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IKnowAllOfNothing · 09-23-2006, 02:03 AM

1)How does $50+ shipping sound, i think that would be fair.
Sounds fair

2)Should I include hardware? This will increase price a bit depending on how much i can source the hardware for.
Yes

3)Should i have the option to have them powder coated for an extra $10? By request only.
Nope

4)Would you be interested in a kit that comes with rotors? Brembo blanks, slotted, or drilled and slotted depending on preferance. I will have to figure out pricing if so.
Maybe, and two-piece would be a cool option as well

"build it and they will come"

timtiminy · 09-23-2006, 10:16 PM

Maybe that will give you a better idea of what the hubcentric ring for the rotor does, and how it looks.

turtl631 · 09-24-2006, 11:36 AM

In all honesty, most 240 owners are cheapasses. While a few people will run 2 piece rotors and such, most just want bigger front rotors for looks (most likely) or better bias on the track (me). Both sets of people are far more likely to buy your kit if they can run readily available $40 rotors, rather than $120 powerslots or $250 2 piecers. Also, since there are already at least 2 sources for brackets to run Z33 track rotors, I'd say you should try to get the cobra ones done first. I'd be up for a set.

EDIT: Rockauto.com, great site, has Raybestos PG Plus Cobra rotors for $25.99 each. Can't beat that! I'll take rotors that are 10x cheaper any day, whether for street use or track. Even if the cheap ones are crappier and need to be replaced more often, there's no way the more expensive rotors are gonna come close to being that good a value. Check honda-tech's road race/autocross forum, most of the guys doing honda challenge, etc just run autozone blanks. If you want some fragile drilled/slotted bling or $$$$ 2 piece rotors, go for it, but I think most people here would be better served with inexpensive blanks.

EDIT 2:
1.) $50 plus shipping is fair
2.) Included hardware would be nice, you can probably buy in bulk and save everyone money
3.) Powercoated only if necessary for rust prevention, so it really depends what material you go with.
4.) Personally, I'd source my own rotors to save money.

HyperTek · 09-24-2006, 12:30 PM

^ in that pic, the hole pattern/size looks horrible since its bigger then the stud.. so it would really relie on the hubcentric ring.. could that become a problem?? and the hat spacing looks more flat in that pic, is this true? it looks like it would bring the caliper further out, which might have a effect on some wheels. Please confirm thanks

Inland180 · 09-24-2006, 12:40 PM

which ever one will work for me! Im down to buy a couple sets of brackets for what ever you make them.count me in!

timtiminy · 09-25-2006, 02:01 PM

the bracket will bring the caliper out about 10mm more than the regular z32 setup, this is because the cobra rotors have a different offset. this can be remedied by the use of wheel spacers. not you will have to use 17" wheels or bigger to use the 13" rotors anyhow. The hubcentric ring will keep the rotor centered. as for the lug holes..this is something that shouldn't be a problem but i may do "lugcentric" rings instead just to keep everything centered keep everything nice and tight instead of there being any type of slop in the rotor. this would be a more expensive option just cause you would have to get rings instead of two. but i may use hubcentric rings and one "lugcentric" ring to keep it tight...only problem there is the balance of the rotating assembly. so its either one or the other.

redsuns3838 · 09-25-2006, 02:19 PM

Z33 track rotors. keep it in the fizzam.

upSLIDEdown · 09-25-2006, 02:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by timtiminy

the bracket will bring the caliper out about 10mm more than the regular z32 setup, this is because the cobra rotors have a different offset. this can be remedied by the use of wheel spacers.

This will be a problem for some people such as myself. I need something that won't protrude any more. Does anyone know if the Z33 rotors have the same hat offset as Z32?

timtiminy · 09-25-2006, 10:06 PM

the z33 rotors are the same offset as the z32 so it wont bring the caliper out any further. z33 brackets will prolly be closer to $100, and z33 rotors are a bit more expensive than cobra rotors.

zads · 09-26-2006, 12:27 AM

I say make the Cobra kit; you can add +2 sets for the confirmed buyer list (if you make them).

1)How does $50+ shipping sound, i think that would be fair.
Sounds fair to me.

2)Should I include hardware? This will increase price a bit depending on how much i can source the hardware for.
Make it an option?

3)Should i have the option to have them powder coated for an extra $10? By request only.
I'd take the powdercoat option for sure.

4)Would you be interested in a kit that comes with rotors? Brembo blanks, slotted, or drilled and slotted depending on preferance. I will have to figure out pricing if so.
Make it an option, too.

turtl631 · 09-26-2006, 08:03 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by timtiminy

z33 rotors are a bit more expensive than cobra rotors.

Hardly a bit more expensive, the cheapest Z33 rotors available cost cost about $100 more EACH than the cheapest Cobra rotors available. That starts to add up real quick when you're tracking your car and burning through rotors. If you start looking at 2 piece rotors, for example RacingBrake, it seems that Z33 rotors might be a little cheaper, but very few people will actually run such rotors. Besides, there are already several options for Z33 rotor brackets, both from a reputable store and from ebay. Why try to compete with them when you can make something entirely different that will attract a new subset of customers? Give us an alternative to $$$ SPL brackets with expensive Z33 rotors.

HyperTek · 09-28-2006, 11:24 AM

the problem i see with pushing the caliper outward would be the brake line issue.. some lines might already be stretching out at full steering locks.

What about making the bracket to adapt 3000gt rotors? thats a known swap for z32s.. would making a bracket for that rotor be any more costly compared to teh z33 bracket?

wilfonzo · 09-28-2006, 01:08 PM

cobra drilled to 4lug with hubcentric rings and brackets for z32 calipers
if this goes through PM me im down for a kit

HyperTek · 09-28-2006, 02:02 PM

haha what 4 lug wheels will clear that setup?? no offense...

wilfonzo · 09-28-2006, 03:51 PM

none taken, i like having the extra 400$ in my pocket rather than in an extra 4 lug studs

my bandwagon sportmax's 18x8.5+30

... please no one turn this into a 5 lugs are better than 4 debate, i really dont care

timtiminy · 10-04-2006, 10:33 AM

Z32 caliper w/ cobra rotor:

Z32 caliper w/ 350z track rotor:

ECR33 caliper w/ cobra rotor:

ECR33 caliper w/ 350z track rotor:

Slidin240Wayz · 10-04-2006, 11:09 AM

That's so hot. Is the caliper closer to the strut tower? The fact of stretched SS lines is not something I want.

Carlos

Siizzzoooo · 10-04-2006, 11:33 AM

I dunno, I think its gonna be hard to compete against the SPL kit

you're pricing atleast $100 for the caliper bracket, which leaves $330 for Z33 track edition rotors.

yeah you can spend about $200 for some decent rotors, but why not just spend the extra for some PowerSlots

For the price of the SPL kit, you get everything including bolts, washers, and everything you need to do the upgrade minus the Z32 calipers and conversion lines

i just see it easier to buy it as a kit, rather than piecing it together to save a few bucks imho

it would be a great seller for $50, but for $100...you might not make your money back on R & D

upSLIDEdown · 10-04-2006, 11:55 AM

You can get Powerslot rotors from PDM for $130/each. Only $30 more per rotor than Z32 rotors.

timtiminy · 10-04-2006, 12:25 PM

wilfonzo: if you do a 4 lug redrill on the cobra rotors you wont be needing the hub rings because you will be drilling the exact size lug holes to keep the rotor solid and centered.
I think i may steer clear of the hub rings and go with spacers for the lugs/lug holes on the cobra kit which will eliminate any possibility of the rotors sliding because of the play on the lug holes. and it will keep the rotor solid and centered.

Slidin240Wayz: on the R33 caliper brackets the caliper has to sit offset, its about 25* either up or down depending on which way you put the brackets. I dont forsee brake line stretching to be a problem, but if it does end up being an issue i will look into brake line extensions or longer brake lines.

Siizzzoooo: That is why i originally wanted to stick with the cobra rotors, but what i want to do is supply something for a cheaper price with great quality as an option to other kits, so if that means me making a kit that is similar to spl I will do it. Spl sells their brackets only, for $179 so mine for $100 doesnt sound horrible, and if i get a good source on rotors(which i am in the works with) I may be able to offer a full kit for cheaper than what spl sells. maybe even conversion lines and calipers, although that would put my kit in a price range that wouldnt sell as much and i dont want a bunch of stuff sitting around when i can move what you guys want. Thank you for your oppinion, i am trying to take in as much critisism and oppinions as possible, these parts are for you guys, i want to make what you guys want and make it reasonable.

HyperTek · 10-04-2006, 01:05 PM

Hey dont forget you would also have the 300zx z32 guys interested in these as well so that should open up your market, and maybe the aussie and euro guys in other countries. =D

timtiminy · 10-04-2006, 02:51 PM

yeah i havent forgotten the 300zx guys dont know too much about the skyline guys since its overseas, kind of want to keep it here for the time being, but good suggestion. thanks a bunch.

wilfonzo · 10-04-2006, 02:51 PM

[QUOTE=timtiminy]wilfonzo: if you do a 4 lug redrill on the cobra rotors you wont be needing the hub rings because you will be drilling the exact size lug holes to keep the rotor solid and centered.
I think i may steer clear of the hub rings and go with spacers for the lugs/lug holes on the cobra kit which will eliminate any possibility of the rotors sliding because of the play on the lug holes. and it will keep the rotor solid and centered.
QUOTE]
good call, didnt even think about that...

maybe i missed it but whats an est. price of brackets + hardware. and what year cobra's are we talking here?

LB.Motoring · 10-04-2006, 02:57 PM

again. z33 ftw.... With the cobras, sloppy stud holes, which is really bad idea.. you have to remmber there will be that back and forth slop on and off the brake, but with even with the hub centric now its putting extreme stress.....Also the rotor face is too shallow, people allready have problems with brake clearance as it is....

id say, z33 let the buyer worry about rotors.. I allready found me a set...cheap!

Slidin240Wayz · 10-04-2006, 02:59 PM

If you make like 3-4 inch extensions, i'm down for the cobra setup with R33 calipers.

Carlos

turtl631 · 10-04-2006, 03:48 PM

The cobra setup could be so cheap with the right rotors, I don't see why you wouldn't do it. Plus there's NO COMPETITION. Seems like a no-brainer to me. From the pics you posted, the brackets look much simpler as well, which is nice. Just have to figure out a good solution to make them XXX-centric.

LB.Motoring · 10-04-2006, 04:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by turtl631

The cobra setup could be so cheap with the right rotors, I don't see why you wouldn't do it. Plus there's NO COMPETITION. Seems like a no-brainer to me. From the pics you posted, the brackets look much simpler as well, which is nice. Just have to figure out a good solution to make them XXX-centric.

with the correct rotors. I'd Like to see me a set of cobras good face offset.

HyperTek · 10-04-2006, 04:19 PM

3000gt VR4 Rotors.. since they are from a japanese car, my guess is the bore might be simular and shouldnt have the nasty stud holes.. and the back spacing is prolly jus as bad as the cobra rotors.. but these rotors are cheap too so I would suggest these.

LB.Motoring · 10-04-2006, 04:28 PM

Oh yah there cheap, even in name brand...

http://streetbeatcustoms.com/rot168460320-d4.html

mmm face... looks like shallow tho.. =|

timtiminy · 10-04-2006, 08:12 PM

well the stud hole slop wont be a problem on the cobra rotors cause i am going to do spacers that will make the cobra lug holes smaller to fit the nissan studs instead of hubcentric rings. there will be no slop and they will be centered. I will look into 3000gt vr4 rotors as an option.

09-24-2006, 12:30 PM	#34
HyperTek Post Whore! Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Cali Posts: 13,222 Trader Rating: (3) Feedback Score: 3 reviews	^ in that pic, the hole pattern/size looks horrible since its bigger then the stud.. so it would really relie on the hubcentric ring.. could that become a problem?? and the hat spacing looks more flat in that pic, is this true? it looks like it would bring the caliper further out, which might have a effect on some wheels. Please confirm thanks __________________ Keep it Classy

09-24-2006, 12:40 PM	#35
Inland180 Nissanaholic! Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Southern Cali Posts: 1,763 Trader Rating: (21) Feedback Score: 21 reviews	which ever one will work for me! Im down to buy a couple sets of brackets for what ever you make them.count me in! __________________ PTE6262 Full-Race Twin Scroll FTW! Feedback LINK

09-28-2006, 11:24 AM	#42
HyperTek Post Whore! Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Cali Posts: 13,222 Trader Rating: (3) Feedback Score: 3 reviews	the problem i see with pushing the caliper outward would be the brake line issue.. some lines might already be stretching out at full steering locks. What about making the bracket to adapt 3000gt rotors? thats a known swap for z32s.. would making a bracket for that rotor be any more costly compared to teh z33 bracket? __________________ Keep it Classy

09-28-2006, 02:02 PM	#44
HyperTek Post Whore! Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Cali Posts: 13,222 Trader Rating: (3) Feedback Score: 3 reviews	haha what 4 lug wheels will clear that setup?? no offense... __________________ Keep it Classy

10-04-2006, 10:33 AM	#46
timtiminy Zilvia Addict Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Socal Posts: 624 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Brackets coming soon....screen shots Z32 caliper w/ cobra rotor: Z32 caliper w/ 350z track rotor: ECR33 caliper w/ cobra rotor: ECR33 caliper w/ 350z track rotor:

09-23-2006, 02:03 AM	#31
IKnowAllOfNothing Zilvia Member Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Norcal Age: 40 Posts: 200 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	1)How does $50+ shipping sound, i think that would be fair. Sounds fair 2)Should I include hardware? This will increase price a bit depending on how much i can source the hardware for. Yes 3)Should i have the option to have them powder coated for an extra $10? By request only. Nope 4)Would you be interested in a kit that comes with rotors? Brembo blanks, slotted, or drilled and slotted depending on preferance. I will have to figure out pricing if so. Maybe, and two-piece would be a cool option as well "build it and they will come"

09-23-2006, 10:16 PM	#32
timtiminy Zilvia Addict Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Socal Posts: 624 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Maybe that will give you a better idea of what the hubcentric ring for the rotor does, and how it looks.

09-24-2006, 11:36 AM	#33
turtl631 Zilvia Addict Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Milwaukee WI Posts: 900 Trader Rating: (3) Feedback Score: 3 reviews	In all honesty, most 240 owners are cheapasses. While a few people will run 2 piece rotors and such, most just want bigger front rotors for looks (most likely) or better bias on the track (me). Both sets of people are far more likely to buy your kit if they can run readily available $40 rotors, rather than $120 powerslots or $250 2 piecers. Also, since there are already at least 2 sources for brackets to run Z33 track rotors, I'd say you should try to get the cobra ones done first. I'd be up for a set. EDIT: Rockauto.com, great site, has Raybestos PG Plus Cobra rotors for $25.99 each. Can't beat that! I'll take rotors that are 10x cheaper any day, whether for street use or track. Even if the cheap ones are crappier and need to be replaced more often, there's no way the more expensive rotors are gonna come close to being that good a value. Check honda-tech's road race/autocross forum, most of the guys doing honda challenge, etc just run autozone blanks. If you want some fragile drilled/slotted bling or $$$$ 2 piece rotors, go for it, but I think most people here would be better served with inexpensive blanks. EDIT 2: 1.) $50 plus shipping is fair 2.) Included hardware would be nice, you can probably buy in bulk and save everyone money 3.) Powercoated only if necessary for rust prevention, so it really depends what material you go with. 4.) Personally, I'd source my own rotors to save money.

09-25-2006, 02:01 PM	#36
timtiminy Zilvia Addict Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Socal Posts: 624 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	the bracket will bring the caliper out about 10mm more than the regular z32 setup, this is because the cobra rotors have a different offset. this can be remedied by the use of wheel spacers. not you will have to use 17" wheels or bigger to use the 13" rotors anyhow. The hubcentric ring will keep the rotor centered. as for the lug holes..this is something that shouldn't be a problem but i may do "lugcentric" rings instead just to keep everything centered keep everything nice and tight instead of there being any type of slop in the rotor. this would be a more expensive option just cause you would have to get rings instead of two. but i may use hubcentric rings and one "lugcentric" ring to keep it tight...only problem there is the balance of the rotating assembly. so its either one or the other.

09-25-2006, 02:19 PM	#37
redsuns3838 Zilvia Addict Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: dog town Posts: 969 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Z33 track rotors. keep it in the fizzam.

09-25-2006, 10:06 PM	#39
timtiminy Zilvia Addict Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Socal Posts: 624 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	the z33 rotors are the same offset as the z32 so it wont bring the caliper out any further. z33 brackets will prolly be closer to $100, and z33 rotors are a bit more expensive than cobra rotors.

09-26-2006, 12:27 AM	#40
zads Zilvia Junkie Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: san diego, ca Age: 37 Posts: 303 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	I say make the Cobra kit; you can add +2 sets for the confirmed buyer list (if you make them). 1)How does $50+ shipping sound, i think that would be fair. Sounds fair to me. 2)Should I include hardware? This will increase price a bit depending on how much i can source the hardware for. Make it an option? 3)Should i have the option to have them powder coated for an extra $10? By request only. I'd take the powdercoat option for sure. 4)Would you be interested in a kit that comes with rotors? Brembo blanks, slotted, or drilled and slotted depending on preferance. I will have to figure out pricing if so. Make it an option, too.

09-28-2006, 01:08 PM	#43
wilfonzo Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: dunedin florida Posts: 33 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	cobra drilled to 4lug with hubcentric rings and brackets for z32 calipers if this goes through PM me im down for a kit

09-28-2006, 03:51 PM	#45
wilfonzo Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: dunedin florida Posts: 33 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	none taken, i like having the extra 400$ in my pocket rather than in an extra 4 lug studs my bandwagon sportmax's 18x8.5+30 ... please no one turn this into a 5 lugs are better than 4 debate, i really dont care

10-04-2006, 11:09 AM	#47
Slidin240Wayz Post Whore! Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Everywhere Age: 36 Posts: 5,427 Trader Rating: (9) Feedback Score: 9 reviews	That's so hot. Is the caliper closer to the strut tower? The fact of stretched SS lines is not something I want. Carlos __________________ Support Zilvia by purchasing a sticker!

10-04-2006, 11:33 AM	#48
Siizzzoooo Zilvia FREAK! Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Murfreesboro,TN Posts: 1,355 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	I dunno, I think its gonna be hard to compete against the SPL kit you're pricing atleast $100 for the caliper bracket, which leaves $330 for Z33 track edition rotors. yeah you can spend about $200 for some decent rotors, but why not just spend the extra for some PowerSlots For the price of the SPL kit, you get everything including bolts, washers, and everything you need to do the upgrade minus the Z32 calipers and conversion lines i just see it easier to buy it as a kit, rather than piecing it together to save a few bucks imho it would be a great seller for $50, but for $100...you might not make your money back on R & D

10-04-2006, 11:55 AM	#49
upSLIDEdown Nissanaholic! Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: VA.. And for those that keep PMing me asking what kit I have, it's Origin Stream. Posts: 1,728 Trader Rating: (3) Feedback Score: 3 reviews	You can get Powerslot rotors from PDM for $130/each. Only $30 more per rotor than Z32 rotors. __________________

10-04-2006, 12:25 PM	#50
timtiminy Zilvia Addict Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Socal Posts: 624 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	wilfonzo: if you do a 4 lug redrill on the cobra rotors you wont be needing the hub rings because you will be drilling the exact size lug holes to keep the rotor solid and centered. I think i may steer clear of the hub rings and go with spacers for the lugs/lug holes on the cobra kit which will eliminate any possibility of the rotors sliding because of the play on the lug holes. and it will keep the rotor solid and centered. Slidin240Wayz: on the R33 caliper brackets the caliper has to sit offset, its about 25* either up or down depending on which way you put the brackets. I dont forsee brake line stretching to be a problem, but if it does end up being an issue i will look into brake line extensions or longer brake lines. Siizzzoooo: That is why i originally wanted to stick with the cobra rotors, but what i want to do is supply something for a cheaper price with great quality as an option to other kits, so if that means me making a kit that is similar to spl I will do it. Spl sells their brackets only, for $179 so mine for $100 doesnt sound horrible, and if i get a good source on rotors(which i am in the works with) I may be able to offer a full kit for cheaper than what spl sells. maybe even conversion lines and calipers, although that would put my kit in a price range that wouldnt sell as much and i dont want a bunch of stuff sitting around when i can move what you guys want. Thank you for your oppinion, i am trying to take in as much critisism and oppinions as possible, these parts are for you guys, i want to make what you guys want and make it reasonable.

10-04-2006, 01:05 PM	#51
HyperTek Post Whore! Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Cali Posts: 13,222 Trader Rating: (3) Feedback Score: 3 reviews	Hey dont forget you would also have the 300zx z32 guys interested in these as well so that should open up your market, and maybe the aussie and euro guys in other countries. =D __________________ Keep it Classy

10-04-2006, 02:51 PM	#52
timtiminy Zilvia Addict Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Socal Posts: 624 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	yeah i havent forgotten the 300zx guys dont know too much about the skyline guys since its overseas, kind of want to keep it here for the time being, but good suggestion. thanks a bunch.

10-04-2006, 02:57 PM	#54
LB.Motoring Post Whore! Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: SòCal♥ Age: 35 Posts: 5,840 Trader Rating: (1) Rides Gallery: LB.Motoring Feedback Score: 1 reviews	again. z33 ftw.... With the cobras, sloppy stud holes, which is really bad idea.. you have to remmber there will be that back and forth slop on and off the brake, but with even with the hub centric now its putting extreme stress.....Also the rotor face is too shallow, people allready have problems with brake clearance as it is.... id say, z33 let the buyer worry about rotors.. I allready found me a set...cheap! __________________ Robby Leuer

10-04-2006, 02:59 PM	#55
Slidin240Wayz Post Whore! Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Everywhere Age: 36 Posts: 5,427 Trader Rating: (9) Feedback Score: 9 reviews	If you make like 3-4 inch extensions, i'm down for the cobra setup with R33 calipers. Carlos __________________ Support Zilvia by purchasing a sticker!

10-04-2006, 03:48 PM	#56
turtl631 Zilvia Addict Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Milwaukee WI Posts: 900 Trader Rating: (3) Feedback Score: 3 reviews	The cobra setup could be so cheap with the right rotors, I don't see why you wouldn't do it. Plus there's NO COMPETITION. Seems like a no-brainer to me. From the pics you posted, the brackets look much simpler as well, which is nice. Just have to figure out a good solution to make them XXX-centric.

10-04-2006, 04:19 PM	#58
HyperTek Post Whore! Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Cali Posts: 13,222 Trader Rating: (3) Feedback Score: 3 reviews	3000gt VR4 Rotors.. since they are from a japanese car, my guess is the bore might be simular and shouldnt have the nasty stud holes.. and the back spacing is prolly jus as bad as the cobra rotors.. but these rotors are cheap too so I would suggest these. __________________ Keep it Classy

10-04-2006, 04:28 PM	#59
LB.Motoring Post Whore! Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: SòCal♥ Age: 35 Posts: 5,840 Trader Rating: (1) Rides Gallery: LB.Motoring Feedback Score: 1 reviews	Oh yah there cheap, even in name brand... http://streetbeatcustoms.com/rot168460320-d4.html mmm face... looks like shallow tho.. =\| __________________ Robby Leuer

10-04-2006, 08:12 PM	#60
timtiminy Zilvia Addict Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Socal Posts: 624 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	well the stud hole slop wont be a problem on the cobra rotors cause i am going to do spacers that will make the cobra lug holes smaller to fit the nissan studs instead of hubcentric rings. there will be no slop and they will be centered. I will look into 3000gt vr4 rotors as an option.

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