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jackal264 · 05-21-2009, 12:03 PM

i remember reading somewhere that there was a thermostat off another car that would open earlier like a nismo thermostat but my searches have come up empty.

anyone know which car it was from?

midnight_rex · 05-22-2009, 10:41 AM

just buy a nismo. u wont regret it

Sileighty_85 · 05-22-2009, 11:28 AM

The Nismo Shop : West Covina Nissan : Nismo Low Temp Thermostat :: 240sx

MadScientist · 05-22-2009, 11:35 AM

several places make Thermo... most are about the same prices.

Nismo
Sard
ARC
Billion

If $100 is to much (IYO)... then get the Nismo... if you want options and the absolute best... get Billion!!

-Drew

jackal264 · 05-22-2009, 02:45 PM

i have a nismo and it failed on me. it's stuck closed

RHD95S14 · 05-22-2009, 02:47 PM

Just get one for a ka, they make them at different opening temps

***S14DB*** · 05-22-2009, 02:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sileighty_85

The Nismo Shop : West Covina Nissan : Nismo Low Temp Thermostat :: 240sx

That's BS. Stock is 180*f and you can get a 170* one at the parts store for $8.

jackal264 · 05-22-2009, 03:38 PM

thx thats the info i was looking for. so most parts places will have ka compatible one that open at lower temps?

Ali 556 · 05-22-2009, 03:46 PM

dunno

today the temp out side is 46*C...

..My s14 is fucked in this weather....i've tried running "colder BS" t-stat but they work the same....

2007 pathfinder have the same t-stat as the ka...open at the same temp too FAIL C

no i'm running my car t-stat LESS...it's the same with or with out...

NINJA edit :

some one delet my link WTF?

***S14DB*** · 05-22-2009, 03:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jackal264

thx thats the info i was looking for. so most parts places will have ka compatible one that open at lower temps?

Most stores shelf stock will be the 170, OEM is 180.

Bigsyke · 05-22-2009, 04:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by S14DB

That's BS. Stock is 180*f and you can get a 170* one at the parts store for $8.

Wow, I was actually wondering today if thenismoshop had a type-o on their OEM tstats, since 76.5*c wasnt even near 195*f, because I was going to purchase the nismo.

180*f is perfect IMO

Ali 556 · 05-22-2009, 04:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bigsyke

wow, i was actually wondering today if thenismoshop had a type-o on their oem tstats, since 76.5*c wasnt even near 195*f, because i was going to purchase the nismo.

180*f is perfect imo

76.5c = 169.7 *f

82.22 c = 180 *f

195 f = 90*c

Bigsyke · 05-22-2009, 04:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ali 556

76.5c = 169.7 *f

82.22 c = 180 *f

195 f = 90*c

not according to thenismoshop.com

essforteen · 05-22-2009, 04:41 PM

Its a Typo they did not convert correctly
OEM is 170
Nismo is 143.6 F

Ali 556 · 05-22-2009, 04:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by essforteen

Its a Typo they did not convert correctly
OEM is 170
Nismo is 143.6 F

143.6 *F = 62 *C

Sileighty_85 · 05-22-2009, 08:38 PM

I have the Nismo Thermo from West Cov.
Combined with a Alum Koyo Rad and Dual E-Fans

My Defi Temp Gauge Never goes above 70*C (158*F)
always stays around 67*C

jackal264 · 05-22-2009, 09:44 PM

at the track this weekend i was hitting 220 after 2 laps and i'm running koyo rad, nismo t-stat, dual fal fans, and water wetter... then i let it idle to cool off came back 5 mins later and i was at 260!! fans were fine.

MadScientist · 05-23-2009, 10:50 AM

^^ 260??

I have warnings set for 190... 200 - 210 is getting hot... 260 is near death!!

Cooling Systems are very simple... only have a few components (all replaceable) ... if you have one part wrong the system will not be optimal... most critical that gets looked over is the fan shroud!!

-Drew

murda-c · 05-23-2009, 10:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jackal264

at the track this weekend i was hitting 220 after 2 laps and i'm running koyo rad, nismo t-stat, dual fal fans, and water wetter... then i let it idle to cool off came back 5 mins later and i was at 260!! fans were fine.

The temp went up while idling?

Fans definitely aren't fine.

Should put your clutch fan back on.

Ali 556 · 05-23-2009, 11:30 AM

+1

do you have oil cooler? maybe heat from there heated up the system

jackal264 · 05-23-2009, 12:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ali 556

+1

do you have oil cooler? maybe heat from there heated up the system

yup rinning a good sized oil cooler to. infact when the water spiked at idle the oil temps were fine.

and as for the shroud i'm running the 240 specific fal fans that come with a shroud. and i was running a stock fan before and was still getting overheating issues. and before anyone asks yes i also properly burped the system.

Sileighty_85 · 05-23-2009, 12:14 PM

What gauges are you using?

jackal264 · 05-23-2009, 12:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sileighty_85

What gauges are you using?

autometer cobalt. i've never had an issue with the gauge before.

here is a bit more info for those who may be able to help.

s14 sr into s14
fmic
koyo rad
dual fal fans
nismo t-stat
water wetter and 50/50 mix
properly bled the system

1 min on the track hard drifting and bang over heating. now normally i would just idle the car and the temps would come back down to 165 within a few mins but this last time the temps actually crept up. once i noticed it i shut the car off but ran the fans. after 2 mins i turned the car back on to let the water circulate and the temps cam back down quickly to 180 and then gradually back to 165.

there is no leak as the reservoir is still full, the pump must be working since it is circulating the water, so i have no idea what i'm doing wrong. as you can see i'm leaning towards the thermostat but even that seems unlikely b/c the temps do come back down which means the thermostat is opening.

landins13 · 05-23-2009, 12:41 PM

if you live somewhere really hott all the time, you can get away with no thermostat. i did that here and it just takes the car a really long time to get warmed up. but it was also 15 degrees outside. soooo the choice is yours. if your car is hitting 260 degrees slap dsm badges on it there is no reason it should get that hott

landins13 · 05-23-2009, 12:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jackal264

autometer cobalt. i've never had an issue with the gauge before.

here is a bit more info for those who may be able to help.

s14 sr into s14
fmic
koyo rad
dual fal fans
nismo t-stat
water wetter and 50/50 mix
properly bled the system

1 min on the track hard drifting and bang over heating. now normally i would just idle the car and the temps would come back down to 165 within a few mins but this last time the temps actually crept up. once i noticed it i shut the car off but ran the fans. after 2 mins i turned the car back on to let the water circulate and the temps cam back down quickly to 180 and then gradually back to 165.

there is no leak as the reservoir is still full, the pump must be working since it is circulating the water, so i have no idea what i'm doing wrong. as you can see i'm leaning towards the thermostat but even that seems unlikely b/c the temps do come back down which means the thermostat is opening.

the cobalt gauges work great. my only thought would be the ratio of coolant to water. royal purple makes a coolant additive that drop the temps even further, its almost like freeon for your coolant system.

Bigsyke · 05-23-2009, 01:07 PM

^^^what did the OEM water temp gauge show? was it in the middle? curious for my own self

jackal264 · 05-23-2009, 01:45 PM

i don't run stock gauges my cluster is all custom. i'm going to try no thermostat at the next event and see how that goes.

Sileighty_85 · 05-23-2009, 04:05 PM

possibly need an oversized W/P pully
at high RPM your probably Cavitaing the system.

jackal264 · 05-23-2009, 04:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sileighty_85

possibly need an oversized W/P pully
at high RPM your probably Cavitaing the system.

thats a good point i wonder if that would solve some of the issue. are any of the oversized pulleys afordable?

Bigsyke · 05-23-2009, 04:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sileighty_85

possibly need an oversized W/P pully
at high RPM your probably Cavitaing the system.

Wouldnt it be the opposite?

There is no excuse for 260*f, either there is an air pocket forming at the thermostat or your water pump is dying. -which probably would show the opposite due to warm coolant from he engine not flowing to the sending unit.

Your probably boiling coolant in the head thus creating large pockets of air to end up behind the thermostat, preventing it from opening.

05-21-2009, 12:03 PM	#1
jackal264 Zilvia Junkie Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: vancouver, canada Age: 35 Posts: 360 Trader Rating: (1) Feedback Score: 1 reviews	alternate to a nismo thermostat i remember reading somewhere that there was a thermostat off another car that would open earlier like a nismo thermostat but my searches have come up empty. anyone know which car it was from?

05-22-2009, 11:28 AM	#3
Sileighty_85 Post Whore! Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Misawa, Japan Posts: 6,815 Trader Rating: (8) Feedback Score: 8 reviews	The Nismo Shop : West Covina Nissan : Nismo Low Temp Thermostat :: 240sx __________________ 後輪駆動車１番 1989 Built SR GT2871R -363whp 1998 S14 W/RB25- 250ish (For Now) 1986 SR86 - 200ish 1990 R32 GTR - 320hp Don't Buy Engines from JDM-Online #/f/businesses/207457-jdm-online.html Don't Buy XS-Power or SSAC Shit

05-22-2009, 03:46 PM	#9
Ali 556 Zilvia Junkie Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Far Far Away...... Posts: 359 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	dunno today the temp out side is 46C.....My s14 is fucked in this weather....i've tried running "colder BS" t-stat but they work the same.... 2007 pathfinder have the same t-stat as the ka...open at the same temp too FAIL C no i'm running my car t-stat LESS...it's the same with or with out... NINJA edit :* some one delet my link WTF? __________________ '95 S14 Se With HKS's - BREMBO's - ES/SPL. Last edited by Ali 556; 05-22-2009 at 04:11 PM..

05-22-2009, 08:38 PM	#16
Sileighty_85 Post Whore! Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Misawa, Japan Posts: 6,815 Trader Rating: (8) Feedback Score: 8 reviews	I have the Nismo Thermo from West Cov. Combined with a Alum Koyo Rad and Dual E-Fans My Defi Temp Gauge Never goes above 70C (158F) always stays around 67*C __________________ 後輪駆動車１番 1989 Built SR GT2871R -363whp 1998 S14 W/RB25- 250ish (For Now) 1986 SR86 - 200ish 1990 R32 GTR - 320hp Don't Buy Engines from JDM-Online #/f/businesses/207457-jdm-online.html Don't Buy XS-Power or SSAC Shit

05-23-2009, 11:30 AM	#20
Ali 556 Zilvia Junkie Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Far Far Away...... Posts: 359 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	+1 do you have oil cooler? maybe heat from there heated up the system __________________ '95 S14 Se With HKS's - BREMBO's - ES/SPL.

05-22-2009, 10:41 AM	#2
midnight_rex Zilvia Member Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: houston, tx Age: 34 Posts: 239 Trader Rating: (1) Feedback Score: 1 reviews	just buy a nismo. u wont regret it

05-22-2009, 11:35 AM	#4
MadScientist Zilvia.net Advertiser Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: NOLA Age: 44 Posts: 1,964 Trader Rating: (3) Feedback Score: 3 reviews	several places make Thermo... most are about the same prices. Nismo Sard ARC Billion If $100 is to much (IYO)... then get the Nismo... if you want options and the absolute best... get Billion!! -Drew

05-22-2009, 02:45 PM	#5
jackal264 Zilvia Junkie Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: vancouver, canada Age: 35 Posts: 360 Trader Rating: (1) Feedback Score: 1 reviews	i have a nismo and it failed on me. it's stuck closed

05-22-2009, 02:47 PM	#6
RHD95S14 Zilvia Member Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: STL Age: 35 Posts: 169 Trader Rating: (3) Feedback Score: 3 reviews	Just get one for a ka, they make them at different opening temps

05-22-2009, 03:38 PM	#8
jackal264 Zilvia Junkie Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: vancouver, canada Age: 35 Posts: 360 Trader Rating: (1) Feedback Score: 1 reviews	thx thats the info i was looking for. so most parts places will have ka compatible one that open at lower temps?

05-22-2009, 04:41 PM	#14
essforteen Nissanaholic! Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: LAX Area (So CAL) Posts: 1,800 Trader Rating: (50) Rides Gallery: essforteen Feedback Score: 50 reviews	Its a Typo they did not convert correctly OEM is 170 Nismo is 143.6 F

05-22-2009, 09:44 PM	#17
jackal264 Zilvia Junkie Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: vancouver, canada Age: 35 Posts: 360 Trader Rating: (1) Feedback Score: 1 reviews	at the track this weekend i was hitting 220 after 2 laps and i'm running koyo rad, nismo t-stat, dual fal fans, and water wetter... then i let it idle to cool off came back 5 mins later and i was at 260!! fans were fine.

05-23-2009, 10:50 AM	#18
MadScientist Zilvia.net Advertiser Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: NOLA Age: 44 Posts: 1,964 Trader Rating: (3) Feedback Score: 3 reviews	^^ 260?? I have warnings set for 190... 200 - 210 is getting hot... 260 is near death!! Cooling Systems are very simple... only have a few components (all replaceable) ... if you have one part wrong the system will not be optimal... most critical that gets looked over is the fan shroud!! -Drew

05-23-2009, 12:14 PM	#22
Sileighty_85 Post Whore! Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Misawa, Japan Posts: 6,815 Trader Rating: (8) Feedback Score: 8 reviews	What gauges are you using? __________________ 後輪駆動車１番 1989 Built SR GT2871R -363whp 1998 S14 W/RB25- 250ish (For Now) 1986 SR86 - 200ish 1990 R32 GTR - 320hp Don't Buy Engines from JDM-Online #/f/businesses/207457-jdm-online.html Don't Buy XS-Power or SSAC Shit

05-23-2009, 12:41 PM	#24
landins13 Zilvia Addict Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Baltimore Posts: 986 Trader Rating: (3) Feedback Score: 3 reviews	if you live somewhere really hott all the time, you can get away with no thermostat. i did that here and it just takes the car a really long time to get warmed up. but it was also 15 degrees outside. soooo the choice is yours. if your car is hitting 260 degrees slap dsm badges on it there is no reason it should get that hott __________________ NO HANDS IN PANTS!!

05-23-2009, 01:07 PM	#26
Bigsyke Zilvia FREAK! Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: NA Age: 36 Posts: 1,342 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	^^^what did the OEM water temp gauge show? was it in the middle? curious for my own self

05-23-2009, 01:45 PM	#27
jackal264 Zilvia Junkie Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: vancouver, canada Age: 35 Posts: 360 Trader Rating: (1) Feedback Score: 1 reviews	i don't run stock gauges my cluster is all custom. i'm going to try no thermostat at the next event and see how that goes.

05-23-2009, 04:05 PM	#28
Sileighty_85 Post Whore! Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Misawa, Japan Posts: 6,815 Trader Rating: (8) Feedback Score: 8 reviews	possibly need an oversized W/P pully at high RPM your probably Cavitaing the system. __________________ 後輪駆動車１番 1989 Built SR GT2871R -363whp 1998 S14 W/RB25- 250ish (For Now) 1986 SR86 - 200ish 1990 R32 GTR - 320hp Don't Buy Engines from JDM-Online #/f/businesses/207457-jdm-online.html Don't Buy XS-Power or SSAC Shit

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