jworks

I'm in the market for buying a new 360, I was looking at the arcade version because I think 120gigs for the elite with a $300 price tag and I only have $200 in my pocket

I'm also wondering about the reliability of the newer models, from what I've looked up online the arcade version is the only version that is getting the new jasper chip (correct me if I'm wrong) Does anyone have this new chip in their xbox? and if so has it caused any problems?

thanks

X2daC

The newer models have the better chips in them.

Consult the 360 wiki page for a quick history on the differences.

And don't cheap out, pick up the Elite. It's worth the extra cash.

punk138

rumor has it that they are making a new xbox already...

can anybody confirm this?

if so i would rather wait...

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kyoru

What game do you play? I wish I got a PS3 instead cause I play so much street fight and the xbox pad blow goats. Anyways the newer xbox's are reliable (well, way more then the older ones)

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HyperTek

i want one too, id just get whichever model and mod it off the bat.. open it up flash the bios on the cdrom and reseat the heatsinks

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sleep

Yeah but modding it stops you from being xbox live capable. And xbox live is a must for me.

!Zar!

Probably. I mean, there will always be a, "newer" system. But each system lasts what, six years before a successor comes out to it?

Cool thing about the xbox arcade is that the OS is stored on flash memory. So once you buy a HD you will have 100% of the HD to use for memory. As opposed to the regular 360's that install the OS on the HD which will take up a chunk of your space.

I'd say buy a new arcade and then buy the HD. Don't wait for the next system. Because with that logic, you will be waiting forever because a "newer and better one will be coming".

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Future240

This.

You will want that HDD space. Plus the elites seem to be more realiable. I have a regular they sent me after s RROD and it has been running strong for a year.

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FaLKoN240

If you only have $200 I'd just lowball someone on craigslist.

Try to find one of the newer ones.

You can usually find the newer ones out by looking at the manufacturing date, and the power brick has a different voltage.

I forget what all that stuff is, I bought mine a while ago and it RROD, and they got it back to me with the quickness.

Don't wait for the new 360. That's pointless like what Zar said.

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jworks

thanks for the input guys, I think I might just go for the arcade. Oh and when you get on xbox live are the update files large? I was thinking about getting a 20gig since it seems the most economical. I'm not going to store any music, videos or demos. Also I already have a ethernet cable so does that just plug right up to the 360?

!Zar!

Trust me, go with the 120gig. The 20gig fills up like nothing.

Just be smart about it and search around on craigs. This is going to be the last month to get a dirt cheap 360 since people will start shopping for the holidays soon.

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Flipzide

just save up the extra money and get an elite. holiday seasons are a good time to get a 360 because usually they come with 2 free games. as for the lifetime of the 360, this generation is going to be longer than the last, imo. so invest in one if you want one.

as for modding, i heard the latest models aren't compatible with the current "mods" out. also modded 360s work on live. i personally don't do it, but it's possible. it's the pirated game ISO that you play that will get you busted; not the "mod" itself. it's a hit or miss.

recently, M$ announced that they will be adding an update that will disable 3rd party memory cards and (i believe) HDD mods. so be aware of that if you buy a used 360..
http://majornelson.com/archive/2009/...e-devices.aspx

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jworks

Does it take that much space to just play games and go online?

Future240

Yes it can.

Eventually you will want to DL your games to your HDD, (which makes them load faster and the console run quieter) I have 12-15 games and I have 10GBs of space left with a 20GB HDD. So I guess it depends on how much you play.

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!Zar!

As stated above, some games run much better stored on the HD. But don't forget that the downloadable content has to go somewhere. As well as save files and games that you can only download through xbox live.

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sleep

then there is downloadable content for every game that takes up alot of space. Ballad of gay tony comes out next week

zenki.life

haha. gay tony. i loled when i saw a commercial for that.


and yes the OP will want a 120gig. allows you to

1. download your games on the your HDD for faster and quieter play
2. download all your music for play back during gameplay(games that support it)
3. every little download that xbox live requires
4. xbox live movies/previews

i could go on....20 gig is not enough. think about it.

MY IPHONE HAS MORE GIGS THAN THAT!!!!!!!!!!!!!! so 20g is pidly

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S13shaka

eh thats not necessarly true. Really depends on the player you are, how much money you want to spend on downloadable content. For me the 20 gig is plenty, the only thing I d/l are demos which I end up erasing the next day or so. The two games I play, bad company and forza, run plent smooth from disc as well.

you can find elites for cheaper than 300 new on ebay, IIRC I saw on xbox live a few weeks ago netflix advertising a $50 rebate on new elites, so yeah its really up to you

pignose4life

honestly you should just hit up craigslist i was checking it out right now and i saw an elite system and a game for $180.

s13silvia03

I got a newer 360 (forget the name but the one with 20g HD)with HDMI off of ebay for $120 something, it was refurbished but works fine, never had any problems with it. You could probably get the one without the HD pretty damn cheap, then use extra money to get 120g HD, which you could probably get fairly cheap on ebay too. Just make sure to buy from a seller with good feedback and a return policy if anything would happen to go wrong.

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andisan

I say get the modern warfare edition with 250g of memory HEHEHE, no im kidding i say buy the 20g, I say it because i have the elite and Ive downloaded so many demos and videos and ive used like 50g or so but thats cuz im lazy, i should go and erase all the demos and videos i dont need. 20g is enough to start, then you can upgrade to a bigger hard drive if you need more space. The download content or updates for xbox live dont take up much space either, the most ive seen is no more than a gig, oh and i think you cant join xbox live with the arcade model, correct me if im wrong, and you NEED xbox live, its what the 360 has going for it self. perfect time to get a 360 since modern warfare 2 is on its way cant wait.

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Helghast

False.
I've been modded for YEARS, and still on LIVE.
Simply wait till the game officially comes out to jump on LIVE.

@OP:

Buy the newest Arcade then buy a hacked HDD from ebay.
The OEM x360 HDD is a Western Digital Scorpio.
People buy these HDD and format it so the 360 can read it.

They go for about $60 on eBay.

The rumor about M$ detecting the HDD is for the Datel Memory Cards.
(then again, I could be wrong.)

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meteorite_flo

Um no, my friend has a modded xbox, and he gets to go online and play with us.

ZX88

buy a 360 at best buy. get a two year warrante. done. spend the extra 30 bucks and your covered till the new one comes out.

i cant tell you how many times the Warrante helped me out. i just bring my box back to best buy when it red rings or i brick it.

if you mod it the correct way you can go online.

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FaLKoN240

If you like games, get the 120gb.

I'm a pretty avid gamer, (I play more games than I watch TV).

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ClutchKickThatBitch

After owning every system that has came out I saw it is worth buying the 360 there are so man ways to fix the rrod so I wouldn't worry as much and yes I would say save up your cash for the elite cuz you will need that hdd. I personal just orders the new modern warfare 360 and it comes with a exclusive 250gig HDD that wont be sold separate so you know I am gonna fill that B***H up with all kinda crap

exitspeed

360 is a pile of shit. Had mine fixed and it just RROD on me again this weekend. Fuck X-Box. I will NOT be buying their next console unless it's to make money off of the first day so i can buy the next Nintendo or PS.

I've never ONCE had a console fail on me and the first console I owned was the Atari 5200. I've had a 5200, 2 NES's, Genesis, 32X, Jaguar, PS1, Dreamcast, PS2, Gamecube, Wii, and a 360. Ever console I've owned worked until the day i sold it which back then I played video games WAAAAAAY more then I do now. Hours upon hours at a time. Now if I play for an hour I'm lucky. Yet this pile of shit has failed on me twice. If it weren't for Shadow Complex I wouldn't even have bothered having it fixed in the first place.

Fuck this piece of fucking pile of garbage shit!

Yeah I'm pissed in case you're wondering.

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stenJDM

sorry to bring it out, but dont cheap out, buy a ps3

!Zar!

It has nothing with being cheap. Xbox has more games that are fun to play with friends online.

My 360 has never rrod'd on me. I know friends who had ps3 problems, but this thread isn't a, "what's better" thread. So don't turn it into one.

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markyd0s

Buy a 360 and mod that mother f*cker! Trust me you wont be disapointed.