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ibanezxguy
05-26-2002, 11:40 AM
Is it possible to have a sequential tranny made for the 240sx? anybody out there know? Anybody even know what makes the transmission work? Just wondering thanks
mistert
05-26-2002, 12:06 PM
there are several retrofit systems available that'll give you a sequential action on your stock system...
http://www.takakaira.com/php/template.php3?id=185&cat=2
thats the 5zigen version that'll let you switch between sequential mode and normal shifting, it looks pretty cool
http://www.ikeya-f.co.jp/english/index.html
here's the page for the ikeya sequential shifter, i dunno if you can get those in the US, would probably have to have someone bring one over for you from japan
ibanezxguy
05-26-2002, 12:22 PM
what about a full tranny? i have a slush-o-matic... and its killing me... should i just convert it to manual? or is it really a waste of money? But i can get nissan parts 10% over factory cost.
Tuck&Poke
05-26-2002, 01:08 PM
getting a sequential really has not point but a manual conversion is always good.
wherezmytofu
05-26-2002, 07:27 PM
for dd sequential= waste of gas!
transient
05-26-2002, 07:42 PM
</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (wherezmytofu @ May 26 2002,9:27)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">for dd sequential= waste of gas!</td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'>
I can see it being a pain in the ass, but how exactly would it waste gas?
wherezmytofu
05-26-2002, 07:50 PM
my borther is able 2 get like 30mpg constantly with his gs-r....cuz he lets it ride on nutral as much as possible....being that it's harder 2 switch from driving gears 2 nutral u'll do it less = waste gas <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/cool.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':cool:'>
transient
05-26-2002, 08:38 PM
<img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/dozingoff.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':zzz:'> that's like a penny pincher thing. It has nothing to do with the actual mileage of the car. I never switch to neutral. I'd rather save my brakes a bit then gas.
rotaryknight
05-26-2002, 09:08 PM
You want to put a sequential tranny on your car for the street? Whoa way to may option mags. Seqential trannies are not really a daily driving tranny. Have you ever driven or been in a car that had one? There's a nice wirrr wirr wiirrr clunk when ya put it in to first gear.
ibanezxguy
05-27-2002, 01:19 AM
yeah MR-S thats were the idea came from.... i was hoping somebody would tell me that tranny my possible work for my car with different gears or something else. But i knew it wouldnt with toyota and mine being nissan but yeah a daily driver
DrDubbleB
05-27-2002, 01:02 PM
Sequential trannys also tend to be much more expensive. I saw a NISMO sequential tranny (allbeit for a GT-R) for sale for $15,000...I'm sure one for the 240 wouldn't be anywhere near that price, but then again, a regular skyline tranny is nowhere near that price either...
I say just do an auto-manual conversion, either that, or trade your car off for one that is stick...
tnord
05-27-2002, 01:32 PM
why would you want a sequential over a standard 5sp? what are you, an F1 driver?
wherezmytofu
05-27-2002, 01:37 PM
</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (tnord @ May 26 2002,3:32)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">why would you want a sequential over a standard 5sp? what are you, an F1 driver?</td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'>
i think he thinks he is a f1 driver <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/sigh.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':rolleyes:'>
MarketPlayer
05-27-2002, 02:51 PM
There are two reasons why i would get a sequential tranny. 1) Not many people have them, so it would defenately be different. 2) I really love to shift as fast a possible, and occassionally mis gears or get caught up in the H pattern and miss a gear. Sequential would be a much faster shifting time and accuracy. Does anyone know if the Skyline GT-S w/ the RB20DET came w/ a sequential tranny? I really want to swap to a rb just for it's smooth power band, and was hopping i could get a sequential tranny with it?
This is just for those people who enjoy bashing people before they get a chance to explain were they are comming from. FUCK YOU! It is just not needed. If you don't understand why someone wants to do a modification, then just ask, dont call them names ans shit! I really did love the way this board opperated a few months ago. Now there seems to be more and more flamming going on. Lets try and bring out the best in nissan enthusiasts so that once Nissan replaces honda in the import tunning scene, it won't be the same kind of childesh attitudes! Thanks you, that is all!
-zac
transient
05-27-2002, 03:13 PM
</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (MarketPlayer @ May 27 2002,4:51)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">This is just for those people who enjoy bashing people before they get a chance to explain were they are comming from. FUCK YOU! It is just not needed. If you don't understand why someone wants to do a modification, then just ask, dont call them names ans shit!</td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'>
Hear hear! What the hell is up with you guys lately? First it's a major bashing on someone that thinks they want to get a 240 after having hondas. Now it's someone that's asking questions about a sequential transmission. Both of them were just asking for info, and you guys bashed the hell out of em! Seriously, get of your fucking thrones and help the guy out. Don't just tell him he should lay off the drifter mags and shit.
Where do you think you guys would be if no-one helped you out or steered you in the right direction? I know it was a hell of a lot easier for you to ask a question on this board when you guys first joined, how about some respect for others to be able to do the same?
ibanezxguy
05-27-2002, 10:14 PM
i wish i was an F! driver. I just figured it would be bad ass to have one, and im pretty sure id be the first, if not the only person to have a car like that. I guess from now on ill just be a rice boy and slap stickers on my car and think i get 50 extra hp from it.
rotaryknight
05-27-2002, 10:34 PM
</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (MarketPlayer @ May 27 2002,3:51)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">There are two reasons why i would get a sequential tranny. 1) Not many people have them, so it would defenately be different. 2) I really love to shift as fast a possible, and occassionally mis gears or get caught up in the H pattern and miss a gear. Sequential would be a much faster shifting time and accuracy. Does anyone know if the Skyline GT-S w/ the RB20DET came w/ a sequential tranny? I really want to swap to a rb just for it's smooth power band, and was hopping i could get a sequential tranny with it?
This is just for those people who enjoy bashing people before they get a chance to explain were they are comming from. FUCK YOU! It is just not needed. If you don't understand why someone wants to do a modification, then just ask, dont call them names ans shit! I really did love the way this board opperated a few months ago. Now there seems to be more and more flamming going on. Lets try and bring out the best in nissan enthusiasts so that once Nissan replaces honda in the import tunning scene, it won't be the same kind of childesh attitudes! Thanks you, that is all!
-zac</td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'>
Well fuck you too...and no the RB20DET GT-S did not have a sequential tranny.
And no a sequential tranny is not very streetable. Why does everyone think the sequential tranny or dog ear tranny or what ever they think they see in Option magazine is just so easy to install and drive.
Yes you can drive anything on the road if you really want to. But no a sequential tranny is not for the street but for more racing applications.
The HKS sequential tranny for my FD is 8k...that's more than most 240sx cost.
Ni5mo180SX
05-28-2002, 12:49 AM
rotaryknight in a fight with someone else?? <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':D'> lol. One popular, but still reasonably priced option is the Ikeya Formula seq. shifter. Its not fully seq. but I can see how it still holds advantages over 5 speed in certains aspects. Check it out on there website. It looks like they translated most of it to english but if you need help with any of the japanese let me know. (but dont tell rotaryknight because I only "look" at the pictures <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/wink.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=';)'> ) And yes, this version is street friendly.
Edit - Already got mentioned.
rotaryknight
05-28-2002, 01:06 AM
Well actually there is no fight here...not yet.
tnord
05-29-2002, 11:48 PM
flaming? who's flaming? i don't see anyone calling anybody names or anything, unless you count my F1 driver comment.
good lord, just because somebody doesn't agree with another doesn't mean they're flaming them. quit being such sensative 5 yr old girls. the guy who asked the damn question was the first to toss out the FUCK YOU.
all i did was ask why, i could've pointed out various reasons why i think this is dumb, but i didn't, i just asked why.
if the cost of getting and installing one of these things is worth it just to be "different," then by all means do it. but that's the only reason to try and accomplish this.
feel free to flame me, i won't cry about it.
boosteds14
05-30-2002, 08:29 AM
blahbblahbalhablahbalhablahbalh <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/sleeping.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':zzzz:'> <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/sleeping.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':zzzz:'> <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/sleeping.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':zzzz:'> <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/sleeping.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':zzzz:'>
tnord
05-30-2002, 09:45 AM
</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (boosteds14 @ May 31 2002,08:29)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">blahbblahbalhablahbalhablahbalh <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/sleeping.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':zzzz:'> <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/sleeping.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':zzzz:'> <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/sleeping.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':zzzz:'> <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/sleeping.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':zzzz:'></td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'>
haha
well said <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':D'>
boosteds14
05-30-2002, 10:44 AM
reality check, your not going to get a sequential tranny for a 240sx, unless ur racing light to light with more than 400rwhp and know how to gear match and dont mind the loud grinding and clunck sound from the tranny, ur aint going to get it so dont worry about it.
u would need to take out a mortage to own one
HippoSleek
05-30-2002, 10:48 AM
</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (Ni5mo180SX @ May 28 2002,01:49)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">rotaryknight in a fight with someone else?? <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':D'> lol. One popular, but still reasonably priced option is the Ikeya Formula seq. shifter. Its not fully seq. but I can see how it still holds advantages over 5 speed in certains aspects. Check it out on there website. It looks like they translated most of it to english but if you need help with any of the japanese let me know. (but dont tell rotaryknight because I only "look" at the pictures <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/wink.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=';)'> ) And yes, this version is street friendly.
Edit - Already got mentioned.</td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'>
The IKEA shifter really offers no benefits over a trandition 5 sp. unless you can't operate a shifter. You still have to use the clutch for all shifts (unless you like metal shavings <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/wow.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':0'> ). That thing just replaces your shifter (which I think can't be a good thing!<img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/wink.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=';)'>. You also don't get whirr, clink, whirr noises b/c until you are paying $10K or so, you don't get dog ear gears in the crashbox.
Mark
-who thinks that anything less than a fully spec'ed race car with a sequential transmission (or shifter if you are a poor man) is just a soccer dad automatic driving wannabe waiting to happen <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':D'>
FastNissan
05-30-2002, 07:02 PM
http://www.quaifeamerica.com/gears/sylvia.htm
Not a sequential, but I am sure they would make you one.
Dog engagement means that first gear is down to the left so that you don't accidentally engage it while racing.
HippoSleek
05-31-2002, 07:36 AM
</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (FastNissan @ May 30 2002,8:02)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">http://www.quaifeamerica.com/gears/sylvia.htm
Not a sequential, but I am sure they would make you one.
Dog engagement means that first gear is down to the left so that you don't accidentally engage it while racing.</td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'>
Hmmm... made me go to yahoo on that one <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':)'>
Apparently there are two uses of the term "dog" in transmission speak - dog engagement (which is first down and left) and dog gears (which are square cut). Bizarre, no?
Overall explanation (http://www.indiacar.com/index2.asp?pagename=http://www.indiacar.com/nfs/technical/trans.htm)
IKEA shifter page - look at bottom right (http://www.ikeya-f.co.jp/english/)
MarketPlayer
05-31-2002, 04:36 PM
</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (tnord @ May 30 2002,12:48)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">flaming? who's flaming? i don't see anyone calling anybody names or anything, unless you count my F1 driver comment.
good lord, just because somebody doesn't agree with another doesn't mean they're flaming them. quit being such sensative 5 yr old girls. the guy who asked the damn question was the first to toss out the FUCK YOU.
all i did was ask why, i could've pointed out various reasons why i think this is dumb, but i didn't, i just asked why.
if the cost of getting and installing one of these things is worth it just to be "different," then by all means do it. but that's the only reason to try and accomplish this.
feel free to flame me, i won't cry about it.</td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'>
Okay, i just reread the thread, and i guess no one was really being assholes, but you could have come across a little more friendly! It seems as though, just b/c you are on the computer you are instantly more confident, and bullyish *spelling*. I mean if this person was right up in your face asking you a question, you wouldn't just be like, "your a bumbass" b/c most of the time that will get you fucked up! But hey, i guess since no one can see you, then that makes it okay to be an asshole?
Tnord,
don't think i am just talking about you in this poste, but all people who love to disrespect people online, just b/c there is no conciquences! Here is a better way you could have come across your point. "I don't think they have any for the 240sx. btw I dont think it is worth while to swap in a sequential tranny b/c...."
I may be wrong, but sequential transmissions are used all the time, by acura and other such luxury motor companies. They aren't true sequential trannies, but they are push forward for lower gear, pull back for higher gear. therefore making it SEQUENTIAL, and very streetable. Also maybe this person wanted to build a racecar, but i really doubt it, and knew about how noisy the trannies are, but still wanted one. He just wanted to know if they made them!
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