guy]

^^ wish we had sum good hiphop on the radio up here in the bay. :( thers are bomb ass bay shit(which gets repetitive wen u here "ghost ride the whip 180980X times in a day. even tho i think that songs dope).
but honestly,
krs one is dope, but i never really listened to em'
sounds lika og kanye to me, hahahaha

[reefer1114]

i saw krs-one a couple weeks back along with jedi-mind-tricks. krs is aight. if you see him youll hear him talking about fuck mtv and fuck bet and all that. dont know if he should be threatening kids like that though hahaha... i doubt that guy can scrap haha

[ManoNegra]

It's true... KRS sounds more like a caricature of his former self nowadays. I don't mean that in a bad way but to really appreciate his contribution to Hip Hop one gotta listen to the BDP albums and think about what who/what else was out at the time. And Return of the Boom Bap wasn't bad either.

[jOeHaCk98]

JMT is sick... not really feeling aesop anymore. atmosphere, sage francis,qtip,alkaholics, talib, and j5 have been in pretty heavy rotation these days.

[jOeHaCk98]

JMT is sick... not really feeling aesop anymore. atmosphere, sage francis,qtip,alkaholics, talib, and j5 have been in pretty heavy rotation these days.

[jessfx]

True.

For all you SoCal heads, the only station I listen to is KDAY 93.5
I love the music they play. Of course they have to play mainstream "hip-hop," but when they play mixes, they bust out some shit I haven't heard in a hot second. I know DJ Icy-Ice personally, so it's cool that a radio station still stays true to the roots of hip-hop.

KDAY is decent compared to the other stations. They play some old school shit that I love to hear on the radio. From what I've heard from many people, the KDAY TODAY is nothing like KDAY from WAAAAAY BACK in the DAY. :-/

Akadem... Hmm.. You know Icy-Ice, eh?...... Would you happen to know Mark Luv?

[EchoOfSilence]

word, i was about to ask the same question.

[ALTRNTV]

I only know Icy-Ice, since he spins at the club I promote for.

[Romeyo07]

To me, REAL hip hop remains underground-ish. I say ish because you must have an eye for it to see it publicly. I don't see mainstream rappers adding to the hiphop lifestyle, but rather breaking down what was built by the founders. Compare what was rapped about back in the day vs. now. To me, THAT was hip hop music, that's what inspired me to suceed in life, that's what moved me to become something. I'm not saying hip hop was my life, however, I am saying that it has influenced me to become who I am.

KRS is self centered in my opinion...and I really don't listen (music and speaches) to him anymore. I guess I've stepped away from the Hip Hop lifestyle, but love the fact that there are others who still believe in it, and its potential. I think KRS has the right motives, wrong approach.

[jessfx]

I agree with you 100%
Some of the stuff being played on the radio nowadays isn't as bad as it used to be;
there is a decent balance of garbage (50 cent, club music) and good music (Gorillaz, Kanye)...
but where's the MF Doom, Madlib, Talib, Blackalicious, Jurassic 5, Fatlip?

big record companies have the money to pay for their airplay. or at least that's what i think. i hear a good song come out in a mix every once in awhile.

[that180guy]

JMT = sickness
im with romeyo, i grew up on more alternative and such, had a punk rock phase in middle skool back in the mid- late 90s (Fuck that makes me sound old) but even tho, ive always been down with hiphop. hiphop indeed has indeed played a great role in my life into who i am now.
HipHop fo lyfe.
what i got playin on winamp most of the time;
-undergroud "ish" that legit hiphop
-straight alternative from offspring to avenged sevenfold(just heard of them none that new trendy emo pop goes punk shit)
-house beats
-some mainstream stuff
-ocassional rnb
-jpop/cpop/kpop stuff seldomly

[Romeyo07]

my mix is def. mixed up

Mos Def
Frank Sinatra
Common
Dean Martin
Beanie Man
Pillar

[jessfx]

I like a lot of 90s hip hop like Poor Righteous Teachers, Tribe, Organized Konfusion... Nas' Illmatic, Percee P (Echo knows what I'm talkin' about when it comes to Percee P)... Wu-Tang :D Agh, so many styles and different sounds. I love it!

I am eclectic though--house, break beat, afro-beat, funk, jazz, rock/classic rock... etc. etc. etc. I <3 music. :D

[U12Bluebird]

British hip-hop is where it's at now.

[jessfx]

Did you know MF Doom is a Brit? I was like WTF. Born in London, raised in NY. O_o

'Brit' came into my mind and MF Doom's name set off a light bulb. >:]

[U12Bluebird]

That's a shame.

Everyone knows the hip hop scene in London is far superior to NYC anyday of the week.

Dizzee Rascal and Lethal B ring a bell to anyone?