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Old 10-15-2007, 03:34 AM   #31
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If places like SP Engineering in CA and Sound Performance of IL can't even pay the employees what they used to, How would a location like this do it. People are just flat out broke these days. And the market gets worse. On July 1st of this year, Mackin Industries, for 1 example, raised prices on everything. Price of metal is nuts. And that reflects everywhere.
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A "High End" shop trying to cater to 240sx drivers?



Oh wait.

You were serious?

Stick to building Magazine Cars. There aren't many of that caliber on Zilvia, and likely won't be.
trust me ask JOHN at rpsport, when I was parteners with him.

Its a pain in the ass

you guys are all cheap bastards who like to buy chinease parts 10 times before getting the good shit haha
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I chill all the time at the High End Ventura shop the original shop. They do build sick ass show cars. would love to see them do the track. I have talked to the VP which is brian and he owns the white evo. the Fd is supposed to be for D1 next year but we will see. The guys from High end 2 of them i known since high school and the the other i've known for like 6 yrs. great bunch of guys and can get anything rare jdm stuff. And as far as the 240 seen they have 3 clean ass s13 hatches.
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Old 10-15-2007, 10:57 AM   #34
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to hell with you west costers trying to hog all the shit! let us east costers live allitle. put it in the tri state. im dying for a place i can buy coilovers, fule pupm, fpr, and other misc parts and not have to wait 3 weeks to get em! i would love a shop i can go down with a shopping cart or something and pick all this stuff up and pay for it their
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Old 10-15-2007, 11:09 AM   #35
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Mixed reviews for everything, The guys on the east coast want it, everyone else says eh may or may not work.....

Lets think outside of the box and look at the bigger picture, it isnt a shop that is just for 240s right?

If thats the case then yes you are more than likely going to have a following....

Remember the guys who drop cash are the evo/sti owners on the east coast.....

Not to take any credit away from the 240 guys but what if this shop carried tie rods and replacement parts for the drifters, and had them in stock.....

Drift demos at E-town all of a sudden after the events or before the events you may have all the drifters come by just to see if they can buy parts "just in case" something does happen....

Why not have an extra set and a place that you can goto just in case.....

Now lets rephrase this and everyone think outside the 240sx community......

Evos, Stis, s2ks, VIP tuning etc...

all of a sudden your market looks a lot bigger and better...

If you want something to market for the 240 owners just get some cheap, wacky crazy jdm shyt

Like bubble shift knobs, those bape shifter boots, hello kitty stuff, replacement parts

Now all of a sudden you have a 240 market.....


Build it and reep the rewards, as long as its marketed correctly you shouldnt have issues finding work....

You guys dont realise how many crazy cars are actually on the east coast....

Just look at the New Image cars, or the regiment Zero cars... or the skylines running around the east coast.....

If theres a place to goto, even if its just a spot to chill, if you guys play your cards right you'll generate business...

People will buy anything as long as its priced accordingly, and they feel like they got a deal and are happy with the customer service....
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Old 10-15-2007, 11:40 AM   #36
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High End, i understand you were trying to open a shop in Virginia Beach before what happened to your buddy. I just moved down here to the Virginia Beach area a month ago for school and i was under the impression that there was a huge "tuner" scene, but it isn't nearly as big as it is up in Northern Virginia, where I'm from.

Your comparing the east coast ppl with the west coast people. The west coast has been exposed to the scene longer. The age group is larger. The older they are, the more money they are able to put in. I'm sure you notice the guys that do spend the big bucks at your shop in CA are in their mid 20s and 30s correct? In northern VA, the guys who CAN spend that kind of money go for BMWs, Benz, Lexus, Infiniti etc etc, and the older guys that love cars buy Ferrari, Austin Martin, Porsche, etc etc. They aren't part of the scene. Most of the ppl who are part of the FnF generation (mildstone of when import scene bloomed) are in their early 20s right now. I'd say give it a few years. Northern VA is a very wealthy area (HS kids getting Z06s, BMWs, etc etc as first cars), I would consider waiting a few years before opening a shop with a staus of High End if your looking for big buck spenders. Over the years i'm seeing more and more nice show and go style cars like the ones you guys make, in northern VA. The trend will continue to grow. Give it some time.

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You guys dont realise how many crazy cars are actually on the east coast....

Just look at the New Image cars, or the regiment Zero cars... or the skylines running around the east coast.....
Regiment zero, Emotion, Tekademiks, whatever team- count how many people. Do you think those few people are enough for a business to generate profit? A business' purpose is profit.

We are still at an infant stage compared to Cali.
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We need an east coast Super Autobacs. Most of us can't afford the parts we really want but it would be cool to have a used depot like cali does. East Coast does need a shop of that caliber aswell. When I lived in San Diego it was really nice to go into a shop that actually had the parts you wanted and everything was well lit and displayed well. I think dependant on the location of the shop would tell how well it would do. What we really need a super store or a japanese middle man that would ship here in decent time and won't rape us on shipping. My boy wanted to order a supermade wing. The wing was 250... shipping was 180... damn.. thats outta control.. i know you gotta pay to play but damn.. some of us are not baller status. You should pole this question to get a better idea I think.
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Old 10-15-2007, 12:03 PM   #38
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I have lived in florida for 8 years before moving to the west coast, due to the military. I can say that if the parts High End will provide will be uber expensive, then the only way they would make money is to be in a big city. I have friends who had a shop running for a couple of years, but ended up closing due to no one could afford the shit they carried (MPH AutoMod). If I were you, I would not only offer the top of the line parts, but also like a medium brand parts that will appeal to those who just need a part for a specific job i.e strut bars, certain suspension components. Granted all parts are not created equal, some people like myself would rather have a cheaper, but efficient parts that cost 40% less than another one would. However, I think if you do decide to open a shop on the East coast, do it in a big city i.e ATL, Miami. Good Luck.
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ive had bad experience with high end, and i have had friends who have bad experiences as well.. being lied to about prices... giving me the wrong product.

I had a quote on a pair of strut bars that suddenly got bumped 50 bucks more than when i asked in my last visit. what kind of shit is that.

and they say they are going to build track cars, so far i havent seen any.
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I have lived in florida for 8 years before moving to the west coast, due to the military. I can say that if the parts High End will provide will be uber expensive, then the only way they would make money is to be in a big city. I have friends who had a shop running for a couple of years, but ended up closing due to no one could afford the shit they carried (MPH AutoMod). If I were you, I would not only offer the top of the line parts, but also like a medium brand parts that will appeal to those who just need a part for a specific job i.e strut bars, certain suspension components. Granted all parts are not created equal, some people like myself would rather have a cheaper, but efficient parts that cost 40% less than another one would. However, I think if you do decide to open a shop on the East coast, do it in a big city i.e ATL, Miami. Good Luck.
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from what i've seen...

tri state 240 crowd would not support such a shop

most people are either
1. car is mostly stock
2. best bang for the buck (internet gb shoppers)
3. brand x crappy part pickers
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the Fd is supposed to be for D1 next year but we will see.
the FD will never see the track..ben already said no
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Old 10-15-2007, 12:29 PM   #43
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that's now but you remember ross when it first came out that brian said it was lol. me and you both said we would love to see it hit the track but will never happen
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Old 10-15-2007, 05:20 PM   #44
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The reason cali can support a shop like that is because of all of the people in a small area. There is no area on the east coast with that many people, except for NYC.

ATL would not support a shop like that. There arent enough people here to buy nice parts. You would probably break even at most. I wish there were a shop like that here though.

Most 240 people here can't even afford sportmax wheels.

There alot of big spenders in texas, it seems.

Honestly you guys should just build up a large web presence. The overhead is less and you can sell more.
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best bet is fla, if u sell other exotic car parts for euros i.e. ferrari porshe etc.. ull be str8888 here.
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No. I foresee all this import/drift/tune/whatever fad trailing off... you'll get a following, a buncha high school kids window shopping wanting to get discounts. Does your west coast shop get alot of internet/phone orders from the east coast, if so, where are these orders coming from? Maybe that's a good place to start.
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Old 10-15-2007, 10:07 PM   #47
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all i have to say is.....that G35 looks pretty nice!! =)
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I would love to run a shop like that. +1 for Florida.
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:::MaxStyle::: Mackin Raised there prices because Rays overall hiked there price up on all items they sale. Apsec and other shops gave out heads up long before the price hike occurred.

It wasn't just mackin doing because they wanted.

Regardless IMO until you have a car(s) that does track/show/street. I'm not listening. DSG is a prime example of what happens with good exposure. East coast shop, did profound build ups of the cars, wanted feedback, and continued with the build. They got the cover of SCC. Mazworx and Hybrid performance, those shops are blowing away the doors on what was previously thought impossible on times and power levels with SR/KA.

Steve shadows is socal, but he is constantly making his car faster in the 1/4 mile.


I'm just blabbing, but pretty much you gotta do a build up on a forum to gain more recognition. Anyone can cut a check and have aero,wheels,paint, and engine put together and look great. Whose to say that you can/will/are capable of providing the same parameters, taste and desire to give the customer the same treatment as your 'High End' cars.
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i just moved to the east coast and the OP is right, gay emo posers everywhere, and its their fault only that a high end shop cant survive
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I think all those High End cars are showcars. thats why that place makes money. becauase so many people in So Cal buy parts to make their car LOOK dope and fast and like they drift but they dont. All of those people with showcars live in Cali. Look at all the huge major shows that happen out here. Almost too many to name hence the abundance of showcars and people buying name brand just because and making lame ass fake jgtc cars.
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negatory.
You more than likely wont make enough business in order to maintain the overhead.
I dont know about other cities, but of the many in GA/ATL, ppl dont spend for shit. Same goes for me as well.
I like to DIY as much as possible, personal thing. I can't trust a shop with my car.

other than that..
like others said, there are alot of VIP/DUB posers in the eastcoast.. cater to them. S-chassis owners are on the majority, cheap, poor, and cheap.
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I think a Super Duper JDM Shop would just be too hard to keep business over on the east coast.

As much as I'd love to see one up here in Michigan (I know it's not the east coast) there just wouldn't be enough business. The closest shop to a Super Duper JDM Shop in Michigan was Tuning Factory, Inc., formerly known as Godspeed. Rumor has it that they closed shop.

Most people around here are all about big American V8's that make single passes down the 1/4. There's an overabundance of Mustangs where I live. I probably see one every 10 seconds on the road.

The only car scene around here that I know of is down in Toledo, Ohio. That scene has everything; American muscle to Harley's, 10 sec. tuners to ricers to crotch rockets. So I think a shop around here would have to be able cater to everyone's needs, which is just about impossible.
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No offense, but no one is willing to buy parts from a "show car" shop.

Your cars look great, but it says a lot when none of your cars even race.

I've seen a lot of your cars rocking "high-end" items, but I've never seen any of your cars anywhere other than a trailer or at a car show.
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I'm just blabbing, but pretty much you gotta do a build up on a forum to gain more recognition. Anyone can cut a check and have aero,wheels,paint, and engine put together and look great. Whose to say that you can/will/are capable of providing the same parameters, taste and desire to give the customer the same treatment as your 'High End' cars.
Exactly what I am trying to say. A lot more companies with higher exposure levels such as Logan from Aspec actually take time to go to track events, etc.
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It won't work.

Maybe if you're opening the shop for the love of the industry. But if you're looking to make money, you better choose something else.

I suggest you give this dream up.
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If you cater to porsches, f-cars, and lambos, you can survive, because those people have money to blow.

Japanese car owners usually do not.
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I saw that shop in super street because the owner of that burgandy color rx7 got featured. Nice layout. It would be nice to have something like that in VA. I like alot of the higher end jdm stuff, but just not really in my budget. But if they got 2nd hand stuff too, I'm sure that would do good aswell.
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i support it open it in fairfax va you would have a lot of good business mclean area will you guys carry miata parts? like kg works and beatrush
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Yes it would most likely work... but I don't think it would really be catering to 240sx tuners. Most 240 owners are on a tight budget and go for parts that are cheap, but also practical that they can use on the track and could care less about buying expensive brand name parts.

On a side note, I hate hearing about this posing bullshit... just because people buy brand name parts and don't track their car does not mean they are a poser. They are just improving their cars performance/looks on a different budget than yourself and they want to personalize their car and make it unique. We all modify our cars for different reasons, just understand that modifying a car does not mean you have to take it to a track. Get over yourselves. By the way... AutoConcept Elite FTW!
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