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S13_marine · 09-21-2009, 10:53 AM

Anyone know the difference between the Seibon TA-Style and BA-Style Carbon Fiber Hoods for a S14 Kouki??

S13_marine · 09-22-2009, 10:24 PM

Hey, just in case anyone else had this same question, I contacted Seibon ans thier exact words were "The TA and BA for the S14 are exactly the same, i'm not sure why we are still selling either under different names"

So, Seibon TA = Seibon BA

OptionZero · 09-22-2009, 10:58 PM

don't get it

their mold is flawed

mine was horrible

get Garage-S real deal
only a couple hundred more, billion times better

GSXRJJordan · 09-22-2009, 11:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by OptionZero

don't get it

their mold is flawed

mine was horrible

get Garage-S real deal
only a couple hundred more, billion times better

Plus, there's only a couple in the US, right?

Yours and Evan's?

Vision Garage · 09-23-2009, 12:06 AM

Skip Garage-S!!!!

GET KOGNITION! REAL DEAL!

S13_marine · 09-23-2009, 09:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by OptionZero

don't get it

their mold is flawed

mine was horrible

get Garage-S real deal
only a couple hundred more, billion times better

That's dissapointing... I always thought of Seibon as high quality stuff

OptionZero · 09-23-2009, 11:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by S13_marine

That's dissapointing... I always thought of Seibon as high quality stuff

nope, totally hit or miss just like an ebay brand, but twice the price

Quote:

Originally Posted by GSXRJJordan

Plus, there's only a couple in the US, right?

Yours and Evan's?

i have a fiberglass version
raretrick has a c/f one
white bunny has a c/f one

at $800 bucks, it's only a couple hundred more than a seibon one
why fuck around

falken car has one

not sure who else

S13_marine · 09-25-2009, 10:36 PM

So i've been to both Kognition and Garage-s' websites and dont see this hood anywhere??? Antone have any other info / contacts i could get with?

OptionZero · 09-26-2009, 09:05 PM

Kognition doesn't make it - they're saying you should have him custom make that design. Which he won't, because you can't afford to pay him to do that.

Garage-S's website is a little wonky right now.

Contact C2AutoSPL, which is where I got mine.

:: C2 AUTO HOMEPAGE ::

shogun! · 09-30-2009, 12:07 PM

Got a Seibon hood and I must say it is the best CF quality I have seen so far.

Judge for yourself.

OptionZero · 09-30-2009, 08:48 PM

are you retarded?

put it on the car, see how it fits and tell us

its not even really carbon fiber

shogun! · 10-01-2009, 08:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by OptionZero

are you retarded?

put it on the car, see how it fits and tell us

its not even really carbon fiber

Tsss...

..Crawl back under your stone. You fit better there than on this site.

The hood is on the car and has a perfect fit and it is carbon. I easily lift it with tips of thumb and second finger.

R33E8 · 10-02-2009, 07:06 PM

It's not full carbon.. It's fiberglass with a 1 layer of carbon on top... That's how almost all carbon fiber hoods and products on the market today are made... If you want some real lightweight full cf stuff you might as well just make it yourself.. You'll save a shit ton of money too...

Doing it yourself, a full cf hood would probably cost like 200-300 + the satisfaction of doing it yourself and choice of some crazy stylish cf weaves.. A tri-axial or satin weave would look pretty unique.. Once I acquire a good condition stock hood, I make a DIY on how to make your own from start to finish...

OptionZero · 10-03-2009, 08:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by shogun!

Tsss...

..Crawl back under your stone. You fit better there than on this site.

The hood is on the car and has a perfect fit and it is carbon. I easily lift it with tips of thumb and second finger.

Yeah. . . no.

First of all:

Second:

THIS is your sense of style? Straight off your website

Is it 1997 still in Sweden?

Holy crap you're a fucking idiot.

There are stock Volvos that look better than your piece of shit.

mmdb · 10-03-2009, 08:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by OptionZero

Kognition doesn't make it - they're saying you should have him custom make that design. Which he won't, because you can't afford to pay him to do that.

His plans are to make one with a vent. Contact him to ask him when. Should be pretty nice as I'm using his OEM style hood with a really good fit.

OptionZero · 10-03-2009, 09:18 PM

yeah, but i don't think kognition is gonna make a garage-s clone

*Wake* · 10-03-2009, 09:24 PM

If he did it would be ridiculous!

shogun! · 10-04-2009, 05:08 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by OptionZero

Holy crap you're a fucking idiot.

There are stock Volvos that look better than your piece of shit.

You got a serious attitude problem.

SochBAT · 10-04-2009, 06:01 AM

OptionZero actually knows what he's talking about.

You should too if you ever purchased quality parts.

And about that hood...

shogun! · 10-04-2009, 08:25 AM

Jolly nice welcomming on this site. It used to be a very fine attitude here once. What happened?

I feel sorry for the ones having bad hoods with bad fitmnent but that doesn't make my hood worse just because of your experience with your hood. I am happy with how well mine fit even before the fenders, front and other parts have been adjusted and fastened.

Good you are so keen on marking up details with red circles, now I will not forget to finish the not yet fixed parts like the wiper arms. Please feel free to red circle the masking tape holding up the front on the side fenders as well. Here is a picture. Play on

lewisfk · 10-04-2009, 08:45 AM

Garage-S's website is a little wonky right now.

Contact C2AutoSPL, which is where I got mine.

Both websites are not user friendly, but can u post pics of your hood or ask someone who purchased a hood from them to post it! From the supplier, to the vender, to u! A lot can go wrong!

OptionZero · 10-04-2009, 11:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by shogun!

Jolly nice welcomming on this site. It used to be a very fine attitude here once. What happened?

I feel sorry for the ones having bad hoods with bad fitmnent but that doesn't make my hood worse just because of your experience with your hood. I am happy with how well mine fit even before the fenders, front and other parts have been adjusted and fastened.

Good you are so keen on marking up details with red circles, now I will not forget to finish the not yet fixed parts like the wiper arms. Please feel free to red circle the masking tape holding up the front on the side fenders as well. Here is a picture. Play on

Zilvia doesn't want you, get the fuck out.
Who wants to take advice from a guy that looks like this:

Quote:

Originally Posted by lewisfk

Garage-S's website is a little wonky right now.

Contact C2AutoSPL, which is where I got mine.

Both websites are not user friendly, but can u post pics of your hood or ask someone who purchased a hood from them to post it! From the supplier, to the vender, to u! A lot can go wrong!

Just give C2 a call and order it over the phone.

lewisfk · 10-04-2009, 01:46 PM

well thank you option zero, i will give a call!

SochBAT · 10-04-2009, 02:25 PM

Just for you.

I didn't mind the tape though, because you mentioned it already.

shogun! · 10-04-2009, 11:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Soooshi

Just for you.

I didn't mind the tape though, because you mentioned it already.

Haha...now that is constructive mate. Thanks!

SochBAT · 10-05-2009, 12:10 AM

But really, seems you've got things under wraps.

Trying to be constructive is hard, but i'll try.

The bumper is pretty fail. Doesn't match the body style and lines of the car at all. it reminds me of a tiburon, which is pretty fail itself.

The vents serve no purpose, cover em.

The headlight setup doesn't look pretty. IMHO, encased lights, AB-FLUG, are the only win. high-end output, and balling as shit. For lighting with that setup, check clearcorners.com

Nice plywood.

shogun! · 10-05-2009, 12:20 AM

OT (since this thread originaly is about hoods). I stop posting here after this final post.

The light houses sit like this when they are installed

The bumper was installed in the end of last millenium and is subject to be changed but will stay on for a while. Coz delivery time (works9).

The vents do work to let out the air stream in the wheel arcs at high speed.

Thanks for your input.

SochBAT · 10-05-2009, 02:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by shogun!

OT (since this thread originaly is about hoods). I stop posting here after this final post.

The light houses sit like this when they are installed

The bumper was installed in the end of last millenium and is subject to be changed but will stay on for a while. Coz delivery time (works9).

The vents do work to let out the air stream in the wheel arcs at high speed.

Thanks for your input.

The light housings always suck. Check out everyone else's setups. As hard as they have tried, it still looks like ass. the Supermade car setup looks decent because it was done by themselves. They put time and tons of effort to make shit look like Shiny shit. Just being honest. Look up everyone else that has that same headlight. Wonky and ugly. but hey, maybe you can be the one guy that pulls it off!

The bumper... we'll be waiting for the new stuff. Stock looks better lol.

And the air stream in the wheel arcs? The ventilation is highly admissable. I take it you're not running fender liner either. or any kind of canard/diffuser.

JGTC speeds, yea, MAYBE the vents help.

but keeping in mind they travel at shit-exploding speeds at a constant, it makes sense. Street car/track car, you won't see any difference. And they just look ImportTuner as hell. Didn't look good then, doesn't look good now.

Constructive!

Drifting-pedobear · 10-08-2009, 11:52 AM

just stop talking (posting), they wont stop.

i think you would have gotten the hint when they red circled the plywood... which i loled in the library from and got a pissy glance from ppl.

and i think the "Vader" bumper doesnt have quite the amount of enginereing and study as race cars...

Drifting-pedobear · 10-08-2009, 11:54 AM

btw i bought seibon shit form my civic, i was pissed. my VIS stuff fit better then seibon! plus it weighs more then my FRP stuff. becasue its not dry, its wet as a bathroom floor.

option's hood looks damn good.

09-21-2009, 10:53 AM	#1
S13_marine Zilvia Member Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Yuma, AZ Age: 35 Posts: 204 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Seibon BA vs. TA Anyone know the difference between the Seibon TA-Style and BA-Style Carbon Fiber Hoods for a S14 Kouki?? __________________ If you ain't first, you're last

09-22-2009, 10:24 PM	#2
S13_marine Zilvia Member Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Yuma, AZ Age: 35 Posts: 204 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Hey, just in case anyone else had this same question, I contacted Seibon ans thier exact words were "The TA and BA for the S14 are exactly the same, i'm not sure why we are still selling either under different names" So, Seibon TA = Seibon BA __________________ If you ain't first, you're last

09-23-2009, 12:06 AM	#5
Vision Garage Nissanaholic! Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: USDM Land Posts: 1,799 Trader Rating: (9) Feedback Score: 9 reviews	Skip Garage-S!!!! GET KOGNITION! REAL DEAL! __________________

09-25-2009, 10:36 PM	#8
S13_marine Zilvia Member Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Yuma, AZ Age: 35 Posts: 204 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	So i've been to both Kognition and Garage-s' websites and dont see this hood anywhere??? Antone have any other info / contacts i could get with? __________________ If you ain't first, you're last

09-30-2009, 12:07 PM	#10
shogun! Zilvia Junkie Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Sweden Posts: 367 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Got a Seibon hood and I must say it is the best CF quality I have seen so far. Judge for yourself. __________________ My +700hp RS13

09-22-2009, 10:58 PM	#3
OptionZero Post Whore! Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Norcal Age: 37 Posts: 6,262 Trader Rating: (2) Rides Gallery: OptionZero Feedback Score: 2 reviews	don't get it their mold is flawed mine was horrible get Garage-S real deal only a couple hundred more, billion times better

09-26-2009, 09:05 PM	#9
OptionZero Post Whore! Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Norcal Age: 37 Posts: 6,262 Trader Rating: (2) Rides Gallery: OptionZero Feedback Score: 2 reviews	Kognition doesn't make it - they're saying you should have him custom make that design. Which he won't, because you can't afford to pay him to do that. Garage-S's website is a little wonky right now. Contact C2AutoSPL, which is where I got mine. :: C2 AUTO HOMEPAGE ::

09-30-2009, 08:48 PM	#11
OptionZero Post Whore! Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Norcal Age: 37 Posts: 6,262 Trader Rating: (2) Rides Gallery: OptionZero Feedback Score: 2 reviews	are you retarded? put it on the car, see how it fits and tell us its not even really carbon fiber

10-02-2009, 07:06 PM	#13
R33E8 Zilvia Addict Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: NJ Age: 31 Posts: 797 Trader Rating: (14) Feedback Score: 14 reviews	It's not full carbon.. It's fiberglass with a 1 layer of carbon on top... That's how almost all carbon fiber hoods and products on the market today are made... If you want some real lightweight full cf stuff you might as well just make it yourself.. You'll save a shit ton of money too... Doing it yourself, a full cf hood would probably cost like 200-300 + the satisfaction of doing it yourself and choice of some crazy stylish cf weaves.. A tri-axial or satin weave would look pretty unique.. Once I acquire a good condition stock hood, I make a DIY on how to make your own from start to finish...

10-03-2009, 09:18 PM	#16
OptionZero Post Whore! Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Norcal Age: 37 Posts: 6,262 Trader Rating: (2) Rides Gallery: OptionZero Feedback Score: 2 reviews	yeah, but i don't think kognition is gonna make a garage-s clone

10-03-2009, 09:24 PM	#17
Wake Premium Member Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Santa Cruz, ca Age: 38 Posts: 6,699 Trader Rating: (8) Feedback Score: 8 reviews	If he did it would be ridiculous! __________________ S.P.P.S. Member #00 CoUpe LOve Member #00

10-04-2009, 06:01 AM	#19
SochBAT Post Whore! Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Abilene, TX Age: 35 Posts: 6,428 Trader Rating: (9) Rides Gallery: SochBAT Feedback Score: 9 reviews	OptionZero actually knows what he's talking about. You should too if you ever purchased quality parts. And about that hood...

10-04-2009, 08:25 AM	#20
shogun! Zilvia Junkie Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Sweden Posts: 367 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Jolly nice welcomming on this site. It used to be a very fine attitude here once. What happened? I feel sorry for the ones having bad hoods with bad fitmnent but that doesn't make my hood worse just because of your experience with your hood. I am happy with how well mine fit even before the fenders, front and other parts have been adjusted and fastened. Good you are so keen on marking up details with red circles, now I will not forget to finish the not yet fixed parts like the wiper arms. Please feel free to red circle the masking tape holding up the front on the side fenders as well. Here is a picture. Play on __________________ My +700hp RS13

10-04-2009, 08:45 AM	#21
lewisfk Zilvia FREAK! Join Date: May 2009 Location: North Austin, Texas Age: 40 Posts: 1,162 Trader Rating: (13) Feedback Score: 13 reviews	website Garage-S's website is a little wonky right now. Contact C2AutoSPL, which is where I got mine. Both websites are not user friendly, but can u post pics of your hood or ask someone who purchased a hood from them to post it! From the supplier, to the vender, to u! A lot can go wrong!

10-04-2009, 01:46 PM	#23
lewisfk Zilvia FREAK! Join Date: May 2009 Location: North Austin, Texas Age: 40 Posts: 1,162 Trader Rating: (13) Feedback Score: 13 reviews	well thank you option zero, i will give a call!

10-04-2009, 02:25 PM	#24
SochBAT Post Whore! Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Abilene, TX Age: 35 Posts: 6,428 Trader Rating: (9) Rides Gallery: SochBAT Feedback Score: 9 reviews	Just for you. I didn't mind the tape though, because you mentioned it already.

10-05-2009, 12:10 AM	#26
SochBAT Post Whore! Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Abilene, TX Age: 35 Posts: 6,428 Trader Rating: (9) Rides Gallery: SochBAT Feedback Score: 9 reviews	But really, seems you've got things under wraps. Trying to be constructive is hard, but i'll try. The bumper is pretty fail. Doesn't match the body style and lines of the car at all. it reminds me of a tiburon, which is pretty fail itself. The vents serve no purpose, cover em. The headlight setup doesn't look pretty. IMHO, encased lights, AB-FLUG, are the only win. high-end output, and balling as shit. For lighting with that setup, check clearcorners.com Nice plywood.

10-05-2009, 12:20 AM	#27
shogun! Zilvia Junkie Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Sweden Posts: 367 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	OT (since this thread originaly is about hoods). I stop posting here after this final post. The light houses sit like this when they are installed The bumper was installed in the end of last millenium and is subject to be changed but will stay on for a while. Coz delivery time (works9). The vents do work to let out the air stream in the wheel arcs at high speed. Thanks for your input.

10-08-2009, 11:52 AM	#29
Drifting-pedobear Zilvia Addict Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: seattle, wa Age: 30 Posts: 937 Trader Rating: (11) Feedback Score: 11 reviews	just stop talking (posting), they wont stop. i think you would have gotten the hint when they red circled the plywood... which i loled in the library from and got a pissy glance from ppl. and i think the "Vader" bumper doesnt have quite the amount of enginereing and study as race cars...

10-08-2009, 11:54 AM	#30
Drifting-pedobear Zilvia Addict Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: seattle, wa Age: 30 Posts: 937 Trader Rating: (11) Feedback Score: 11 reviews	btw i bought seibon shit form my civic, i was pissed. my VIS stuff fit better then seibon! plus it weighs more then my FRP stuff. becasue its not dry, its wet as a bathroom floor. option's hood looks damn good.

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