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Old 07-05-2012, 07:59 PM   #1
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Maybe this is enough for you idiots. For you morons. You Liberals. Maybe this is enough to get you to change your mind and stop being so open-minded to the point that it's just an act to look like you aren't a bigot (phlip). You are all going to hate your future and now you are acting like it won't happen just because you don't look stupid. I hope you all go crazy.

PJ Media » Homeland Security: You’re All ‘Militia Extremists’ Now

This time next year it will be a crime to speak against Obama. The Nazi's didn't build ovens until 1943. Baby steps, people. Baby steps. They are laying the framework.

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They didn't make any new laws. Its still illegal to use violence as a form of protest.
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Don't bother, it's not like it matters.

"Do you even read the articles you post", what a stupid comment. I'm now a militia extremist because I like what the country is supposed to be instead of what the bastard wants it to be.

Say what you want, it won't be long now. Violent protests don't happen if the oppressors don't infringe on rights given by founders who explicitly state that it is ok and will always be ok (not anymore) to own guns. There is no violence here. They are instigating into violence so they can capitalize on it and idiots like what seems to be every one anymore are too stupid to realize it's the people and not guns that kill (obviously), and unless they cut our hands off (don't bet on that they won't) they can't stop it. But they will try to find a way around it. I'm sure you all will like what we will be forced to do. Keep debating it like it's not or will never come to fruition, I'm sure it won't for you. I never understood how Liberals are always oppressed.

If anyone was intelligent (non-existent) this:
Groups or individuals who facilitate or engage in acts of violence directed at federal, state, or local government officials or infrastructure in response to their belief that the government deliberately is stripping Americans of their freedoms and is attempting to establish a totalitarian regime.

HAHAHA, why would the Department of Homeland Security write this if it wasn't happening? If the government was doing what it's supposed to be doing, then this wouldn't be necessary. Ever. Did you not think that? Or did you think at all?

These individuals consequently oppose many federal and state authorities’ laws and regulations, (particularly those related to firearms ownership), and often belong to armed paramilitary groups.

That's funny, I didn't know they were supposed to be actively creating laws on firearms ownership.


Do you not understand how it is you do something someone else doesn't want you to do? You walk on thin ice very carefully, not with sharp skates. You create fail-safes incase they get wise and then say, "Oh see? Here! Here! This law says you can't do this, or you're taxed" haha, I almost laughed at the last bit.
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Don't bother, it's not like it matters.

"Do you even read the articles you post", what a stupid comment. I'm now a militia extremist because I like what the country is supposed to be instead of what the bastard wants it to be.
Well, you did not read the article. And that is not what the DHS memo says. I do not expect you to be able to understand or comprehend that, but this is just so you sleep better at night.

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Say what you want, it won't be long now. Violent protests don't happen if the oppressors don't infringe on rights given by founders who explicitly state that it is ok and will always be ok (not anymore) to own guns. There is no violence here. They are instigating into violence so they can capitalize on it and idiots like what seems to be every one anymore are too stupid to realize it's the people and not guns that kill (obviously), and unless they cut our hands off (don't bet on that they won't) they can't stop it. But they will try to find a way around it. I'm sure you all will like what we will be forced to do. Keep debating it like it's not or will never come to fruition, I'm sure it won't for you. I never understood how Liberals are always oppressed.
I do not think you understand what the 2nd amendment says or what it means. No one is infringing on any 2nd amendment right. Obama actually expanded 2nd amendment rights so I do not know you are talking about (funny, neither do you!). They are going to cut our hands off? I thought Chris Rock had a better idea, just make bullets really expensive .

And who said liberals were oppressed? Dude, how many people are talking inside that tiny head of yours? This is getting, well, alarming. TAKE THE MEDS.

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You do realize that homegrown terrorism is real right? Timothy McVeigh was a real dude, with real hatred for the government, that shit actually happened. Not to mention it was last year when a guy flew his airplane into an IRS building down in Texas. Yes, militia groups are extremely dangerous when they become radicalized. I would make some snarky comment about you being a idiot right wing nut job, but you are way past that. Honestly... I am surprised you can keep your hatred down enough to own a Japanese made vehicle. When you work on your car do you just yell out racial slurs at it all day? <--serious question.

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HAHAHA, why would the Department of Homeland Security write this if it wasn't happening? If the government was doing what it's supposed to be doing, then this wouldn't be necessary. Ever. Did you not think that? Or did you think at all?

These individuals consequently oppose many federal and state authorities’ laws and regulations, (particularly those related to firearms ownership), and often belong to armed paramilitary groups.

That's funny, I didn't know they were supposed to be actively creating laws on firearms ownership.
I am not sure how the government is not doing what it is suppose to be doing? I am pretty sure DHS is suppose to do this, but I dunno, maybe you know more about DHS then EVEEEERRRYYYONE else. What law was created? Seriously, explain where you are getting this. You make Alex Jones look, not crazy. Very impressive.


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Do you not understand how it is you do something someone else doesn't want you to do? You walk on thin ice very carefully, not with sharp skates. You create fail-safes incase they get wise and then say, "Oh see? Here! Here! This law says you can't do this, or you're taxed" haha, I almost laughed at the last bit.
So Barack is ice skating with dull skates? He is the prez, can he not get them sharpened? They created fail safes? where? The government is allowed to tax... right? So taxes are going to create the new Nazi regime (headed by a black guy?) which will then take away your power to call the prez a big fat jerk, which will then take away your 2nd amendment guns? Is that this post was about? I am sorry the crazy got me really lost.
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I do not think you understand what the 2nd amendment says or what it means. No one is infringing on any 2nd amendment right. Obama actually expanded 2nd amendment rights so I do not know you are talking about (funny, neither do you!). They are going to cut our hands off? I thought Chris Rock had a better idea, just make bullets really expensive .
2nd amendment rights aren't infringed?
Obama expanded our 2nd amendment rights?
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2nd amendment rights aren't infringed?
Obama expanded our 2nd amendment rights?
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I know the article is 2 years old, but little if anything has changed. By "expansion" I am specifically referring to the repeal of a Regan era law that outlawed firearms in national parks.

I am not sure what you are asking by saying rights are infringed. Technically, any law or regulation can be considered an "infringement." So I guess you can say that the government infringes on an absolute right of owning whatever type of firearm, but then again, that is not what the 2nd amendment is.
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All of you laughing mark my words and remember them. They will be true..

Look for the second amendment being erased in his second term.

This and no other is the root from which a tyrant springs; when he first appears he is a protector.
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Founding fathers gave us the right to bear arms for one reason - to protect ourselves against the tyranny of government. Just a thought for the libs...
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If you are violent you will be put down, that is how I read that. Why would anyone care about people preaching about their rights being taken away in a peaceful manner?
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Oh, Origin...
You're not only bigoted, but apparently have a hard time justifying your opinion when questioned. You should probably do yourself the favor of shutting up.

But hey, the aim is apparently not to BE a bigot for the things you say, so long as no one makes an obvious connection to call you on it, huh?
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Maybe this is enough for you idiots. For you morons. You Liberals. Maybe this is enough to get you to change your mind and stop being so open-minded to the point that it's just an act to look like you aren't a bigot (phlip). You are all going to hate your future and now you are acting like it won't happen just because you don't look stupid. I hope you all go crazy.
Hey Buddy! Are you back? I mean you have a lot of catching up to do. There are like 4 other threads you need to go in and spill some crazy. Anyway, no this is not enough. Why did you have to call us Idiots AND Morons? That is a bit excessive RWNJ. I do not think bigot means what you think it means either. Further, I think you are going to hate your own future. If these post as of late are a representation of the pinnacle of your intellect, you are in for a very, and I mean VERY, sad life.

Further, I agree with everyone else above, lay off the bath salts... they will turn you into this-->

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This time next year it will be a crime to speak against Obama. The Nazi's didn't build ovens until 1943. Baby steps, people. Baby steps. They are laying the framework.

I love America. What does that make me?
I do not know what a PJ media is. It must be something really awesome. Why is Obama waiting till this time next year? That assumes he wins the next election, and then what would be the point of enacting the law then? What is the nefarious plan? If you know, you have a duty to tell all your fellow Americans. Do not be the one guy who knew the whole time and did not tell anyone. Dick.
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i don't like the DHS either. but the way you state your case, it's much easier to just attack you for being a biased douche, rather than bother with whatever you're trying to debate. i think if i ever met you, i'd probably pull my dick out and chase you around, out of spite.
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Origin, how close am I?

Step 1. Wake up, start dial up connection

Step 2. Go to DRUDGE REPORT 2012®

Step 3. Read headline "Obama presidency challenged"

Step 4. Jerk off to Orly Taitz

Step 5. Eat bowl of cereal

Step 6. Click on drudge link, realizes sending you to world net daily, jerk off again to the ghost of Brietbart just because - - Obama’s Social Security Number challenged

Step 7. Read that Obama has fake social security number!!!!!

Step 8. GIFSoup

Step 9. Comment and say words like "Libruls" "America" "Rights" "God" "Communist" "Guns" "Blacks"

Step 10. Make post on Ziliva then smart people on internet explain that social security numbers have nothing to do with becoming president...

PS. I put A LOT of effort into this post... I expect something in return.
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Like I said, it doesn't matter. I'm not sure why you all feel the need to to try and put me down, over the internet. You must be insulted. Your freedoms are being taken away ever so slowly, just give it time. He's had a lot of time already.
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Like I said, it doesn't matter. I'm not sure why you all feel the need to to try and put me down, over the internet. You must be insulted. Your freedoms are being taken away ever so slowly, just give it time. He's had a lot of time already.
What doesn't matter? If it does not matter then why post? Honestly, I would put you down on the internet, in a classroom, at a bar, really I could care less where it was. I am not sure what I am suppose to be insulted by? Is it that you posted some crazy shit and because crazy people exist that insults me? Not quite sure where you are going with that one either.


Name a freedom that has slowly been taken away. Name one. And give more then some one word answer like GUNS! Seriously, try hard and find some facts to back it up. Facts... not a random blog post.

Here, how about this... If you make a valid point, I will jump to your side and give you some great material (I mean I already gave you Posner... but who knows if you can even read). But it has to be valid, and supported. No one liners here buddy.



PS... so that last post got it right huh? Do not worry bro, Beck will stay on radio for a long time, maybe. As for Orly, I guess I can see why you RWNJ's think shes the bees knees... but... ehhh really?
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Origin, how close am I?

Step 1. Wake up, start dial up connection

Step 2. Go to DRUDGE REPORT 2012®

Step 3. Read headline "Obama presidency challenged"

Step 4. Jerk off to Orly Taitz

Step 5. Eat bowl of cereal

Step 6. Click on drudge link, realizes sending you to world net daily, jerk off again to the ghost of Brietbart just because - - Obama’s Social Security Number challenged

Step 7. Read that Obama has fake social security number!!!!!

Step 8. GIFSoup

Step 9. Comment and say words like "Libruls" "America" "Rights" "God" "Communist" "Guns" "Blacks"

Step 10. Make post on Ziliva then smart people on internet explain that social security numbers have nothing to do with becoming president...

PS. I put A LOT of effort into this post... I expect something in return.

You put forth effort the way Michelle tries to resist fries.
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You put forth effort the way Michelle tries to resist fries.
I never understood this attack on Michelle being fat? I mean I get it she is all about healthy foods and that is somehow communism, but she is in shape. You mad bro that she has better arms then you?

And again, your analogy sucks. It does not even work. What you are referring to his someones lack of restraint, where as I am coming at it in a sarcastic manner.

What you should have said is "It looks like you put as much effort into that post, as Michelle puts into working out"

See how that works? Because you would be saying Hey you are being sarcastic in saying you try when you do not, Like Michele who talks about how much she works out when she does not. Seriously, grade school man.
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There are posts in this thread that responses to would sooner help whatever message the OP is attempting to promote, but as usual he is ignoring those and trying to play the insults game. I am far from surprised at this approach. It seems that the very instant someone questions him, he calls them a “liberal,” apparently hoping that will be enough to get them off of him, and when that doesn’t work he simply stops responding and starts a new thread a couple days later.

All this and he expects us to believe that he is NOT only 23 years old. This is laughable on one hand, but quite sad on the other.
What is funny about this approach is that not even the more conservative members of Zilvia are attempting to save him in this. It is almost as if they are as entertained by the shellacking he takes as those who give it out.
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There are posts in this thread that responses to would sooner help whatever message the OP is attempting to promote, but as usual he is ignoring those and trying to play the insults game. I am far from surprised at this approach. It seems that the very instant someone questions him, he calls them a “liberal,” apparently hoping that will be enough to get them off of him, and when that doesn’t work he simply stops responding and starts a new thread a couple days later.

All this and he expects us to believe that he is NOT only 23 years old. This is laughable on one hand, but quite sad on the other.
What is funny about this approach is that not even the more conservative members of Zilvia are attempting to save him in this. It is almost as if they are as entertained by the shellacking he takes as those who give it out.
Still with the age game. Quit acting like a child, at 33 (birthday recently?) you should be working on a Friday. Inb4 I have no job in which yes, I am off.
I obviously have picked a nerve with you and I'm glad for it. I hope it irritates you to no end. I'm not sure why I would respond to intentional insults, you would think at 33 you would be smarter in the ways of making an ass of someone. But then again, the insulting of another shouldn't be practiced per se, so if you actually do at some other point try to restrain yourself, congratulations.

Anyway, I label someone a liberal because they have the intrinsic qualities of one. No sense to call a goose a moose.

Again I ask, why would I not spread what is happening before our eyes? If you still think that Obama isn't a radical extremist who hates the freedom of liberty and the American people, then you sir, are a bigot.
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Still with the age game. Quit acting like a child, at 33 (birthday recently?) you should be working on a Friday. Inb4 I have no job in which yes, I am off.
I obviously have picked a nerve with you and I'm glad for it. I hope it irritates you to no end. I'm not sure why I would respond to intentional insults, you would think at 33 you would be smarter in the ways of making an ass of someone. But then again, the insulting of another shouldn't be practiced per se, so if you actually do at some other point try to restrain yourself, congratulations.

Anyway, I label someone a liberal because they have the intrinsic qualities of one. No sense to call a goose a moose.

Again I ask, why would I not spread what is happening before our eyes? If you still think that Obama isn't a radical extremist who hates the freedom of liberty and the American people, then you sir, are a bigot.
Just because someone doesn't work on a certain date means nothing. I work 4 10's. So me not working on Monday and Tuesday means something?

LOL, you have yet to show the liberties that are being taken away.

Bigot = : a person who is obstinately or intolerantly devoted to his or her own opinions and prejudices; especially : one who regards or treats the members of a group (as a racial or ethnic group) with hatred and intolerance

so that would place you into that definition if you disregard the ethnic group part out.
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Still with the age game. Quit acting like a child, at 33 (birthday recently?) you should be working on a Friday. Inb4 I have no job in which yes, I am off.
No, I choose to call you on your age because of how YOU respond to people, not because I am particularly bothered. If I were as childish and petty as you seem to think I am then I would have long since made your whole account and IP addresses disappear from this forum, but I do not operate like that.
And not that it is any of your business, but I am at work. My mortgage doesn’t pay itself, so I have never been without a job since age 16 – back when you were seven years old.
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I obviously have picked a nerve with you and I'm glad for it. I hope it irritates you to no end. I'm not sure why I would respond to intentional insults, you would think at 33 you would be smarter in the ways of making an ass of someone. But then again, the insulting of another shouldn't be practiced per se, so if you actually do at some other point try to restrain yourself, congratulations.
Wrong again, the nerve you’ve touched is the one that causes me and several other people to ask you to be more specific with these silly-ass claims that you make about what Obama is trying to take from us, and instead of answering ANYONE directly, you call names, call people morons and change the subject.
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Anyway, I label someone a liberal because they have the intrinsic qualities of one. No sense to call a goose a moose.
No, you label people because you have no real response to offer otherwise, lord knows you can’t be bothered to respond to people when they make a pointed request for you to substantiate what you claim as if it is truth.
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Again I ask, why would I not spread what is happening before our eyes? If you still think that Obama isn't a radical extremist who hates the freedom of liberty and the American people, then you sir, are a bigot.
You’re not spreading ANYTHING. You’re trotting out asinine and unfounded claims as undisputable truth, and when someone disputes it, you take it back to grade school instead of responding. If my enjoyment of watching EVERY LITTLE THING you say picked apart and you not effectively defend yourself makes me a bigot, then I will be that.






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so that would place you into that definition if you disregard the ethnic group part out.
Look through his other posts in this section, he fits in that one too
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No, I choose to call you on your age because of how YOU respond to people, not because I am particularly bothered. If I were as childish and petty as you seem to think I am then I would have long since made your whole account and IP addresses disappear from this forum, but I do not operate like that.
And not that it is any of your business, but I am at work. My mortgage doesn’t pay itself, so I have never been without a job since age 16 – back when you were seven years old.

Wrong again, the nerve you’ve touched is the one that causes me and several other people to ask you to be more specific with these silly-ass claims that you make about what Obama is trying to take from us, and instead of answering ANYONE directly, you call names, call people morons and change the subject.

I suppose I beg for someone to think for themselves. I'm no "brainwasher". The only thing most of you are concerned with is putting me down (yes, that is childish). If you are at work, then do your work.

Then go ahead, ask me to defend one of my viewpoints and I will give you a straight answer.
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Still with the age game. Quit acting like a child, at 33 (birthday recently?) you should be working on a Friday. Inb4 I have no job in which yes, I am off.
So at 23 shouldn't you be working friday as well? Your posts are very hypocritical most of the time. I mean you had an entire thread talking down upon gay people based on a video/picture and have the nerve to call anyone a bigot.
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So at 23 shouldn't you be working friday as well? You're posts are very hypocritical most of the time.
if which yes, I am off.
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