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5pecialist · 06-25-2010, 08:26 AM

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Originally Posted by thenooblet

get an is300, less weight=better

G35 & IS300 are about the same weight

G35 has more horses, too, so the extra few pounds are cancelled out.

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Originally Posted by s14_rebirth

id go is fersure. g35 sounds way too heavy

See above comment...

DenkiMan! · 06-25-2010, 03:17 PM

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Originally Posted by keeeban

Sorry, Evos aren't RWD.

(mr.t voice) i kno they arent rwd fool! i was trying to pull a funny. i do hope that u kno they did convert it and it is possible although expensive to use them for drifting.

theres currently a wrx and an evo x in japan's D1 competition driven by Naoto Suenaga and Nobushige Kumakubo respectively

djcobra · 06-25-2010, 04:22 PM

Love that GS (Aristo) going sideways!

Also a proud owner of a GS 430

raz0rbladez909 · 06-25-2010, 06:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DenkiMan!

(mr.t voice) i kno they arent rwd fool! i was trying to pull a funny. i do hope that u kno they did convert it and it is possible although expensive to use them for drifting.

theres currently a wrx and an evo x in japan's D1 competition driven by Naoto Suenaga and Nobushige Kumakubo respectively

why would you want to ruin an EVO/ STI by converting it to rwd? yes I get the whole drift thing in japan, where it is done by shops that have the money to do so, but it seems like a pointless way to spend more money to fuck up an awesome handling car. But to get back on topic, I normally wouldn't say this but why not try an American car, the G8 is pretty damn fast, and can take whatever you throw at it, not to mention can probably be had without the "JDM" markup on parts and actual purchase price, and the gas mileage is surprisingly good for a v8.

Mi Beardo es Loco · 06-25-2010, 07:15 PM

someone at q45.org did a rb25 tranny swap with the vh45 so it's legal. It's an older car and a tranny swap would be necessary, two of which you said you didn't want, but I thought it was pretty cool.

YouTube - 1994 Q45 5 speed around town

LoneStarSilvia · 06-26-2010, 12:38 PM

IS3's aren't bad at all for drifting. I completely enjoyed mine and I was super surprised at how easy it was to get loose and keep control. It was nearly as easy as my S14 that had a 2 way, but ofcourse the IS3 is quite underpowered. Mine had full exhaust, headers, sway bars and coilovers. Ebrake, clutch kick, ebrake, clutch kick, ebrake, clutch kick. Shit was nuts! I miss the comfy DD lifestyle it gave me too. The torsen LSD was surprisingly pretty kick ass.

2nd day I owned it haha.

Plus they look pretty damn good when done up right.

There's a ton of better examples of what you can do with those.

DenkiMan! · 06-26-2010, 02:11 PM

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Originally Posted by raz0rbladez909

why would you want to ruin an EVO/ STI by converting it to rwd? yes I get the whole drift thing in japan, where it is done by shops that have the money to do so, but it seems like a pointless way to spend more money to fuck up an awesome handling car. But to get back on topic, I normally wouldn't say this but why not try an American car, the G8 is pretty damn fast, and can take whatever you throw at it, not to mention can probably be had without the "JDM" markup on parts and actual purchase price, and the gas mileage is surprisingly good for a v8.

lol ok i wasnt quite being serious about having an evo or a sti as a realistic option as a 4 door drift car haha but if you want to buy a brand new $40,000 car to start drifting in then be my guest. lol you might have more fun doing a ridiculous swap with more aftermarket support

and the g8 gets horrible gas mileage...theres no other reasonably priced american 4 door rwd 5/6 speed that i can think of. which is why i wud never go american in that regard

Slidin' Sam · 06-26-2010, 06:43 PM

^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

the other big thing to consider is aftermarket support/availability of parts too! Many people would love to get out of s-chassis, but for some, it's just not economical to do so. I know I have somehow invested/acquired too much to just step away from my s-chassis and build something new that I have NO parts for.

To the OP: Your best bet may just be to wait a few more years until c33's are easy to import and then just swap everything from your s-chassis into one of those and have a kick-ass 4dr!

93superHICAS · 06-27-2010, 11:13 AM

el es fo hundrud

CAR SPOTLIGHT>> THE LS MISSILE - Speedhunters

keeeban · 06-27-2010, 02:43 PM

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Originally Posted by 93superHICAS

el es fo hundrud

CAR SPOTLIGHT>> THE LS MISSILE - Speedhunters

Looks like the rear got raped.

tryangle · 06-27-2010, 03:11 PM

Just an option, Lincoln LS, they do come in 5speed and have a decent aftermarket and come with V8s too.
EDIT: the hood and front fenders are aluminum also.

liv2drift045 · 06-28-2010, 03:30 AM

THat shit would be HARD

maplejesse · 06-28-2010, 04:06 AM

sup yall

????????? - D1 Driver Inose Drifitng his 1200PS (Max Output) JZX110 - ???-??? ???

sedans

silviaguy240 · 06-28-2010, 11:18 AM

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Originally Posted by DenkiMan!

and the g8 gets horrible gas mileage...theres no other reasonably priced american 4 door rwd 5/6 speed that i can think of. which is why i wud never go american in that regard

what? the G8 GXP's 6 speed have the same gear ratios as corvette's/gto's which have a t56 and get like 26-30mpg's on the highway.

raz0rbladez909 · 06-28-2010, 12:34 PM

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Originally Posted by silviaguy240

what? the G8 GXP's 6 speed have the same gear ratios as corvette's/gto's which have a t56 and get like 26-30mpg's on the highway.

Thats what I thought too, besides who's worried about gas mileage in their "drift daily driver"?

cantdrift11 · 06-28-2010, 12:46 PM

does this change your mind about the SXE10.....

DenkiMan! · 06-28-2010, 03:50 PM

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Originally Posted by silviaguy240

what? The g8 gxp's 6 speed have the same gear ratios as corvette's/gto's which have a t56 and get like 26-30mpg's on the highway.

im not sure how thats supposed to give the car the same gas mileage since the motor is different. here ill give u some links that tell the g8's mpg...its not pretty

Pontiac prices G8 GXP just under $40,000

Review: 2009 Pontiac G8 GXP | The Truth About Cars

Review: 2009 Pontiac G8 GXP — Autoblog

http://www.edmunds.com/pontiac/g8/2009/testdrive.html

its a huge gas guzzler, in fact its worse than the LS3 Corvette lol

raz0rbladez909 · 06-29-2010, 06:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DenkiMan!

im not sure how thats supposed to give the car the same gas mileage since the motor is different. here ill give u some links that tell the g8's mpg...its not pretty

Pontiac prices G8 GXP just under $40,000

Review: 2009 Pontiac G8 GXP | The Truth About Cars

Review: 2009 Pontiac G8 GXP — Autoblog

2009 Pontiac G8 GXP Test Drive on Edmunds.com

its a huge gas guzzler, in fact its worse than the LS3 Corvette lol

the car is almost 1000 lbs heavier than a corvette as well what's your point?
Side-by-Side Comparison
that should be the only website you really need to check the fuel economy, and if you compare it to the gs/ls you're getting wayyyyyy more performance for only slightly worse city mpg highway mpg is rated at 24 mpg where as those lexus's are 21 at best? i still don't get the whole worrying about gas mileage if you're comparing it to just as heavy lexus's with way less power/performance for the buck

DenkiMan! · 06-29-2010, 08:16 PM

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Originally Posted by raz0rbladez909

the car is almost 1000 lbs heavier than a corvette as well what's your point?
Side-by-Side Comparison
that should be the only website you really need to check the fuel economy, and if you compare it to the gs/ls you're getting wayyyyyy more performance for only slightly worse city mpg highway mpg is rated at 24 mpg where as those lexus's are 21 at best? i still don't get the whole worrying about gas mileage if you're comparing it to just as heavy lexus's with way less power/performance for the buck

well played sir, i will use that site from now on.

but i never said i was comparing it to any lexus at all. i was just zeroing in on the fact that you suggested a G8 for drifting. i mean also thats different viewpoints. if you think 13mpg is only slightly worse then i wont argue that, thats what you think and i respect that...but personally i think thats a notable difference. i just dont think a G8 is a car to start drifting in. and of course your getting way more performance, its a 6.0L lol compared to like a 3.0L. a IS300 with a 1JZ or 2JZ swap even will run you less than dumping $40k into a brand new car if you REALLY want a 4 door drift car and it would fair pretty well. i think at least, correct me if im wrong.

raz0rbladez909 · 06-29-2010, 09:41 PM

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Originally Posted by DenkiMan!

well played sir, i will use that site from now on.

but i never said i was comparing it to any lexus at all. i was just zeroing in on the fact that you suggested a G8 for drifting. i mean also thats different viewpoints. if you think 13mpg is only slightly worse then i wont argue that, thats what you think and i respect that...but personally i think thats a notable difference. i just dont think a G8 is a car to start drifting in. and of course your getting way more performance, its a 6.0L lol compared to like a 3.0L. a IS300 with a 1JZ or 2JZ swap even will run you less than dumping $40k into a brand new car if you REALLY want a 4 door drift car and it would fair pretty well. i think at least, correct me if im wrong.

well it wasn't intended to compare the g8 to the IS300, i actually think the IS300 is one of the better cars suggested so far, it was more along the lines of the hefty GS's and LS's that everyone keeps suggesting as drift cars, and used g8's can be had for quite a bit less than 40k i was thinking more along the lines of what the thread starter said he wanted something that didn't have to have a swap to be worthwhile

TougeLove · 06-29-2010, 10:02 PM

Anyone consider doing the toyota mark II conversion? i was looking at maybe an older camry or ls400. they seem to be slightly similar.

DenkiMan! · 06-29-2010, 10:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by raz0rbladez909

well it wasn't intended to compare the g8 to the IS300, i actually think the IS300 is one of the better cars suggested so far, it was more along the lines of the hefty GS's and LS's that everyone keeps suggesting as drift cars, and used g8's can be had for quite a bit less than 40k i was thinking more along the lines of what the thread starter said he wanted something that didn't have to have a swap to be worthwhile

yea i understand that. and its proving to be a difficult task. so far ppl have only come up with the IS/GS/LS...each will be pricey to fortify as drift cars

G8's a possibility, cressida, lol RX-8 is technically a 4 door, all the others are in Japan really

raz0rbladez909 · 06-29-2010, 11:52 PM

i guess to throw in some others in the mix that we do have over here, the infiniti Q45, J30, M35, Bmw 3 series sedans, 5 series, i guess the rx8 is a mix but i'd classify it as more of a coupe, if you're a baller the is-f but only comes auto, ugh i guess we need more performance sedans

turtl631 · 06-30-2010, 07:56 PM

E36 and E46 sedans are plentiful, pretty cheap, and the parts that matter are reliable. E36 M3 sedans are under 10k with higher miles, and I'm not sure about the E46s off hand but I'd imagine you can find some sedans for pretty cheap, although no E46 M3 sedan exists. Can't argue with a nice NA straight 6, they're smooth and make okay power. Electronics will break, but if this is gonna be a drift car too I doubt you care.

silviaguy240 · 06-30-2010, 11:10 PM

plus the rears chassis are weak. some substantial bracing is needed if you dont want to tear the rear half of the car in two.

soreballz · 07-01-2010, 07:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DenkiMan!

RX-8 is technically a 4 door, all the others are in Japan really

Regardless of it's number of doors; the RX-8 is still a coupe, so that's out.

driftsilvias13 · 09-09-2010, 01:02 PM

Okay so for sure I am getting another car and am considering the is300 5spd.
I'd figure I slap on a 2way and some suspension. Does anyone make a knuckle kit for this car yet?
My biggest fear is that coming from an S-chassis, I wont get used to the steering of the is300.

I really like the way this one looks

VIPDRFT · 09-09-2010, 01:16 PM

Yes, there are a couple companies that do.

GP Sports Super Knuckle Angle Kit Toyota

C-ONE Quick Steering Knuckle

These ones below are for the JZX chassis, but I'm sure they could/would make some for the IS.

Hey Man! Products
http://www.rhdjapan.com/hey-man-prod...knuckles-62025

Billspeer
http://csgarage.wordpress.com/2010/0...mate-knuckles/
http://teamblink.wordpress.com/2010/...100-billspeer/

franklin93zx · 09-09-2010, 02:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 5pecialist

G35, M35, J30

/thread

j30? J Fucking 30?! that looks like it was shitted out by man bear pig then introduced to infiniti and for some dumb reason put out for the public to purchase.

travisty_ · 09-10-2010, 08:15 PM

I support the idea of an is300, the steering shouldn't be much of an issue at all to get used to.

Eye candy:

One of my favorite sedans.

06-25-2010, 04:22 PM	#63
djcobra Zilvia Junkie Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Calgary Age: 42 Posts: 306 Trader Rating: (1) Feedback Score: 1 reviews	Love that GS (Aristo) going sideways! Also a proud owner of a GS 430 __________________ S14 326 whp, 311 tq @ 15 psi HKS F-CON V-PRO

06-26-2010, 12:38 PM	#66
LoneStarSilvia Zilvia FREAK! Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Okinawa--->Arizona Age: 33 Posts: 1,509 Trader Rating: (5) Feedback Score: 5 reviews	IS3's aren't bad at all for drifting. I completely enjoyed mine and I was super surprised at how easy it was to get loose and keep control. It was nearly as easy as my S14 that had a 2 way, but ofcourse the IS3 is quite underpowered. Mine had full exhaust, headers, sway bars and coilovers. Ebrake, clutch kick, ebrake, clutch kick, ebrake, clutch kick. Shit was nuts! I miss the comfy DD lifestyle it gave me too. The torsen LSD was surprisingly pretty kick ass. 2nd day I owned it haha. Plus they look pretty damn good when done up right. There's a ton of better examples of what you can do with those. __________________

06-26-2010, 06:43 PM	#68
Slidin' Sam Zilvia Addict Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Japan Posts: 729 Trader Rating: (9) Feedback Score: 9 reviews	^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ the other big thing to consider is aftermarket support/availability of parts too! Many people would love to get out of s-chassis, but for some, it's just not economical to do so. I know I have somehow invested/acquired too much to just step away from my s-chassis and build something new that I have NO parts for. To the OP: Your best bet may just be to wait a few more years until c33's are easy to import and then just swap everything from your s-chassis into one of those and have a kick-ass 4dr! __________________

06-27-2010, 11:13 AM	#69
93superHICAS Zilvia Member Join Date: May 2006 Location: houston texas Posts: 223 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	el es fo hundrud CAR SPOTLIGHT>> THE LS MISSILE - Speedhunters __________________ when life gets hard, i pick up the card with the smiley face

06-28-2010, 03:30 AM	#72
liv2drift045 Zilvia FREAK! Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Chicagoland Age: 38 Posts: 1,483 Trader Rating: (7) Rides Gallery: liv2drift045 Feedback Score: 7 reviews	THat shit would be HARD __________________ StreetSliders.Blogspot.com

06-27-2010, 03:11 PM	#71
tryangle Zilvia Member Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: chesapeake Posts: 217 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Just an option, Lincoln LS, they do come in 5speed and have a decent aftermarket and come with V8s too. EDIT: the hood and front fenders are aluminum also.

06-28-2010, 04:06 AM	#73
maplejesse Zilvia Junkie Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Texas Age: 28 Posts: 551 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	sup yall ????????? - D1 Driver Inose Drifitng his 1200PS (Max Output) JZX110 - ???-??? ??? sedans

06-28-2010, 12:46 PM	#76
cantdrift11 Leaky Injector Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: los angeles Posts: 144 Trader Rating: (4) Feedback Score: 4 reviews	does this change your mind about the SXE10.....

06-29-2010, 10:02 PM	#81
TougeLove Zilvia Addict Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: so cal Age: 37 Posts: 846 Trader Rating: (5) Feedback Score: 5 reviews	Anyone consider doing the toyota mark II conversion? i was looking at maybe an older camry or ls400. they seem to be slightly similar.

06-30-2010, 07:56 PM	#84
turtl631 Zilvia Addict Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Milwaukee WI Posts: 900 Trader Rating: (3) Feedback Score: 3 reviews	E36 and E46 sedans are plentiful, pretty cheap, and the parts that matter are reliable. E36 M3 sedans are under 10k with higher miles, and I'm not sure about the E46s off hand but I'd imagine you can find some sedans for pretty cheap, although no E46 M3 sedan exists. Can't argue with a nice NA straight 6, they're smooth and make okay power. Electronics will break, but if this is gonna be a drift car too I doubt you care.

06-30-2010, 11:10 PM	#85
silviaguy240 Post Whore! Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Delaware Age: 32 Posts: 3,719 Trader Rating: (15) Feedback Score: 15 reviews	plus the rears chassis are weak. some substantial bracing is needed if you dont want to tear the rear half of the car in two. __________________

09-09-2010, 01:02 PM	#87
driftsilvias13 Nissanaholic! Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Los Angeles Posts: 2,297 Trader Rating: (54) Feedback Score: 54 reviews	Okay so for sure I am getting another car and am considering the is300 5spd. I'd figure I slap on a 2way and some suspension. Does anyone make a knuckle kit for this car yet? My biggest fear is that coming from an S-chassis, I wont get used to the steering of the is300. I really like the way this one looks __________________

09-09-2010, 01:16 PM	#88
VIPDRFT Zilvia Junkie Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Osan, South Korea Age: 35 Posts: 338 Trader Rating: (2) Feedback Score: 2 reviews	Yes, there are a couple companies that do. GP Sports Super Knuckle Angle Kit Toyota C-ONE Quick Steering Knuckle These ones below are for the JZX chassis, but I'm sure they could/would make some for the IS. Hey Man! Products http://www.rhdjapan.com/hey-man-prod...knuckles-62025 Billspeer http://csgarage.wordpress.com/2010/0...mate-knuckles/ http://teamblink.wordpress.com/2010/...100-billspeer/ __________________ Holding it and...WHEEL POPS OFF! O^O^O

09-10-2010, 08:15 PM	#90
travisty_ Zilvia Junkie Join Date: May 2010 Location: Phoenix, AZ Age: 29 Posts: 437 Trader Rating: (10) Feedback Score: 10 reviews	I support the idea of an is300, the steering shouldn't be much of an issue at all to get used to. Eye candy: One of my favorite sedans.

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