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Old 05-31-2011, 09:46 PM   #1
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In April 2008, Mary Brooke Oberwetter was arrested at the Jefferson Memorial while participating in an organized celebration of the 265th birthday of President Jefferson. Ms. Oberwetter and the group were dancing silently as they listened to music on headphones. She was charged with demonstrating without a permit (charge later dropped) and interfering with park police.

Oberwetter sued the arresting officer and park police for violating her first amendment right to free expression. In May 2011, the U.S. Court of Appeals upheld the arrest and conviction, confirming a lower court's finding that "the Jefferson Memorial is a nonpublic forum reserved for the tranquil commemoration of [President] Jefferson's legacy" and that Ms. Oberwetter had violated reasonable rules in place intended to maintain the monument for that purpose.

On May 29, 2011, five visitors were arrested while dancing inside the monument in protest of the court's decision. The protest and arrests were captured by numerous press and amateur photographers

As of yet, no law or documentation of law or statute indicating that this actually is illegal has been cited.
Wikipedia info... IMO they're just looking for trouble, why the hell would you dance on a memorial place? Are you happy that person died? That's disrespect IMO.
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Really not sure why they were arrested.
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Wikipedia info... IMO they're just looking for trouble, why the hell would you dance on a memorial place? Are you happy that person died? That's disrespect IMO.
It was to demonstrate a point no doubt. Kind of brilliant actually, provoke the hot headed police into abusing their power at the memorial of the founding father who fought tooth and nail to keep things like that from happening in his day.

Quote taken out of context time.

If a law is unjust, a man is not only right to disobey it, he is obligated to do so. – Thomas Jefferson
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doode one of the security guys just threw that guy down and started choking him and he wasnt resisting arrest, being a bit excessive there
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doode one of the security guys just threw that guy down and started choking him and he wasnt resisting arrest, being a bit excessive there
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I find it amusing. LOL Apparantly they are starting more TJ dance parties all over the country to protest this. Rock On!

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Yeah.. If some cop was choking me like that.. while clearly stating I wasn't under arrest.. I'd have seized on the opportunity for "self defense"
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Yeah.. If some cop was choking me like that.. while clearly stating I wasn't under arrest.. I'd have seized on the opportunity for "self defense"
lol doesn't work that way, and you'd have gotten fucked up/tazed/mace'd
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I see way too much force being used here and a whole lot of iPhones.
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I'm on the police side here. I wish more force was being exerted. People think they have a right to do whatever they want, time and place. Malls are cool, this wasn't one of thoe places
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I'm on the police side here. I wish more force was being exerted. People think they have a right to do whatever they want, time and place. Malls are cool, this wasn't one of thoe places
you hit the nail on the head. i don't understand why people have to flagrantly torment laws and legalities. fucking trouble makers man, plain and simple. it's as if they never grew out of that "class clown" status per say and evolved into more and more questionable activities/ball busting.
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lol doesn't work that way, and you'd have gotten fucked up/tazed/mace'd
and then I'd have sued for money.. no threat to the officer or crowd control issue was present.. "dancing with headphones on" isn't threatening in any sense.. although I'd have immanent danger from a rogue officer. he should have asked him to leave instead of screaming at them or body slamming him down.

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and then I'd have sued for money.. no threat to the officer or crowd control issue was present.. "dancing with headphones on" isn't threatening in any sense.. although I'd have immanent danger from a rogue officer. he should have asked him to leave instead of screaming at them or body slamming him down.

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A cop in uniform goes to put cuffs on you without saying you're under arrest or your miranda rights, you resist and you punch him in the face. You are then beaten and put under arrest for assulting a police officer.
They may give him shit for not actually saying you're under arrest but you're going to jail for assaulting a PO.
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Maybe they should have listened to the officers and not been a bunch of assholes. As far as I'm concerned they got what they deserved.
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I'm on the police side here. I wish more force was being exerted. People think they have a right to do whatever they want, time and place. Malls are cool, this wasn't one of thoe places
They do. The only reason they would of had to leave is if the memorial groundskeepers told them to leave.

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weather they were "tormenting" (i think thats a bit dramatic) the police or not is irrelevant.

they did not commit a crime, end of story. 75% of cops a douchebags because the job just attracts power hungry douche's. Ask my buddy, hes a cop and he will tell you the same thing. its the whole "respect my athoritah thing". I know alot of cool cops but I know allot more dick head power hungry scum bag cops. if you don't stand up for your rights they will be taken away, and standing up to the government is the most patriotic thing you can do.
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you hit the nail on the head. i don't understand why people have to flagrantly torment laws and legalities. fucking trouble makers man, plain and simple. it's as if they never grew out of that "class clown" status per say and evolved into more and more questionable activities/ball busting.
What? Those people did what they did to bring attention to the fact that you can be arrested for, essentially, no reason. There was no law enacted in their arrests, they were specifically asking them 'what would you be arresting us for' and the response was basically 'because I can'.

How about the park police go get all the fucking sketchy ass homeless people out of DC. DC fucking sucks, some people not shouting or screaming just hopping around with headphones on doesn't even kind of make it any more of a shit hole.
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why the fuck would you want to dance there? its not like if they repeal it, people will flock there and dance. just another thing to make noise over.
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The point.

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Lol, the cops are pretty dumb here. I think the sergeant tried to bust them from demonstrating without a permit or something like that, but the dancers denied that explicitly. As far as I know, I can't see any laws being broken. I don't see any grounds for 'public disturbance' here. No loud noises or anything that could remotely be interpreted as a hazard.

should be interesting to see how this ends up though.
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They do. The only reason they would of had to leave is if the memorial groundskeepers told them to leave.

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Being a dumbass should be in this case
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their are tons of things that aren't illegal but still frowned upon (insert jerking off on airplane reference lol). but seriously, our generation for some reason feels the need to push the envelope and essentially cause rift and uneeded drama. is their a law against dancing silently at a memorial? no, but why the fuck would you? someone even said it..."provoke the hot headed police into abusing their power". well call me old fashioned, but if they didn't provoke the police this incident never would have happened!! someone got arrested for it, they knew this but they felt the need to push the envelope and go back and do it again in protest...why?!

if a person j-walks and gets a ticket, what positive outcome is there for me to assemble 5 other people and j-walk in the same place to protest his ticket? then bitch and hate on the cops when i'm disrespectful and get arrested for doing something that i knew was wrong, knew would result in me being arrested, and did it solely to provoke the police.

i'm not defending the polices physical actions, but as usual this is one of those instances where this entire situation could have been avoided if some bleeding heart and/or ignorant person just practiced common sense and civil deceny.
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