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*!Zar!* · 08-12-2008, 05:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sileighty_DRFT89

a welded diff has always tickled my fancy. but I've heard many stories of people hydroplaning on the freeway while raining on welded diffs. I'm gonna be dailying this to rancho everyday from covina to rancho and I'd sure hate for that to happen to me.

Explain the logic in how that would be?

SochBAT · 08-12-2008, 05:22 PM

i'll tell you right now, once you learn how to re-drive with the welded, you're a god.

If you're still driving retarded in the rain, then you deserve that shit. There are chances you will hydroplane on the freeway, yes. but you can eliminate those factors by A) getting tires with tread, B) take it slow, its not a fucking race, C) approach turns and banks the right way at the right speed.

Hydroplaning happens moreoften on cheap ass 240 owners that can't afford tires and have bald ass ones rolling daily. "Gangsta" my ass.

PS. I fucking love TarMan. Zar's ava = Cooltown.

redclaw05 · 08-12-2008, 10:40 PM

just got me a free welded 6 bolt dif. getting it put on this friday.... so my open that is on my car right now will be my winter dif.

thefro526 · 08-12-2008, 10:41 PM

Update #4!!!!!!

Went to a local meet tonight and my welded is still awesome. I took a bunch of people for rides and let my friend drive it and the general consensus is that it's not that bad. I still love it and my friend who used to have an S14 (totaled by a drunk driver) said my welded is better than his 1.5 way was. That's his opinion but regardless it's still good.

People still give me crazy looks and in a parking lot of 150 cars that are modded I was getting a shitload of attention and my car is mostly stock. I absolutely love the noises, they're awesome.

Did a donut or two when giving rides and I'm getting so much better with this welded as I drive it more.

On the Subject of tires and price, Welded diffs are a cheap and effective alternative to LSD's. My Welded cost me a total of $75 and most LSD's are 10 times that much. But at the same time you need good tires to DD on. Don't complain that your welded sucks in the rain when you have shitty tires. I got brand new tires for $208 dollars that are A rated across the board so with the money you save you can buy new tires.

Silverbullet · 08-12-2008, 10:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by redclaw05

just got me a free welded 6 bolt dif. getting it put on this friday.... so my open that is on my car right now will be my winter dif.

i dont see why you would want to put an open diff in the winter. It probably doesn't snow in TX often, but for ppl who live in states that do, getting stuck in the snow with an open diff is quite embarrassing (winter 04-05 lol)

redclaw05 · 08-12-2008, 10:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Silverbullet

why in the world would you want to put an open diff on your car in the winter? Do you enjoy getting stuck in snow? I find it very embarrassing getting stuck going up a hill that is covered in snow (winter of 2004 lol)

it doesnt snow in texas. it freezes

thefro526 · 08-12-2008, 11:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by redclaw05

it doesnt snow in texas. it freezes

Makes sense, no matter what a welded is gonna be difficult to drive on Ice unless you have studded tires. Idk I'd still rock mine in the winter and just wait until after the roads are treated to drive.

redclaw05 · 08-12-2008, 11:07 PM

well i could always drive my dads car......ls400

its still RWD but its heavy

Silverbullet · 08-12-2008, 11:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by thefro526

Makes sense, no matter what a welded is gonna be difficult to drive on Ice unless you have studded tires.

quite the opposite. Your not going anywhere on ice with an open diff. Your also only getting half as much contact area to move the car. Just all season tires will do.

the down side however is obviously you have to be gentle on the gas around turns or angled roads.

drifterdave · 08-13-2008, 01:45 PM

i have a welded diff and i love it! its so nice for drifting, and isnt that bad for daily driver. but then again i have megan track spec coils for daily, lol, but to each his own, personal id rather spend $50.00 then $250.00 on a lsd any day since they both do the same thing. alot of people from texas have welded diffs, but since i moved back here to cali no one has one, lol, and they think im weird or haggared for having one, lol

thefro526 · 08-13-2008, 01:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Silverbullet

quite the opposite. Your not going anywhere on ice with an open diff. Your also only getting half as much contact area to move the car. Just all season tires will do.

the down side however is obviously you have to be gentle on the gas around turns or angled roads.

I stand corrected, I was refering to turning tho

jdm510 · 08-14-2008, 05:36 AM

I have a update for you:
I threw my 15,000k VLSD bought from a memeber on here. he had a really bad ass red s13 coupe, anyways not only did he give me a perfect low mile diff.....

*note this is my first 240 it is a s13 coupe with a pretty much stock sr20det and kei office coilovers it had a welded diff when i baught it so thats what i got used to

Well HOLY SHIT my car drives soo much better!!! if you think about the physics of it your independent rear suspention can not work properly with the axle's locked driving down a bumpy road and turns(note i have race type suspention really stiff). Even bumps in the road are smoother the freeway is less bumpy. I'm just soo happy with the car throwing it into turns its soo nice now. Befor u turns were a BITCH! pulling into dirve thru's or drive ways or parking lots was JUST STUPID!!! And I could just feel all the stress and binding on my rear suspention damn tweaking everything to all hell. now all that bullshit is gone and its GREAT THANKS Jbma327

AND Since I picked up a good low mile VLSD it locks hard and works just as good as my welded and to tell you the truth i think the drifts are alot smoother now!!!!

with that said if any one in socal (san diego) wants a perfect 6 bolt welded diff for s13 with axles hit me up and make offer and its yours and you can be a hard core thug and deal with all the bullshit i did

thefro526 · 08-14-2008, 02:06 PM

Update #5!!! 8-14-08

So today, I drove the welded in the rain again. It wasn't raining too hard but it was hard enough that the road was completely wet. I have good tires so rolling through turns in second off the throttle was hella easy but once I gave it some gas, it was drift central!!! Which IMO is pretty awesome. All I had to do was let go of the wheel and let of the gas and everything went back in line.

Regardless, rock you're welded with good tires and a light foot in the rain and you'll be fine.

jdm510 · 08-14-2008, 02:30 PM

you keep talking about all this drifting in the streets your going to be hating life when you lose it in the rain and smack a pole or parked car hopefully you wont be giving one of your buddys a ride then you will end up in jail like nick faget ass hogan

thefro526 · 08-14-2008, 02:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jdm510

you keep talking about all this drifting in the streets your going to be hating life when you lose it in the rain and smack a pole or parked car hopefully you wont be giving one of your buddys a ride then you will end up in jail like nick faget ass hogan

Honestly dude, I've talked about drifting on the street in this thread twice. Today I slid onto my street and and last weekend I was in a parking lot. Whenever I'm gonna do something dumb I make sure I drive around the area real quick to scout things out and then try. I knew where every parked car on the street was, where people were walking, and I looked for moving traffic before I turned, all I was going about 15 miles an hour in 2nd gear prepared to stop. Don't ever compare me, someone who is trying to get experimental data for the better of our community to someone like Nick Hogan is a complete Douchebag. I think many of us would rather me try to push my diff in the rain over some noob who can barely drive their car normal.

This being said, I'm doing this stuff so others don't have too. I had to find out what my diff would do in the rain so that others don't find out by mistake.

*!Zar!* · 08-14-2008, 02:40 PM

I'm already made countless statements on welded diff.

So your research isn't groundbreaking.

thefro526 · 08-14-2008, 02:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by !Zar!

I'm already made countless statements on welded diff.

So your research isn't groundbreaking.

I understand that, sorry if I sound like I'm belittling the current info out there but, I'm trying to make a noobs guide to welded differentials or something like it. I want people to know how a welded differential will react in varied driving. I figure if I pull all of my info into one thread, and a very large first post then someone will be more likely to read it than if it were in a bunch of individual posts.

SochBAT · 08-14-2008, 02:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jdm510

you keep talking about all this drifting in the streets your going to be hating life when you lose it in the rain and smack a pole or parked car hopefully you wont be giving one of your buddys a ride then you will end up in jail like nick faget ass hogan

Stop bashing you retard. "To each his own." Don't start shit talking in someone else's thread.

He's trying to be helpful, and you're not. And quit that homosexual name calling. Its fucking offensive. You dick.

To the OP, any help in giving information on weldeds is more than welcomed. Thanks for your contribution.

jdm510 · 08-14-2008, 02:47 PM

just saying be carful SHIT HAPPENS im a very good driver and ive had some good wrecks few flips i been threw it all. All it takes is one time

SoSideways · 08-14-2008, 02:48 PM

It's pretty much common sense with how to drive a car with a welded diff.

Don't drive like an idiot and haul ass in the rain around corners and you'll be ok.

Pretty much what a lot of us welded diff owners have said in this thread over and over, so I honestly don't see how you think the message isn't already out there.

Quote:

Originally Posted by jdm510

you keep talking about all this drifting in the streets your going to be hating life when you lose it in the rain and smack a pole or parked car hopefully you wont be giving one of your buddys a ride then you will end up in jail like nick faget ass hogan

Pretty sure you're getting banned for that comment.

jdm510 · 08-14-2008, 02:51 PM

im soo glad i pulled mine out it was making the whole car feel like shit it drives soo much beter. I am officialy ANTI-WELDED DIFF!!!!!

DrFtKiNg240sxy · 08-14-2008, 03:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jdm510

im soo glad i pulled mine out it was making the whole car feel like shit it drives soo much beter. I am officialy ANTI-WELDED DIFF!!!!!

Somebody get this guy cookie!..

stfu. k thanks

thefro526 · 08-14-2008, 03:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Soooshi

Stop bashing you retard. "To each his own." Don't start shit talking in someone else's thread.

He's trying to be helpful, and you're not. And quit that homosexual name calling. Its fucking offensive. You dick.

To the OP, any help in giving information on weldeds is more than welcomed. Thanks for your contribution.

Thank you for seeing that I'm just trying to help out.

Quote:

Originally Posted by jdm510

just saying be carful SHIT HAPPENS im a very good driver and ive had some good wrecks few flips i been threw it all. All it takes is one time

You're a good driver? What makes you assume I'm not? Because I'm a kid? And on the issue of accidents, my back still hurts from when my friend jumped a curb and ate a pole being a dumbass trying to drift. I know the outcome of driver inexperience. Which is the reason I've made this thread, to try inform people on what happens when you drive with a welded diff in various conditions.

Quote:

Originally Posted by SoSideways

It's pretty much common sense with how to drive a car with a welded diff.

Don't drive like an idiot and haul ass in the rain around corners and you'll be ok.

Pretty much what a lot of us welded diff owners have said in this thread over and over, so I honestly don't see how you think the message isn't already out there.

I never said the info wasn't out there, it just wasn't all in one thread that could be found easily through searching. I've read much of what I've found out already but I also researched for a month before I welded my diff, most people wait until they see "welded diffs suck in the rain" or "I totaled my car because of a welded diff" and they stay away forever. And SoSideways, I know you're very well informed from your posts on here and JDMUniverse so it may be common sense to you and I and other people in this thread but not everyone's as smart, or awesome as us.

And I don't street drift regularly. The reason I've tried it on my welded is to get information. Honestly I hate drifting on the streets because I'm always worried about cops or other traffic or messing up my car and it's not forgiving at all.

SoSideways · 08-14-2008, 03:16 PM

Ah ha!

I knew your sn looked familiar. Couldn't remember where I've seen it before though.

You're never going to get a 100% united in opinion type thread on anything on the internet.

Even in this thread alone, you've got people saying welded is awesome, and welded sucks, and they all have their reasons for it.

But that's just it, if you made a search about welded diffs, every thread is pretty much the same, as far as the message goes... which also makes this thread the same as the other ones.

Only difference is that, you made this one, and you put your own experiences in it as the thread progressed.

Which is why Zar is saying that your findings aren't ground breaking, and didn't need to make another thread about it, because there are many other threads documenting the same exact information, started by others.

thefro526 · 08-14-2008, 03:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SoSideways

Ah ha!

I knew your sn looked familiar. Couldn't remember where I've seen it before though.

You're never going to get a 100% united in opinion type thread on anything on the internet.

Even in this thread alone, you've got people saying welded is awesome, and welded sucks, and they all have their reasons for it.

But that's just it, if you made a search about welded diffs, every thread is pretty much the same, as far as the message goes... which also makes this thread the same as the other ones.

Only difference is that, you made this one, and you put your own experiences in it as the thread progressed.

Which is why Zar is saying that your findings aren't ground breaking, and didn't need to make another thread about it, because there are many other threads documenting the same exact information, started by others.

Haha fair enough bro, thanks for clarifying the meanings of some of these posts for me. Sorry for sounding kinda pissed but I saw no reason for that dude to say that I was going to crash and hurt my friends.

thefro526 · 08-17-2008, 11:29 AM

Update #6

Drove up to Club Loose's All Star Bash East yesterday and had some fun. It was predominantly highway driving and car feels pretty good. Interestingly enough though, I was cut off by a Honda on my way in and dropped a tire into some mud that was on the entrance road to the track. It wasn't a fun experience, I completely lost control of the rear end for about Half a second because I was too worried about hitting the D-Bag Honda that cut me off. Nothing too bad happened, I just looked like a noob but everything's OK. Also drove on gravel too, and any of you that are familiar with Englishtown's road course parking will know about what I'm talking about.

SilviaSR20DET · 08-17-2008, 11:57 AM

i live in seattle, rain is never an issue with my welded diff and good tires. one thing i do notice dramatically is the grip around corners. The thing doesn't let me get sideways!!! haha but i think its because of my crappy clutch, underpowered and full soft setting on my coilovers. The cool thing about welded is that you don't have to maintenance it ever.... cept changing the oil =)

thefro526 · 08-17-2008, 12:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SilviaSR20DET

i live in seattle, rain is never an issue with my welded diff and good tires. one thing i do notice dramatically is the grip around corners. The thing doesn't let me get sideways!!! haha but i think its because of my crappy clutch, underpowered and full soft setting on my coilovers. The cool thing about welded is that you don't have to maintenance it ever.... cept changing the oil =)

I have family that lives in seattle, well actually right outside of it, and you show that you can DD a welded in Rain. What's it rain in Seattle, like 280 days out if the year?

redclaw05 · 08-17-2008, 12:24 PM

got my dif welded. its very fun

and its a learning process.

chrisa · 08-17-2008, 12:35 PM

gonna install my welded sometime this week, just waiting for my new diff bushings to come in the mail!!!

08-12-2008, 10:40 PM	#63
redclaw05 Zilvia Member Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Dallas, TX Age: 35 Posts: 180 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	just got me a free welded 6 bolt dif. getting it put on this friday.... so my open that is on my car right now will be my winter dif. __________________ 1995 S14 NonSunroof.

08-12-2008, 11:07 PM	#68
redclaw05 Zilvia Member Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Dallas, TX Age: 35 Posts: 180 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	well i could always drive my dads car......ls400 its still RWD but its heavy __________________ 1995 S14 NonSunroof.

08-14-2008, 02:40 PM	#76
!Zar! Premium Member Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: North Korea Posts: 14,576 Trader Rating: (27) Feedback Score: 27 reviews	I'm already made countless statements on welded diff. So your research isn't groundbreaking. __________________

08-17-2008, 12:24 PM	#89
redclaw05 Zilvia Member Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Dallas, TX Age: 35 Posts: 180 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	got my dif welded. its very fun and its a learning process. __________________ 1995 S14 NonSunroof.

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08-12-2008, 05:22 PM	#62
SochBAT Post Whore! Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Abilene, TX Age: 35 Posts: 6,428 Trader Rating: (9) Rides Gallery: SochBAT Feedback Score: 9 reviews	i'll tell you right now, once you learn how to re-drive with the welded, you're a god. If you're still driving retarded in the rain, then you deserve that shit. There are chances you will hydroplane on the freeway, yes. but you can eliminate those factors by A) getting tires with tread, B) take it slow, its not a fucking race, C) approach turns and banks the right way at the right speed. Hydroplaning happens moreoften on cheap ass 240 owners that can't afford tires and have bald ass ones rolling daily. "Gangsta" my ass. PS. I fucking love TarMan. Zar's ava = Cooltown.

08-12-2008, 10:41 PM	#64
thefro526 Nissanaholic! Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: New Jersey Posts: 1,813 Trader Rating: (8) Feedback Score: 8 reviews	Update #4!!!!!! Went to a local meet tonight and my welded is still awesome. I took a bunch of people for rides and let my friend drive it and the general consensus is that it's not that bad. I still love it and my friend who used to have an S14 (totaled by a drunk driver) said my welded is better than his 1.5 way was. That's his opinion but regardless it's still good. People still give me crazy looks and in a parking lot of 150 cars that are modded I was getting a shitload of attention and my car is mostly stock. I absolutely love the noises, they're awesome. Did a donut or two when giving rides and I'm getting so much better with this welded as I drive it more. On the Subject of tires and price, Welded diffs are a cheap and effective alternative to LSD's. My Welded cost me a total of $75 and most LSD's are 10 times that much. But at the same time you need good tires to DD on. Don't complain that your welded sucks in the rain when you have shitty tires. I got brand new tires for $208 dollars that are A rated across the board so with the money you save you can buy new tires.

08-13-2008, 01:45 PM	#70
drifterdave Leaky Injector Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: santa maria Age: 32 Posts: 138 Trader Rating: (3) Feedback Score: 3 reviews	i have a welded diff and i love it! its so nice for drifting, and isnt that bad for daily driver. but then again i have megan track spec coils for daily, lol, but to each his own, personal id rather spend $50.00 then $250.00 on a lsd any day since they both do the same thing. alot of people from texas have welded diffs, but since i moved back here to cali no one has one, lol, and they think im weird or haggared for having one, lol

08-14-2008, 05:36 AM	#72
jdm510 BANNED Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: chula vista Posts: 160 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	I have a update for you: I threw my 15,000k VLSD bought from a memeber on here. he had a really bad ass red s13 coupe, anyways not only did he give me a perfect low mile diff..... note this is my first 240 it is a s13 coupe with a pretty much stock sr20det and kei office coilovers it had a welded diff when i baught it so thats what i got used to Well HOLY SHIT my car drives soo much better!!! if you think about the physics of it your independent rear suspention can not work properly with the axle's locked driving down a bumpy road and turns(note i have race type suspention really stiff). Even bumps in the road are smoother the freeway is less bumpy. I'm just soo happy with the car throwing it into turns its soo nice now. Befor u turns were a BITCH! pulling into dirve thru's or drive ways or parking lots was JUST STUPID!!! And I could just feel all the stress and binding on my rear suspention damn tweaking everything to all hell. now all that bullshit is gone and its GREAT THANKS Jbma327* AND Since I picked up a good low mile VLSD it locks hard and works just as good as my welded and to tell you the truth i think the drifts are alot smoother now!!!! with that said if any one in socal (san diego) wants a perfect 6 bolt welded diff for s13 with axles hit me up and make offer and its yours and you can be a hard core thug and deal with all the bullshit i did

08-14-2008, 02:06 PM	#73
thefro526 Nissanaholic! Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: New Jersey Posts: 1,813 Trader Rating: (8) Feedback Score: 8 reviews	Update #5!!! 8-14-08 So today, I drove the welded in the rain again. It wasn't raining too hard but it was hard enough that the road was completely wet. I have good tires so rolling through turns in second off the throttle was hella easy but once I gave it some gas, it was drift central!!! Which IMO is pretty awesome. All I had to do was let go of the wheel and let of the gas and everything went back in line. Regardless, rock you're welded with good tires and a light foot in the rain and you'll be fine.

08-14-2008, 02:30 PM	#74
jdm510 BANNED Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: chula vista Posts: 160 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	you keep talking about all this drifting in the streets your going to be hating life when you lose it in the rain and smack a pole or parked car hopefully you wont be giving one of your buddys a ride then you will end up in jail like nick faget ass hogan

08-14-2008, 02:47 PM	#79
jdm510 BANNED Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: chula vista Posts: 160 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	just saying be carful SHIT HAPPENS im a very good driver and ive had some good wrecks few flips i been threw it all. All it takes is one time

08-14-2008, 02:51 PM	#81
jdm510 BANNED Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: chula vista Posts: 160 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	im soo glad i pulled mine out it was making the whole car feel like shit it drives soo much beter. I am officialy ANTI-WELDED DIFF!!!!!

08-14-2008, 03:16 PM	#84
SoSideways Post Whore! Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: 你老母 Posts: 4,371 Trader Rating: (4) Feedback Score: 4 reviews	Ah ha! I knew your sn looked familiar. Couldn't remember where I've seen it before though. You're never going to get a 100% united in opinion type thread on anything on the internet. Even in this thread alone, you've got people saying welded is awesome, and welded sucks, and they all have their reasons for it. But that's just it, if you made a search about welded diffs, every thread is pretty much the same, as far as the message goes... which also makes this thread the same as the other ones. Only difference is that, you made this one, and you put your own experiences in it as the thread progressed. Which is why Zar is saying that your findings aren't ground breaking, and didn't need to make another thread about it, because there are many other threads documenting the same exact information, started by others.

08-17-2008, 11:29 AM	#86
thefro526 Nissanaholic! Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: New Jersey Posts: 1,813 Trader Rating: (8) Feedback Score: 8 reviews	Update #6 Drove up to Club Loose's All Star Bash East yesterday and had some fun. It was predominantly highway driving and car feels pretty good. Interestingly enough though, I was cut off by a Honda on my way in and dropped a tire into some mud that was on the entrance road to the track. It wasn't a fun experience, I completely lost control of the rear end for about Half a second because I was too worried about hitting the D-Bag Honda that cut me off. Nothing too bad happened, I just looked like a noob but everything's OK. Also drove on gravel too, and any of you that are familiar with Englishtown's road course parking will know about what I'm talking about.

08-17-2008, 11:57 AM	#87
SilviaSR20DET Zilvia FREAK! Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Seattle, WA Posts: 1,221 Trader Rating: (9) Feedback Score: 9 reviews	i live in seattle, rain is never an issue with my welded diff and good tires. one thing i do notice dramatically is the grip around corners. The thing doesn't let me get sideways!!! haha but i think its because of my crappy clutch, underpowered and full soft setting on my coilovers. The cool thing about welded is that you don't have to maintenance it ever.... cept changing the oil =)

08-17-2008, 12:35 PM	#90
chrisa BANNED Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: san pedro Age: 35 Posts: 690 Trader Rating: (14) Feedback Score: 14 reviews	gonna install my welded sometime this week, just waiting for my new diff bushings to come in the mail!!!