Cnile1

Sources say battle with cancer.

For the last 3 months, his producer Solar had been in control and blocking his family from seeing him in the hospital.... this is strang for some one to have this kind of authority over another man.. some people are thinking that they might have been lovers or some shit and this dude was using that time to get into Guru's estate/will. For the last few years, he broke contact with DJ Premier and ran with Solar, so who knows why...
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What? Thats cold as hell. Another tragedy similar to the death of Jay Dilla.

R.I.P Guru...

Phlip

This is NOTHING like when Dilla died.
When Dilla died, everything was in the hands of his moms as it naturally should have been. The only issue was (and still is) has been the label handing over control of the music to the estate.
On the other side of it, people like Common and Busta Rhymes have been making music at no benefit to themselves and she has been the one making the money off of it, just as she has the past couple dilla posthumous albums.
With Guru, Solar is trying to rewrite history to turn a personal profit out of it, and for that he is a piece of shit snake in the grass...
Fuck Solar.

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simmode1

Word. Is it just me or does anyone else doubt the validity of that letter Guru wrote to the public? I mean, did anyone besides Solar witness him writting the shit? I'm thinking forgery.

The hate between him and Premo seems real one-sided. I could have sworn I heard Premo giving shot-outs to Guru recently. This all just seems really weird and has foul written all over it.

Phlip

EVERYONE doubts it... I started doubting it when it started with the words "I' Guru..." and spiraled from there. The hate for premier and hyping up Solar, saying shit like "the work with Solar has been the best of my career" were what tipped ME off to it.
I am personally PRAYING that Freddie Foxxx (who is PISSED) sees Solar before anyone else does, or at all, and that someone has a camera present.
Yes, it is one-sided and that side consists of the fact that Guru and premier ARE something to hip hop, while Solar was nothing before all this shit started and is now less than nothing (and should probably fear for his safety) since it has happened.

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simmode1

OMG that would be an epic asswhooping, my friend. Epic. Foxxx is sooo dope and grimy!

Cnile1

So what exactly is Solar trying to do?
This whole story sounds sketch...

simmode1

Awww man! hot off the presses! Have you cats seen this?!

http://www.hiphopsite.com/2010/04/22...way-parts-1-4/

Sway interviews Solar about Guru's death and the letter! Soooo.... apparently, the letter is a compilation of notes Solar took from Guru over their time together and his impressions of Guru's intentions, rather than a direct dictation from Guru. Wooow.

I'm gonna choose to believe they weren't gay together, but the rest of this interview is real suspect, IMO. Good job with the direct questions, Sway.

Phlip

My theory, as is shared by many others is that Solar is out for money.
When Gang Starr split, Guru was having money trouble and linked with Solar, who admits to never having even been a Gang Starr fan. From then, Guru became more and more loyal to Solar, even shitting on people from his past and his family. It has been viewed that Solar may have had him on the hook for some money owed against the immediate situation and was using that as leverage for the long term.
When Guru fell ill, he ratcheted everything up and froze EVERYBODY out and then these bullshit statements began popping up that ONLY Solar was to give anyone information, and without fail, the statements talked the unknown Solar up. Still no one knows who the fuck he is and he seems to now be after not only the insurance dough, but all the money that he would be able to make on movie and book deals.
He said THAT part himself in a statement to MTV
Odd, when he had known Premier and the whole of NY hip hop for 20 years before even MEETING Solar, no?
Who better to tell the stories than the people who were actually there and cared with a mind on something more than simple monetary gain?
Monetary gain, you ask?
When people die, people buy there music... Thriller would have topped Billboard if it had been a new album for about 2-3 weeks after MiJack died. The albums strategically mentioned in that "letter" were all on the label that Guru and Solar owned, now solely owned by Solar. Get it? All album sales go to whom?

Solar is a piece of shit.
Fuck Solar.

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tricky_ab

THIS!!! I was thinking the same freakin' thing...

simmode1

Wah?! No comments on the 'Sway interrogates Solar' video?!

C'mon guys! What are your thoughts on it?

brndck

solar is to guru what don king was to mike tyson.

fuck solar.

i can't believe that guru held that kind of animosity towards primo.

again, fuck solar.

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Phlip

I was at work!

I think Solar is lying, or telling lies of omission, here's why...
He was indoors, and wouldn't take his shades off.
Too many "pretty much" and "about 100% sure" as opposed to a simple yes.
Not going to the funeral? I thought you were like brothers? Or are you afraid that Freddie Foxxx, Big Shug, MOP and Premier will be there?
I could keep going

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RIP Guru

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tricky_ab

I haven't had the chance to see it yet (my friend sent me the link). I'll check it out once I'm home...

HyperTek

i do not want to remember Guru for his time with Solar, putting this garbage out


makes me wanna cry.. solar tried to push guru into a style that didnt fit him =(

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simmode1

Gotta be honest... never heard any post-Solar Guru before.


That shits terrible. The first one has Guru sounding like some commercial pop hiphop act while the second one sounds like some bootleg Wu-Tang throwback. There's no continuity between the two sounds. Are they from the same album? Geezuss...

HyperTek

cant forget those electronic songs hes worked on with BT and Ferry Corsten
*dont judge these as rap songs btw, they wherent bad, well to me they where decent but thats because i like BT and Ferry Corsten*



his brother speaks out
My brother, Gang Starr’s Guru - The Boston Globe

turns out he was 48. http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn...042205726.html

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simmode1

Man, that made me tear up a little... Makes me think I need to visit my out of state brother and support his music more...

tricky_ab

Some condolences from twitter:

Shots fired at Solar?

Oh and this is getting good!

Twitter / BumpyKnuckles: ON THE PHONE WITH PREMO!!! ...

What I would do to get Solar alone in a room with Freddie Foxxx and Billy Danze.....

I'd buy the PPV at a high price. I can tell you that much.

tricky_ab

Oh shit...Premier puts Solar on blast! Plus talks about how Guru looked terrible in the hospital and how sad he was that he died alone

Video: DJ Premiere On Solar Declining Visits & Puts Him On Blast! "If You Loved Him. Why The F*ck Did His Nails Look Longer Than A F*cking Ruler?. He Died Alone"

simmode1

Man... Solar is sooo fucked in the head if he thinks he is gonna profit or get away with this shit. Dude gon get murked.

HyperTek

Solar's baby mama interviewed, saying shes seen solar speak down to him, beat him a few times etc
Tasha Denham: "Just To Get A Rep?" | Rappers Talk Hip Hop Beef & Old School Hip Hop | HipHopDX

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simmode1

Wow. Ms. Denham was very brave to give that interview incriminating her baby-daddy like that. I hope she already got them child support papers going on Solar's ass and she's probably gonna need a restraining order after this.

Such an insightful and credible view into the situation. I really feel bad for having adding fuel to the gay rumors earlier. At the time, it was the only thing that made sense to me on why one man would give such power to another man over him. But I'd forgotten that there is another reason for such a decision: the use of religion to twist perception and manipulate others.

I've been in that situation myself. That shit is very very real. With both of them being 5% and Solar having a really bad narcissistic streak, it totally makes sense now. Seems like Solar ingratiated himself upon Guru by helping out with some things early on and relied on warped teachings of the 5 Percenters and took advantage of Guru's extreme asthma/inability to effectively fight back to maintain control over him.

Man, this guy Solar is some piece of work.

Jay'Z

Mass appeal was the shit, and even in 2010 sounds sick.

exitspeed

All this is just sad to me. A legend like this having his reputation smeared when he's gone.

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