Motegi Touge 17x9

[ryangreg]

Anybody have any idea how many inches the polished lips are on these? If anybody has any pics of these on their car, and feels like sharing, that'd be great.

Ryan

[ThatGuy]

Did you try asking Motegi?

[kognition]

:doh: that's a good place to start.

[ryangreg]

ha awsome answers dudes!

Yes, I did.

Hey, I have an idea!......errr never mind.

[ThatGuy]

Ok, if you did that much..

Did you try Searching?

This comes from a For Sale Thread.
http://memimage.cardomain.net/member_images/6/web/1410000-1410999/1410595_8_full.jpg
Now, granted, it's not a precise measurement of how big the lip is, but it gives you a visual clue as what it looks like.

[Dousan_PG]

hella ugly!

barf.

[kognition]

I hope R.J. did not design that. I would not really even think of that as much of a lip. But it looks like about 2 inches max. Kinda weird looking.

[ryangreg]

yea no shit, those things are ugly. So i guess that nasty lip you see in Motegis site is obviously on the 18in rim.

Rim suggestions anybody. 17 x 9 front 17 x 9 or 10 rear. Something with a substantial lip in the rear at least.

[m0rex]

For that price i'd get teh rota d2.

[ThatGuy]

Rim suggestions anybody.

This is the BEST place to start.
http://www.zilvia.net/f/showthread.php?t=44300

[ryangreg]

thanks that guy....helped a bunch.

[aznpoopy]

wow... that s14 REALLY looks like a 4x4.

[ryangreg]

^^ sure does.... maybe that threw me off.

I suppose with a lower series tire and a good slamming those would look pretty damn good.

[midnite_180]

these D1 cars that where at DriftCircurt2 here in san diego had them on there cars, thay look hot to me. sorry this is the only pic i have.*NOTE* im not talking about the s15 just the cars in the background, the s15 belongs to the founder of Driftcircurt.org
http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b355/po0chucker/7bba7f55.jpg

[ThatGuy]

Since the cars have obvious MCKINNEY stickers on them, I went to Mckinney Motorsports page and gound these.
http://www.mckinneymotorsports.com/images/gallery/35.jpg
http://www.mckinneymotorsports.com/images/gallery/32.jpg
http://www.mckinneymotorsports.com/images/gallery/29.jpg
Amazing what treasures the internet holds.

[ryangreg]

^^ hahaha sure is amazing....im learnin'....eeeasy. Them looks like some 18 der in da' back. That badass 3+ lip is what im after out back. Looks like 18's out back, and 17's up front.

[Dousan_PG]

those lips are weeeeeak.

[SpeedMonkeyInc]

Q:How do you totally screw up the classic 5 spoke?

A: Motegi Togue

If for no other reason, stay away just because they are called "Togue"

[koukidough]

Wow that 3rd pic is amazing. Those are hella deep! Wonder what the exact size and offset.

[samms95s14se]

Hey I have those rims!! 18x9's and 18x10's, the price is not bad and offsets are decent. Stop drinking the Haterade people!
These wheels are purpose built for professional level drifting, they did R&D with professional racers and drifters like Steph Papadakis, PacRim's Dai Yoshihara, McKinney Motorsport's Tanner Foust and Andy Hope, plus I've seen various other cars in Formula D use these also. Also the lip is nice unlike rims where the spokes take up most of the lip room. Not everyone needs to spend 500.00 a piece for rims just to slide around a track but if you do watch that wall! $$.

[TougeRacing]

hella ugly!

barf.

werd. that is pretty darn ugly. the finish looks like crap. :aw:

[samms95s14se]

Here are mine... just not on the car yet, the finish on the gloss blacks are great! better in person.

http://memimage.cardomain.net/member_images/12/web/756000-756999/756157_65_full.jpg

[kazuo]

Those wheels are bootsy.

mmm-hmmm

[KA24DESOneThree]

Super-heavy. Like "Holy Christ, this car was professionally prepared and yet they're running these wheels anyway?" heavy.

Oh, and if you're basing your wheel selection on lip size, you have your priorities out of whack.

[axiomatik]

so, do the 17s and 18s have completely different lips? on that dark grey s13, the fronts have a stepped lip and the rears have a smooth lip. I can't tell for sure, but it looks like the fronts are 17s and the rears are 18s. I have to say the rears look a lot better, that stepped lip is just fugly.

[Flybert]

These wheels are purpose built for professional level drifting, they did R&D with professional racers and drifters like Steph Papadakis, PacRim's Dai Yoshihara, McKinney Motorsport's Tanner Foust and Andy Hope, plus I've seen various other cars in Formula D use these also.

You have got to be kidding. Are you serious? Wheels purpose built for drifting? AHAHAHAA. How are heavy, ugly, wheels purpose built for drifting? Drifting is all about performance and looking good, none of which those wheels provide.

And that McKinney car is so ugly it makes me want to throw up every time I see it at the track. The only time it looked somewhat decent is when they pulled off the graphics on it and it was still ugly.

[samms95s14se]

You have got to be kidding. Are you serious? Wheels purpose built for drifting? AHAHAHAA. How are heavy, ugly, wheels purpose built for drifting? Drifting is all about performance and looking good, none of which those wheels provide.

And that McKinney car is so ugly it makes me want to throw up every time I see it at the track. The only time it looked somewhat decent is when they pulled off the graphics on it and it was still ugly.

First, thank you for reminding me why I don't post on this forum much and only read stuff, I forget about the responses from some of the people on here.
Second, what I wrote is straight from the Motegi 2006 catalog and I doubt they would lie about it.
Third, they only weigh a couple more pounds than FNO's do and If everybody had the same taste in wheels we would all have the same ones.
Drifting requires knowledge and comon sense! None of which YOU seem to provide.

[FaLKoN240]

First, thank you for reminding me why I don't post on this forum much and only read stuff, I forget about the responses from some of the people on here.
Second, what I wrote is straight from the Motegi 2006 catalog and I doubt they would lie about it.
Third, they only weigh a couple more pounds than FNO's do and If everybody had the same taste in wheels we would all have the same ones.
Drifting requires knowledge and comon sense! None of which YOU seem to provide.

HAHAHAAH You're funny. Why does Motegi say that they're R&D'd by REAL DRIFTERS :naughty: ? Because those guys said "Sure you can use our names. Just give us money."

Frankly, they look like some wheel that some Honda heads THINK that "Drifters" would like. "Aggressive" spoke design, tons of ugly stepped lip, and pointless rivets. Those wheels are a joke, and are why I'd rather buy used wheels off jp.yahoo auctions that would be lighter, look better, and are more likely not to be owned by a very select few in the US.

[s14dr1ft3r]

Hi. For those that want to see the same car lowered, here ya go. It's my car. For all you that dont like the wheels, who cares. They look alright and they'll suffice for now until I can afford better ones.
http://memimage.cardomain.net/member_images/6/web/1410000-1410999/1410595_24_full.jpg
Oh, and the stepped lips are only on the 17s, not the 18s. That is something that actually pissed me off when I got them. And as far as the professional drifters rocking them...I dont think they are track worthy as they are on the heavy side (23 lbs. for 17x9) but they work for my DD. The pros probably only use them because Motegi is paying out their asses to sponsor them. I'm sure if I were Jerry (owner of PacRim Drift Team) and Motegi gave me X amount of dollars and a set of free wheels, I'd use em too. Just my 2 cents.

[KA24DESOneThree]

Second, what I wrote is straight from the Motegi 2006 catalog and I doubt they would lie about it.
Third, they only weigh a couple more pounds than FNO's do and If everybody had the same taste in wheels we would all have the same ones.
Drifting requires knowledge and comon sense! None of which YOU seem to provide.

You're new to marketing, aren't you? Just because a company says something doesn't mean it's true. Motegi is catering to the 240 crowd with statements like that, and your belief makes their advertising campaign a success.

There is no "only" when it comes to wheel weights. Not only does even one half of a pound make a difference in unsprung weight and thus suspension efficiency, it also affects flywheel effect, which consequently affects stopping, accelerating, and turn-in.

Drifting requires neither knowledge or common sense. It requires a heavy right foot and a better-than-mediocre budget. In fact, if one were to use common sense, one wouldn't drift.

[Dousan_PG]

Drifting requires neither knowledge or common sense. It requires a heavy right foot and a better-than-mediocre budget. In fact, if one were to use common sense, one wouldn't drift.


actually it requires a decent amount of knowledge and common sense and not always a heavey right foot.

[chmercer]

Drifting requires neither knowledge or common sense. It requires a heavy right foot and a better-than-mediocre budget. In fact, if one were to use common sense, one wouldn't drift.

you talking about drag racing?

HUR HUR

[SpeedMonkeyInc]

Drifting requires neither knowledge or common sense. It requires a heavy right foot and a better-than-mediocre budget. In fact, if one were to use common sense, one wouldn't drift.


Hey hold on guys, I think we have a pro here. Maybe we should listen to what this guy has to say, because clearly, he has been-there-done-that.

[samms95s14se]

You're new to marketing, aren't you? Just because a company says something doesn't mean it's true. Motegi is catering to the 240 crowd with statements like that, and your belief makes their advertising campaign a success.

There is no "only" when it comes to wheel weights. Not only does even one half of a pound make a difference in unsprung weight and thus suspension efficiency, it also affects flywheel effect, which consequently affects stopping, accelerating, and turn-in.

Drifting requires neither knowledge or common sense. It requires a heavy right foot and a better-than-mediocre budget. In fact, if one were to use common sense, one wouldn't drift.

I wasn't going to post again...but I like to teach the youth. If we didn't belive in anything a company said about their product we would never buy anything!

Motegi Togue wheel users "Daijiro Yoshihara" is Ranked 5th in Formula D out of about 35 dirivers!! are you that stupid to think he would hurt his chances at a victory just to get some free wheels and some pocket money if they were heavy garbage wheels? Also "Tanner foust" is ranked 13th and was just in the quarter finals at Irwindale against Chris Forsberg.

Nobody is trying to say they are the greatest wheels! but for the look, size and price they work for me!! and it's nice to know professonals use them. Even the beloved SSR's that cost a grip are forged wheels with a whole bunch of pointless rivets and even a stepped lip.

[axiomatik]

Sorry, but that was all just marketing hype. Do you really believe all marketing you see? Do you have a closet full of Axe body spray so that every hot chick within 10 miles won't be able to keep their hands off you? Drifting does not have any special requirements when it comes to wheels. You may notice that there are no threads on Zilvia asking what wheels are best for drifting. I am sure that all their 'R&D' consisted of asking what sizes they should make.

[FaLKoN240]

The rivets on SSRs are so that you can take the face off of the lip, and put it onto a larger barrel if you'd like.

[TougeRacing]

The rivets on SSRs are so that you can take the face off of the lip, and put it onto a larger barrel if you'd like.

and they also look better. :eek3d:

[Gnnr]

The rivets on SSRs are so that you can take the face off of the lip, and put it onto a larger barrel if you'd like.

Ohhh....so thats what a step lip thats "functional" is. Heh...I'm actually learning here. =) I like the look of step lips, but if I buy a wheel that has a non funcitonal step lip, is that poser-esque? And how do you know if you can take the face off, what terms do you look for? Jline has some nice step wheels and I'm not sure if they're just design.

http://www.jlinewheels.com/

/end threadjack (:

[FaLKoN240]

Mmmm, I think step lip is to make smaller lips look larger.

[ryangreg]

So you guys really think those touge's are ugly huh....well at least half of you? Im not a huge fan of the stepped lip, but it would be fine out front. What are some thoughts on staggered setups ie. 18 out back, 17 up front. Yea tires are considerably more expensive, but thats not what Im asking.

A nice flat lip out back is what im after, I dont care if my priorities are out of whack, thank you for reminding me though : ) Im not trying to spend 5 beans a pop here. I can get those Touge's 17 X 9 for 185 a piece, the 18 X 10's for 225/pop. I will be tracking the car, so as for staggered setup, take that into consideration.

yahoo japan for the nasty wheel selection?

we'll just see about that.

[ThatGuy]

No stagger for track. Unless you like plowing straight through a corner with your wheels at full lock.

[ramblux]

Stepped lips are stronger. Think corrugated cardboard, stock fender lips, etc.

[ryangreg]

I dunno bout that no stagger for track use theory. I've seen cars in canada absolutey shredding with that setup, and one of the Signal drivers there, the younger kid, he rips a staggered setup back home....seen it in super street yo'! and in option vids when they give you car spec and shit.


so yea, went to yahoo japan and....

Yahoo! Japan is a site much like Yahoo! but tailor-made for Japanese users.

and that shit is pretty confusing even when you translate it.

somebody spoon feed me something good.....17x9 front 17x10 rear nice big lip out back, reasonable lip up front....as for offset not sure yet, but I was thinking of running spacers. I have 4 lug now, but will upgrade to 5 lug if need be. Thats another thing about them touge's, they offer that shit in 4 lug, almost cant go wrong.

I am sure some would beg to differ though.

Ryan

[ThatGuy]

True the sample I gave was a bit extreme. But you can't really expect us to pick your wheels for you, can you? What's next, pick your aero kit? Your paint color? How about your girlfriend? Keep looking!

[ryangreg]

hahah this shits tough man, sorry. so many options. I thought those motegis where nasty, but you guys made me think twice about it.

[SoSideways]

If you're into heavy rims that look decent and have a decent sized flat lip, you can always get those Sport Max wheels in 17x9.5 +35, or 18x8.5 +35, or 18x9.5 +35.

I've seen those rims in person, they're not that bad, and can be made to be flush quite easily in the front, the rear's already pretty flush as is.

[OptionZero]

if you dont care about looks or weight get Mustang Cobras, they are dirt cheap

[FaLKoN240]

And they look better.

[that180guy]

they named a wheel "touge" ahahahaha :ghey:

man, personally they dont even look all that bad. loose the gay gray color n lik keep it a simple silver with polished lip or sumthing would be nicer imho.

cheap wheels are cheap wheels.
you pay for what you get. i know a guy that bought FNs way before everybody was lik "zmog fn's are cheap n nice" and he cracked them on the streets of sf.

/shrugs

buy what u like, and if u ask for opinions on zilbeer, u get the paddle, lol.

[supportTHEezln]

The rivets on SSRs are so that you can take the face off of the lip, and put it onto a larger barrel if you'd like.

That's not what they're for, SSR wouldn't sell only the barrels (rims) separately. But they ARE so you can take them apart, so I guess functional. And I agree, get cheap wheels off yahoo auctions, i got some 18x9+4 and 18x10+16 off yahoo auction.jp for $134+shipping. The total with shipping and commission from the place I got it from etc etc, was well under $500.

[ryangreg]

I dont even understand that yahoo.jp even when Its translated. Do I need to be 1/4 japanese to navigate my way around that place or what?

Ryan