coreyh

ccw is totally jocking rotas style. just like rays, works, and ssr are all stealing xxrs designs. STOP COUNTERFEITING

mau5trap

Lmfao. haha

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Here you go

mechanicalmoron

Am I the only one with no intention in ever buying rotas, but who would give the counterfeits a shot? Somehow counterfeiting a lame counterfeit is less insidious than counterfeiting a good wheel.

tricky_ab

Nope, you're not... I'm not giving that company any of my money.

Then again, I never really looked at those "types" of rims in the first place so...

bc.

You mean the type called "knock-offs"? Yeah, me either.

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simmode1

Dude, just go to Wheelflip or something. Buy some lame sized but legit 2 piece wheel for cheap & have it rebarrelled/widened to your liking. It's possible to do all this and only be marginally more expensive than decent sized Brotas.

And as for Rota's new wheel, XXR beat them to the punch with that one:

Gizmo_S13

The irony...

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OutlawLui

Damn can't wait to get some leggit wheels.


I feel like the kid in school with Bear Air shoes, with my xxr's

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S14Dzenki

So people already say not to buy rotas because they're fragile and someone decides to go ahead an counterfeit it to make it even more fragile and flimsy? What are they thinking....

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zerodameaon

Unless by some freak accident they turn out to be better quality. The law of infinite probability says some day that will happen. Could be that Rota is just pissed their copy brand is better than their stuff.

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FRpilot

Dear customers, please be warned that we have become aware that there are counterfeits of our products circulating on the market.

We advise you to be careful when purchasing counterfeits... please make sure you are buying LEGIT counterfeits for your safety...

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97nismo

Legit counterfeits.....hahahahahahaha

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ultimateforce

Don't want to start a big derail here, but I don't think I could call these counterfeit. That style of spoke has been on wheels for a long time.

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xoxide

CCW has a very distinct form of mesh wheels. It is very obvious Rota blatently ripped the CCW design off. I wouldnt expect you to understand though, Orlando.

ultimateforce

I was talking about those XXRs you dickhead.

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simmode1

Lol... he still doesn't get it...

ultimateforce

No I get it just fine. That is probably the most "ripped off" wheel spoke design of all time. The Rota replica is exact to CCWs down to the fake multi-piece wheel studs and is a obvious knock-off.

Those XXRs are knock-offs of the "open spoke" BBS style, but that style is again probably one of most copied styles of all time at this point. I don't really see BBS losing a lot of sleep over that one.

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simmode1

There are some pretty big/obvious differences in the mesh styles of BBS & CCW. But XXR has copied them both with their 521 & 531 wheels.

Rota is probably the biggest name in the counterfeit wheel game right name, but XXR has been beating them for the past couple years now. But then again, winning that game is like winning at the Special Olympics.

But at least XXR will drop a few original designs occasionally, like the 526 and 535.

LoneStarSilvia

LOL.

Compares street wheel design to that of a F1 car and calls it the same.

That's like saying all white wheels are rip off of each other because they're the same color.

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Corbic

Joking aside -

By the sound of it, Rota does do safety testing, so regardless of busted Rota pictures, they are meeting a minimal standard. JWL standard - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Rota is not upset about someone steeling their "style or design", they are upset and concerned with someone selling an "inferior" product and calling it a Rota. There is a huge difference between making a TE37 clone that's cheaper (while not being as nice) and making a TE37 clone and saying it's in fact a TE37 made by Volk.

So when your clone breaks - your blaming Volk, or in this case Rota - even though neither company is responsible.

This hurts the consumer and the brand. Like it not, Rota has established themselves as a "go to" brand for import fans looking to modify there cars. Honda kids and Subie owners don't give two shits about Rota's being knock-offs. This seems to be an exclusively 240sx + Volkswagen thing.

Corbic

For denim, do you exclusively wear 501s?

imotion s14

Hope everyone knows there is a differences between a "copy" and "counterfeit/counterfeiting"

Yeah Rota copies the design of other wheel manufacturers, but they're not counterfeiting. Counterfeiting is when you copy something with the intent to pass it off as something else. In layman's term it's copying + fraud.

simmode1

Nah, but I'm sure XXR does...


You guys do make some great points though about Rota's reasoning for being angry. I remember a thread on NICO ages ago where Subydude/Wheeldude actually provided some input on the quality assurance processes that they use over at Rota. Despite being blatant replicas of existing products, I wouldn't really fear for my life if I had to use their wheels.

I used to be a supporter of inexpensive wheel companies like Rota & XXR. But now I know that there are reasonably priced alternatives to ripping of the R&D that reputable companies have put into their work. So now, I wouldn't say that I'm a Rota/XXR basher, but I'm just indifferent. Spend your money however you want to.

Corbic

Honestly, I'd like to see this "R&D". I mean does Volk offer some sort of spec on their wheels, TE37's hold X-number more torques then Wed Cerberus3? They can sustain X-number more wrecks, ect ect.

I honestly think 90% of the wheels any of these guys sell is "no fucks given to performance". Yes, obviously weight is always a factor, and so is meeting a minimal standard of strength and durability, but with that said, would you buying some other wheel or off-set over your preferred one because it's 6-oz less?

XXR and Rota are not really competing with the big-names in performance. We all know their wheels are heavier and come in more limited sizes - we also all expect them to not be as durable or repairable. With that said, 90% of the tuner kids are just hard-parking. Legit wheels are not cooler because they are 3lbs lighter and let you get first place because you had the optimum tire size - they are cooler because they are expensive as fuck and you can wave your dick around.

Shits all peacocking. Girls buy purses and shoes, ricer boys buy wheels and body kits.

As far as durability, I know dozens of guys that have done thousands of drift runs at the track with "knock off wheels" - only time I saw a wheel break is when a car hit the wall - and that car was fucking totaled so who cares.

!Zar!

Imagine if you spent X-Time and Y-Money on designing something and then someone comes along to rips off your design. But not only that, they begin to sell it with inferior quality and a lower price.

It's easier to steal somebody else's idea than it is to make your own.

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sidewaysil80

A year hiatus and people are still whining like little girls with skimmed knees about the same shit.

slowvia

Apparently the import world only cares when a bargain company rips off an expensive Japanese company.

Cragar SS:


American Racing Torque Thrust:


Work VSKF:


Not to mention Work Meisters vs. SSR Professors.
Everyone is ripping everyone off. Even Work CR Kai's are a rip off of stock Toyota Camry wheels from the 90s.
Camry proof:


At least Rota doesn't brand their knock offs with their competitors name. That's why they're upset. And I don't blame them, I'd be upset too.

cj1977

I watched something on Youtube about counterfeit Rotas and they do not withstand the same abuse as real Rotas or even good wheels period.

xoxide