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Old 08-07-2011, 01:58 PM   #1
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government spending is NUTS!

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Old 08-07-2011, 02:07 PM   #2
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That video was awesome lol. Only way to fix it is to cut spending and increase income. Seems pretty simple.
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Old 08-07-2011, 02:55 PM   #4
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^^^Yes, but how do we increase income if the corporations are still refusing to hire, slashing expenses & pocketing all the profits?
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Old 08-07-2011, 03:07 PM   #5
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taxes. on everybody. I don't think a 1% flat rate across the board is going to hurt anyone.

I don't know what cutting medicare is gonna do either besides hurt people, nursing homes and care facilities are now just cutting back on labor so yes they save that money, but now they're taking more jobs away.. I'm not big into politics, I can't stand how everyone in Washington can't get along, but its past that stage. Put your differences aside and fix the damn problem.
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Old 08-07-2011, 04:08 PM   #6
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you Americans need a tax reform so this doesn't happen

http://www.nytimes.com/2011/03/25/bu...pagewanted=all
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Old 08-07-2011, 04:54 PM   #7
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^^ did someone say something about raising TAXES? Next mid term election vote DEMOCRAT, and the taxes will get raised! If u voted tea party u have no one to blame but your self!
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Taxing the wealthy FTMFW. We need some type of trade agreement that keeps corporations from running overseas to avoid taxation.
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Taxing the wealthy FTMFW. We need some type of trade agreement that keeps corporations from running overseas to avoid taxation.
Better yet, Fuck them companies! Lets have the Government just raid them and take over. Then they can hire us and just make sure to pay us all fairly and get rid of those fat cat money grubbing bastards!




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Old 08-07-2011, 06:55 PM   #10
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Taxing the wealthy FTMFW. We need some type of trade agreement that keeps corporations from running overseas to avoid taxation.
That's the ticket! Punish those that succeed.

Then after that, we'll force corporations to stay in America so we can over tax them and they'll have nowhere to run.

The american dream lives on.....

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Old 08-07-2011, 08:20 PM   #11
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Love how people who pay no income tax say "Tax the Rich". How about the 50% of American that don't pay taxes, pay their fair share.

Did you get a tax refund?
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Love how people who pay no income tax say "Tax the Rich". How about the 50% of American that don't pay taxes, pay their fair share.

Did you get a tax refund?
They pay taxes... just not income... But payroll, goods, services, etc...
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Old 08-09-2011, 03:39 PM   #13
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Taxing the wealthy FTMFW. We need some type of trade agreement that keeps corporations from running overseas to avoid taxation.
Lol the only reason they go overseas is because they can't afford the taxes and expenses here. Your force them to come back, you might as well close the doors because shit is too expensive here. It makes no sense to punish the people who get college educations and put there neck on the line to make a lot of money, and employ hundreds of people. If they are going to raise taxes, they need to do it on 100% of America, not 5%, thats like taking a 30 year loan on a $10k car, why even bother?
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Old 08-07-2011, 05:57 PM   #14
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Yeah tax the wealthy, because the broke ass people in the world are the ones investing money and creating successful corporations. Some people do the right things and get money other don't, you earn it you should keep it just as much as anyone else.

We do need some sort of reform to keep huge corporations from avoiding all taxes.
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VAT FTMWF. Who gives a shit what you make. Tax on what you spend is fair.
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VAT FTMWF. Who gives a shit what you make. Tax on what you spend is fair.
Then nobody would spend... No body spends, nobody makes money...
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haha like when gas goes up past $3 a gallon and we all walk.
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i work for one of the regional support commands in afghanistan. i see how much money is dumped in this shithole country. how about 20 billion? just in afghan aid THIS YEAR alone. thats not including the cost of us being over here. our on spending. so take 50 billion/ year out of the yearly debt, and things would be much different. just saying. 50 billion goes a long way.. its not the answer but we sure as hell wouldnt hear about our credit ratings going down, killing our market. its so frustrating. i just gave 150k to some afghans to dump poo water out of an ANA base that doesnt get used for the purpose we built it. for all we know the taliban are taking up camp there because they magically disappear when the americans come. ok /rant
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but being the world police and sending aid to every shithole under the sun is our MO...cant argue with that can we?
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but being the world police and sending aid to every shithole under the sun is our MO...cant argue with that can we?
haha this is more that aid.. this is like.... christmas for an entire country
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but being the world police and sending aid to every shithole under the sun is our MO...cant argue with that can we?

god, how much have we thrown into pakistan?!
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god, how much have we thrown into pakistan?!
Only a few Billion...

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pakistan is where most taliban are coming from. its going to take more than a few billion to take care of them. money doesnt solve anything especially these people. you give a little, they take a lot and then insist for more. which is why they have us by our balls right now. the haqqani network of taliban are what i deal with on a daily basis. they come from pakistan on j-bad road which just so happens to be the road my base is on YAY. fuck this is a topic that gets my blood boiling. please forgive me.
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pakistan is where most taliban are coming from. its going to take more than a few billion to take care of them. money doesnt solve anything especially these people. you give a little, they take a lot and then insist for more. which is why they have us by our balls right now. the haqqani network of taliban are what i deal with on a daily basis. they come from pakistan on j-bad road which just so happens to be the road my base is on YAY. fuck this is a topic that gets my blood boiling. please forgive me.
Have India fight Pakastan. Their just looking for an excuse.
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Hypothetically, I wonder how beneficial that scenario would be to the US?
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Hypothetically, I wonder how beneficial that scenario would be to the US?
The ensuing nuclear war would allow American and Eurpean companies to clean house on half the planet. We'd be selling them weapons, food, medicine, just about anything you can imagine.

And you bet your ass America would be selling to both sides. Why change what's worked for two world wars and a long series of proxy wars?
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^I think one way or another it would wind up being a donation in the long run. And then more donations in the form of aid afterward. And if we did charge they couldn't afford it. And the countries that can afford it either don't need it or wouldn't want it.
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