Looking for a good head gasket...

[sr20newb]

Anyone have any referals of good head gaskets? Looking to upgrade my sr20 when i swap in a new block..

[Dousan_PG]

apex'i
hands down.

[sr20newb]

ill look into it , will i have to buy a whole kit with studs and such? or can i just replace the head gasket? sorry im not very knowligable with this.

[wootwoot]

I'm a Cometic fan

[TampaLinc]

From everyone I talked to the Apex’i is the best, but when I was looking for one they were back ordered for months. I asked Scott (aka: Enthalpy) what he recommends and he said if they don’t have Apex’i in stock the Power Enterprise is the exact same design.

[sideview_180sx]

you want to upgrade the headgasket, yet you do not know what is involved??? You should do some more learning before you drop some cash.

[drifter808]

im running the apexi and its a great headgasket. As for studs it would be good to upgrade but its not necessary.i didn't do it. I think it says in the FSM if the headstuds are longer than a certain amount then they should be replaced.

[sr20newb]

Thank you so much for the info!!

[RSP13-Sideways]

I went with a GReddy 1.2mm 88mm metal headgasket. Even though people tell horror stories about them, I've yet to see a problem. I'm running a GT2871R with some pretty good boost.

I did change my head steads though, I replaced them with ARP studs. Besides that, I TRUST GReddy (haha pun intended).

[fliprayzin240sx]

Im changing his headgasket. I told him go Cometic just cuz its the cheapest one out there price wise and I havent heard or seen any horrible thing bout it. Im running a Apex'i 1.5mm myself but most JDM HGs are about $100 more than Cometic price wise.

[kazuo]

+1 APEX'i.

DO NOT GET THE GReddy/TRUST HEAD GASKET!

That shit is uberdeath. Search on FA and you'll see it failing left and right.

It is generally accepted that APEX'i is best.

[NemeGuero]

I use Cometic. ka though...

[sunnys14]

u cant go wrong with COMETIC. works great for me... KA also

[S14DB]

Nice HG is worthless without upgraded bolts/studs. They'll just stretch and blow the HG out the side.

[NemeGuero]

ARP studs!! KA head uses the same as Saturn main studs.

[sciamop]

Save a few bucks and get a used one.

[sr20newb]

has anyone heard anything about enjuku head gaskets? so it seems as though i will have to upgrade the studs correct? heres the linke to the enjuku http://www.enjukuracing.com/ it includes Enjuku Head Swap Package Nissan SR20DET. Package will include: Custom 1.0mm metal head gasket, ARP Head Studs, Exhaust manifold gasket and S13 Valve Cover Gasket. Get all of these parts at a package price.

for 309.99, good price?

[wootwoot]

not really...Enjuku=expensive

[Annoying Eric]

Cometic is by far the best...


Enjuku's "CUSTOM" gasket is cometic if i remember correctly..

[sr20newb]

thank you guys for all the info im going to check up on these, so that enjuku kit is kind of exspensive?

[S14DB]

$309.99 is kinda $
http://storesense.megawebservers.com/HS318/Detail.bok?no=114

[RSP13-Sideways]

+1 APEX'i.

DO NOT GET THE GReddy/TRUST HEAD GASKET!

That shit is uberdeath. Search on FA and you'll see it failing left and right.

It is generally accepted that APEX'i is best.

Check on FreshAlloy for blown APEX'i metal headgaskets, you'll find them on there too.

GReddy/TRUST gaskets are not bad, or so from my personal experience. I've heard the horror stories but what company do you know that never had a product that's gone faulty in the industry we're in? Running a GReddy/Cometic/Apex'i headgasket with too much boost and no studs will turn into a bad day regardless of the brand.

I don't go with what people say because it's a small group of people that have had problems, but so many more that haven't. You don't see people posting on FA or any forum with "hey my GReddy/Cometic/Apexi/stock headgasket has been working great!"

Bottom line you ask? GReddy/TRUST gaskets are great in my opinion.

[kazuo]

Here's one example:
http://forums.freshalloy.com/ubbthreads/showflat.php?Cat=&Board=UBB9&Number=67706965&Forum=All_Forums&Words=2397&Match=Username&Searchpage=9&Limit=25&Old=allposts&Main=67706127&Search=true#Post67706965


And the cream of the crop:
http://forums.freshalloy.com/ubbthreads/showflat.php?Cat=&Board=UBB9&Number=67876616&Forum=All_Forums&Words=2751&Match=Username&Searchpage=14&Limit=25&Old=allposts&Main=67875633&Search=true#Post67876616

Thank you, come again

If Enthalpy, someone who is proven in this game that we call tuning the SR20DET engine, and has more experience with a wide variety of motor setups, says the GReddy HG is garbage, its garbage.

End of discussion

[eyustfu]

I actually ran the greddy 1.2mm headgasket on my previous car w/ ARP studs and i had absolutely no problems with it at 18psi on a GT2871R

[Slip&Sliden 240]

I got the enjuku kit, but I only paid $250.00. I havent had any problems yet. Yes it is a cometic head gasket.

[NemeGuero]

I paid $80 shipped for my (KA) cometic.

[sr20newb]

hmm..i see so far from what i have read greddy HGs seem to be very contrversal...I have another question for you all..do you think using the stock head gasket would be a bad idea? Or would it just be worth it to throw down the extra buck for a nice HG?

[sr20newb]

a cometic max bore is only 88.5?

[RSP13-Sideways]

If Enthalpy, someone who is proven in this game that we call tuning the SR20DET engine, and has more experience with a wide variety of motor setups, says the GReddy HG is garbage, its garbage.

End of discussion

The examples you shown proved nothing. There were two people on the forums with problems using the GReddy. One guy blew out 2 GReddy headgaskets and on his 3rd headgasket, sounds like he's having problems elsewhere. Maybe too much boost, or he's a retard. Who knows his post proves ambiguous at best.

And because Enthalpy says the head gasket isn't good doesn't mean we all have to believe it is. Tell that to Kawabata Masato in the D1 GReddy S15 and see what he says. What you're doing is an appeal to authority, just because your doctor says your illness is caused by a stomach flu doesn't mean it's always the case? But then again, you're easily persuaded it seems like perhaps if you have had EXPERIENCE with GReddy headgaskets or any gaskets for that matter, you could be more trusted. Do you have any personal experience and not friends cars?

I run a GReddy in my car with ARP studs with a GT2871R at 18-20 PSI and there is no problems what so ever. Car is mint...if it breaks I'll post, if it doesn't I'm not going to post.

[wootwoot]

Enthalpy is not the all end say all on everything SR.
I will still run Cometic because of their amazing reputation in the domestic market and it being cheaper then super JDM companies.
I would also like to say that the amount of back yard mechanics we have on here could make any headgasket blow out simply from improper installation.
and YES, it is worth to upgrade for sure.

[RSP13-Sideways]

hmm..i see so far from what i have read greddy HGs seem to be very contrversal...I have another question for you all..do you think using the stock head gasket would be a bad idea? Or would it just be worth it to throw down the extra buck for a nice HG?

Yes PLEASE throw down for a new metal headgasket! Don't skimp out on it if you plan on running a larger turbo or more boost down the road. Save yourself money and time now if the motors out of the car.

I was going to go with Cometic but decided on GReddy/TRUST/Apex'i after much thought but GReddy was in stock so I opted for it. Just go with a good brand, Enjukus price is way too inflated.

[phreze]

I have GReddy/Trust and it works fine, never posted saying that it did but never heard of problems till I read this thread. Only running 8-11psi on stock turbo for now. If it breaks, I would post to as I wouldn't expect it to.

[boosteds13]

I would also like to say that the amount of back yard mechanics we have on here could make any headgasket blow out simply from improper installation.
and YES, it is worth to upgrade for sure.
+1

The biggest cause of all these headgaskets blowing whether it be GReddy, Apex'i, Cometic... is improper preparation of the mating surfaces. The head and block must have a perfectly flat and perfectly smooth surface if a MLS gasket is used. This doesn't mean pull off your head and use a plastic scraper and some mild solvent. It means RESURFACING. Some people have claimed using a litttle copper gasket spray can be used to make up for minor imperfections in the surface, but personally, I wouldn't trust it.

[kazuo]

Obviously I wasn't basing the conclusion that the HG is garbage off of two posts or two specific instances -- a search will reveal theres way more people than that who've had problems using the GReddy HG, and thats just on FreshAlloy.

Also, as far as trusting a guy who drives a car in D1GP, and a guy who's been building/tuning SR20DET motors for years, and is highly respected as far as his knowledge, skill, and ability, I will trust the latter, not the former, when it comes to which headgasket to use in my engine build.

Especially when the former is sponsored by GReddy.

Nice try, but rather than calling me "gullible" and "easily persuaded," perhaps you should stick to discussing the actual matter at hand.

Further, it's not like there's zero posts about people with bad APEX'i gaskets. I've counted one. :)

Of course, one versus many... which would you choose?

Some people dont have problems with SS Autochrome, a lot of people do, does that mean I am going to buy SS Autochrome? No, because the fitment and build quality is shit. Just cause some people don't have problems with it, doesn't mean its all good. The majority of people DO have problems, and that matters. A LOT.

As far as personal experience goes, have YOU had any personal experience with APEX'i headgaskets?

Didn't think so.

So, again, how is that relevant? You have no experience with APEX'i HG, I have none with GReddy HG, perhaps we should both just end this disucssion immediately, as we are no longer qualified to discuss it, per your line.

My motor? APEX'i, I wouldn't use anything else.

I'm done

The examples you shown proved nothing. There were two people on the forums with problems using the GReddy. One guy blew out 2 GReddy headgaskets and on his 3rd headgasket, sounds like he's having problems elsewhere. Maybe too much boost, or he's a retard. Who knows his post proves ambiguous at best.

And because Enthalpy says the head gasket isn't good doesn't mean we all have to believe it is. Tell that to Kawabata Masato in the D1 GReddy S15 and see what he says. What you're doing is an appeal to authority, just because your doctor says your illness is caused by a stomach flu doesn't mean it's always the case? But then again, you're easily persuaded it seems like perhaps if you have had EXPERIENCE with GReddy headgaskets or any gaskets for that matter, you could be more trusted. Do you have any personal experience and not friends cars?

I run a GReddy in my car with ARP studs with a GT2871R at 18-20 PSI and there is no problems what so ever. Car is mint...if it breaks I'll post, if it doesn't I'm not going to post.

[RSP13-Sideways]

Obviously I wasn't basing the conclusion that the HG is garbage off of two posts or two specific instances -- a search will reveal theres way more people than that who've had problems using the GReddy HG, and thats just on FreshAlloy.

Also, as far as trusting a guy who drives a car in D1GP, and a guy who's been building/tuning SR20DET motors for years, and is highly respected as far as his knowledge, skill, and ability, I will trust the latter, not the former, when it comes to which headgasket to use in my engine build.

Especially when the former is sponsored by GReddy.

Nice try, but rather than calling me "gullible" and "easily persuaded," perhaps you should stick to discussing the actual matter at hand.

Further, it's not like there's zero posts about people with bad APEX'i gaskets. I've counted one. :)

Of course, one versus many... which would you choose?

Some people dont have problems with SS Autochrome, a lot of people do, does that mean I am going to buy SS Autochrome? No, because the fitment and build quality is shit. Just cause some people don't have problems with it, doesn't mean its all good. The majority of people DO have problems, and that matters. A LOT.

As far as personal experience goes, have YOU had any personal experience with APEX'i headgaskets?

Didn't think so.

So, again, how is that relevant? You have no experience with APEX'i HG, I have none with GReddy HG, perhaps we should both just end this disucssion immediately, as we are no longer qualified to discuss it, per your line.

My motor? APEX'i, I wouldn't use anything else.

I'm done

Good call! :D