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Old 10-23-2009, 07:22 PM   #61
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Another funny thing is catholic priests making love to boys.
And the fact that the current Pope was not only a Nazi but a man who was fully responsible for conceling the fact that priests touched little boys by transferring that priest.
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Main Entry: mar·riage
Pronunciation: \ˈmer-ij, ˈma-rij\
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Etymology: Middle English mariage, from Anglo-French, from marier to marry
Date: 14th century
1 a (1) : the state of being united to a person of the opposite sex as husband or wife in a consensual and contractual relationship recognized by law (2) : the state of being united to a person of the same sex in a relationship like that of a traditional marriage <same-sex marriage> b : the mutual relation of married persons : wedlock c : the institution whereby individuals are joined in a marriage
2 : an act of marrying or the rite by which the married status is effected; especially : the wedding ceremony and attendant festivities or formalities
3 : an intimate or close union <the marriage of painting and poetry — J. T. Shawcross>
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I understand your dislike for whatever reason about gay people. But you haven't even touched on what this thread is really about.

I have one question for you. Why shouldn't gay people be allowed to marry?
Personally I know many gay people; Who also say things are gay and make gay jokes just as most other people.

I don't see a reason why they shouldn't be allowed to marry. Let them be happy. The chances for them to adopt are much higher than a straight family. That means that you can give kids in foster care hope, happiness, and stability.

People don't, "choose" to be gay. I know people who have been caught in the struggle of denial growing up as a child. Going so far as forcing themselves to do what they think is, "normal". Eventually some end up finding out the truth while others end up fighting the struggle their whole life.

What if a man gets a sex change. Does that mean he can still marry a woman because he was born a man?

What about a hermaphrodite? Who are they allowed to marry?

I'm a Christian. Does that mean I disagree with gay marriage? No. Everyone is quick to say gay marriage is a sin. But so is causing people pain and agony.

So what would you think is a worse sin? Stopping people from marrying because you don't feel it's holy and causing them a lifetime of misery or allowing them to marry?

Everybody sins. Let them marry, it isn't a big deal.

The only people against it are the people who haven't had any real interaction with homosexuals. From how most speak, they act like gay people are sex crazed nymphos who want to fuck every living and breathing person that is their same gender.

Shit, I've been hit on MANY times by gay people. I find it funny as well as a complement.
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Another funny thing is male priests making love to boys.

Quite an ignorant statement dont you think? Do you even know any Catholics?
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Gay people are just people to me. I don't care what sexually excites you, that is your business. I have been hit on by a gay dude blatantly and didn't care. Its not that big of a deal.

I judge a person by what kind of person they are, not what they do in the bedroom. I agree with Chris Rock on gay marriage. "Gay people have every right to be miserably married as the rest of us"
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Last time I checked... a straight man and a gay man can both marry a woman and a straight man and a gay man cannot marry another guy.

Sounds pretty fair to me.
This statement to me is irrelevant.

What is the point in marrying someone you don't have real feelings for?

Also, why would you want the marriage rights to someone you don't care about.

The whole issue on gay marriage is the rights between the pair of gays don't exist.

I don't give a shit about a gay man marrying a woman, that's not what this is about.

Off topic: I know a gay man that married a woman and had 2 kids and after 30+ years of being married he came out that he was gay.

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um mi beardo es loco, what the FUCK are you talking about???

can you try to stay on topic here. what the fuck does black men and drinking fountains have to do with gays at all??

being GAY is not a race. There are GAY black guys, GAY white guys and GAY asian guys believe it or not.


There was no RACISM involved here, RACE. Being gay is NOT A RACE you retard. You can't be of the BLACK race and the GAY race at the same time can you? NO.



And you know what jackass, if the laws aren't exactly the same then fight to make those laws equal. You are one of those of super liberal in your face assholes cause you are so damn passionate about this and is all pissed off. Seriously, you can't even contribute to a topic without going off on tangents.

Can you seriously not see what I'm saying? COMPROMISE.




And explain your comments jackass, united states and Thomas Jefferson? Like I'm suppose to know what you are referring to.
The reason he's bringing up the whole black rights thing is that black people are born black, and there's nothing they can do to change that.

They were discriminated on something they were born with. Not much you can do to change that.

Just like homosexuals are born being attracted to members of same sex.

You're not really trying here.

I don't even know why I'm replying to you, everyone's statements fall on deaf ears.

Also, the only one getting really up in arms over this whole thing is you.

You're getting all defensive when you came in here and stated your ideas and beliefs.
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I don't believe in gay marriage. But honestly I just stopped giving a fuck. Marriage really isn't even taken seriously now a days. I've got buddies in the marine corps that have been hitched just so they don't have to live in the barracks. Not to mention the extra cash. World is going to shit. I give up. Lol
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hot (prefferably bi) girls making out is one thing.
beer-bellied butches doing their thing is, well, i'll just mind my own business.
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I agree with ms!3(what are you some fucking gangbanger or something)
I think gay people should be able to be domestic partners and share benefits just like a normal married couple and if they so chose but I think should be able to be LEGALLY married that is just out of the question....somethings just ain't right man...fu*k that two men being married just ain't right!!!! If you just listen to the vows that a pastor or officiant has to say during a wedding everything has to be modified for two men or even two women...its just weird......But at the end of the day when I think about this whole thing who really give a fu*k if you want to marry another man go ahead......everything else in this world is F'd up and going down hill anyway might as well be happy.
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Here is my suggestion to this and will help you guys understand it better.

Find a gay dude that you know and fuck each others brains out and see how you feel the next day. You might change your mind, you may not. But tell us after.
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Here is my suggestion to this and will help you guys understand it better.

Find a gay dude that you know and fuck each others brains out and see how you feel the next day. You might change your mind, you may not. But tell us after.

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guys marrying guys = more pussy for me.

most girls who turn gay aren't worth it anyways...(most)
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Quite an ignorant statement dont you think? Do you even know any Catholics?
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Here is my suggestion to this and will help you guys understand it better.

Find a gay dude that you know and fuck each others brains out and see how you feel the next day. You might change your mind, you may not. But tell us after.
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Personally, think its kinda disgusting. But then again, I like some pretty kinky stuff with the mrs.

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Key question is once gays are allowed to married. Should they be allowed to adopt kids?
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They already can. You can be single and adopt. To be able to adopt you have to prove that you can provide a good and loving upbringing to a child. Single women or men can do this, so can gays or straights.

They even have there own adoption agency (its not uncommon for minorities to have adoption agencies that understand the unique problems that come with their particular group adopting children).

Information for Gay and Lesbian families seeking to adopt through open adoption.

However they do have trouble in some states having the actual adoption being recognized when its a same sex couple. I think alabama and Utah are states where it is bared.
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They already can. You can be single and adopt. To be able to adopt you have to prove that you can provide a good and loving upbringing to a child. Single women or men can do this, so can gays or straights.

They even have there own adoption agency (its not uncommon for minorities to have adoption agencies that understand the unique problems that come with their particular group adopting children).

Information for Gay and Lesbian families seeking to adopt through open adoption.

However they do have trouble in some states having the actual adoption being recognized when its a same sex couple. I think alabama and Utah are states where it is bared.
See thats, that bullsh*t now when your kids come home from school, their asking you why little Mikey has TWO FATHERS, or TWO MOTHERS...........don't you guys realized things aren't supposed to go this way. If everybody is gay man kind will seise to exist. Until one of you nasty pillow biting bastards can fuck another man and produce a baby then maybe they should allow you to get married but until then HELL NO!!!!!!!!!!
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Do you realize how overpopulated the world is these days?

Do you realize how many children are abused, or end up dead because their BIRTH parents can't or won't care for them?

Gay unions and adoption help in both of those situations. Now, if you can't explain to your kids that people are different, and that they don't deserve to be ridiculed and condemned for not being just like you, then maybe you shouldn't be allowed to marry anyone or procreate yourself.

So much hate for what's different.
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Do you realize how many children are abused, or end up dead because their BIRTH parents can't or won't care for them?

Gay unions and adoption help in both of those situations. Now, if you can't explain to your kids that people are different, and that they don't deserve to be ridiculed and condemned for not being just like you, then maybe you shouldn't be allowed to marry anyone or procreate yourself.

So much hate for what's different.
Thank you ThatGuy for that post. I'm glad to hear that there are parents out there who are raising there kids the way I was raised and the way I WILL raise my kids when I have them. Some times I feel like I'm one of only people who feels that way in the south.

People need to get off their high horses and realize that just because a group of people is different than themselves that they aren't any better.

So what you live to a different set of morals RUTH'LESS DET. Who's to say that your morals are right.

I'm going to guess you've based your assumptions off of some sort of religious views. And if I'm wrong so be it. I went to a private school and took lots of religion classes. I can promise you in %90 of the religions we studied one of the biggest pillars of their teachings were that you were not to judge another person and deem yourself better than anyone else.

Does anything somebody being gay does to hurt you? Has your life ever been negatively affected by somebody being gay? The worst thing I can imagine is being in a somewhat awkward social situation that could easily be laughed off during or after the fact or solved with an easy apology.

So what if they raise their kid to be more open minded and accepting to peoples differences? Or that its ok to be who ever you really are and to be comfortable with yourself.

Kids can't be shielded for ever or from everything.

I don't see anyone getting upset when somebody adopts a baby and raises to some religion they don't agree with.

Sorry for the long rant. but living with someone who is gay and realizing the kind of stuff (esp being in the south) she goes through for being gay I'm amazed at how people act. People in her own family refuse to talk to her because she has a girlfriend now. I mean really to tell someone you no longer love them because of who they happened to fall in love with is b.s.

Also I want you to know that I KNOW I'm no better than any other person out there. I have my own problems and vices. I just believe that people need to learn to let others live there own live and to live your own. I try not to judge people by the mistakes they make and I could only hope others do that for me too.

To me a measure of a person is the good things they choose to do in life.
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So much hate for what's different.

That is the plain Truth right there.. History is full of this exact phrase.. War's were started based on that phrase.
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Thank you ThatGuy for that post. I'm glad to hear that there are parents out there who are raising there kids the way I was raised and the way I WILL raise my kids when I have them. Some times I feel like I'm one of only people who feels that way in the south.

People need to get off their high horses and realize that just because a group of people is different than themselves that they aren't any better.

So what you live to a different set of morals RUTH'LESS DET. Who's to say that your morals are right.

I'm going to guess you've based your assumptions off of some sort of religious views. And if I'm wrong so be it. I went to a private school and took lots of religion classes. I can promise you in %90 of the religions we studied one of the biggest pillars of their teachings were that you were not to judge another person and deem yourself better than anyone else.

Does anything somebody being gay does to hurt you? Has your life ever been negatively affected by somebody being gay? The worst thing I can imagine is being in a somewhat awkward social situation that could easily be laughed off during or after the fact or solved with an easy apology.

So what if they raise their kid to be more open minded and accepting to peoples differences? Or that its ok to be who ever you really are and to be comfortable with yourself.

Kids can't be shielded for ever or from everything.

I don't see anyone getting upset when somebody adopts a baby and raises to some religion they don't agree with.

Sorry for the long rant. but living with someone who is gay and realizing the kind of stuff (esp being in the south) she goes through for being gay I'm amazed at how people act. People in her own family refuse to talk to her because she has a girlfriend now. I mean really to tell someone you no longer love them because of who they happened to fall in love with is b.s.

Also I want you to know that I KNOW I'm no better than any other person out there. I have my own problems and vices. I just believe that people need to learn to let others live there own live and to live your own. I try not to judge people by the mistakes they make and I could only hope others do that for me too.

To me a measure of a person is the good things they choose to do in life.
you right i rest my case..........I just think its just absolutely sickening to think i man and another man should be married!!!!!
ADAM AND EVE, NOT ADAM AND STEVE!!!!!!
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you right i rest my case..........I just think its just absolutely sickening to think i man and another man should be married!!!!!
ADAM AND EVE, NOT ADAM AND STEVE!!!!!!

then stop watching Gay Porn....
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So your whole argument is simply against a Male/Male union?

Your fear and hatred seem to be based solely in ignorance.
The same thought process that said man should not sail the oceans, for FEAR that monsters would eat them.
FEAR that the world was flat, simply because ignorant men couldn't imagine anything beyond their sight range.
FEAR that allowing women to vote would lead to the overthrow of a male dominated culture.

FEAR that there really is a monster in your closet, and your right in there with him.
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