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Old 01-18-2009, 01:50 PM   #91
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obama was voted in by media popularity and skin color.

only problem is, when rep. bash obama, all the liberals will think theyre racist. man this wrl is efffed.

Its only going to get worse. Racism is starting to be a free pass for anything.

Im a victim of racism every fucking 5 minutes, oh wait im not a race, thus im screwed out of a couple fucking million dollar lawsuits.
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listen to you guys prattle on about racism and free passes and liberals like this is 1995. jesus christ.
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listen to you guys prattle on about racism and free passes and liberals like this is 1995. jesus christ.
If you think it is bad now, wait until Barack Hussein Jesus Christ Obama really IS president.
I love how people ignore the fact that he is still technically a regular citizen, as he had to resign from the Senate and is not president yet.
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If you think it is bad now, wait until Barack Hussein Jesus Christ Obama really IS president.
I love how people ignore the fact that he is still technically a regular citizen, as he had to resign from the Senate and is not president yet.
i hate when people are so goddamn stuck in the past. like when women think i'm gonna hold the door and shit.
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I laugh at people who complain about gas prices.

I had a kid in a class of mine complain when gas was like 3.50 a gallon and I asked him what he drove. He drives a Honda Civic. I Laughed in his face, Called him a idiot and said come talk to me when you start driving more than 10 miles a day. (Civic ~30mpg x ~10 Gallon Tank = 300 miles to the tank which means he rarely fills up more than once a month)

Had a friend of mine say something to me the first time it took more than $100 to fill up the tank(s) in his truck. He said something along the lines of "I have a truck, I drive like a jerk, I get 12mpg, and I still don't care about gas prices - Thats why I have a job"

In all seriousness, Obama is probably going to cause a rise in gas prices. I really don't care. I need to go places my car burns gas so why would I complain about something I need to use. When everyone is driving thier little zippy electric cars and hybrids I'll still be driving my dinosaur burning battle machine.

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listen to you guys prattle on about racism and free passes and liberals like this is 1995. jesus christ.

What is that shit supposed to mean? They went to the other side of the spectrum, and I doubt it affects yourself....yet.
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I average 25 miles per gallon...
I drive 20 miles to work, 25 to the gym and 5 home from the gym, 5 days a week, that is 250 miles... Weekends, it is 5 to and from the gym, with a mix of normal "weekend" driving, so let's call it 300 miles a week. 12 gallons of gas, at $4.00 would be $48.00 a week.
If I can't afford that, I shouldn't be driving, because I have failed to properly plan.
I would honestly not bitch about the increase in the price per gallon. No, I wouldn't like it when it triples, but I am not going to cry about it. I will suck it up, pay the funds and continue to go to fucking work.
What I WILL do, though, is blame it on Bill Clinton and Barack Hussein Jesus Christ Obama, since they're evil socialist communist Democrats, and everything that was EVER wrong with the country is their fault.
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did you know that abraham lincoln was a democrat? that's why the country had a civil war.
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did you know that abraham lincoln was a democrat? that's why the country had a civil war.
OMG he is getting sworn in on the Lincoln Bible and took the same train route. We are so going to civil war.
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is it any coincidence that his inauguration is so close to MLK day? OMG
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Can't we just start killing off poor people and bums and use THEM to make new fuel?

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obama was voted in by media popularity and skin color.

only problem is, when rep. bash obama, all the liberals will think theyre racist. man this wrl is efffed.


Not racist just close minded. I wonder why all of these accusations placed on the president-elect are outlandish. Not trying to play devil's advocate(but why not). If he WASN'T a person of color and had a different name such as John Christopher Thomas would we even have this debate?

On topic again, Seeing that gas prices will go back up anyway i'm worried the motherfuckers will try to siphon my shit or drill my tank. Oh well.
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that sucks i never got to drive my car on the cheap gas prices =(
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the amount of bullshit/bitching in this thread is overwhelming...

people just need to accept life as it is, change what they think is wrong, or kill themselves. whiners are not tolerated.
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I did not read this whole thread...



True. You can't fight geography... The reason North America is a gas hog? It has no choice. The next major city from where I am is a further distance than most European countries are from border to border east - west or north - south. It's two nations that occupy an area larger than 3 of the continents on the globe that contain 50+ nations.

The distance from me to Toronto for example... Is further than the distance from London to Berlin and nearly back again. But I never have to leave the country.



It's true for the most part. However, come where I live and stay for one winter living on a farm when it's -50 outside and snow depth is measured in feet, not inches. You NEED a big ass truck that's gonna use gas. A civic hybrid won't start in the morning if it's outside, let alone make it down the driveway after a blizzard.

I'll completely agree however that A LOT of fuckers out there have vehicles like that they do not need. Both here and elsewhere.



You pay 6.35 a gallon. Good for you. I can drive in any direction and never leave the province I'm in and it would be farther than driving across Germany.

Not saying you don't understand, I'm just saying the comparison is invalid. I know you're an American in Europe so you get what I say. But IME a lot of Europeans who criticize American and Canadian use of fuel etc. have never been here... They have no concept of the sheer size and distances between places here. Not to mention (especially in the central and west central parts of Canada) the harsh conditions in winter that necessitate that consumption.

Where I live we have a large influx of European immigrants at the moment... Every single one I've talked to is changing their tune about here and the gas prices. They know even though it's cheaper, we still pay more cause we have to. A guy I go to school with wanted to drive to Calgary, Alberta with some people. He figured on it being about a 2-3 hr. trip.

He nearly didn't believe me when I informed him it's closer to 6-7 and it would be further than if he drove across his home country of France.

His response "But it's just over in the next province!"
Mine: "But you're 200 miles from the border to the next province here, and it's another 200 to Calgary after that."

He also informed me he never put more than 200 miles on his car in a month back home. I told him people here can do that in less than a week, and still be actively trying to save gas. People from Europe it would seem just don't grasp the DISTANCES we have to deal with here.

But whatever. The price of gas, is the price of gas. I'll pay it and not let it affect my life. It's dirt cheap (kinda) now... I'm working on filling jerry cans.
You're absolutely right with your statement.

But it's also important to remember that the U.S. and Canada have directly and indirectly subsidized and developed an infrastructure that's reliant on the private automobile.

This didn't used to be the case. The United States (and I assume Canada as well) for example actually had more miles of commuter track in the early part of the 20th century than in the second half.


The system in Europe isn't perfect by any means and wouldn't work if most U.S. cities if planners tried to implement the same strategies.

The auto-centric transportation infrastructure in North America is a direct result of prosperity and consumer societies. The downside to all that comfort and luxury is that when operating costs increase, owners of POV's are going to be a lot more sensitive to the rise in prices.
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Can't we just start killing off poor people and bums and use THEM to make new fuel?

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Statistically, that is the quickest means to getting rid of minorities. Since we, you and me, HATE minorities, that would be a wonderful solution.
I say we go forward with it.
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I laugh at people who complain about gas prices.

I had a kid in a class of mine complain when gas was like 3.50 a gallon and I asked him what he drove. He drives a Honda Civic. I Laughed in his face, Called him a idiot and said come talk to me when you start driving more than 10 miles a day. (Civic ~30mpg x ~10 Gallon Tank = 300 miles to the tank which means he rarely fills up more than once a month)

Had a friend of mine say something to me the first time it took more than $100 to fill up the tank(s) in his truck. He said something along the lines of "I have a truck, I drive like a jerk, I get 12mpg, and I still don't care about gas prices - Thats why I have a job"

In all seriousness, Obama is probably going to cause a rise in gas prices. I really don't care. I need to go places my car burns gas so why would I complain about something I need to use. When everyone is driving thier little zippy electric cars and hybrids I'll still be driving my dinosaur burning battle machine.

i like how your friend doesnt care that he has to pay for higher gas prices and be chill with it. really, im glad for him

but when some of you say you have to properly plan around filling up, thats just rediculous! its "im low on gas, time to fill up" not "i have a quarter tank, looks like these tickets to *blahblah* are no good to me now since i cant get to the damn concert!" its a shame when you cant spend money to boost the economy when half your paycheck goes towards gas!

it was 40 miles one way to work with traffic thrown in when i had to drive my dad's ram cuz my car was down. im happy for everyone that has money and flaunts it saying poor people shouldnt drive anyway.
its hard to get to work with gas that high. means more people cant get to work. now what sensible employer is going to hire someone that isnt there half the time? we are on the teetering edge of a depression, so when no one has a job they can get to....i think you know the rest...
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Gas prices in Europe and Japan are dependent on the level of taxation.

We don't have a gas shortage worldwide. We have a gas shortage in this country because we depend on a group of outside people who, in general, hate our guts.

We have a country in tens of trillions of dollars of debt. Increased taxation will come as certain services come very close to or just plain collapse. Right now, in California, you pay $0.63/gal total tax on gasoline. Of that $0.63, $0.184 is federal tax. On diesel, the tax is $0.72/gal total, $0.244/gal federal.

They could raise those taxes quite a bit higher now that the state is bankrupt, unable to pay bills by the second quarter.

There is also the problem of the green movement. Apparently, it's our duty to the world to lead on the environmental issues. Green costs money, a LOT of money. It also costs fuel economy, as this part-ethanol gas has lower energy potential.

Not my most coherent post, but I'll post it just the same.
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Psssssssssst, the rest of the world has reasonable public transportation and major cities that aren't hundreds of miles from each other.
Have you ever been outside of the U.S? In England public transport costs more than taking my car to where I go to collage; over a hundred miles from where I live (which is considered very close). I was paying up to $8.60 per gallon to put petrol in my S14.

Stop whining.
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I agree with BH.

Gas is already starting to Creep up here. Went for $1.65-$1.95 in two weeks. Failure is emminent. Why cant they make gas cheap in the summer and expensive in the winter.

summer car= premium octane v8
winter car= i dont even know why i put gas in it. I should try toilet water
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Let's do it.
Statistically, that is the quickest means to getting rid of minorities. Since we, you and me, HATE minorities, that would be a wonderful solution.
I say we go forward with it.

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The recession was caused by Bill Clinton, it belongs to Barack Hussein Jesus Christ Obama, no blame is to be placed on the failure of the current administration, nor is anyone to do anything like noticing that Barack Hussein Jesus Christ Obama will not be president until Tuesday and nothing he does will take effect for months or years AFTER Tuesday.
Also, please post more pictures of the worst of the worst as if that is EVERYONE who supported Obama, we need that to prove just how bad a president he is.
... oh wait, he ain't president yet, he has only had the powers of one since before being elected.
If I catch anyone blaming George Bush for any ten things, I will ban you until George W. Bush has a successful presidency,
Sorry, you're wrong.

The recession, like all recessions were/are created by the monetary policy of the Federal Reserve. Interest rates are controlled by our central banks. High interest rates = scarce credit, low interest rates = easy credit. The economy is too dynamic for a board of wisemen to know when rates are too low or too high. These rates need to be set by the market. We all know what low interest rates does when it it's too low for too long. We're living thru it right now.
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The recession, like all recessions were/are created by the monetary policy of the Federal Reserve. Interest rates are controlled by our central banks. High interest rates = scarce credit, low interest rates = easy credit. The economy is too dynamic for a board of wisemen to know when rates are too low or too high. These rates need to be set by the market. We all know what low interest rates does when it it's too low for too long. We're living thru it right now.
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Old 01-19-2009, 12:06 PM   #116
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the amount of bullshit/bitching in this thread is overwhelming...

people just need to accept life as it is, change what they think is wrong, or kill themselves. whiners are not tolerated.
Seriously. People getting defensive over the sarcasm thats being thrown out there.

On another note, if gas didnt slowly deteriorate I would hoard large amounts then sell it by the gallon in some back alley or on the corner.
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Old 01-19-2009, 01:02 PM   #117
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You people are so ghetto.

But not Brooklyn, Compton, or Dirty South, ghetto.

More like Mogadishu gheddo.

I mean, come on...hoarding gasoline?
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Old 01-19-2009, 01:30 PM   #118
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One person? Come on am I locked in a cage? That is a typical democratic response. That response will continue for a few year untill enough people catch on.

What is your profession?
I meant to include not in that "I'm NOT here to defend Obama". Racism will get worse and this situation will act as a catalyst. Also, mmany people voted for Obama because honestly the country has been in the hands of a completely imbecilic administration with the sole purpose of fattening their pockets off the backs of others.

P.S- I'm not a fucking democrat dumbass. And my profession plays no role in my views and never will.
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Old 01-19-2009, 07:41 PM   #119
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Can't we just start killing off poor people and bums and use THEM to make new fuel?

Anybody?

has this been brought up yet?


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Old 01-19-2009, 08:06 PM   #120
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Yeah, but they will be the "poor" of the rich.
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