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Old 05-02-2012, 10:52 AM   #91
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hey is this the guy that i met at song's alignment a few weeks back? im the guy with the s14 doing the suspension work there (still have the subframe spacers btw)

calipers look clean in person...i also asked him about it funny how this thread was started
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the reason manufacturers state "DO NO DISASSEMBLE" is because of legality issues. Yes, if you take calipers apart and then put them together and crash you can potentially sue them. By telling you not to do something, they put a barrier in case of a lawsuit. However, if you are not an idiot, and do the research and do it right you will be ok. Will I do it? No. I will mask it off, sandblast and paint. why? because i dont give a fuck to do extra work and I can paint/dip it the way i want and it will hold up to heat.

Now, said that, Its perfectly ok to reseal the calipers and many recycle companies that rebuild calipers do it. Another reason they dont want you to DISASSEMBLE is because this will force you to buy another functioning pair from the manufacturer, or if you are getting your brake serviced, the shop will have to do that. Its a legality business decision. Does that mean you cant do it? no and please feel free to do so at your own risk. You people are arguing over a moo point.

Hey, they dont recommend you change stock settings on your suspension on a car, do they? or how about removing airbags? same issue.

p.s. some nice looking calipers here in this thread. however, this is all too much work and its just easier to paint
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i never found a part number for the caliper halve o-rings, post it up. there are vendors that sell them but I believe they just found some viton seals off of mcmaster or something like that.
true statement. did a little looking around. never paid attention to that minor detail. which is blatenly obvious with this company
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what does brembo have to do with oem nissan shit? well fuck-face, considering brembo makes calipers for a good majority of OE applications, i'de say their advice should be listened to. Who makes the OE z32 calipers? Sumitomo. Who makes the OE z33 track calipers? Brembo. NISSAN sells rebuild kits for both z32 and z33 calipers, but never the halve o-rings.
other than the fact that you sound like a pissed off pre-teen, i can see where you are coming from but still. your comparing apples to oranges. they are both fruit but they are not the same thing. just because nissan sells a rebuild kit for the sumitomo caliper and the brembo caliper, both without the o rings, doesnt necessarily mean their rebuild process is the same. yes minor details big whoop. dont take what i say about of context to make an argument. were talking about z32 calipers. so i should have put "what does brembo have to do with z32 calipers? "

talking about people not admitting shit is truth. its funny though. ill admit. my whole reason for visiting this thread is because my brother bought some R33 calipers that were beat up and wanted powdercoated. he didnt look in the FSM but looked at a write-up on another forum. He asked me if it seemed legit and i said sure, it would be ok. Never heard that it wasn't. thats why i did reference the FSM and posted it.
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the reason manufacturers state "DO NO DISASSEMBLE" is because of legality issues. Yes, if you take calipers apart and then put them together and crash you can potentially sue them. By telling you not to do something, they put a barrier in case of a lawsuit. However, if you are not an idiot, and do the research and do it right you will be ok. Will I do it? No. I will mask it off, sandblast and paint. why? because i dont give a fuck to do extra work and I can paint/dip it the way i want and it will hold up to heat.

Now, said that, Its perfectly ok to reseal the calipers and many recycle companies that rebuild calipers do it. Another reason they dont want you to DISASSEMBLE is because this will force you to buy another functioning pair from the manufacturer, or if you are getting your brake serviced, the shop will have to do that. Its a legality business decision. Does that mean you cant do it? no and please feel free to do so at your own risk. You people are arguing over a moo point.

Hey, they dont recommend you change stock settings on your suspension on a car, do they? or how about removing airbags? same issue.

p.s. some nice looking calipers here in this thread. however, this is all too much work and its just easier to paint
I dont know why you people are so stupid... I didnt want to do it, but while rummaging through my m10 bolt container I found this old Z32 caliper bolt:



And THAT is one of the many reasons why the FSM states NOT to disassemble the caliper halves, the pistons themselves are perfectly serviceable.


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hate to say it but im completely with ixfxi on this one.. i ran into this problem on a customers full race turbo kit - 06 civic si. i had to replace all the transmission bolts in that bitch because of exactly what he just posted. old steel bolts in soft aluminum calipers

** Also want to add.. I know with our powder coater. they like to sand blast everything. including our threads. i have to thread chase everything it seems like! i would highly recommend thread chasing the bolts AND the calipers. a little antiseize wouldnt hurt either.. you should be ok.

Nice post btw ixfxi.. i like that.
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I have some valve cover bolts in my bin that look like that, I guess I should never remove the valve cover as well.
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hate to say it but im completely with ixfxi on this one.. i ran into this problem on a customers full race turbo kit - 06 civic si. i had to replace all the transmission bolts in that bitch because of exactly what he just posted. old steel bolts in soft aluminum calipers

** Also want to add.. I know with our powder coater. they like to sand blast everything. including our threads. i have to thread chase everything it seems like! i would highly recommend thread chasing the bolts AND the calipers. a little antiseize wouldnt hurt either.. you should be ok.

Nice post btw ixfxi.. i like that.
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I have some valve cover bolts in my bin that look like that, I guess I should never remove the valve cover as well.
Maybe, or maybe you shouldnt use power tools to torque shit down and cross-thread bolts. I have a full set of air tools, impact gun & sockets... and a good 90% of the work I STILL do by hand. Ah yes, the power of the almighty strong-hand.
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a good thread chase kit is worth its weight in gold. sheiit.. you ain't so bad after all ixfxi
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you call people idiots yet you dont read into what they post. the fuck is this? a hoe down? i still will tell you its legality issue and your fucking bolt picture is proof. fuck you.
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^^ this guys from texas


man hes just not understanding the RISK involved with turning that bolt. too much for this texan to understand, i guess.
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Maybe, or maybe you shouldnt use power tools to torque shit down and cross-thread bolts. I have a full set of air tools, impact gun & sockets... and a good 90% of the work I STILL do by hand. Ah yes, the power of the almighty strong-hand.
Wow. I guess your in my garage watching me, well probably not cause then you would see me torquing shit to spec by hand.
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i don't have any fronts but 4 rear z32 calipers painted the correctly corresponding honda civic gold to brembo gold off the z33/sentra calipers. it really didn't turn out close at all but whatever, they're all nice and cleaned up with new boots and such so i'm happy.
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The first set i had:
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After with high temp black paint and polished letters:


I dont have pictures of the second set i had, and i just bought another set last night so when i get em in ill post up pics of what im going to do with em.
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There's always a risk with completely dissembling a lot of things. I disassemble interiors all day long every day. There's always a chance for a clip to break, a panel to crack/break etc. But that doesn't keep me from doing it. I completely broke down my Z32's and Stoptechs. Even re-plated every bolt and all hardware. I had zero issues. However, if one of the bolts would of stripped out on the Z32 halve, then I would of bought another caliper if I couldn't re-tap it. It's no different than doing an engine swap or simply taking an engine out of the bay. The lift could fail, something in the bay could get scratched when putting the engine back in... you name it. But we all still do it... it's a risk we are willing to take. What I have taken from this thread so far is that a lot more people have had success breaking them down over people that have had issues.
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i don't have any fronts but 4 rear z32 calipers painted the correctly corresponding honda civic gold to brembo gold off the z33/sentra calipers. it really didn't turn out close at all but whatever, they're all nice and cleaned up with new boots and such so i'm happy.
Wait is this your front brake set up? Two Z32 rears on each front rotor? Or I am missunderstanding something?

I saw a car in a magazine years ago (I think it was a jetta) that had two calipers on each front rotor. It's almost a cool idea, but wouldn't it greatly reduce the rotor's ability to cool down?
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Wait is this your front brake set up? Two Z32 rears on each front rotor? Or I am missunderstanding something?

I saw a car in a magazine years ago (I think it was a jetta) that had two calipers on each front rotor. It's almost a cool idea, but wouldn't it greatly reduce the rotor's ability to cool down?
your just misunderstanding. or can't read. dual z32 is where its at
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your just misunderstanding. or can't read. dual z32 is where its at
What am I misreading? He said he doesn't have any fronts, but that could mean he has no Z32 front calipers and that the dual Z32 rears ARE his front brake set up OR it could mean that he doesn't have a front brake set up yet. It is worded ambiguously.
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LOL! I seen what you did there.

Took my 30mil aluminum apart. I just took my time with pb blaster and a rechet. I can see fucking it up if you go using air. But if you know anything about working on cars. Your hands can feel when a bolt is streching or breaking and you stop.....
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What am I misreading? He said he doesn't have any fronts, but that could mean he has no Z32 front calipers and that the dual Z32 rears ARE his front brake set up OR it could mean that he doesn't have a front brake set up yet. It is worded ambiguously.

its obviously a work in progress, he has his rears done but hasnt done or doesnt have his front calipers yet.....common sense people....
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There's always a risk with completely dissembling a lot of things. I disassemble interiors all day long every day. There's always a chance for a clip to break, a panel to crack/break etc. But that doesn't keep me from doing it. I completely broke down my Z32's and Stoptechs. Even re-plated every bolt and all hardware. I had zero issues. However, if one of the bolts would of stripped out on the Z32 halve, then I would of bought another caliper if I couldn't re-tap it. It's no different than doing an engine swap or simply taking an engine out of the bay. The lift could fail, something in the bay could get scratched when putting the engine back in... you name it. But we all still do it... it's a risk we are willing to take. What I have taken from this thread so far is that a lot more people have had success breaking them down over people that have had issues.
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Some I recently did with duplicolor satin black brush on. Despite some positive reviews this stuff is shit. Would have powdercoated if I didn't plan to upgrade.

What clear coat are you paint guys using and how does it hold up?


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What am I misreading? He said he doesn't have any fronts, but that could mean he has no Z32 front calipers and that the dual Z32 rears ARE his front brake set up OR it could mean that he doesn't have a front brake set up yet. It is worded ambiguously.
He's got brembo fronts.... this is for the rear.... dual caliper cuz hydro e-brake.


Funny you guys are getting so worked up over splitting calipers.
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Old 05-03-2012, 10:50 AM   #119
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Here are my old z32 calipers that I painted. Started out with teal, thought it looked stupid and repainted them black with gold lettering to match my rims.

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NISSAN sells rebuild kits for both z32 and z33 calipers, but never the halve o-rings.
This is very true.
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