mantas

Thank you, i wasnt sure where i heard those lines but that is exactly the saying i was trying to explain to this lib. He will come to his senses eventually or he will stay broke. Hahha

slowvia

I would like the President (whomever that may be after the next election) to cut:
The Federal Department of Education
The Federal Reserve
Military spending
The CIA

And I would like them to:
Legalize marijuana and tax the living hell out of it (and just for your information, no I do not smoke weed)
End ALL of our wars and bring our soldiers home, they've done their job!
Raise taxes on the wealthiest of Americans
Offer tax incentives to corporations to relocate their manufacturing to the US
Start taxing corporations for outsourcing
Start seriously investing in space programs
Start seriously investing in renewable energy research
Reinstate the Gold Standard (much easier said than done, yeah, I know)
Figure out a health care plan that can cover Americans who live without it
Axe murder John Boehner

I also think it would be a sign of trustworthiness if the President took a pay cut in such a financially unstable time. For as much as Obama talks about taxing wealthy Americans I have never heard him consider taking a smaller paycheck, PUT YOUR MONEY WHERE YOUR MOUTH IS MR. PRESIDENT!
With that having been said, I would still prefer Obama over Bush or Romney. But there are MANY more people I would prefer over Obama as well.

kingkilburn

OH MY GOD

Is that an argument that has both classical conservative and progressive liberal ideas?


Why yes, yes it is.

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kingkilburn

Imagine that. They aren't at odds. There's a time and place for everything.

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kingkilburn

And fucks still not given about post whoring that doesn't actually count as post whoring. :P

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Walperstyle

Video 1 explains an answer to exactly what you are saying

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kingkilburn

You still aren't shutting the fuck up. Go bug someone else with childish shit.

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Corbic

You realize the President has veto power and must sign into law what congress creates. If he didn't agree with it, he can kill the law by refusing to sign it.

The president also sets the tone and agenda. Obama is constant trying to controll this by giving speeches every 30 minutes.

Corbic

How is it Fascist? Fascism is basically an elected dictator. The enter governmental system is driven by one single super presidents agenda.

This means there is no room for disagreement, but it also means shir gets done fast.

Most Faciat Goverments are SOCIALISTS however.

Mussolini's Italy, Fascist Spain, Chavez, even the Nazis (National Socialists Workers Party).

Also I don't think you understand the mandate, it's basically a punishment to anyone with a Job and the common sense to not have 40 fucking children. It's another slap in the face by they underclass - you know the guys that are on social security disability, getting food stamps, welfare and when the file their taxes (having paid nothing) get a "income credit earned" return of $4,500.


Hood rich bitch!!

TougeSR20Kid

Most fascist governments disguised themselves at first as socialist parties or governments. Reason why national socialist workers party (NAZI) were able to get so much popular backing is that they posed as a socialist party with socialist ideals which is not the case... Think about it ppl are more likely to allow a fascist regime to take power if they believe that the government is for the ppl... The reality is that those governments are not socialist

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Corbic

How where the Nazis not Socialists?

The government took over major industries, created widespread job and pension programs, worker reform laws, nation health card and medical screening... So for.

Socialism is a form of Economic system, not governance.

You can be a Socialist and still have a King, Emperor, General, President, Dictator, or Prime-minister. You can also have a Congress, House, Parliament, Court, Senate or Committee as well.

TougeSR20Kid

No, socialism at its core means that no one person is more powerful than the other it completely does away with social stratification and classism. What you are referring to is communism. I don't believe there has ever been a true socialist country in the purist of its definition. Remember it is an ideology that was made to do away with the social stratification and socioeconomic classes and meant to really make everyone equal in terms of work and rewards. From each according to their means, to each according to their needs. Of course you will have ppl that will have different responsibilities and some may have to take over the role of leading or overseeing certain things however a dictator has no place in true socialism... Not to mention in NAZI Germany there was most definitely social stratification and a hierarchy of wealth and status

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Csomme

Hahaha, what the fuck. I just got mind-fucked. I've never known someone to have such extremes.

mantas

He is, he is being an idiot in the rice 2.0 thread. Haha

Walperstyle

Has it ever occurred that you think you are so right, that you simply are ignoring others here to hear yourself talk? You never even watched the two video's I posted.

watch the first one

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kingkilburn

You can't blame one man for something that had to go through the house and senate. A lot of hands were in that pot and all Obama called for was healthcare of some kind. If you don't like it blame all of them.

Economically speaking fascism is when the government owns and controls business(think postal service not GM). Having one person in control is a dictatorship. They are not one and the same. If your only choice is to shop at the government store that is fascism in my eyes. This mandate is forcing me to shop when I otherwise wouldn't.



Demonizing socialism because those governments claimed it is the same as demonizing atheism because Stalin was atheist. Clearly the goal of the countries you listed was absolute domination and control. Those are separate goals from socialism.

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kingkilburn

I wont be watching or reading anything from you. You have proven to me and others the kind of shitty scum of the earth person you are. You are always either trolling(as you are now) or arguing based on assumptions of reality and half truths with no evidence.

I am open to many things but they must be proven to me with evidence and good arguments. Simply attacking me and my ideas is neither of those.

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Walperstyle

I'd saying you are calling the kettle black, but you'd probably say that is racist of me.

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mantas

What the f are you talking about? Have you lost it completely? Where does this racist crap come from? Really, who are you?

TougeSR20Kid

Lol über troll will troll definitely...

But seriously this thread just got back to business as usual and then you shit it up again. Ur not even getting posts out of this so just leave, you've lost, u know it's bad when ppl that were arguing with each other over the last 4 pages are all siding with each other to tell u ur wrong and a troll

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Phlip

See, he is taking trolling to the next level.
Apparently, based upon a previous thread, he has a vendetta against kingkilburn and now he is more interested in being under his skin than to make any sort of debate on the topic at hand. There again, he is from Canuckistan and will not be voting on this topic in November and perhaps he SHOULD shut up on the topic.

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kingkilburn

So rumor has it Chris Christie will be the Republican running mate.

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Phlip

The funniest part about this rumor is that the longer the primaries last, the longer the eventual winner will have to wait to announce who will run with him, thus FURTHER weakening an already weak (in terms of overall electability) field of candidates.
I cannot imagine WHO any of the remaining candidates would pick as a running mate.

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kingkilburn

Ron + Rand Paul 2012.

JK
Rand is nuts.

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mantas

Why is he nuts?

kingkilburn

He is the type of crazy extreme right tea party follower that contradicts themselves with every new statement. It's hard for me to believe that Ron is his father. They seem to share next to no ideological ideas.

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slowvia

Well you know I was just kidding about the John Bohener part

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kingkilburn

We'll do what ever we want and call it conservatism.
Republican Party of the United States of America

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kingkilburn

The Republican primaries should have come down to Ron Paul and John Huntsman, with Huntsman likely winning the nomination. Two actual conservatives in a field of religious yahoos and a few leeches.

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