91240sx

what is the loudest and deepest exhaust that'll keep its sound past the 5,000 rpm range? catback or universal

Muzzy

define "keep its sound"

do u mean...not change pitch??

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russian

trust DD on your N/a

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Ghettokracker71

I've only seen the Trust DD or GReddy DD on one site for the S13 and it says "for turbo applications only" ,I have a N/A KA and want the loudest,too,but I don't want to loose power for sound ?

s0ldats

you didn't specify that you wanted to keep your low end power, you just said you wanted the loudest exhaust. in that case, you're outta luck. most n/a exhuasts are rather quiet.

edit: but yeah, in general the double D is the loudest exhaust you can put on a KA besides straight pipes right after the header.

Ghettokracker71

I don't really care about low-end power loss if there is enough high-end gain,but if the exhuast is too large for a N/A application then I will loose power thorughout the RPM range...let me rephrase...with the DD will I gain any power (high,mid,low...whatever RPM range) I expect I'd loose some of that KA's famous mid range TQ

HiPSI

why would you want the loudest exhaust?

cut your exhaust off at the header and boom, super loud exhaust.

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so what's so CHEAP about the SR swap again?

Ghettokracker71

What is the best exhaust system(in everybodys opinion,or dyno-proven) that takes the least away from mid range while adding the most to high end with a nice sound ? or whats your fav. exhaust and why ? I want to make sure to do as much research as possible before investing,this car is on a budget

ewok

i think the reason is that he wants his car to sound mean even tho its a lil pussycat

Ghettokracker71

everybody loves a little pussy right....

(hah hah )

ewok

hahahahhha

Ghettokracker71

Anybody? I'm not asking about the loudest......I'm just wondering what Y'all think is best and why(IE best comprimise between low-end,mid-range and high-end HP for N/A Ka24DE,what you think sounds least like an Angry H-box and more like amean ready to rumble Nissan ?)

tranzilla

JIC exhaust systems are loud and deep. Way louder than the Apexi N1. And they come for N/A and Turbo applications. I got good gains on it =P on my GSR.. and love it to death.

If any of you live in the bay area and are interested in getting one. I got good hook ups on them.

Email : [email protected]

Muzzy

hey cracka muthafuka jus get a fuckin Apex N1 exhaust...N/A version so u wont loose as much low end but still gain high end and have a deep rumble.




hey...cracka.....didnt u hi-jack this dudes thread??
jus noticed the dude has yet to respond. i dont care...i jus noticed

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Var

I have my resonator and my muffler out right now. It's LOUD. It has the best sound from 4-6k at full throttle. Otherwise it sounds like gurgling water.
Im gonna get a 2-chamber flowmaster put on in a couple days. I bet it will sound nice

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G_Fish240

n1 single

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Ghettokracker71

If I do N1,its gonna be the N1 Dual without question,that was my first choice,but it seems like a SHITTON of people on here have that,good in alot of sences,but I just wanted to keep my options open and hear what y'all had to say about it...my main concern is that everybody says it hangs low,wich isn't too fly in my opinion....bad experience with a low-ass car (my moms old bonneville,long wheelbase and long plastic bumpers don't mix!)

Would I have much low-end and mid-range loss with a GReddy DD? I don't hear much about that,I don't like that the muff or canister is not at the stock location,nissan put it at the end of the car,and so did all the other aftermarket manufactors for a reason !

Anyway,wheres the cheapest I could get an N1 dual or GReddy DD? I been havin trouble findin people that sell the DD,some say its for turbo only....

EDIT:I geuss I am thinking about this WAY too much,but I am building this baby on a budget,and I can't afford to slap another exhuast on there,when I spend my 500-700$ hard earned bucks (hopefully less!) I want to love what I get out of it!

BTW:The guy that started this post has only 2 posts,I am not too concerned about stealing this thread

Anybody got pics of cat-back on their S13's ? n1 dual,DD,JIC SUS,5zigen fireball...whatever?

kuruptR

loud exhuasts are gay, tickets tickets ticket compliants.... stoopid neighbors wont let me idle my car any more... i have to drive it cold... and no more turbo down.

Muzzy

well cracka!!!

look up 5zigen..they arent very loud, dont hang low but seem to have the best power gains for N/A. the Mirical fireball..or how ever u spell it

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old_s13

All this exhaust discussion is crap. Just get a fucking exhaust and slap that shit on your car.

Want loud? Go straight pipe with whatever size piping you want. Want to keep some torque? Go with 2.25 or 2.5. What NO torque? Go with 3".

Got an SR? Go with 3"

Want a bit LESS sound? Add a resonator and possibly a muffler.. whatever.

Its an exhaust.. its purpose is to muffle the sound. The most performance ones are the ones that use mandrel piping, thats it.. thats the only science to it.. straightest piping are least restrictive and most power.. everything else is just brand name show off shiet to impress mom and dad.

- Mike

Anubis

Just take off the stock exhaust and drive around with nothing past the manifold. Sure wakes up the neighbrohood. Dont ask me how i know.

Ghettokracker71

hah hah......!!!!!! Thats great,thanks everybody!

and to old_s13 excuse me but my money doesn't come easy son,and I want to make sure that I spend my money wisely,its something called "homework" or "research" on something that is a largel investment for a high school kid working part time ,going to college next year wanting a nice car on a low budget

WishIhad1

low budget? i suggest the apexi Dual N1. Not to loud, not to low, not loose much torque because of the Y piping.

Disclaimer: i can be talking out of my ass because i dont even have a car(only 15), i just read alot

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ckyfish

did you not read his post? I suggest you go back and read it again ghettokrackamastakillahhomedognizzle...dipshit

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Ghettokracker71

I read it plenty of times,its amazingly funny how people like you and him put down other people to make yourselves look better,he said that this discussion is crap, well if it crap then you don't have to read it or post on it,I am not dissing you....but why are you intentially starting shit for no reason? Who's the dumbass here?

White guy who listens to rap,and SOMETIMES wears ghetto brands,and has his sn as "ghetto" b/c its an inside joke between freinds and wants to make smart investments on his car so he wants to make sure to ask the people who have had expereince in a realm that he knows NOTHING about,he used to be one of those guys that made fun of people in 240sx's and civics and etc. b/c his chevelle would easily blow them off the road...

or:

some guy who reads a forum and starts shit for no reason ?

Honestly thats one of the reasons I like this forum so much and don't touch the others is b/c the majority of the people here are actually smart,and have done alot to their cars,or know people that have done alot,and understand that one there was aperiod in their life they didn't understand SHIT about the S13 or S14,and MOST of them don't start talking trash and crap without a real reason to,yeah if somebody says something retarded they'll flame him out as should be,but whats so wrong with asking about cat-back's ? I don't care about loudness,I am used to a loud exhuast,my last 2 cars were V-8s and VERY VERY loud and I never got a ticket ONCE b/c of the loudness of them,my neighbors are used to me driving something loud,both in how it looks and sounds,they have given up on complaining b/c I told them that 'I'm into cars,you can complain,but its just wasting your time,I am not doing anything illegal just b/c I like fast cars'

first two cars were as follows:

1971 Chevelle W/Dual 2.5" or 3",can't honestly remeber,and flowmaster muffs 5.1L V-8(307ci),forced to sell b/c needed some circumstances

stupidly replaced with

1984 Thunderbird with a swapped 5.0 from a wrecked 91 Stang GT,with full lengh headers,K&N air filter,dual cats(no names) and no muffs,wasn't very fast,looked like shit too,needed a paint job BAD,I got rid of that thing fast,I didn't do my HW on this car and thats why I got fucked over on it,the thing was falling apart,nice engine,sounded nice,had a little get up and go,thats about it !

Thats all I have to say bro.........

ISTOTOSAO

I am reading an automotive encyclopedia right now, and it says that the less back pressure you have the more torque and horsepower gain you will get. So why is everyone saying that you need back pressue to keep good torque? I have also seen dyno results that back this information up. Oh yeah. I love the run on sentences. Oh and I know I can't spell if anything is wrong.

Ghettokracker71

I never claimed to be a scholar(proble spelled that wrong too !)....

old_s13

Because you NEED backpressure. If you run header-out (like I have) you will soon feel the absolute lack of torque.

As for kracker dude, just listen to other people's exhausts and make a damn decision. Dont get so uptight over something so stupid. Its like saying which air filter is the best, who cares.. as long as they do a good job. It gets to a point where ANYTHING is better than stock, the only major difference is the brand...

I mean come on, do you seriously think one exhaust will give you a LOT more power than another? The key is mandrel bent.. get nice proper sized piping and less restrictive muffler, thats it. From there its all "do i want dual tip, single tip, cannon ball shooter" blah blah..

- Mike

Ghettokracker71

Yah.........sorry man,I tend to get carried away with things...... made for an interesting thread though,hah hah

My freind has a B12,I think its a GA16DE but I don't know for sure,and I was helping him put on exhuast,we decided to go for a "bonsai run" through his neighborhood with stock manifold only....slowest that things ever been,if it had any TQ to loose....it lost it !

sorry .............

I am kind of a partier(as if you can't tell by my sig)

ZOLTAN

If you want to be frugal and/or spend money wisely, find a local muffler shop that does mandrel bending and get a custom exhaust bent up.
All you need to find is a decent universal muffler.
And that's not hard, because just about every company who makes exhausts sells universal mufflers.

An exhaust, is an exhaust, is an exhaust.
It's just a pipe to direct the spent gases out of your engine.
And unless your car is a pure competition race car, the minor differences in gains you may or may not get from different brand systems is pointless.
The only real thing you should think about is if it's going to be for a turbo car or not.
And, how loud you want to be.

So, make the choice yourself; do you want brand name and bling, or do you want function?
It's your decision.


.Eddie.