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KiLLeR2001 · 04-02-2009, 09:19 AM

Hello Zilvians. My trip to work was far from the norm this lovely morning. I would like to start off by saying thanks to God for a chain of events that was executed perfectly in such a way that left me and my car unharmed.

This is my car...

A 1990 240sx Hatchback w/ SR20DET.

Ok now for the story...

I'll try to make this short because I'm at work right now. About 15 minutes into my trip on the way to work a retarded driver I will forever deem as "the idiot".

I was heading westbound on a 2 lane road. I was in the left lane. There were cars behind me as well as cars to the side of me in the right lane, including the idiot. However, to the front of me there wasn't another car for a good 300ft or so. So naturally, I try to close to gap by down shifting and letting the turbocharger take effect. It was at this time, the idiot decides to get over from the right lane to make a u-turn through the median (with no turn signal, naturally), all as my car is gaining speed. The idiot realizes that another car is in the median waiting to perform a u-turn as well but that car was stopped in the median because of oncoming traffic in the other direction. So the idiot decides to park his car basically in its entirety in the left lane; yes folks, the same left lane that my turbocharged 240sx is traveling in at an increasing speed. I basically have no time to react and no where to go. I can't switch to the right lane real fast like I normally do to avoid accidents like this because there was a car next to me, so the only thing I could do was mash on my brakes. It was at this moment that my rear end began to slide out towards the right lane. I realized this and began turning my wheel to the left, and basically slid around idiot's car. I then quickly shifted into 1st gear and pretty much near floored it to get out of the way in time from the Ryder truck that was headed right for the rear of my car. All in all pretty exciting morning, could have ended a lot worse. A trip to the hospital for me, and my car's trip to the scrap yard. But that wasn't the case this morning

I'm hungry now.

Oh, here is an in depth illustration of said events:

Teddy · 04-02-2009, 09:44 AM

That is exciting.

LeftNutOfGowd · 04-02-2009, 09:50 AM

I like the sketch you did el oh el

YoungGun · 04-02-2009, 10:20 AM

Ebrake dawg!!!

XeroX · 04-02-2009, 10:36 AM

What does this have to do with ABS?

Its awesome you didnt wrap man! Most likely it would have been your fault (since you would have rear ended him).

PS good drivers dont need ABS

***enkei2k*** · 04-02-2009, 10:46 AM

doriftoooooooooooooo

KiLLeR2001 · 04-02-2009, 10:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by XeroX

What does this have to do with ABS?

Its awesome you didnt wrap man! Most likely it would have been your fault (since you would have rear ended him).

PS good drivers dont need ABS

I said non-ABS, aka the skidding whipped my rear end out at an angle to avoid from smashing into this car. If I would of had ABS, I would have kept going straight, and most definitely smashed into this idiots car. And I would not have rear ended him, I would have pratically T-Boned his car because he was really that much into my lane.

XeroX · 04-02-2009, 11:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KiLLeR2001

I said non-ABS, aka the skidding whipped my rear end out at an angle to avoid from smashing into this car. If I would of had ABS, I would have kept going straight, and most definitely smashed into this idiots car. And I would not have rear ended him, I would have pratically T-Boned his car because he was really that much into my lane.

This thread just pooped on my head, i totally didnt read the subject right..lol

1slowS13 · 04-02-2009, 11:07 AM

What?!? Street drifting?!? Shame on you..

MandTPhotography · 04-02-2009, 11:08 AM

Quick thinking is FTW.

There's been many a time that some crazy ass driving maneuvers have saved me from certain doom, haha.

Farzam · 04-02-2009, 11:18 AM

Awesome that yer alive

Similar stuff happens to me on a weekly basis

the other day there was a car that cut me off...a mile up the road i change lanes to get in front of them and there was seriously at least 15ft between us (I could see the entire car AND THEN SOME out of my rear view), yet they honked at me, gave me the finger, and rode on my ass. At that point I notice it's 4 thuggish guys who each probably weigh triple what I do. "I saw a big animal on the road" so I slammed my brakes, and then turned into a McDonalds. They were for sure following me, so out of fear for my life I started doing hotlaps around the McDonalds and then cut back out onto the main road once I had enough space so that they could not figure out which direction I went.

crazy pplzzz

lflkajfj12123 · 04-02-2009, 11:24 AM

TLDR

cliffs?

theicecreamdan · 04-02-2009, 12:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KiLLeR2001

yes folks, the same left lane that my turbocharged 240sx is traveling in at an increasing speed. I basically have no time to react and no where to go. I can't switch to the right lane real fast like I normally do to avoid accidents like this because there was a car next to me.

When you're in a situation where you've had to avoid accidents in the past, why would you be driving like that? Just chill out and go with traffic. Your description and illustration indicate that there were a LOT of cars around. Maybe you should think about how unpredictable people are.

Still good that you didn't crash.

C-unit · 04-02-2009, 12:08 PM

You are lucky, good that you and your car didn't get hurt!!

Exactly same thing happen to me couple months ago, the only differences is that I couldn't do anything n I just T bone the car who is doing the U turn. Written off my DD but I walked out w/o a single scratch.

ravinaziankid · 04-02-2009, 12:54 PM

There are some weird roads in FL. Why would their be a median to make U-turns in the middle of nowhere?

Well, that guy was retarded to just spontaneously decide to go into the left to make a U, but even if there was a 300ft gap, you should always drive with the flow of cars around you so you can avoid being in these type of situations.

Persona · 04-02-2009, 02:43 PM

Did you used to park in the handicap parking outside of communications?

Used to see your car all the time walking to class, glad your ok.

*DALAZ_68* · 04-02-2009, 03:38 PM

so let me get this straight, you knew there was an idiot net to you, and another idiot infront of you, you decide to accelerate at one and never considered slowing down?

DCP94 · 04-02-2009, 03:46 PM

lol its funny how everybody keeps pointing out everything you did wrong...yea you shouldn't have downshifted but that's not illegal the guy shouldn't have cut 2 lanes to bust a bitch..so glad your ok man

KiLLeR2001 · 04-02-2009, 03:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by theicecreamdan

When you're in a situation where you've had to avoid accidents in the past, why would you be driving like that? Just chill out and go with traffic. Your description and illustration indicate that there were a LOT of cars around. Maybe you should think about how unpredictable people are.

Still good that you didn't crash.

Driving like what? I think I may have emphasized my acceleration a little too much. My car is only at stock 205hp and I downshifted and accelerated with the gas pedal about halfway down.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Persona

Did you used to park in the handicap parking outside of communications?

Used to see your car all the time walking to class, glad your ok.

Yes, I use that when I can't find parking elsewhere, which is usually always.

Quote:

Originally Posted by DALAZ_68

so let me get this straight, you knew there was an idiot net to you, and another idiot infront of you, you decide to accelerate at one and never considered slowing down?

No. I had no idea I was driving next to a moron that probably just got his license. I was minding my own business just enjoying my morning drive to work like I always do. And there was only one idiot, the one that went from the right lane all the way over to my lane to make a u-turn.

The only reason in my head that can explain why he did what he did is that he probably thought the person that was currently in the median would leave the spot and merge into traffic, so he could then take that cars spot, but when he noticed the car wasn't merging out, he had to stay parked behind it which was entirely in my lane.

los_inc · 04-02-2009, 03:58 PM

florida is filled with asshole drivers
consider you self lucky homie
-los

theicecreamdan · 04-02-2009, 05:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KiLLeR2001

Driving like what? I think I may have emphasized my acceleration a little too much. My car is only at stock 205hp and I downshifted and accelerated with the gas pedal about halfway down.

Downshifting and accelerating when you should be trying to get yourself into a position with escape paths.

You can blame everybody else, and you can be right, but that doesn't mean anything when you're dealing with insurance companies and hospitals.

If you've had close calls in situations like that before then you should know what to look out for.

I'm not saying you were driving like an idiot, but you could have avoided even being in a situation that required a fast, and lucky reaction.

KiLLeR2001 · 04-02-2009, 05:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by theicecreamdan

Downshifting and accelerating when you should be trying to get yourself into a position with escape paths.

You can blame everybody else, and you can be right, but that doesn't mean anything when you're dealing with insurance companies and hospitals.

If you've had close calls in situations like that before then you should know what to look out for.

I'm not saying you were driving like an idiot, but you could have avoided even being in a situation that required a fast, and lucky reaction.

I understand what you are saying but let me elaborate more on the time line of events that occurred... When I had downshifted to gain speed, the idiot had not yet cut out in front of me, he was still traveling in his right lane like any other normal person in that lane. He then drastically, without reason decides to cut over (without a signal) and then park his car in my lane.

I avoid situations like this all the time, but I'm always given a little more time to make the right decision, but in this case, he cut over out of nowhere and completely caught me off guard.

ericcastro · 04-02-2009, 06:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by theicecreamdan

why would you be driving like that? Just chill out and go with traffic. Your description and illustration indicate that there were a LOT of cars around. Maybe you should think about how unpredictable people are.

Quote:

Originally Posted by DALAZ_68

you decide to accelerate at one and never considered slowing down?

Quote:

Originally Posted by KiLLeR2001

I understand what you are saying but let me elaborate more on the time line of events that occurred... When I had downshifted to gain speed, the idiot had not yet cut out in front of me, he was still traveling in his right lane like any other normal person in that lane. He then drastically, without reason decides to cut over (without a signal) and then park his car in my lane.

I avoid situations like this all the time, but I'm always given a little more time to make the right decision, but in this case, he cut over out of nowhere and completely caught me off guard.

You make no fucking sense!!!

Somehow, the Idiot could come to a stop in your lane but you couldnt and had to skid all to hell and back to avoid him???

WTF??

Lets be honest.

You were going well over the speed limit.
Just because you have no cars in front of you doesnt mean you need to floor it.
Downshifting, even at half throttle in boost will rocket you forwards compared to traffic around you.
205 HP is not stock on an american 240sx.
having ABS, you would have been able to avoid or stop in time.
Everyone is confused how at full brake lock you were able to "steer" around the car. (with ABS, you can steer a bit BTW).

So the guy needed to take a left at the intersection and someone was there. He's second, so i imagine he's gonna wait his turn instead of go the next mile or blocks and do the Uturn. right or wrong, thats how Highway uturns work in every state I have visited.

and again.
The idiot in front of you was able to take his car from the speed of the posted speed limit/traffic, down to a complete stop without having to almost get into a multi car accident like yourself.

Fucking slow down in traffic Nick Hogan.!!!!

^yeah, completely inappropriate, but fuck it, Florida is Florida and I said it.

On a side note.
Im glad your Ok and avoided the accident.
Insurence would just total out your 240.
A modified engine in a bad accident could have resulted in a bit more trouble than you think.

No need to respond, I dont feel like multi quoting anyone to death today.

blasting_speed · 04-02-2009, 06:49 PM

He was probably expecting you to hit him to collect insurance. Shit is tough right now, and that's easy money.

I'm glad you're safe and everything went well for you. Now you can buy a round since you're still alive.

KiLLeR2001 · 04-02-2009, 07:01 PM

@ericcastro,

I was going 55mph, and the speed limit on the road I was on is 50mph. I would also like to inform you that my turbo seals (or something turbo related, not too sure yet) are shot and my turbo does not spool up like it should. I was just starting to accelerate when all this happened so I didn't gain much speed before I had to brake quickly.

I don't drive like a douche. I drive like the enthusiast that I am.

Thanks for the reply.

ericcastro · 04-02-2009, 07:06 PM

He still was able to get infront of you and slow to a stop without skidding......................

you should just send me your turbo, you prolly need a new one. i can send you stickers in exchange for you covering the shipping cost.
maybe some coupons too.

sound like a good deal??

KiLLeR2001 · 04-02-2009, 08:34 PM

Actually he was already in front of me, and he stopped very harshly as well, but forget about the technicalities. IM ALIVE!!!

undesiredshoe · 04-02-2009, 09:00 PM

I think you should be the next drift king

qwikspool · 04-02-2009, 09:14 PM

thats good you got out of it safe. i hate it when drivers do that type of driving.

jyon9689 · 04-02-2009, 09:49 PM

Wow, look at all of the preachers in here. You all seem so sure of what actually happened, it's almost like you were there. What, were you all carpooling in "the idiot" car that morning?

If times get tough, I'm sure you wiseguys could land great jobs as accident investigators.

04-02-2009, 09:19 AM	#1
KiLLeR2001 Post Whore! Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: オーランドフロリダ Posts: 7,955 Trader Rating: (46) Feedback Score: 46 reviews	[Near Accident] How My Non-ABS 240sx Survived Death Hello Zilvians. My trip to work was far from the norm this lovely morning. I would like to start off by saying thanks to God for a chain of events that was executed perfectly in such a way that left me and my car unharmed. This is my car... A 1990 240sx Hatchback w/ SR20DET. Ok now for the story... I'll try to make this short because I'm at work right now. About 15 minutes into my trip on the way to work a retarded driver I will forever deem as "the idiot". I was heading westbound on a 2 lane road. I was in the left lane. There were cars behind me as well as cars to the side of me in the right lane, including the idiot. However, to the front of me there wasn't another car for a good 300ft or so. So naturally, I try to close to gap by down shifting and letting the turbocharger take effect. It was at this time, the idiot decides to get over from the right lane to make a u-turn through the median (with no turn signal, naturally), all as my car is gaining speed. The idiot realizes that another car is in the median waiting to perform a u-turn as well but that car was stopped in the median because of oncoming traffic in the other direction. So the idiot decides to park his car basically in its entirety in the left lane; yes folks, the same left lane that my turbocharged 240sx is traveling in at an increasing speed. I basically have no time to react and no where to go. I can't switch to the right lane real fast like I normally do to avoid accidents like this because there was a car next to me, so the only thing I could do was mash on my brakes. It was at this moment that my rear end began to slide out towards the right lane. I realized this and began turning my wheel to the left, and basically slid around idiot's car. I then quickly shifted into 1st gear and pretty much near floored it to get out of the way in time from the Ryder truck that was headed right for the rear of my car. All in all pretty exciting morning, could have ended a lot worse. A trip to the hospital for me, and my car's trip to the scrap yard. But that wasn't the case this morning I'm hungry now. Oh, here is an in depth illustration of said events: __________________

04-02-2009, 09:44 AM	#2
Teddy Post Whore! Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: AutoFactory REALIZE Posts: 5,213 Trader Rating: (44) Feedback Score: 44 reviews	That is exciting. __________________ www.realize-jp.net

04-02-2009, 09:50 AM	#3
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04-02-2009, 10:46 AM	#6
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04-02-2009, 11:18 AM	#11
Farzam Post Whore! Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Los Angeles / Raleigh, NC Age: 31 Posts: 5,144 Trader Rating: (1) Feedback Score: 1 reviews	Awesome that yer alive Similar stuff happens to me on a weekly basis the other day there was a car that cut me off...a mile up the road i change lanes to get in front of them and there was seriously at least 15ft between us (I could see the entire car AND THEN SOME out of my rear view), yet they honked at me, gave me the finger, and rode on my ass. At that point I notice it's 4 thuggish guys who each probably weigh triple what I do. "I saw a big animal on the road" so I slammed my brakes, and then turned into a McDonalds. They were for sure following me, so out of fear for my life I started doing hotlaps around the McDonalds and then cut back out onto the main road once I had enough space so that they could not figure out which direction I went. crazy pplzzz __________________ loading HATERS.....99% ███████████████]

04-02-2009, 10:20 AM	#4
YoungGun Post Whore! Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: 818-951 SoCal Posts: 3,961 Trader Rating: (23) Feedback Score: 23 reviews	Ebrake dawg!!!

04-02-2009, 10:36 AM	#5
XeroX Zilvia Junkie Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Sacramento, CA Age: 37 Posts: 307 Trader Rating: (2) Feedback Score: 2 reviews	What does this have to do with ABS? Its awesome you didnt wrap man! Most likely it would have been your fault (since you would have rear ended him). PS good drivers dont need ABS

04-02-2009, 11:07 AM	#9
1slowS13 Zilvia Junkie Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Las Vegas, NV Age: 32 Posts: 466 Trader Rating: (6) Feedback Score: 6 reviews	What?!? Street drifting?!? Shame on you..

04-02-2009, 11:08 AM	#10
MandTPhotography Zilvia Addict Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Wilmington, NC Posts: 801 Trader Rating: (2) Feedback Score: 2 reviews	Quick thinking is FTW. There's been many a time that some crazy ass driving maneuvers have saved me from certain doom, haha.

04-02-2009, 11:24 AM	#12
lflkajfj12123 Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: 　　　　　　　　 Posts: 8,480 Trader Rating: (20) Feedback Score: 20 reviews	TLDR cliffs?

04-02-2009, 12:08 PM	#14
C-unit Nissanaholic! Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Vancouver, Hongkong. Age: 36 Posts: 1,808 Trader Rating: (7) Feedback Score: 7 reviews	You are lucky, good that you and your car didn't get hurt!! Exactly same thing happen to me couple months ago, the only differences is that I couldn't do anything n I just T bone the car who is doing the U turn. Written off my DD but I walked out w/o a single scratch.

04-02-2009, 12:54 PM	#15
ravinaziankid Zilvia Junkie Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: NYC Age: 38 Posts: 394 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	There are some weird roads in FL. Why would their be a median to make U-turns in the middle of nowhere? Well, that guy was retarded to just spontaneously decide to go into the left to make a U, but even if there was a 300ft gap, you should always drive with the flow of cars around you so you can avoid being in these type of situations.

04-02-2009, 02:43 PM	#16
Persona Zilvia Addict Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Salt Lake City, UT Posts: 917 Trader Rating: (2) Feedback Score: 2 reviews	Did you used to park in the handicap parking outside of communications? Used to see your car all the time walking to class, glad your ok. __________________

04-02-2009, 03:38 PM	#17
DALAZ_68 not giving a fuck Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Los angeles Age: 35 Posts: 15,080 Trader Rating: (104) Feedback Score: 104 reviews	so let me get this straight, you knew there was an idiot net to you, and another idiot infront of you, you decide to accelerate at one and never considered slowing down? __________________ LOL 240... whats better than 1? 5 1's ...lol PSN & XBL GT : Wh0pp3r68 CLUB LEXUS : Wh0pp3r

04-02-2009, 03:46 PM	#18
DCP94 Zilvia Member Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Richmond Age: 32 Posts: 228 Trader Rating: (6) Feedback Score: 6 reviews	lol its funny how everybody keeps pointing out everything you did wrong...yea you shouldn't have downshifted but that's not illegal the guy shouldn't have cut 2 lanes to bust a bitch..so glad your ok man

04-02-2009, 03:58 PM	#20
los_inc Zilvia Addict Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: New Joisey Bro. Age: 37 Posts: 826 Trader Rating: (15) Feedback Score: 15 reviews	florida is filled with asshole drivers consider you self lucky homie -los __________________

04-02-2009, 06:49 PM	#24
blasting_speed Post Whore! Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Treno di mezzanotte di amore Posts: 2,593 Trader Rating: (8) Feedback Score: 8 reviews	He was probably expecting you to hit him to collect insurance. Shit is tough right now, and that's easy money. I'm glad you're safe and everything went well for you. Now you can buy a round since you're still alive. __________________

04-02-2009, 07:01 PM	#25
KiLLeR2001 Post Whore! Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: オーランドフロリダ Posts: 7,955 Trader Rating: (46) Feedback Score: 46 reviews	@ericcastro, I was going 55mph, and the speed limit on the road I was on is 50mph. I would also like to inform you that my turbo seals (or something turbo related, not too sure yet) are shot and my turbo does not spool up like it should. I was just starting to accelerate when all this happened so I didn't gain much speed before I had to brake quickly. I don't drive like a douche. I drive like the enthusiast that I am. Thanks for the reply. __________________

04-02-2009, 08:34 PM	#27
KiLLeR2001 Post Whore! Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: オーランドフロリダ Posts: 7,955 Trader Rating: (46) Feedback Score: 46 reviews	Actually he was already in front of me, and he stopped very harshly as well, but forget about the technicalities. IM ALIVE!!! __________________

04-02-2009, 09:00 PM	#28
undesiredshoe Zilvia Addict Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Wisco Age: 32 Posts: 787 Trader Rating: (2) Feedback Score: 2 reviews	I think you should be the next drift king __________________ My shoe is undesired

04-02-2009, 09:14 PM	#29
qwikspool Nissanaholic! Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Murrieta, CA Posts: 1,912 Trader Rating: (6) Feedback Score: 6 reviews	thats good you got out of it safe. i hate it when drivers do that type of driving.

04-02-2009, 09:49 PM	#30
jyon9689 Leaky Injector Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Lexington, KY Age: 31 Posts: 53 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Wow, look at all of the preachers in here. You all seem so sure of what actually happened, it's almost like you were there. What, were you all carpooling in "the idiot" car that morning? If times get tough, I'm sure you wiseguys could land great jobs as accident investigators.

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