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03-21-2010, 09:29 PM | #1 |
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Healthcare Bill Passed Thread
Healthcare bill just passed, let's hear some thoughts.
Personally, I believe this is just one sign of a fundamental divide in our coutnry. I believe, like John Boehner said, that this is a move toward a society in which the "outcomes of our life are guaranteed," rather than one in which WE are free to make the most of our lives. Personally, I believe that in many senses, the Democratic Party is the party of people that can't do for themselves. I TRULY believe that if you divided the country into 2 societies, one side all Democrats, one side all others, and gave each side EQUAL natural resources to start, the Democratic society would fail and the "other" side would prosper. Sick of failures and lazy asses bringing every one else down. If I want to help you, that is my CHOICE, not your right.
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03-21-2010, 09:43 PM | #2 | |
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Don't feel like googling, but I'm guessing this gives free healthcare to people like in Europe and Canada?
If it is, I knew it was coming. I told everybody that Obama was socialist before he got elected.
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03-21-2010, 10:14 PM | #8 |
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here we go the way of France. The only hope is enough people get upset about this that it effects the congressional elections this fall.
Fuck they have renters tax, tax on dividends, plus a few other taxes that got tacked on in the last week to supposedly make it not increase the deficit. Great now I am going to have to pay all this extra taxes for the fucks that feel entitled without working for it.
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03-21-2010, 10:27 PM | #9 | |
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How many people are going to actually get free healthcare from this?
The biggest thing I see from this is that everybody is required to have insurance. This isn't what Canada or Europeans have.
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03-21-2010, 11:23 PM | #12 |
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Oh please
Everything is a doomsday scenario here I'm glad it passed. Maybe they'll shut up about it. Or maybe Rush Limbaugh will leave Limbaugh ‘leaving the country’ if health reform passes | Raw Story And we'll have one less fatass complaining Nothing crazy is gonna happen in this country I'll be here in 2015 laughing at everyone...including the 2012 nutcases.
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03-21-2010, 11:44 PM | #15 |
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Is this about the healthcare bill or bashing Democrats?
I'm down for both. We desperately need a viable 3rd party along with enough smaller parties to shake it up. We also need people who vote based on the person rather than the party they represent(no mater what party that may be).
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03-21-2010, 11:56 PM | #16 |
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i hope we get that midwest bullet train squared away next.
hope and change, get used to it or pack your shit and get the fuck out. taking America back yall.
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03-22-2010, 12:07 AM | #18 | |
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03-22-2010, 12:15 AM | #20 |
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I blame the immigrants. I blame all the Illegals and Legals! Everyone brought the U.S.A down (Except for the Native Americans).
All you non Native Americans are Failures (including me). Republicans are failures as well as Democrats. People (citizens) are all failures because you believe that it really matters if you're Rep. or Demo. or Independent. The real issue is that GAS IS STILL OVER $3.25 CENTS. Things will all make sense, and Equality will exist when Zilvians figure out why the hell they spend their money invested into a piece of junk 240 instead of just buying Life insurance or health care. The same amount it takes to go to the track once and month, ($80-200) you can buy Superb health care. So, screw health care, screw air bags, screw anyone that said "you can't use JB weld on that." You already gave up a safe life when you bought an S13 death trap. =) |
03-22-2010, 12:17 AM | #22 | |
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For the first time in our history, there will be a new capital gains, dividends, and interest tax specifically to pay for healthcare. That was once the burden of the worker receiving the healthcare (social security taxes.) Now the tax burden is being shifted to those who do not need to use Social Security (or for the sake of this argument, the new government subsidies). Not to mention, there will be specific taxes on profits of healthcare insurance providers, and specific taxes on premium health insurance plans. I for one can't wait for election time. Congress is going to see a huge Republican wave. Too bad it's too late. This is not what America was supposed to be. Hell, the federal government has no constitutional power to even do this. Healthcare should be left to the states. |
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03-22-2010, 12:18 AM | #23 |
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Awesome more money taxed from my pay check...this bs sucks! how are people suppose to live if all our money is going to taxes for bs...there raising the price on everything and people arent more money to cover..i personally dont have health care but then again i don't get sick often. if i do got some old school Spanish style healing to get me better.
But then if the bill wouldn't have passed then you'll have pissed off mob of people marching and protest the streets cause they didn't get there way.. Country is broke and people don't understand that..
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03-22-2010, 12:27 AM | #26 | |
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Thats another thing gas is all over the place,here in new 93 is $3.30 in some place,once the summer is here then what? $5buck how it was;what like 2 years ago..then The MTA wants to raise the tolls and fare again..The bridge that i need to cross everyday to get home cost 11bucks for those who dont have a ez-pass and are resident of staten island..!
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03-22-2010, 12:27 AM | #27 |
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idk...i dont really want my checks getting taxed more because ppl dont wanna do shit and get off their asses..i mean dont get me wrong, there are those who cant work(old, sick etc) but there are plenty more who just sit at home and wait for those welfare, foodstamps, unemployment etc etc...people just milkin the system
stop the support and create jobs..? green party ftw
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03-22-2010, 12:28 AM | #28 |
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Ehh, its still too cheap. I want it to double so there's less traffic.
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03-22-2010, 12:30 AM | #30 |
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Too bad most people dont realize that it's not fucking free. I think a lot of people fail to realize that if they dont purchase some type of health care plan there will be penalties. They dont understand that they must purchase insurance or pay a penalty that would be the greater of $750 or 2% of their income by 2016.
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