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ronmcdon · 04-25-2011, 04:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Otto347

lol im sure he was filming with the intent to help Mcds out in case of a lawsuit. All he wanted was to become youtube famous for posting the video.

I found that to be fairly obvious as well.
The remarks he made didn't give him credibility either.
Besides, there's a good chance McD's already has their own camera.

Piece of shit got off easy by getting fired imo.
These internet 'camera-men' are just a whole new breed of scum.
Sure he can sue McD's, I just don't see a case.
Now the transgendered individual can probably sue him for harassment, & I'd love to see that happen.

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Originally Posted by ESmorz

Fucking video culture, people stand around and videotape things now and hope everything will be alright, rather than actually intervening when someone is getting beat to death. If those were full grown guys fighting I could understand not wanting to get in the middle of it, but what self respecting man can't lay down the law in this situation?

I don't think video culture helps at all.
It just reinforces bad behavior by giving the perps more attention if anything.

nathanong87 · 04-25-2011, 04:36 PM

i dont understand how people can see a situation like that happen and the first thing they think of is "lemme bust out my smart phone to capture it".... horrible.

Okinawandrifter87 · 04-25-2011, 04:38 PM

Seriously this makes me sad that society has come to this... its utterly disgusting and makes me want to take justice in my own hands even though I would be just as wrong as those two nasty things that we call girls.

Otto347 · 04-25-2011, 04:40 PM

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Originally Posted by ronmcdon

I don't think video culture helps at all.
It just reinforces bad behavior by giving the perps more attention if anything.

Bingo.......

saleaf · 04-25-2011, 04:42 PM

This is crazy to me. I would have intervened and beat down those two girls or at least gotten the victim out of there. I dont understand how people can just stand there and watch something like that happen. Hopefully those two girls get what they deserve.

lflkajfj12123 · 04-25-2011, 04:45 PM

*young adults mind*

lets see should i possibly stop this girl from getting brain damage

or

youtube paycheck!? PARTY PARTY PARTY

BOROSUN · 04-25-2011, 04:46 PM

violence is pretty much common around the world. woke up hearing the news about syrian secret police killing protesters. reminds me stories of the dirty war killings.

here what's happening over there... warning very graphic.

scary world

saleaf · 04-25-2011, 04:50 PM

I think this thread just took a bad turn..

BOROSUN · 04-25-2011, 04:57 PM

ooh yeah. msg

ESmorz · 04-25-2011, 05:10 PM

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Originally Posted by BOROSUN

violence is pretty much common around the world. woke up hearing the news about syrian secret police killing protesters. reminds me stories of the dirty war killings.

here what's happening over there... warning very graphic.

scary world

Yeah but this isn't Syria, and those weren't secret police. They were 14 year old pieces of ghetto trash.

Although, Baltimore isn't much better.

niscur29 · 04-25-2011, 05:20 PM

Having recently moved from FL to MD I have never seen/heard of so much beatings/killings in as short of a timespan as I have been up here. This just makes me sick to my stomach and even more anxious to get back to FL. It's time for people to just stand up and help someone in obvious need of help. Why the manager did not bother to lock the doors once they left initially is beyond me. So sad to see that chick get bragged by her hair. FL is not perfect but from what I've seen northeastern md and dc are some areas that need some tactical nuke action.

Curious though.....would a bystander with a concealed permit been able to fend of the hoods by threatening deadly force and/or using it to protect this woman?

sidewaysil80 · 04-25-2011, 05:34 PM

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Originally Posted by niscur29

Curious though.....would a bystander with a concealed permit been able to fend of the hoods by threatening deadly force and/or using it to protect this woman?

yes, however...actual use of deadly force (which doesn't mean JUST killing someone, shooting someone in the leg is deadly force as well fyi) would be questionable. one of the justifications of deadly force is in self defense or defense of others...so "yes", you could use it. BUT before you even get to that point you would have to use the continuam(sp?) of force...i.e. verbal commands to contact contact controls, contact controls to defense tactics, defensive tactics to deadly force. and like i said, whether you shoot someone in the foot or in the head it's ALWAYS deadly force.

verbatim: deadly force is that force which a person uses with the purpose of causing death or serious bodily harm, or which a reasonable and prudent person would consider likely to create a substantial risk of causing death or serious bodily harm.

RentonD · 04-25-2011, 05:41 PM

I'm actually rather curious in how the whole fight began.

IbarraZ33 · 04-25-2011, 05:43 PM

Trans gender woman was in the bathroom.

2 african americans approached her and spit in her face and said, " Why you talking to my boy?"

trans gender, " I didn't even know"

Then they go at it !

STUPID !

IN DETAIL : (I went to go use the bathroom. Come back out, the girl spit in my face, said, 'Are you trying to talk to my man?' I said, `No, I didn't even know that was your man at all.' The other girl came up, spit in my face, then they started ripping my hair, throwing me on the floor,")

gearhead55 · 04-25-2011, 05:47 PM

the link that someone posted earlier explains. The two chicks were basically just looking for a fight.

That video seriously made me sick. There is no way that i would have not intervened in that situation. I don't care if the attacker was a teenage girl, if i saw someone beat and then drag a girl by her hair like that i would crack her in the fucking face.

Its disgusting that there were people there just sitting back and watching that happen. A bunch of spineless moral-less pieces of shit.

sidewaysil80 · 04-25-2011, 05:47 PM

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Originally Posted by RentonD

I'm actually rather curious in how the whole fight began.

regardless it just shows how worthless and parasitic ghetto folk are. really, the old lady had to get involved because the whole fleet of workers were too worried about catching that youtube paycheck to do something. the funny thing is i guarantee no hate crime charges will be filed and somehow or another the good jesse jackson or al sharpton is going to attempt to turn this around to make the attackers look like the "victums"

CrazyIvan · 04-25-2011, 06:01 PM

dude got beat up by two girls... i dont know whats worse, everyone here calling that dude a "girl" or the other two girls acting like men and fighting...

KiLLeR2001 · 04-25-2011, 06:08 PM

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Originally Posted by gearhead55

the link that someone posted earlier explains. The two chicks were basically just looking for a fight.

That video seriously made me sick. There is no way that i would have not intervened in that situation. I don't care if the attacker was a teenage girl, if i saw someone beat and then drag a girl by her hair like that i would crack her in the fucking face.

Its disgusting that there were people there just sitting back and watching that happen. A bunch of spineless moral-less pieces of shit.

I agree with you here, but the victim was a MALE with a sex change operation. If you see two girls beating up a gay guy, do you still intervene?

When I first saw this video I felt terrible thinking it was some poor innocent white girl getting beat down by two blacks (hate crime). Then, I later found out it was a trans-gender male. While I do agree that what the black girls did was wrong, all we have seen is the video, and what the victim has said. No one really knows what went on in that bathroom prior to the event. As the trans-gender gentlemen admitted to being intoxicated during the incident.

Theres always three sides to the story, and we only have one.

*holemilk00* · 04-25-2011, 06:23 PM

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Originally Posted by KiLLeR2001

I agree with you here, but the victim was a MALE with a sex change operation. If you see two girls beating up a gay guy, do you still intervene?

Yes, I would have still put both of their faces on blast, no matter what is going on in a fight, when the other person is down, its time to move on, not continue to come back and kick someone in the face, and stomp on their head.

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Originally Posted by KiLLeR2001

When I first saw this video I felt terrible thinking it was some poor innocent white girl getting beat down by two blacks (hate crime). Then, I later found out it was a trans-gender male. While I do agree that what the black girls did was wrong, all we have seen is the video, and what the victim has said. No one really knows what went on in that bathroom prior to the event. As the trans-gender gentlemen admitted to being intoxicated during the incident.

Intoxicated or not, two on one is never a fair fight, and since you brought it up, I'll go on record as saying it is highly unlikely that a transgendered male would start a fight with two hood rat ass girls, even after a bar full of Tequila shots. Transgendered doesn't mean stupid.

Yes there are three sides to this story, victim, attacker, and the truth. But it seems like only one person has even bothered to tell their version, and to me that speaks VOLUMES.

I live in a suburb of Detroit, so violence is a way of life for most younger people just a little north of me, but even still, this is up there with beating old people to death (which is the recent craze in Detroit). I also find it ironic that the race that the term and laws behind "Hate Crimes" were brought to bare for are the attackers here showing complete intolerance.

KiLLeR2001 · 04-25-2011, 06:31 PM

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Originally Posted by holemilk00

Yes, I would have still put both of their faces on blast, no matter what is going on in a fight, when the other person is down, its time to move on, not continue to come back and kick someone in the face, and stomp on their head.

Intoxicated or not, two on one is never a fair fight, and since you brought it up, I'll go on record as saying it is highly unlikely that a transgendered male would start a fight with two hood rat ass girls, even after a bar full of Tequila shots. Transgendered doesn't mean stupid.

Yes there are three sides to this story, victim, attacker, and the truth. But it seems like only one person has even bothered to tell their version, and to me that speaks VOLUMES.

I live in a suburb of Detroit, so violence is a way of life for most younger people just a little north of me, but even still, this is up there with beating old people to death (which is the recent craze in Detroit). I also find it ironic that the race that the term and laws behind "Hate Crimes" were brought to bare for are the attackers here showing complete intolerance.

I agree with your statements 99%. My questions were merely to gauge responses.

Now the 1% I don't agree with is this statement...

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Originally Posted by holemilk00

Transgendered doesn't mean stupid.

There has to be something malfunctioning in that person's mind if they think it is rational to have a sex change operation performed on their body. If you told me you were planning on getting a sex change, I would call you an idiot (but in a friendly way).

Darren · 04-25-2011, 06:34 PM

You guys can say what you want about the guy taking the video, but i think it was a good thing to do.

Without this video, it's a lot of hearsay and some witnesses that probably wouldn't have gotten involved.

The real people that should be looked at are the ones laughing in the background. OK i can see not stepping in for fear of getting shanked or whatever, but call the cops and don't make light of someone being beaten half to death.

As for the person who made the video, unless they were part of the plot to beat on the victim, that person should NOT have been fired, if anything should have been given praise for documenting it.

Also, the violent suggestions in this thread as to how to deal with these two petty women are just as bad as they are. Let the legal system deal with them, and hope someone learns from this.

Darren · 04-25-2011, 06:36 PM

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Originally Posted by KiLLeR2001

There has to be something malfunctioning in that person's mind if they think it is rational to have a sex change operation performed on their body. If you told me you were planning on getting a sex change, I would call you an idiot (but in a friendly way).

You are entitled to call someone an idiot, however not to beat them 1/2 to death i think is the moral here...

Daniel. · 04-25-2011, 06:37 PM

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Originally Posted by KiLLeR2001

I agree with your statements 99%. My questions were merely to gauge responses.

Now the 1% I don't agree with is this statement...

There has to be something malfunctioning in that person's mind if they think it is rational to have a sex change operation performed on their body. If you told me you were planning on getting a sex change, I would call you an idiot (but in a friendly way).

That's highly subjective without some data to back it up. I'd like to see some facts.

Darren · 04-25-2011, 06:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Daniel.

That's highly subjective without some data to back it up. I'd like to see some facts.

Regardless .... there are no beatings for being flawed, if there were, we'd all deserve a beating...

*holemilk00* · 04-25-2011, 06:43 PM

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Originally Posted by KiLLeR2001

There has to be something malfunctioning in that person's mind if they think it is rational to have a sex change operation performed on their body. If you told me you were planning on getting a sex change, I would call you an idiot (but in a friendly way).

I did my undergrad in psychology a few years back when all the buzz was about transgendered people and the recent findings of estrogen levels in mothers during the development of the hypothalamus, which determines gender behavior. The findings say that it is possible for the physical (body) to begin developing towards one sex, and then an imbalance of estrogen to cause the brain to develop towards the other. Basically ending in a child that has the body of one sex, but the mind and mannerism of the opposite. This is NOT to be applied to homosexuality so don't think I'm going there with this. But I think this shows my reasoning for saying that a transgendered person is not inherently stupid.

Here is a quick little link because I don't feel like hunting for the one from the University that did the research.
In Womb Development

tricky_ab · 04-25-2011, 07:00 PM

Update: both girls have been arrested and are being charged with assault. Police records show that the 18 year old girl assaulted another woman in the same McDonalds about a year ago.

Also the lady who tried to help and got punched in the fact said even though the video is only 3 minutes long, the assault lasted for about 10.

http://www.baltimoresun.com/news/maryland/bs-md-mcdonalds-beating-case

sleep · 04-25-2011, 07:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Daniel.

Legally, I agree with you.

On the other hand, this is why bad things keep happening in our society. When good people sit back and do nothing.

I woulda put both of them down in a heart beat.

sleep · 04-25-2011, 07:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Daniel.

That's highly subjective without some data to back it up. I'd like to see some facts.

Don't even bother. He is obviously a completely ignorant individual.

gearhead55 · 04-25-2011, 07:36 PM

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Originally Posted by KiLLeR2001

I agree with you here, but the victim was a MALE with a sex change operation. If you see two girls beating up a gay guy, do you still intervene?

I dont care what gender the people involved identify with, if i saw anyone dragging another person by the hair and stomping on their head i would most definitely intervene.

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Originally Posted by holemilk00

Yes, I would have still put both of their faces on blast, no matter what is going on in a fight, when the other person is down, its time to move on, not continue to come back and kick someone in the face, and stomp on their head.

exactly. especially since this went on for 3 minutes at minimum, 10 minutes allegedly.

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Originally Posted by Darren

Also, the violent suggestions in this thread as to how to deal with these two petty women are just as bad as they are. Let the legal system deal with them, and hope someone learns from this.

I say fuck that. You clearly see a dude try and break up the fight multiple times and every time the girls come back and continue to stomp and hair-drag. In a situation like that i cannot see a way to prevent the beating from continuing other than physically stopping the attackers. Yes the legal system should serve the ultimate punishment, but i can't see how anybody with a conscious could not get physically involved.

aziankingz · 04-25-2011, 07:38 PM

This world and generation is fucked up.. the other day i read an article about a bunch of teens in florida lured a 15 year old kid to a house, beat him, shot him a few times, dumped his body in a fire pit and put his ashes in a bunch of paint cans..

Six People Accused of Killing Florida Teen, Burning His Body - FoxNews.com

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lflkajfj12123 Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: 　　　　　　　　 Posts: 8,480 Trader Rating: (20) Feedback Score: 20 reviews	young adults mind lets see should i possibly stop this girl from getting brain damage or youtube paycheck!? PARTY PARTY PARTY

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BOROSUN Post Whore! Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: two legit to quit Age: 41 Posts: 5,211 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	violence is pretty much common around the world. woke up hearing the news about syrian secret police killing protesters. reminds me stories of the dirty war killings. here what's happening over there... warning very graphic. scary world

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BOROSUN Post Whore! Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: two legit to quit Age: 41 Posts: 5,211 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	ooh yeah. msg

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niscur29 Zilvia Junkie Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: Back IN FL, bring nice cars to the fail state! Age: 40 Posts: 481 Trader Rating: (14) Feedback Score: 14 reviews	Having recently moved from FL to MD I have never seen/heard of so much beatings/killings in as short of a timespan as I have been up here. This just makes me sick to my stomach and even more anxious to get back to FL. It's time for people to just stand up and help someone in obvious need of help. Why the manager did not bother to lock the doors once they left initially is beyond me. So sad to see that chick get bragged by her hair. FL is not perfect but from what I've seen northeastern md and dc are some areas that need some tactical nuke action. Curious though.....would a bystander with a concealed permit been able to fend of the hoods by threatening deadly force and/or using it to protect this woman?

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RentonD Leaky Injector Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Waterford, MI Age: 29 Posts: 143 Trader Rating: (2) Feedback Score: 2 reviews	I'm actually rather curious in how the whole fight began.

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IbarraZ33 Leaky Injector Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: SOCAL Posts: 49 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Trans gender woman was in the bathroom. 2 african americans approached her and spit in her face and said, " Why you talking to my boy?" trans gender, " I didn't even know" Then they go at it ! STUPID ! IN DETAIL : (I went to go use the bathroom. Come back out, the girl spit in my face, said, 'Are you trying to talk to my man?' I said, `No, I didn't even know that was your man at all.' The other girl came up, spit in my face, then they started ripping my hair, throwing me on the floor,")

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gearhead55 Zilvia FREAK! Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: VENICE, CA Posts: 1,363 Trader Rating: (4) Feedback Score: 4 reviews	the link that someone posted earlier explains. The two chicks were basically just looking for a fight. That video seriously made me sick. There is no way that i would have not intervened in that situation. I don't care if the attacker was a teenage girl, if i saw someone beat and then drag a girl by her hair like that i would crack her in the fucking face. Its disgusting that there were people there just sitting back and watching that happen. A bunch of spineless moral-less pieces of shit.

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CrazyIvan Nissanaholic! Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Kissimmee, FL Age: 39 Posts: 1,820 Trader Rating: (8) Feedback Score: 8 reviews	dude got beat up by two girls... i dont know whats worse, everyone here calling that dude a "girl" or the other two girls acting like men and fighting...

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Darren Zilvia Addict Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: kelowna, bc, canada Age: 45 Posts: 680 Trader Rating: (1) Feedback Score: 1 reviews	You guys can say what you want about the guy taking the video, but i think it was a good thing to do. Without this video, it's a lot of hearsay and some witnesses that probably wouldn't have gotten involved. The real people that should be looked at are the ones laughing in the background. OK i can see not stepping in for fear of getting shanked or whatever, but call the cops and don't make light of someone being beaten half to death. As for the person who made the video, unless they were part of the plot to beat on the victim, that person should NOT have been fired, if anything should have been given praise for documenting it. Also, the violent suggestions in this thread as to how to deal with these two petty women are just as bad as they are. Let the legal system deal with them, and hope someone learns from this.

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tricky_ab Post Whore! Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: It's dark, and hell is hot! Posts: 9,413 Trader Rating: (23) Feedback Score: 23 reviews	Update: both girls have been arrested and are being charged with assault. Police records show that the 18 year old girl assaulted another woman in the same McDonalds about a year ago. Also the lady who tried to help and got punched in the fact said even though the video is only 3 minutes long, the assault lasted for about 10. http://www.baltimoresun.com/news/maryland/bs-md-mcdonalds-beating-case

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aziankingz Nissanaholic! Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: NYC Age: 38 Posts: 1,735 Trader Rating: (28) Feedback Score: 28 reviews	This world and generation is fucked up.. the other day i read an article about a bunch of teens in florida lured a 15 year old kid to a house, beat him, shot him a few times, dumped his body in a fire pit and put his ashes in a bunch of paint cans.. Six People Accused of Killing Florida Teen, Burning His Body - FoxNews.com