fromxtor

I wish that dromo 1 deal was on the east coast. +1 for seat time and HPDEs

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blu808

I recieved some funny rep from this post.

FormulaD Pro-Am Comp :... 07-27-2006 07:15 PM
SNAKES ON A PLANE !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Im a noob!! Flame me!! 07-27-2006 06:54 PM
Willingness to help NEWB is awesome!!!

Im a noob!! Flame me!! 07-25-2006 09:40 AM
GoodJob. Wanna be my pitcrew/sexslave?

Im a noob!! Flame me!! 07-25-2006 09:33 AM
Werd -SpeedMonkey

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SiI40sx

What if you THINK your already a good driver? Not professional level but maybe not entry level? I know my shifting point very well with my car and my braking limits on stock brakes, i kno what to do if they lock up on me and I can feel brake pad fade. I just feel like Im not COMPLETELY noob did you guys feel like that in the begining too? Ive also drag raced my old turbo s13 a few times =P So I know what its like to go on a straight track!

JaeTea

Whatever you think you know about driving you can throw out the fucking window.

I remember when I went people were saying "Its totally different than driving on the road". I was like yeah right, how different can it be, I've been driving for 12 years.

Then I got out there......

You're shifting at redline at every gear, braking hard enough to throw yourself out of the seat, full throttle out of every turn, watching other drivers, watching for the flaggers, worrying about your entry so you don't miss that apex and understeer off the course...

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HaLo

I got some rep too, but nothing as funny as yours!!!

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Race Car: '98 E36 BMW M3
Daily Driver: '08 Fiji Blue Honda Civic Si
SOLD: 01 GPW Honda S2000
PARTED: 93 Pearl White 240SX LE Fastback w/SR20DET
SOLD: 93 Super White 240SX SE Convertible w/Silvia Front

AceInHole

Blah! Forgot all about Canadian Nats!! Is reg closed for that ?? (not that I have tires for it... killed mine at NEDiv's with a spin on my last run, saw DJ there tho).

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meshmasteryow

Suspension! 12 charachter limit FTL!

cfrost

best thing to remember at the track is that it's not a competition, you do what you're doing for you...and that EVERYONE you see out there doing well...started out where you started. Spinning and understeering

good luck, have fun!

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ep510

Good luck at Nationals!

Actually the link was for Sept 23rd at Lime Rock Park in CT. Probably 5-5.5 hours from Montreal.

I need to see if they have any available dates at Tremblant for next year.

SiI40sx

damn y so angry?

OptionZero

He's not angry- he's right.

ep510

I think he means come in with an open mind. Many people go to drivers schools/ track days thinking they are going to tear up the track and teach the old dogs new tricks. it can be a very humbling experience for many people when they find out what it is really like.

going 100+ down a straight highway is nothing compared to the track. You may get top speed at some point, depening how much speed you carry onto the straight---but the real fun is braking, turning and trying to carry as much speed as possible through the corners --without hitting the pretty guardrails and tire walls at the same time.

Learn to drive the line --then learn to go fast. Getting the max out of whatever way your car is set up is really fun. i have a buddy who still tells stories about passing a Ferrari at Lime rock in his FSP AutoX BMW 320i --maybe 100 HP.--Needless to say the Ferrari was not driven to its fullest.

Have fun!

HaLo

REgistration is not closed for that event..
www.autoslalom.ca

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Race Car: '98 E36 BMW M3
Daily Driver: '08 Fiji Blue Honda Civic Si
SOLD: 01 GPW Honda S2000
PARTED: 93 Pearl White 240SX LE Fastback w/SR20DET
SOLD: 93 Super White 240SX SE Convertible w/Silvia Front

VROOOM

when i got my license i started autocrossing, its a great way to find the limits of your car in a controlled enviroment. you cant really hurt your car, unless hitting a few orange cars bothers you. if you live in LA i know there are some places where they autocross. i havent done it in a about 4 years but they used to do it at hollywood park across from the Forum. oh yeah its only like 10 or 20 bucks to race too. get comfortable in your car doing autocross then move up to some track days at willow springs.

TurDz

Take it from me. I've tracked my car occasionally for two years in stock trim. I would still keep doing it, but my stock shocks are going (just have that feeling) and I wouldn't mind taking advantage of free lowering springs I was given (thanks OptionZero).

Anyway, It really is a hubling experiencing being out there. People out there, while the culture emphasizes to have fun and learn, are out to show off and look fast. Don't buy into the hype. Seriously just try to feel the car and learn how it reacts with certain inputs. The 240 is a great learning car, not twitchy and exhibits the characterisics of a balanced RWD layout car.

I am proud to say that before any track events, I tried my best to reserach the most correct way to shift, learned heel-toe, etc. I can say it really helps on the track since it is 2nd nature almost.

I crashed part of my front bumper at Infineon because I tried to hard to keep up with my instructor's Porsche Carerra. Don't do that.

Last but not least, have fun and don't put pressure on yourself! I think if you read too many posts after this, you'll miss the enjoyment of just throwing yourself out there on the track. Take care.

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OptionZero

Yes, if you are comfortable with heel-toe and hard braking, it helps.

Do not, however, even think for a second that aggressive street/freeway driving prepares you for the track.

"Handling" a nice 80 sweeper on a freeway does not compare to taking an 80mph sweeper on a track...that leads into a blind, off camber turn.

The lateral forces you're going to experience are shocking, and trying to shift, brake, and watch where you're going while being thrown about are eye opening. Go in cocky, go home in a taxi (or worse).

This is not to say you can't do it; it means you should go in ears open, receptive to advice, and knowing it's better to back off than to push too far.

If you don't have a bucket seat (i'm assuming you don't),...good luck managing to keep your ass in place.

SochBAT

Luke, the SexSlave was me. haha, damn.

Tracktime, technique time, don't be a hardass and think you're the shit on the track to be fast. Everyones got a different learning curve. I've noticed people that just jump right in pick it up fairly quick, but their wallets kicking their asses in repairs and parts. Slow and steady wins the race. Or in this situation, knowledge.

Video the next time you hit a track up. I'm sure we'd all like to see.

JaeTea

Thats the point I wast trying to make.

I'm not angry..

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SiI40sx

what speedzone dont count???? lol yea Ill definately tape my first track event

S13SilviaGirl

Slick track at speedzone is hella fun! Especially with a ton of other 240 owners crashing into you!

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My Review Thread

theicecreamdan

my first track day was with speedtrialusa... you get time on a racetrack, and you can get people to ride with you.

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94cc0rd

did most of you guys go to your first track event alone or did a friend(s) come along with you guys?

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VROOOM

my friends parents have autocrossed for about 30 years, they made us go out and try it

S13SilviaGirl

90% of my friend were already driving track events, I kinda went along with them.

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94cc0rd

damn... well i'm dumb. The track event for speedtrialusa.com is held at Buttonwillow and I got it mixed up with Willow Springs. I was just about to register for the event on August 12 and checked maps.google.com and noticed that Buttonwillow is a good 2.5 hours away while Willow Springs is just about 1.5 hours.

Do you guys think it's worth the drive for my first track event or should I just wait for another event at Willow Springs or Irwindale Speedway? I'm about 10-15 minutes from Irwindale btw.

The only reason why I wouldn't want to make the drive to Buttonwillow, besides the fact that I would have to leave around 4am, is in case something happens to my car at the track, I have AAA 100 mile tow service and the track is about 150 miles away from me. Or just the fact that I have to drive 2.5 hours after a full day of hard driving...

ALSO, I checked out NASA/HPDE for their event at Willow Springs August 5 (this sat) and it says group 1 is sold out. Does that mean, as a beginner, I cannot register for group 2, 3, or 4?

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AceInHole

blah... forgot that it was this weekend. just bought some Hoosier's too, but def wont be able to get the time off from work now >.<

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Vatche

i totally agree with this thread and the support its getting. i have been getting my car ready for the track for 3 years and everytime i get close i get major set backs. good tires, brakes, and suspension are key. and making sure everything is in working and good order like everyone said. i reccomend hawk hp plus pads as they were excellent when i used them. but i am down to do an event in mid sept, i would love to go out to an event with a bunch of 240sx enthusiasts and have a good time. but probably the most important part about this thread is to really drive for yourself. and not show off to other people, you dont have to win in these scenarios. you are supposed to be enjoying yourself. and you want to bring your car home afterwards

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blu808

i have to commend everyone that has posted with helpful advice with mad positive rep. I am suprised this hasnt turned into a flying poo storm about newbs, and mad jdm stuff.

I hope we can help people out. because if we take this sooooooooooooo seriously that we take our expierience pridefully we just end up sucking on 14 ft polish dogs all day.


Helping people out FTW !!!


BTW FWT= :-), Fyi FTW + lol= Lmao+ Rolf= Zilvia

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94cc0rd

Welll, i just got back from my first drift event with justdrift at the willow springs oval. it was an AWESOME experience. the people there were SO nice and I got to sit in with some good drivers. Definately had a great time although it got kinda frustrating cuz I kept spinning out

I was kind of able to finish the drifts towards the end of the day but it was not smooth at all, very jerky and all over the place... but i had uber fun!

the instructor who drove my car said my viscous lsd was useless..lol
time to get a welded diff, bucket seat, and drift spin knob :P

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Flybert

Sounds like a dude who knows his priorities. Good to hear that you had a fun time.

EDIT: I read someone's post above that mentioned learning from a book to drive better. That will definitely not help a newcomer as much as sitting in with instructors. I remember doing a speedtrial event at Streets of Willow and jumped in a slow ass civic on race rubber with a really experienced instructor. He asked me if I really wanted to go with him in that car because he knew my car was fast. I was like, hell yeah I wanna go in this car. Little civic with RA-1's? How could I not want to get into that thing. When we started catching up to EVO's and FD's on the downhill sections, I knew what it was all about because I learned to take a slightly different line that made my laps even faster when I got into my car. For HPDE driving, I learned that driving smoother rather than more aggressively helped me go faster around the course.

As for drifting, find someone who drives the most aggressive, goes the fastest and says screw it to manji initiating BS, gets the most sideways, initiates the earliest, dirt drops like it's going out of style, and has a lead foot. Get in that persons car and realize what it is all about and do your best to copy them. Work your way on up to that point because you don't want to wreck your car but absorb the style, the line, and the skills. I learned from dorifto_slut back at buttonwillow a couple years ago and I still drive the same way. I still learn from other drivers now but I don't rely on ridealongs as much any more due the amount of experience I have. Oh yeah, and get your self on film. If you like what you see, keep it up. Otherwise, start getting crazier.

When you develop more experience, that is when you can learn from books or hearsay on how to improve your driving in my opinion.