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Old 06-16-2016, 01:38 PM   #61
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I do apologize for the Gen Pop of Zilvia. Honestly us old crustys call them that because most of them are hoonigan, zip tie, stance crew, loosers that are mostly under the age of 26. Meaning they haven't fully developed their social skills and most of the time a well meant conversation with one simply ends in frustration. Watch, one will probably slander me over on zilvia for this post only to further prove my point....

I have noticed a much better comrodary over here...
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I wouldn't take my car anywhere with a known fire hazzard. I would get it towed because that's what adults do. And if it caught on fire, I'd use insurance to cover my end, get a new car, and have a beer. What I would NOT do is post on the internet about it because what is that REALLY going to do. But, that's me. Some people are perfectly fine doing the thing they did. And hats off to those people.
But thats what doesnt make sense. Brake lines are not complex, they are pipes that go from one part of the car to the other. The only thing complex about them is the ABS system.

I would be more curious to know where the brake leak was and how it happened. Steel lines just dont fall apart on newer vehicles. We're not talking about a soft rubber line leading to a caliper, we're probably talking about a hard line in this situation. So how did the hard line get damaged, and who damaged it?

One of my customers had a brake leak from his S14 master cylinder. He kept telling me that the BMC was at fault. I checked the fittings and everything was tight as a drum. He kept leaking fluid (onto the exhaust manifold and frame rail, mind you) and the car never caught fire. Of course, he also had his heat shields installed - I dont recall seeing that on the Z-car. Anyway, the problem ended up being that the BMC's reservoir cap had a small split in it which would not allow the cap to tighten down 100%. When being driven hard at AutoX events, it would leak around the perimeter of the cap.

Ironically, when I found the problem I yelled at him and called him a moron. I told him to be more selective when he needs my help because something simple like a cracked cap is something he should have been able to figure out. Damn... we're a bunch of cold blooded bastards on this forum.
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Reading the thread on Zilvia is quite entertaining. They get pissy so easily. Probably wish they could afford something other than a 20+ year old rust bucket. Glad I don't own one anymore.
^ i love how guys on the Z forum think we're all such poor broke asses that we can only afford a mere s-chassis. as if we dont work, have successful careers, or get this: own multiple cars or better yet, property(ies). i mean after all, the Z is such a superior car and nothing makes more financial sense than to go into debt just to own a Z!


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Heck I'm 21 and My 09 370z in March 2015 was still $18500 after getting the asking price knocked down from 19,999. At my qualified 5.05% as a first time Auto Loan, but not new to credit customer, I'm paying about $394/mo for a car payment
After I got the car and looked at insurance, I pulled all my tips and tricks from being in the insurance business; my insurance was still close to $200/mo for a while until Loyalty Discounts increased, CA Good Driver Discount was added, and my Mileage discount was added. Now I'm paying about $150/mo for my Z and like $25 a month for my renter's policy. So still roughly $175 a month for insurance now
So without gas or maintenance on the car whatsoever, still have to be paying $550+/mo out of pocket.
550 a month........ for a car! thats awesome.

i love how jaded some car enthusiasts are. the more expensive a car you own - the higher up on the ladder you are as a successful person. "oh gee, i wish some day i too could own a GTR" ... pssh whatever.
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$550 a month for a 6 year old Nissan. Ha.
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^ i love how guys on the Z forum think we're all such poor broke asses that we can only afford a mere s-chassis. as if we dont work, have successful careers, or get this: own multiple cars or better yet, property(ies). i mean after all, the Z is such a superior car and nothing makes more financial sense than to go into debt just to own a Z!
hahahahaha this x34,859,345. Perfect.
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hahahahaha this x34,859,345. Perfect.
i'm just sayin....

its like these dudes think that the Doing It Wrong thread represents every s-chassis owner. you wont find my fucking car in that thread! it makes me cringe when i think that somehow i am associated with these broke 240 owners with multi-colored shit boxes.

anyway, i think i am going to head out to the nissan dealership early tomorrow morning. i am going to ask them how much deposit they want for me to get a 370Z. i think if i trade in all of my shitty cars, they'll sell me a slightly less shitty 370Z. you know, the car that uses the very rare VQ thats in practically ALL of the nissan/infiniti lineup. the car thats been long overdue for a make-over since its been in production since 2009. i've always wanted a car that has drive-by-wire, auto-rev-matching and an FRP core support. oh, and 19" wheels... that shits dope.

dont worry Z owners, our cars suck just as bad - auto seat belts, KA SOHC, shitty seats and plenty of rattles. give your cars time though. remember, the my350z forums used to be quite prestigious back in the day!


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$550 a month for a 6 year old Nissan. Ha.
550 PLUS, to be exact. but dont forget the registration! renewal costs of a car that expensive are *SIGNIFICANTLY* higher than my shit bucket which costs <$100 to renew. and insurance, which i am sure they pay for full coverage while i have basic liability - again - since our cars are practically worthless in the eyes of the insurance company.
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the more expensive a car you own - the higher up on the ladder you are as a successful person..
The further you fall when the ladder burns down.
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It would cost me $75 a month to make the 240 my daily. Tags and registration was a bank breaking $45.
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^ i love how guys on the Z forum think we're all such poor broke asses that we can only afford a mere s-chassis. as if we dont work, have successful careers, or get this: own multiple cars or better yet, property(ies). .

Had a Z.

Was ghey.

Just bought another $800 S-chassis.

Not ghey anymore.


I prefer having a daily and a house to keep my shit in lol.





Any new info on this or are we just having a forum pissing contest now?
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Had a Z.

Was ghey.

Just bought another $800 S-chassis.

Not ghey anymore.


I prefer having a daily and a house to keep my shit in lol.





Any new info on this or are we just having a forum pissing contest now?
The last one.

I read the updates on the Z forum. That 21yr-old kid seems like a fat cunt. I can't believe all these guys thinks it takes MORE effort to own a NEWER car. Blows my mind lol. I sold my newer (FRS) car just to get back into Nissans. Didn't know it made folks think I'm living hand-over-fist and paycheck-to-paycheck hahaha.

STR8H8N is doing a lot of cock-stroking over there. Maybe we'll get lucky and he'll stay posting there.

The guy (Tim) is definitely right about how shitty the dealership is being but beyond that it seems weird. All of this is secondhand knowledge so getting a mob together via social media is 'meh' at best. At any rate I hope the car is fixed quickly. I mean even if the dealership doesn't pay he'll pay what, a $500ish deductible to fix the car? Seems like an okay-deal.
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The whole social media mob shaming is stupid. Honestly, if you weren't involved, then stay out of it. I will never understand why some people got to make drama when it isn't their business in the first damned place.
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I wouldn't take my car anywhere with a known fire hazzard. I would get it towed because that's what adults do. And if it caught on fire, I'd use insurance to cover my end, get a new car, and have a beer. What I would NOT do is post on the internet about it because what is that REALLY going to do. But, that's me. Some people are perfectly fine doing the thing they did. And hats off to those people.
dudes definitely an idiot for even driving it. that's what shit like AAA is for. but since it was already there, and they continued with the dumbassery, the last one to drive the hazardous car while knowing it was hazardous should be at fault. either way, insurance it up and like you said.

this blanket hating with the 370 group vs 240 group is dumb as fuck. having a 370 doesn't mean youre a moron, owning an s chassis doesn't mean youre a moron. but looking like an angry hater for no reason feeds into how a lot of other car communities view us.. yes, there are quite a few pompous assholes on the370z, and there are quite a few drift missile douchebags on here. both have their bad apples, and I left the 370z forum due to people thinking they're the shit cause of money. but at the end of the day its all Nissan, and there are a lot of great guys that own both 240 and Z34 cars. so yea.
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The last one.

I read the updates on the Z forum. That 21yr-old kid seems like a fat cunt. I can't believe all these guys thinks it takes MORE effort to own a NEWER car. Blows my mind lol. I sold my newer (FRS) car just to get back into Nissans. Didn't know it made folks think I'm living hand-over-fist and paycheck-to-paycheck hahaha.

STR8H8N is doing a lot of cock-stroking over there. Maybe we'll get lucky and he'll stay posting there.

The guy (Tim) is definitely right about how shitty the dealership is being but beyond that it seems weird. All of this is secondhand knowledge so getting a mob together via social media is 'meh' at best. At any rate I hope the car is fixed quickly. I mean even if the dealership doesn't pay he'll pay what, a $500ish deductible to fix the car? Seems like an okay-deal.
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Ryan Nissan service department is incompetent and unprofessional. They drove my friends NISMO 370Z, which was in their care to have a brake line leak fixed, 2 miles. That leak was near very hot exhaust components which was a fire hazard and my friends Z caught on fire. When he dropped it off the tech that he showed it to said he was lucky it didn't catch on fire on the way over to the dealership so the fire hazard was known yet they drove it 2 miles. Even if there wasn't a fire hazard they drove a car with a known brake fluid leak so there was a potential for the brake system to fail.
The "reviews" on facebook/google/yelp are interesting...

BTW, how many s-chassis owners are running top-mount turbo setups where the brake master cylinder is right next to the turbo. i've seen melted brake cylinder reservoirs before, but i dont recall seeing or hearing about our cars burning down to the ground due to this.

I still dont understand how it was OK for the owner to drive the car over, but not OK for the dealership to drive the car.


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My friend is in the military and has very little time to enjoy his Z. Because of Ryan Nissan's incompetence he has to spend the summer with out his beloved sports car.
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BTW, how many s-chassis owners are running top-mount turbo setups where the brake master cylinder is right next to the turbo. i've seen melted brake cylinder reservoirs before, but i dont recall seeing or hearing about our cars burning down to the ground due to this.
Smoking and seized brakes at best
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Having a turbo won't void his warranty unless it causes the problem directly. If you install normal headers on your mustang and your brakes go out you are all clear as they are not related issues. If you install a turbo and manifold and they cause your brakes to fail because they constantly rub and push on fittings that's on you. People should look up Magnuson Moss, just having aftermarket parts won't void your warranty unless they cause the failure. Idk if his turbo actually caused the issue, or if the dealer just blamed it on the turbo to get out of being on the hook. It's a common tactic and sometimes it works on the uninformed owner.
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Having a turbo won't void his warranty unless it causes the problem directly. If you install normal headers on your mustang and your brakes go out you are all clear as they are not related issues. If you install a turbo and manifold and they cause your brakes to fail because they constantly rub and push on fittings that's on you. People should look up Magnuson Moss, just having aftermarket parts won't void your warranty unless they cause the failure.
Agree, to an extent.


Misuse of the vehicle: This term can be interpreted in broad ways, and often includes racing/competition of any type, overloading the vehicle or off-roading. Potentially, anything outside of normal operation of the vehicle can be considered misuse. Some automakers will void your entire warranty for these infractions, and this decision is typically left to the discretion of the warranty administrator. Even if there is no proof but just signs of abuse, your warranty claim may be denied.

Hey, you went outside my OEM parameters, these engineers that we pay close to 6 figures work hard to get reliability, performance, emission, countless hours in RnD, you want to go fu*k around, its on you, we flagged you, good luck... (bitch... I would think they say that under breath)
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BTW, how many s-chassis owners are running top-mount turbo setups where the brake master cylinder is right next to the turbo. i've seen melted brake cylinder reservoirs before, but i dont recall seeing or hearing about our cars burning down to the ground due to this.
I have seen uncountable sr swaps burnt to the ground because of the master cylinder. I jokingly call it the fire starter and warn everyone I see. you NEED to blanket, coat, wrap and protect and shield that 1500*F turbine from the plastic melty flame box

I thought that was common knowledge but you still see it happen I guess
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Hey, you went outside my OEM parameters, these engineers that we pay close to 6 figures work hard to get reliability, performance, emission, countless hours in RnD, you want to go fu*k around, its on you, we flagged you, good luck... (bitch... I would think they say that under breath)
Racing isn't a aftermarket part though. But you are correct that racing can and will bite you with a lot of companies.
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But...BUT.. I see sale for sale ads that say, " because race car" ... hmmm fishy
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But...BUT.. I see sale for sale ads that say, " because race car" ... hmmm fishy
Ha they show them on tracks on TV right?

Joking aside Chevy said they will warranty cars broken on the track assuming they stay stock. Idk if this extends beyond just the Camaro though.
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Ha they show them on tracks on TV right?

Joking aside Chevy said they will warranty cars broken on the track assuming they stay stock. Idk if this extends beyond just the Camaro though.
IDK, never heard that from them. I "broke" my dick railing four "ho's" in Michigan (upscale hotel/location) never got sympathy from the "big four". Luckily us cali folks have a decent emissions warranty and we rate girls on an entire different scale :P
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Having a turbo won't void his warranty unless it causes the problem directly.
And your point as a whole is one that is debatable. If you go through the tender process of building a car from the ground up, you quickly see the short-comings of certain OEM parts and how they are the Achilles heel of the car. When that turbo increases wear, heat and stress on parts - i'll be damned if you're going to say "I still want my warranty." What the fuck are you guys smoking? We're not talking about an air intake here, we're talking about a turbo kit. Ever purchase *any* nismo part? Its a fucking joke. NISMO basically charges you up the ass and says "for race only, no warranty, go fuck yourself" and gives you a pretty sticker with a red "o" - thats what you get.

This is why I am calling the guy a douche, not because he has a twin turbo 370Z - but because he was inexperienced enough to take it to a GOOD tuner shop and like a moron, decided to even drive this hazard to the fucking dealer. I trust the dealer with servicing and maintaining a stock car, and nothing else. Unless you personally know the tech and the tech intimately knows your car, then its a fucking gamble. You cant expect some generic tech to understand modifications, these guys follow the NISSAN rules to the T.


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I am not saying that its not an issue, because I agree - its a problem which is why I wont ever go top mount. But if brake fluid was so combustible, this would be a HUGE problem. I mean 9/10 cars on Zilvia would be burnt to the crisp.
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My wife was looking to buy a Nissan but after reading all these awful reviews we will be taking our business elsewhere.
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And your point as a whole is one that is debatable.
I won't quote the whole thing as I want to agree with you, any issue will likely get blamed on the turbo, and it might have been caused by the turbo anyways. The owner is also crazy to think his warranty claim will get approved. Mainly I was saying that simply having aftermarket parts won't void the cars warranty like I see so often posted. It actually has to cause the problems to void the warranty. It seems that in this case it very well might have caused it though.


As for the dealer techs, I drive a stock(for now) Fiesta ST, they are fucking clueless on what the car is. Sometimes dealer techs don't even know their stock cars for shit.
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Thats the part about this story that sucks, no one is asking questions about how the details: what leaked, how did it leak, what caused it to leak - etc. Nah, lets just make a man-hunt and fuck that dealer over. These guys arent too bright. On top of that, I found this recent quote funny:

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fucking morons. we have nothing better to do than make up fake reviews for some shitty redneck dealership in north dakota.
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550 a month........ for a car! thats awesome.
550 a month for a car payment? So, he put absolutely NO money down and has a double digit interest rate? Good for him.
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550 a month for a car payment? So, he put absolutely NO money down and has a double digit interest rate? Good for him.
550 isn't that much for a newer car that's in the 40-50k range lol whats the price this guy paid for his Z have anything to do with him having issues at the dealership? I don't see how that's relevant in any way other than it seems to be breeding a lot of hate.
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