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*fliprayzin240sx* · 07-04-2009, 10:27 AM

Max (Motormounts) sent me a set of Ultramounts and I managed to toss them into my car yesterday. I pulled out my older/beaten up URAS mounts and so far i like them. They're stiffer than my URAS mounts but again, keep in mind they are old (URAS ones: no clue how old but poly's not cracking or anything). These things are definitely stiffer. I noticed more rattles but its not stupidly loud. I say its up par if not slightly rattles more compared to brand new Cusco/Kazamas. Stiff but not stupid stiff like Hypnotik's solid CNC'd mounts that he was running a month ago. That shit was so stiff that he managed to rattle his windshield off the seals.

If you think NISMO mounts are too stiff...THESE MOUNTS ARE NOT FOR YOUR VAGINA!!!

For reference:

I decided to toss these in after i had to pull my top mount manifold due to cracking. Figured slapping these on and adding a flex pipe on my DP would help keep my manifold from stressing again.

These mounts are shorter than my URAS mounts with the metal plate on. I forgot to take a refence shot of these mounts next to a set of stock mounts I had in my storage, so I did the next best thing, used the URAS mounts as a reference to the stockers. Basically, Ultra mounts are shorter than URAS mounts and URAS mounts are still shorter than the stockers. These mounts should let your engine sit lower inside your engine bay.
Shot of URAS mount and Ultramounts:

URAS mount reference to Stockers:

By eye-balling it, these mounts are atleast 10mm shorter plus how ever much they'd compress after laying out the weight of the engine on it.

So far I only got 3 minor flaws about these mounts:
1) Studs are longer than I'd like them to be. I had to pop the engine mount brackets to get them on, even after raising the engine as much as I could (engine was pegged against the firewall and started raising the car). Would have made it easier to slip them on after getting the old mounts if the studs werent so long.
2) We have divots on S-chassis mounts that keeps the mounts from twisting around after getting mounted, these doesnt. I'm thinking they might eventually spin and loosen the nuts after a while. I say add a divot (Motormount) or just keep an eye out on your bolts and make sure the nuts doesnt loosen up.
3) Im slightly concerned about heat on the exhaust manifold side, I dont feel too comfortable with mounts like these being so close to one of the hottest thing in the engine bay (specially mine since im running a top mount manifold that likes to peg close to 900 degrees). Not sure how durable these poly would be...guess only time will tell.

Anyways, for the price that these cost, compared to whats out there in the market, these are pretty good deal. I'll keep updating this thread if something drastic happens ie: the mounts breaking or the studs ripping thru the mounts.

MrChow · 07-04-2009, 05:13 PM

^^
Interesting info. I'd like to hear what happens.

*jspecusa* · 07-04-2009, 07:48 PM

you can always use the stock heatsheild for the stock mount on the heated side.
I would only use solid mounts on track only cars, vibration to your body daily is not good for your health.

HYPNOTIK · 07-05-2009, 03:26 AM

^LOL^

I'll probly die pretty soon I guess.

MotorMounts · 07-08-2009, 08:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by fliprayzin240sx

Max (Motormounts) sent me a set of Ultramounts and I managed to toss them into my car yesterday. I pulled out my older/beaten up URAS mounts and so far i like them. They're stiffer than my URAS mounts but again, keep in mind they are old (URAS ones: no clue how old but poly's not cracking or anything). These things are definitely stiffer. I noticed more rattles but its not stupidly loud. I say its up par if not slightly rattles more compared to brand new Cusco/Kazamas. Stiff but not stupid stiff like Hypnotik's solid CNC'd mounts that he was running a month ago. That shit was so stiff that he managed to rattle his windshield off the seals.

If you think NISMO mounts are too stiff...THESE MOUNTS ARE NOT FOR YOUR VAGINA!!!

For reference:

I decided to toss these in after i had to pull my top mount manifold due to cracking. Figured slapping these on and adding a flex pipe on my DP would help keep my manifold from stressing again.

These mounts are shorter than my URAS mounts with the metal plate on. I forgot to take a refence shot of these mounts next to a set of stock mounts I had in my storage, so I did the next best thing, used the URAS mounts as a reference to the stockers. Basically, Ultra mounts are shorter than URAS mounts and URAS mounts are still shorter than the stockers. These mounts should let your engine sit lower inside your engine bay.
Shot of URAS mount and Ultramounts:

URAS mount reference to Stockers:

By eye-balling it, these mounts are atleast 10mm shorter plus how ever much they'd compress after laying out the weight of the engine on it.

So far I only got 3 minor flaws about these mounts:
1) Studs are longer than I'd like them to be. I had to pop the engine mount brackets to get them on, even after raising the engine as much as I could (engine was pegged against the firewall and started raising the car). Would have made it easier to slip them on after getting the old mounts if the studs werent so long.
2) We have divots on S-chassis mounts that keeps the mounts from twisting around after getting mounted, these doesnt. I'm thinking they might eventually spin and loosen the nuts after a while. I say add a divot (Motormount) or just keep an eye out on your bolts and make sure the nuts doesnt loosen up.
3) Im slightly concerned about heat on the exhaust manifold side, I dont feel too comfortable with mounts like these being so close to one of the hottest thing in the engine bay (specially mine since im running a top mount manifold that likes to peg close to 900 degrees). Not sure how durable these poly would be...guess only time will tell.

Anyways, for the price that these cost, compared to whats out there in the market, these are pretty good deal. I'll keep updating this thread if something drastic happens ie: the mounts breaking or the studs ripping thru the mounts.

OK........The stud length is real easy to shorten, will 5mm shorter (on each end) do the trick? As far as the stiffness goes, what is everyones feeling on this, leave the mounts the way they are, stiffen them more or soften them up. Height?? We can make them taller, but then the install isn't as adjustable. If you install them as they are and your engine is sitting too low you can shim the engine up with a fender washer (or two) if we make the mount taller (closer to stock) and your engine is sitting too high, well then your just screwed because you can't shim the mount shorter. Now lets talk about 900 degrees. No urethane mount likes to be in that environment. If the URAS mount was able to tolerate it, the Ultra Mount should see no problems either. It would be interesting to use an infrared thermometer on the mount near the exhaust to find out what the actual temp of the mount is, not the manifold. We have never heard of a mount melting but the question comes up a lot and it would be nice to have a bullet proof answer. Now on to the lack of "pins", never had any complaints on that one either, as far as the nuts coming loose after tightening. There is no twisting force on the mounts, so there shouldn't be a problem of them coming loose.

Ray, Thank You for a very thorough reveiw. I was looking for unbiased and I think I got it. I hope all who read this, chime in with their opinion on the changes to the mounts that could be made.
Ray, keep the info coming, a long term reveiw is what we need.

*fliprayzin240sx* · 07-08-2009, 09:24 PM

Well Max, other than the studs thing, I think the stiffness is fine the way it is. Anything stiffer and it will probably turn alot of people off it. The height of it is fine, some of us prefer it a bit lower anyways. I should a take a pix of how low it is in reference to the crossmember and sway bars.

But yah the temp thing is getting to it. I checked it yesterday while I had the car on the lift and the poly is definitely not liking it. My recommendation is if you can add a small metal "heatshield" on one of the mounts, that should be more than enough to keep it from getting exposed too much. Figured something that you can slip on on the top stud. Right now, the poly is getting some bubble on it from the heat and literally cooking it. Again, ill try to pick pictures when I get sometime, hitting up the track this Saturday so Ill probably need to come up with something to wrap it up before then. Like Sam suggested, Ill probably try to re-use the stock mounts heat shield...

gsxr141 · 07-26-2009, 03:21 PM

so, are these going to melt? i just got a set and i was going to install them tomorrow.

drift freaq · 07-26-2009, 03:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by fliprayzin240sx

Well Max, other than the studs thing, I think the stiffness is fine the way it is. Anything stiffer and it will probably turn alot of people off it. The height of it is fine, some of us prefer it a bit lower anyways. I should a take a pix of how low it is in reference to the crossmember and sway bars.

But yah the temp thing is getting to it. I checked it yesterday while I had the car on the lift and the poly is definitely not liking it. My recommendation is if you can add a small metal "heatshield" on one of the mounts, that should be more than enough to keep it from getting exposed too much. Figured something that you can slip on on the top stud. Right now, the poly is getting some bubble on it from the heat and literally cooking it. Again, ill try to pick pictures when I get sometime, hitting up the track this Saturday so Ill probably need to come up with something to wrap it up before then. Like Sam suggested, Ill probably try to re-use the stock mounts heat shield...

Wow with that top shot of those mounts? I know see they are made exactly how mine are made. LOL The only difference our mount bolts are offset. Though I can tell the design of those mounts are pretty much the same. I would be interested in learning the durometer of the material.

Oh and like mine if your running a Turbo you do indeed need a heat shield or they will heat up and kinda squish. They will not fall apart but the heat will effect them. Other than that they look fine and look like very good mounts.

*fliprayzin240sx* · 07-26-2009, 05:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gsxr141

so, are these going to melt? i just got a set and i was going to install them tomorrow.

Re use the stock heatshield on the exhaust side and you should be good to go. Mine bubbled up cuz my external wastegate is literaly an inch away from it.

gsxr141 · 07-26-2009, 05:09 PM

i should be ok then. i just have a 4-2-1 header for now. no turbo yet.

gsxr141 · 08-01-2009, 11:29 AM

well i just got the mounts in. i had no fittment issues. i got them installed in less than an hour.
now for review.................. i thought my car vibrated before with the peak performance trans mount. now my rear view mirror shakes like a bitch. i'm not complaining though. if it makes the car work better, i'll deal with it. i will say this........my wife won't want to ride in it anymore. oh well, time for a cage and just 1 seat.lol

red240 · 08-18-2009, 01:10 PM

Any updates on these?

*garagelu* · 08-18-2009, 04:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MotorMounts

As far as the stiffness goes, what is everyones feeling on this, leave the mounts the way they are, stiffen them more or soften them up.

For stiffness, to one person it may be unbearable but to the next it may be just perfect. You can't please everyone so build a product that you think works the best.

HYPNOTIK · 08-19-2009, 03:02 AM

Still lovin them, no issues for me.

HyperTek · 08-19-2009, 03:07 AM

i threw solids in my 13 was great but the vibrations during standstill was the most noticible.
YouTube - S13 sr20 start up

David B S12 · 08-19-2009, 03:25 AM

lol

3m window weld... no need to blow money

didnt even take the mounts off... just jacked the engine up with some wood/jack and went to town..

17 bux for a tube.. a tube can do like 4 mounts
part number 08609 at autozone... probally cheaper at other places but i work there.. and i didnt pay for it
cures like any poly.. like 24 hours. im letting mine sit for a few days since i have no need to drive it till summits next event saturday

reason why im doing this i had to bend my ka headers because they hit my steering colum, only at low idle while it shakes now so hopefully this will reduce that.. next is some cut washers to slide in to raise that side

*fliprayzin240sx* · 08-19-2009, 05:00 AM

No gripes from me for for Ultramounts...so far so good. Cracked my manifold again so Im getting that fixed, adding more bracing to it, adding a flex pipe into my dp and putting on my GT3582R turbo.

07-04-2009, 10:27 AM	#91
fliprayzin240sx Man w/ CTSV & a Car Seat Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Tampa Posts: 17,998 Trader Rating: (19) Rides Gallery: fliprayzin240sx Feedback Score: 19 reviews	Max (Motormounts) sent me a set of Ultramounts and I managed to toss them into my car yesterday. I pulled out my older/beaten up URAS mounts and so far i like them. They're stiffer than my URAS mounts but again, keep in mind they are old (URAS ones: no clue how old but poly's not cracking or anything). These things are definitely stiffer. I noticed more rattles but its not stupidly loud. I say its up par if not slightly rattles more compared to brand new Cusco/Kazamas. Stiff but not stupid stiff like Hypnotik's solid CNC'd mounts that he was running a month ago. That shit was so stiff that he managed to rattle his windshield off the seals. If you think NISMO mounts are too stiff...THESE MOUNTS ARE NOT FOR YOUR VAGINA!!! For reference: I decided to toss these in after i had to pull my top mount manifold due to cracking. Figured slapping these on and adding a flex pipe on my DP would help keep my manifold from stressing again. These mounts are shorter than my URAS mounts with the metal plate on. I forgot to take a refence shot of these mounts next to a set of stock mounts I had in my storage, so I did the next best thing, used the URAS mounts as a reference to the stockers. Basically, Ultra mounts are shorter than URAS mounts and URAS mounts are still shorter than the stockers. These mounts should let your engine sit lower inside your engine bay. Shot of URAS mount and Ultramounts: URAS mount reference to Stockers: By eye-balling it, these mounts are atleast 10mm shorter plus how ever much they'd compress after laying out the weight of the engine on it. So far I only got 3 minor flaws about these mounts: 1) Studs are longer than I'd like them to be. I had to pop the engine mount brackets to get them on, even after raising the engine as much as I could (engine was pegged against the firewall and started raising the car). Would have made it easier to slip them on after getting the old mounts if the studs werent so long. 2) We have divots on S-chassis mounts that keeps the mounts from twisting around after getting mounted, these doesnt. I'm thinking they might eventually spin and loosen the nuts after a while. I say add a divot (Motormount) or just keep an eye out on your bolts and make sure the nuts doesnt loosen up. 3) Im slightly concerned about heat on the exhaust manifold side, I dont feel too comfortable with mounts like these being so close to one of the hottest thing in the engine bay (specially mine since im running a top mount manifold that likes to peg close to 900 degrees). Not sure how durable these poly would be...guess only time will tell. Anyways, for the price that these cost, compared to whats out there in the market, these are pretty good deal. I'll keep updating this thread if something drastic happens ie: the mounts breaking or the studs ripping thru the mounts. __________________ If you think Zilvia has too many assholes... CLICK HERE!!! Last edited by fliprayzin240sx; 07-04-2009 at 06:17 PM..

07-04-2009, 07:48 PM	#93
jspecusa Premium Member Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: socal Posts: 1,339 Trader Rating: (7) Feedback Score: 7 reviews	you can always use the stock heatsheild for the stock mount on the heated side. I would only use solid mounts on track only cars, vibration to your body daily is not good for your health. __________________ Nissan Japan: "road to happiness has many curves" Jdmlivin: "Jdm is dead, the yen is crazy"

07-05-2009, 03:26 AM	#94
HYPNOTIK Zilvia Addict Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Pisa, Italy Posts: 700 Trader Rating: (3) Feedback Score: 3 reviews	^LOL^ I'll probly die pretty soon I guess. __________________

07-08-2009, 09:24 PM	#96
fliprayzin240sx Man w/ CTSV & a Car Seat Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Tampa Posts: 17,998 Trader Rating: (19) Rides Gallery: fliprayzin240sx Feedback Score: 19 reviews	Well Max, other than the studs thing, I think the stiffness is fine the way it is. Anything stiffer and it will probably turn alot of people off it. The height of it is fine, some of us prefer it a bit lower anyways. I should a take a pix of how low it is in reference to the crossmember and sway bars. But yah the temp thing is getting to it. I checked it yesterday while I had the car on the lift and the poly is definitely not liking it. My recommendation is if you can add a small metal "heatshield" on one of the mounts, that should be more than enough to keep it from getting exposed too much. Figured something that you can slip on on the top stud. Right now, the poly is getting some bubble on it from the heat and literally cooking it. Again, ill try to pick pictures when I get sometime, hitting up the track this Saturday so Ill probably need to come up with something to wrap it up before then. Like Sam suggested, Ill probably try to re-use the stock mounts heat shield... __________________ If you think Zilvia has too many assholes... CLICK HERE!!!

08-19-2009, 03:02 AM	#104
HYPNOTIK Zilvia Addict Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Pisa, Italy Posts: 700 Trader Rating: (3) Feedback Score: 3 reviews	Still lovin them, no issues for me. __________________

07-26-2009, 03:21 PM	#97
gsxr141 Zilvia Junkie Join Date: May 2008 Location: rochester Posts: 327 Trader Rating: (3) Feedback Score: 3 reviews	so, are these going to melt? i just got a set and i was going to install them tomorrow.

07-26-2009, 05:09 PM	#100
gsxr141 Zilvia Junkie Join Date: May 2008 Location: rochester Posts: 327 Trader Rating: (3) Feedback Score: 3 reviews	i should be ok then. i just have a 4-2-1 header for now. no turbo yet.

08-01-2009, 11:29 AM	#101
gsxr141 Zilvia Junkie Join Date: May 2008 Location: rochester Posts: 327 Trader Rating: (3) Feedback Score: 3 reviews	well i just got the mounts in. i had no fittment issues. i got them installed in less than an hour. now for review.................. i thought my car vibrated before with the peak performance trans mount. now my rear view mirror shakes like a bitch. i'm not complaining though. if it makes the car work better, i'll deal with it. i will say this........my wife won't want to ride in it anymore. oh well, time for a cage and just 1 seat.lol

08-18-2009, 01:10 PM	#102
red240 Zilvia Junkie Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Florida Posts: 432 Trader Rating: (6) Feedback Score: 6 reviews	Any updates on these?

08-19-2009, 03:07 AM	#105
HyperTek Post Whore! Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Cali Posts: 13,222 Trader Rating: (3) Feedback Score: 3 reviews	i threw solids in my 13 was great but the vibrations during standstill was the most noticible. YouTube - S13 sr20 start up __________________ Keep it Classy

08-19-2009, 03:25 AM	#106
David B S12 Zilvia Junkie Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: NOVA (Northern VA) Posts: 324 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	lol 3m window weld... no need to blow money didnt even take the mounts off... just jacked the engine up with some wood/jack and went to town.. 17 bux for a tube.. a tube can do like 4 mounts part number 08609 at autozone... probally cheaper at other places but i work there.. and i didnt pay for it cures like any poly.. like 24 hours. im letting mine sit for a few days since i have no need to drive it till summits next event saturday reason why im doing this i had to bend my ka headers because they hit my steering colum, only at low idle while it shakes now so hopefully this will reduce that.. next is some cut washers to slide in to raise that side

08-19-2009, 05:00 AM	#107
fliprayzin240sx Man w/ CTSV & a Car Seat Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Tampa Posts: 17,998 Trader Rating: (19) Rides Gallery: fliprayzin240sx Feedback Score: 19 reviews	No gripes from me for for Ultramounts...so far so good. Cracked my manifold again so Im getting that fixed, adding more bracing to it, adding a flex pipe into my dp and putting on my GT3582R turbo. __________________ If you think Zilvia has too many assholes... CLICK HERE!!!

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