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I simply don't get it. Homos are filled with so much hate and animosity to people who don't share their beliefs (aka, decent people).
You are obviously a brainwashed moron, or have no idea what happens to people based on their sexual orientation.

I like many other people on this board have stated have been friends with, worked with, and OMG been in the same room as gay people, and never once have I been "hated on" for not being gay.

What exactly would a "decent" person be? I'm pretty sure you, your parents, and friends, have done some "indecent things/sins" in front of god. So don't act like you're better than anyone else because you fuck someone that has a vagina.

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They are always, ALWAYS going on about having special rights, about how persecuted they are, blah blah blah, etc. Yet they themselves have no tolerance for Normal people, who tell them they are evil.
The reason they're going ON and ON about not having rights is because they DON'T have the rights that straight married couples do.

Because they're not married, they're not allowed to have the same hospital visits that straight couples do when they're significant other is under medical care. They cannot recognize their "union" in the governments eyes to receive the same tax status that straight couples get.

Not only that, they have to deal with close minded homophobes like you being afraid that some gay dude is gonna jump your bones because you're so sure that you're so hot and sexy to a gay dude. Big surprise here, but you're probably not the most attractive person in the world, and I'm pretty sure that if anyone gay or straight knew how much hatred you had in you over something that doesn't directly affect you, they would think you're ugly on the inside too.

They're not sexual deviants they just have a different sexual orientation than yours.

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That is my belief folks! That is what I truly and honestly belief and nothing can make me change that. I truly feel deep down that homosexuals are all going to hell. God made me this way. So why don't homosexuals want me to tell this to them? They are attempting to infringe on our freedom of speech
I don't care to change your beliefs, but I don't mind pointing out how ignorant and foolish your post sounded not to mention the posts you made that follow this one.

GOD didn't make you this way, your church/pastor/parents did. Unless you've been up top and actually shared a word with the man/woman/cow himself.

Why don't gays want you to tell this to them? Because they already know the stigma/hatred/ and socially condemned status they already have, and you'd just be beating a dead horse. Freedom of speech has nothing to do with it.

You guys can picket at gay pride parades all you want with your "Dicks are for chicks" and "God hates fags" posters all you want. Gay people aren't going away just like ignorant fucks like you aren't going away.

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With that over with, I never really post up any sort of ideas or anything on gay rights because I like many others haven't had much to say, but what I said in that post I feel is pretty close to how I feel on the issue.

Gays like everyone else deserve to have rights, just like women did, just like black people, and just like all the other minorities that came to this country eventually did.

This rights movement is no different than any of the other ones that came before it. They just want to be recognized like the NORMAL CITIZENS that they are in this country, and have the same civil liberties as everyone else.
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I simply don't get it. Homos are filled with so much hate and animosity to people who don't share their beliefs (aka, decent people). Gays just seem to absolutely hate Normal people, have no respect at all for us. They are always, ALWAYS going on about having special rights, about how persecuted they are, blah blah blah, etc. Yet they themselves have no tolerance for Normal people, who tell them they are evil.

That is my belief folks! That is what I truly and honestly belief and nothing can make me change that. I truly feel deep down that homosexuals are all going to hell. God made me this way. So why don't homosexuals want me to tell this to them? They are attempting to infringe on our freedom of speech
I understand your dislike for whatever reason about gay people. But you haven't even touched on what this thread is really about.

I have one question for you. Why shouldn't gay people be allowed to marry?
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Couldn't have said it better myself.

Hell, I grew up Catholic(parents/family still are. I am not.)

Grew up being told being gay is a sin, wrong, blah blah blah.

Even after growing up with that mentality, I still say let them do whatever they fucking please.

We're all human. There's no reason they shouldn't be allowed to marry.

If that's what they want, let it be.
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umm... Separation of Church and State is about not being able to make laws that would be for or against peoples religious choices. I think gay people should be allowed to be married. I also think there should not be a law that forces a church to accept it.
No thats not what Im saying ah tall. Ah tall! lol. Politicians are using religion to make excuses why gay people shouldn't be allowed to be married. They work for the people. They should not let their own personal beliefs dictate the lives of the people they work for. Now, Im not much of a "liberal," but I believe that homosexuality is not a choice. I couldn't imagine driving the Weinermobile down the Hershey highway, and there has been scientific evidence that the physiology of gay folk is different than that of strait folk. Gay people should be able to get together and have it be called whatever they want. If a church doesnt accept that, no biggy, thats not the issue. They don't recieve money from the state. The issue is states not allowing two people in love not benefit from being married.
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let gays get married, its the worst to have a kid out of wedlock... ohhh wait...
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Couldn't have said it better myself.

Hell, I grew up Catholic(parents/family still are. I am not.)

Grew up being told being gay is a sin, wrong, blah blah blah.

Funny thing is a friend of mine has a gay uncle who teaches Sunday school for the local Catholic church.
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Old 10-22-2009, 07:20 PM   #39
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I believe that every human should be allowed basic rights....

For those who actively protest or use up energy on going up against gay rights, I wonder what better use that effort can go to! Its much easier and you can actually make a direct impact by helping the homeless, needy, mentor a troubled kid with no direction or foster a child, shit - maybe even talk to local schools about sex outside of marriage! I cant see how the religious people who dedicate all this time towards hating and trying to strip another human of basic rights thinks its worth it!

As for the topic of marriage... It IS a social bond now. Im not 100% sure on the origin, but from what I hear; its incredibly debatable.

This is NOT telling those who are against homosexuality and their rights to accept them. Hell no, thats why we live in America - where you can choose to say what you want and express yourself.... But just take a moment to think about what youre doing to another person! A person who cant help who they are - whats so wrong about letting them marry? Whats wrong with seeing two men or two women hold hands or kiss in public? How does this directly affect you!? Its just ridiculous to me that so many people cannot see past a sexual orientation and realize that there is a sister, brother, best friend, volunteer worker, doctor - A FREAKING PERSON is there!!

Another plus - California could use the revenue brought in by weddings, honeymoons, receptions, retail sale of gowns/tux/food catering/flowers/ etc from legalizing gay marriage....
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I love how people claim that gay people only want to have sex in public.

Im sorry but I work in a strip club and worked in a porn store, and I guarantee you that just as many white collar, god fearing, hetero men would be out fucking women like rabbits in the street if they had the opportunity.
To say the gay rights movement is about open air sodomy is absurd.

Please dont forget people interracial marriage has only been legal since 1967, and at the time black people were getting blasted with fire hoses and mauled by police dogs just to get equal rights.
Its a long hard road but someday the regime has to change if we want to continue touting ourselves as having the most free country in the world.
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Hillary Duff says not to use the word "gay"
like as in "dude that car was so gay" true story saw that commercial last night.

I kinda see that but then again i've had gay friends are used it around them they was cool in that sense just aslong as you dont mean it in a offensive way.

marriage gonna happen some day for them sillys you know.

ITs just the way people are brought up. I have friends that hates gays to the fullest ..

to each there own.
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I kinda see that but then again i've had gay friends are used it around them they was cool in that sense just aslong as you dont mean it in a offensive way.
Depends on the gay person. In my experience they're usually cool with it.
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I pretty much agree with everyone one here except slowpo. I'm heterosexual and one of my room mates is gay. When she brings her girlfriend over here it doesn't affect me at. There have been times when she's had a lot of her friends over. I've never had any of them have any sort of hate towards me from them. Nothing that they've done has every had any negative affect on me.

I feel as though if any of them ever decided that they wanted to spend the rest of there life together that they should be allowed to. It would have no negative affect on me. They should be able to have the same rights as me if I were to get married to my girl friend.
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all people should have equal rights and protection under the law. as for gay/sexist/racial/religious slurs: all people need to have thicker skin. words are just words-get over it
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so......it's illegal for 2 dudes to get married? where's the crime? Oh yeah, THERE IS NONE. Where's the victim? Oh yeah, THERE IS NONE!

God has WWWWWAAAAAAAAYYYYYYY too much hold in state laws. It's a damn shame. Honestly, the only reason why it's illegal is because people think being gay is gay.
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The reason they're going ON and ON about not having rights is because they DON'T have the rights that straight married couples do.

Last time I checked... a straight man and a gay man can both marry a woman and a straight man and a gay man cannot marry another guy.

Sounds pretty fair to me.
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so......it's illegal for 2 dudes to get married? where's the crime? Oh yeah, THERE IS NONE. Where's the victim? Oh yeah, THERE IS NONE!

God has WWWWWAAAAAAAAYYYYYYY too much hold in state laws. It's a damn shame. Honestly, the only reason why it's illegal is because people think being gay is gay.
god created marriage. your right, lets just get rid of marraige all together that way there's no discussion.



My only problem with gay marraige is the fact it's called marraige. I don't care what its called, just dont' call it marriage because that's NOT what it is. Besides, dont' civil unions give all the rights a marraige does?
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Last time I checked... a straight man and a gay man can both marry a woman and a straight man and a gay man cannot marry another guy.

Sounds pretty fair to me.
again, victimless crime. why is it prohibited again? oh yes, because people love to hate the gaaaaaaaays.
And you know what? It's accepted to hate the gays. sad sad world we live in.
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god created marriage. your right, lets just get rid of marraige all together that way there's no discussion.



My only problem with gay marraige is the fact it's called marraige. I don't care what its called, just dont' call it marriage because that's NOT what it is. Besides, dont' civil unions give all the rights a marraige does?
ahahahahaha. god CREATED marriage? Not only do you have much to learn but you have to learn to say things on websites that just aren't true. Marriage has existed LOOOOOOONG before the bible. The Christian form of marriage is just what you're more familiar with and as long as the country mixes church and state then they'll probably be no gay marriage. But you see, this country was created to escape religious prosecution so you then have a conundrum.
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again, victimless crime. why is it prohibited again? oh yes, because people love to hate the gaaaaaaaays.
And you know what? It's accepted to hate the gays. sad sad world we live in.
how in the world did victimless crime get in here?


Seriously, the gay peopel want "gay marriage" and the straight people aren't for marraige... The gays want all the rights married couples do (and they do in my state, its just not called marraige) and the straight people don't want them to have any rights at all.


So, doesn't it make sense to meet somewhere in the middle? Allow a form of marraige but dont' call it marraige?

Both parties have to give some to get some, right now the gays want it all.

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The Christian form of marriage is just what you're more familiar with and as long as the country mixes church and state then they'll probably be no gay marriage. But you see, this country was created to escape religious prosecution so you then have a conundrum.
Um, which church is beign endorsed here? And, how do you even know its called a church? Mosque perhaps?

AND, who is being persecuted under any Religious belief? I don't see anything in the constitution about a certain religion, maybe you might wanna check out that constitution sometime and notice that all it says is "GOD".

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You are one rude guy. Each state varies, it may not be 100% the same but its pretty damn close in my state.
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how in the world did victimless crime get in here?


Seriously, the gay peopel want "gay marriage" and the straight people aren't for marraige... The gays want all the rights married couples do (and they do in my state, its just not called marraige) and the straight people don't want them to have any rights at all.


So, doesn't it make sense to meet somewhere in the middle? Allow a form of marraige but dont' call it marraige?

Both parties have to give some to get some, right now the gays want it all.



Um, which church is beign endorsed here? And, how do you even know its called a church? Mosque perhaps?

AND, who is being persecuted under any Religious belief? I don't see anything in the constitution about a certain religion, maybe you might wanna check out that constitution sometime and notice that all it says is "GOD".



You are one rude guy. Each state varies, it may not be 100% the same but its pretty damn close in my state.
pretty damn close doesn't really work...
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Old 10-23-2009, 06:50 PM   #56
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how in the world did victimless crime get in here?


Seriously, the gay peopel want "gay marriage" and the straight people aren't for marraige... The gays want all the rights married couples do (and they do in my state, its just not called marraige) and the straight people don't want them to have any rights at all.


So, doesn't it make sense to meet somewhere in the middle? Allow a form of marraige but dont' call it marraige?

Both parties have to give some to get some, right now the gays want it all.
so blacks could drink water and use the bathroom but they can't use MY bathroom.
Yeah, sounds stupid now doesn't it?
And most straits want gays to have equal rights. I'm a very strait man and want everyone to have equal rights. Along with YOU to have the right to pray to any god you so chose. But to pick and chose what freedoms you want to take away is antiAmerican, my friend.



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Um, which church is beign endorsed here? And, how do you even know its called a church? Mosque perhaps?

AND, who is being persecuted under any Religious belief? I don't see anything in the constitution about a certain religion, maybe you might wanna check out that constitution sometime and notice that all it says is "GOD".
Oh, I'm sorry, both Thomas Jefferson and the United States Supreme Court is wrong. Excuse my errors.



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You are one rude guy. Each state varies, it may not be 100% the same but its pretty damn close in my state.
Same state as you pal, and if one mans partner is in the hospital only his spouce and family could see them. So their partner wouldn't be able to see them in their last moments. Not only that but property has no bearing either.
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pretty damn close doesn't really work...
I'm sure the black drinking fountain was next to the all whites drinking fountain. ehhhh, close enough.
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um mi beardo es loco, what the FUCK are you talking about???

can you try to stay on topic here. what the fuck does black men and drinking fountains have to do with gays at all??

being GAY is not a race. There are GAY black guys, GAY white guys and GAY asian guys believe it or not.


There was no RACISM involved here, RACE. Being gay is NOT A RACE you retard. You can't be of the BLACK race and the GAY race at the same time can you? NO.



And you know what jackass, if the laws aren't exactly the same then fight to make those laws equal. You are one of those of super liberal in your face assholes cause you are so damn passionate about this and is all pissed off. Seriously, you can't even contribute to a topic without going off on tangents.

Can you seriously not see what I'm saying? COMPROMISE.




And explain your comments jackass, united states and Thomas Jefferson? Like I'm suppose to know what you are referring to.
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Old 10-23-2009, 07:15 PM   #59
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um mi beardo es loco, what the FUCK are you talking about???

can you try to stay on topic here. what the fuck does black men and drinking fountains have to do with gays at all??

being GAY is not a race. There are GAY black guys, GAY white guys and GAY asian guys believe it or not.


There was RACISM involved here, RACE. Being gay is NOT A RACE you retard. You can't be of the BLACK race and the GAY race at the same time can you? NO.



And you know what jackass, if the laws aren't exactly the same then fight to make those laws equal. You are one of those of super liberal in your face assholes cause you are so damn passionate about this and is all pissed off. Seriously, you can't even contribute to a topic without going off on tangents.

Can you seriously not see what I'm saying? COMPROMISE.




And explain your comments jackass, united states and Thomas Jefferson? Like I'm suppose to know what you are referring to.
It's ok man, you can just say it......you hate slur. That's what this is all about, hate. You HATE the idea of a man suckin a dick so you have to think that it's ok they have no rights. So what if a man likes a large black penis in their ass. So what. Who's the victim? the pitcher or the catcher?
Nah, so hate em all and not let em get married.
And I'm a liberal asshole because I think there should be equal rights for all in America.
Strong words from a Libertarian to a man who doesn't understand seperation of church and state. It's like talking to a wall.....with a picture of Jesus on it.
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