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Koopa Troopa · 03-05-2009, 07:57 AM

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Originally Posted by ayuaddict

i am poor so RT615s will have to do for now.

but.

when i do get new tires what do you recommend?

Direzza Star Spec or Potenza RE01R. RT615's were great on my Civic for the first month then after that they became scary.

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so far the 10K feels nice but its been raining lately so no good driving time.

i suppose i will have to get new coil overs entirely in the future.

my H&Rs are non dampening adjustable and to be honest im actually worried my 10ks will blow them.

again what would you recommend?

The guy who bought my Motec gave me this formula. He said to buy off the self Bilstein dampers for your car, get the coil over sleeves and whatever spring rates you want. For ~$70 a damper they'll cut them an inch shorter and put NASCAR internals in them and for ~$280 a damper they'll revalve them for the springs.

I believe Koni and Ohlins will do the same for their off the shelf dampers as well.

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whats your EG set up like?

would you be kind enough to provide photos and a thorough list of modifications?

It's set up to be stiff as shit and slightly neutral. Stock B16A means I can floor it through the turns and keep traction which means I am faster through turns than the bigger guys.

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Originally Posted by ayuaddict

oh. fuck.

that sounds good.

so what spring rates on a civic would feel like 9/7 on a S13?

or rather what spring rates on double wishbone would feel as stiff as 9k feels on McPherson?

I'd run something like 16/14 or 18/16 depending on what you use the car for. If the suspension is valved properly you won't even notice the high spring rates.

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and WTF is a monokukyu bar?

Monokukyu is the jdm word for unibody. it's a bar that ties the unibody together in the front and rear. I think they're pretty much limited to Yafu Auction as I never see them for sale anywhere else.

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are you not running sway bars?

Stock. I'm happy with the way the car handles right now and honestly I'm too scared to change to a larger rear. I don't want to risk the car becoming too tail happy. It rotates easy enough as it is.

My friend and my new exhaust.

stiizy · 03-05-2009, 08:09 AM

^^ That wing looks sick..

What wing is that??

I like the purp lol

Koopa Troopa · 03-05-2009, 08:11 AM

It's a carbon fiber Back Yard Special wing. I'm going to take it to the body shop soon to have it stripped of the paint and recleared.

You know what's amazing? That whole rear bumper is painted in black rust enamel.. Look how glossy it looks! I also painted parts of the body that were rusting with the rust enamel.. Can't even tell...

stiizy · 03-05-2009, 08:20 AM

Yeah ya right you can't tell sick!!

I was thinking it ws a backyard special i had the bumper for my old 00 Si..

ronmcdon · 03-05-2009, 10:36 AM

Interesting suspension setup. How are the roads where you're at? Seems that you'd have to get really well paved roads to take advantage of such a stiff suspension. as far as tires go, it's also nice you have a choice of wider re-01r's there. iirc, the widest 15's I can find via US tire merchants for the Z1 ss's are 195's. going wider would pretty much mean going with 615's or Kumho MX's (which I use, and they do well at hpde events).

here's my EG suspension setup;
ots koni yellows
ground control coilovers, front 400 lbs (10k?) rear 500 (8k?).

mugen upper front bar
e-bay pos upper rear bar
cusco lower front bar
asr subframe brace
jim-fab traction bar

no front swaybar
itr 22 mm rear swaybar
mugen trailing arm bushings
quaife helical lsd

15x7 +48 rotas
205/50 kumho mx

mystery alignment (have no done yet).

I like the way the car handles on the street.
Body roll is minimal.
It almost never gets upset by road irregularities (roads not good here in socal), or mediocre road conditions you get at tracks like streets of willow.
On the track it is okay.
It grips decent, also minimal body roll, drives predictably.
There's just not as much rotation as I would like.
Then again my standard of a well rotating car is a miata and evo.
It surely would benefit from a proper alignment (and def more seat time).

somovr4 · 03-05-2009, 11:49 AM

Good looking EK son.

JohnJohn86 · 03-05-2009, 11:49 AM

I have a S2000 and I love it, not as much as the 240 tho

DUFFM4N · 03-05-2009, 12:30 PM

ayuaddict...

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J90lude · 03-05-2009, 12:56 PM

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Originally Posted by keistyle

you look like a young chamillionare

haha I mad that you pointed that out hahaha

Koopa Troopa · 03-05-2009, 05:30 PM

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Originally Posted by ronmcdon

Interesting suspension setup. How are the roads where you're at? Seems that you'd have to get really well paved roads to take advantage of such a stiff suspension.
There's just not as much rotation as I would like.
Then again my standard of a well rotating car is a miata and evo.
It surely would benefit from a proper alignment (and def more seat time).

Roads are shitty and made of coral. The RE01Rs are a great tire. I doubt I could drive anywhere near as fast if I was still using RT615s.

You have no front bar, 22mm rear bar and there's not enough rotation? Damn... Make the rear end stiffer via chassis braces? Stock rear sway bar I have problems lifting tires on the street...

ronmcdon · 03-05-2009, 06:03 PM

Think RE01-R's are being discontinued.
Tirerack is doing a closeout on them right now, and there are decent deals to be had.
The replacement should be the RE-11's, and they'll be avail in 205/50/15 @ US$120/tire;
since you're in Japan, I'd imagine you guys got the RE-11's sooner.
have any idea if they're any good?

RE-01R Currently Available Prices and Sizes
RE-11 Currently Available Prices and Sizes

There's also the newer Kumho XS with some interesting sizes (like 315/17's) & reasonable pricing.
205/50/15's size are offered.
Not much news on that despite being on the market for several months already;
seriously though, it is becoming more difficult for good tires to be made in wider sizes for smaller 15" (or even 17") diameter wheels.

http://www.tirerack.com/tires/Sizes....model=Ecsta+XS

Really wish the Z1's came in 205/15.
I have them right now on my evo, and i'm really happy how they perform at autoX & hpde's.
the price is right too. a set of 245/18 cost me around $820 shipped from tire-rack.

With the rotation, I'll prob get the alignment done right first.
maybe make some adjustments with camber give the rear -1, front -2.
would be fun to give some slight toe out in the front.
agreed with the additional bracing. will try that next.

I like how you run wider wheels in the front. I'm intrigued to try that out myself.
It's a convincing enough excuse for me to get another set of wheels.

ayuaddict · 03-05-2009, 11:25 PM

yea im not too sure about the 195/50s...

im personally happy with the azenis for now, they arethe grippiest tires ive owned to date and my driving skills are not any where near decent any ways.

but i will definitely keep the star specs and re01rs in mind when these tires get all worn up.

if anything i want to figure out a way to reduce bump steer, perhaps flip the tie rod ends upside down and use a longer ball joint and spacer like the SPL ones for 240?

ive kept the car at a reaosnable height but i think perhaps the suspension might benefit from roll center adjusters...

man i dont know shit about actually having a car perform well. lol.

ronmcdon · 03-05-2009, 11:42 PM

615's might not be the absolute best tires out there, but honestly I think they're fine.
actually they're a wonderful autoX & street tire as they grip great when cold.

as far as suspension mods go, I recommend keeping it simple to begin with.
if it were me, I'd even stick with the stock suspension, get an alignment, & good tires first.
just learn to drive it well.
add parts later as needed be (not the other way around).

I don't disagree with your choice in parts per say, but I think you'd benefit more from investing in seat time more than parts right now.
If you feel you don't know enough, then you prob shouldn't be spending too much $ yet on parts.
if you're cheap and/or poor just go autoXing like once a month.
that's like $60/month. Its nothing.

imo, obtaining a suspension you're happy with is a gradual process that requires lots of experimentation & practice.
It's also a personal process.
What works for 'such and such' might not be optimal for your driving style.
You just have to drive, and play with settings step-by-step.

If needed be, just research what the H-T guys on the track/autoX section are doing.
(the rest of the guys on that site are no more than poseurs and/or drag racers imo).
you'll begin to notice patterns that are indicative of what works and what doesn't.

spending 2 mins on H-T autoX/RoadRace forum, I ran across this thread.

http://honda-tech.com/showthread.php?t=2507289

While you might not be in the same exact situation as the OP,
good general advice is given on one's approach to play with your suspension.
start simple and move up.
I just wouldn't agree with driving around in complete shit parts that are dangerous and inconsistent.
at the very least, have something reliable, get good tires and pads.

ESmorz · 03-06-2009, 12:17 AM

So I offered up my 240 for trade for a civic today.

HyperTek · 03-06-2009, 12:33 AM

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Originally Posted by ESmorz

So I offered up my 240 for trade for a civic today.

never thought id hear someone on zilvia ever say that lmao.. no offense to some of the nice hondas posted in this thread.

ESmorz · 03-06-2009, 12:39 AM

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Originally Posted by HyperTek

never thought id hear someone on zilvia ever say that lmao.. no offense to some of the nice hondas posted in this thread.

EG Hatch
Type R Euro Accord swap
Coils
LSD
Etc...

Sounds more fun than my 240.

blahz36 · 03-06-2009, 01:27 AM

My Honda

ayuaddict · 03-06-2009, 03:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ronmcdon

615's might not be the absolute best tires out there, but honestly I think they're fine.
actually they're a wonderful autoX & street tire as they grip great when cold.

as far as suspension mods go, I recommend keeping it simple to begin with.
if it were me, I'd even stick with the stock suspension, get an alignment, & good tires first.
just learn to drive it well.
add parts later as needed be (not the other way around).

I don't disagree with your choice in parts per say, but I think you'd benefit more from investing in seat time more than parts right now.
If you feel you don't know enough, then you prob shouldn't be spending too much $ yet on parts.
if you're cheap and/or poor just go autoXing like once a month.
that's like $60/month. Its nothing.

imo, obtaining a suspension you're happy with is a gradual process that requires lots of experimentation & practice.
It's also a personal process.
What works for 'such and such' might not be optimal for your driving style.
You just have to drive, and play with settings step-by-step.

If needed be, just research what the H-T guys on the track/autoX section are doing.
(the rest of the guys on that site are no more than poseurs and/or drag racers imo).
you'll begin to notice patterns that are indicative of what works and what doesn't.

spending 2 mins on H-T autoX/RoadRace forum, I ran across this thread.

suspension help - Honda-Tech

While you might not be in the same exact situation as the OP,
good general advice is given on one's approach to play with your suspension.
start simple and move up.
I just wouldn't agree with driving around in complete shit parts that are dangerous and inconsistent.
at the very least, have something reliable, get good tires and pads.

thanks for the advise.

im not new to messing around with cars by any means, however this is my first non RWD car as well as the newest car i have owned.

im not completely mechanically impotent nor am i completely devoid of any driving experience, just i have nothing worth mentioning.

maybe im trying too hard to get my civic to handle like the corollas/miatas/S13s im used to driving. like you say i should try to understand the car better and work with it's advantages instead of trying to "fix" the differences.

ESmorz · 03-06-2009, 03:35 AM

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Originally Posted by ayuaddict

like you say i should try to understand the car better and work with it's advantages instead of trying to "fix" the differences.

Deep.

You're like the Zatoichi of Honda's.

SleepyFuckinD · 03-06-2009, 03:56 AM

Had a 2000 Civic Si...matter of fact here's some pics:

Car looked like this when i got it(Mostly Stock) needed tons of work:

And here's after:

Had a bunch of leftover parts that i just got lazy about...

After getting rid of the indiglo gauges and some tacky ass shit the original owner had on it i just got bored with it. I got the car for $500 cause the guy had a 350z and he didn't wanna pay insurance for a car he didn't drive nor want anymore. So he sold it to me and i flipped it for $5600 after i did all the work to it. Although i do miss the incredible gas mileage i was getting... I was gonna keep it and turbo it, but then when i saw the price to get the kit and have a shop do it i was like fuck that i'll just buy a 240...

ayuaddict · 03-06-2009, 03:59 AM

you're like Kate Winslet in Titanic.

so you gonna get that civic?

i dunno, if i had this civic but didnt have my S13 any more, i may be unhappy.

Koopa Troopa · 03-06-2009, 04:13 AM

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Originally Posted by ayuaddict

thanks for the advise.

im not new to messing around with cars by any means, however this is my first non RWD car as well as the newest car i have owned.

im not completely mechanically impotent nor am i completely devoid of any driving experience, just i have nothing worth mentioning.

maybe im trying too hard to get my civic to handle like the corollas/miatas/S13s im used to driving. like you say i should try to understand the car better and work with it's advantages instead of trying to "fix" the differences.

Do you have an LSD? Get an LSD tranny as your next purchase. Have you posted a current list of everything done to the car? I'd like to see what's all been done to include tire sizes, brake pads, etc. Just remember one thing when driving an FF car with an LSD. NEVER LIFT OFF. If you lift off the throttle in an oversteer situation you will spin the car backwards. If the rear end slips, point the wheel in the direction you want to go and accelerate. It's something you have to teach yourself to do as your brain will tell you to slow down.

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Originally Posted by ESmorz

EG Hatch
Type R Euro Accord swap
Coils
LSD
Etc...

Sounds more fun than my 240.

Badass but that's a pure drag car.

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Originally Posted by ronmcdon

615's might not be the absolute best tires out there, but honestly I think they're fine.
actually they're a wonderful autoX & street tire as they grip great when cold.

Like I said, they were awesome for the first month I had them but after that they just became junk and then eventually went bald. I went through 2 full sets of RT615's in 5 months.

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as far as suspension mods go, I recommend keeping it simple to begin with.
if it were me, I'd even stick with the stock suspension, get an alignment, & good tires first.
just learn to drive it well.
add parts later as needed be (not the other way around).

Agreed

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Originally Posted by ronmcdon

Think RE01-R's are being discontinued.
Tirerack is doing a closeout on them right now, and there are decent deals to be had.
The replacement should be the RE-11's, and they'll be avail in 205/50/15 @ US$120/tire;
since you're in Japan, I'd imagine you guys got the RE-11's sooner.
have any idea if they're any good?

RE-01R Currently Available Prices and Sizes
RE-11 Currently Available Prices and Sizes

I haven't driven on RE11's yet but a dude I know has them on his 32GTR he said they have pretty poor cold traction but once they heat up a bit they're amazing.

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I like how you run wider wheels in the front. I'm intrigued to try that out myself.
It's a convincing enough excuse for me to get another set of wheels.

The wider wheels in the front is completely involuntary. The front wheels came off my friend's ITR and the rear were bought off Yafu Auction to complete the set. Hower I do like the staggered set up.

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Originally Posted by ayuaddict

if anything i want to figure out a way to reduce bump steer, perhaps flip the tie rod ends upside down and use a longer ball joint and spacer like the SPL ones for 240?

Better bushings

ESmorz · 03-06-2009, 04:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ayuaddict

you're like Kate Winslet in Titanic.

so you gonna get that civic?

i dunno, if i had this civic but didnt have my S13 any more, i may be unhappy.

I fell out of love with my S13 a loooooong time ago. Besides, I'd still have my Subie and Corolla.

We shall see. I'll probably end up keeping that car till the day I die just to spite it.

Maybe I will just pick up a eg shell and put a really cheap v8 in it.

ayuaddict · 03-06-2009, 08:25 AM

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Originally Posted by Koopa Troopa

Do you have an LSD? Get an LSD tranny as your next purchase. Have you posted a current list of everything done to the car? I'd like to see what's all been done to include tire sizes, brake pads, etc. Just remember one thing when driving an FF car with an LSD. NEVER LIFT OFF. If you lift off the throttle in an oversteer situation you will spin the car backwards. If the rear end slips, point the wheel in the direction you want to go and accelerate. It's something you have to teach yourself to do as your brain will tell you to slow down.

Like I said, they were awesome for the first month I had them but after that they just became junk and then eventually went bald. I went through 2 full sets of RT615's in 5 months.

Better bushings

no i do not have an LSD, at least im pretty sure i do not.

like i said before, previous to me purchasing this car, i was putting it together for my friend who had a bit more money than knowledge, (i spent a lot of time installing a bunch of speakers, subwoofer and cute little accesories), so if anything on this car does not make sense to you give me the benefit of the doubt.

engine:

japanese D15B.

exterior:

Ek4 sir bumpers
carbon fiber hood

suspension:

H&R coilovers with ground control top hats and 10k springs up front and some trash ass progressive rate springs in the rear.
polyurethane bushings everywhere.
omni power LCAs.
Neuspeed rear sway bar.
ASR subframe brace.
integra GSR brakes with not so awesome pads.
braided SS brake lines.
ARP extended studs.
blox lug nuts
EM C pillar bar.
NRG tringular front strut tower brace.
NRG under car front sub frame brace.
15x7 +35 RPF1s with 205/50/15 RT615.
15x6.5 +40 rotas with 205/50/15 RT615.

i think thats about it.

francogt1 · 03-06-2009, 09:14 AM

i had a Honda once too bought it only to take profit out of it i made double the money from what i paid for it it only needed a new timing belt instead of a "new engine" as the seller advised =]

the car dint turn for shit the H22 engine was way to heavy but boy did it go in a straight line!

francogt1 · 03-06-2009, 09:24 AM

hows is this for your guys?
H22 mated with a S2000 6 speed tranny turbocharged. on a S13

LeftNutOfGowd · 03-06-2009, 09:32 AM

I miss my 98 Prelude

Koopa Troopa · 03-06-2009, 11:01 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ayuaddict

no i do not have an LSD, at least im pretty sure i do not.

engine:

japanese D15B.

Car sounds good... Make your next purchase a B16A with JDM LSD tranny.

VROOOM · 03-06-2009, 11:51 AM

B16?? at least go for the B18C. B16 have no torque. mildly built B18C with a b16 LSd tranny is what i would get.

i had a B18C it was kinda built
B18C block
LS rods
LS crank
ITR pistons
Skunk 2 Stage 2 cams
HKS cam gears
port flow valvetrain
skunk 2 intake manifold
ITR exhaust manifold
5 zigen miracle fireball exhaust
ported TB

stiizy · 03-06-2009, 11:54 AM

B16 for life bro....

Baby R i love that motor....

03-05-2009, 08:11 AM	#123
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stiizy Post Whore! Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: NYC Age: 39 Posts: 6,332 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	^^ That wing looks sick.. What wing is that?? I like the purp lol

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stiizy Post Whore! Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: NYC Age: 39 Posts: 6,332 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Yeah ya right you can't tell sick!! I was thinking it ws a backyard special i had the bumper for my old 00 Si..

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ronmcdon Post Whore! Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: beverly hills Age: 86 Posts: 4,254 Trader Rating: (6) Feedback Score: 6 reviews	Interesting suspension setup. How are the roads where you're at? Seems that you'd have to get really well paved roads to take advantage of such a stiff suspension. as far as tires go, it's also nice you have a choice of wider re-01r's there. iirc, the widest 15's I can find via US tire merchants for the Z1 ss's are 195's. going wider would pretty much mean going with 615's or Kumho MX's (which I use, and they do well at hpde events). here's my EG suspension setup; ots koni yellows ground control coilovers, front 400 lbs (10k?) rear 500 (8k?). mugen upper front bar e-bay pos upper rear bar cusco lower front bar asr subframe brace jim-fab traction bar no front swaybar itr 22 mm rear swaybar mugen trailing arm bushings quaife helical lsd 15x7 +48 rotas 205/50 kumho mx mystery alignment (have no done yet). I like the way the car handles on the street. Body roll is minimal. It almost never gets upset by road irregularities (roads not good here in socal), or mediocre road conditions you get at tracks like streets of willow. On the track it is okay. It grips decent, also minimal body roll, drives predictably. There's just not as much rotation as I would like. Then again my standard of a well rotating car is a miata and evo. It surely would benefit from a proper alignment (and def more seat time).

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03-05-2009, 06:03 PM	#131
ronmcdon Post Whore! Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: beverly hills Age: 86 Posts: 4,254 Trader Rating: (6) Feedback Score: 6 reviews	Think RE01-R's are being discontinued. Tirerack is doing a closeout on them right now, and there are decent deals to be had. The replacement should be the RE-11's, and they'll be avail in 205/50/15 @ US$120/tire; since you're in Japan, I'd imagine you guys got the RE-11's sooner. have any idea if they're any good? RE-01R Currently Available Prices and Sizes RE-11 Currently Available Prices and Sizes There's also the newer Kumho XS with some interesting sizes (like 315/17's) & reasonable pricing. 205/50/15's size are offered. Not much news on that despite being on the market for several months already; seriously though, it is becoming more difficult for good tires to be made in wider sizes for smaller 15" (or even 17") diameter wheels. http://www.tirerack.com/tires/Sizes....model=Ecsta+XS Really wish the Z1's came in 205/15. I have them right now on my evo, and i'm really happy how they perform at autoX & hpde's. the price is right too. a set of 245/18 cost me around $820 shipped from tire-rack. With the rotation, I'll prob get the alignment done right first. maybe make some adjustments with camber give the rear -1, front -2. would be fun to give some slight toe out in the front. agreed with the additional bracing. will try that next. I like how you run wider wheels in the front. I'm intrigued to try that out myself. It's a convincing enough excuse for me to get another set of wheels.

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ayuaddict Post Whore! Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Socal Age: 32 Posts: 4,017 Trader Rating: (9) Feedback Score: 9 reviews	yea im not too sure about the 195/50s... im personally happy with the azenis for now, they arethe grippiest tires ive owned to date and my driving skills are not any where near decent any ways. but i will definitely keep the star specs and re01rs in mind when these tires get all worn up. if anything i want to figure out a way to reduce bump steer, perhaps flip the tie rod ends upside down and use a longer ball joint and spacer like the SPL ones for 240? ive kept the car at a reaosnable height but i think perhaps the suspension might benefit from roll center adjusters... man i dont know shit about actually having a car perform well. lol.

03-05-2009, 11:42 PM	#133
ronmcdon Post Whore! Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: beverly hills Age: 86 Posts: 4,254 Trader Rating: (6) Feedback Score: 6 reviews	615's might not be the absolute best tires out there, but honestly I think they're fine. actually they're a wonderful autoX & street tire as they grip great when cold. as far as suspension mods go, I recommend keeping it simple to begin with. if it were me, I'd even stick with the stock suspension, get an alignment, & good tires first. just learn to drive it well. add parts later as needed be (not the other way around). I don't disagree with your choice in parts per say, but I think you'd benefit more from investing in seat time more than parts right now. If you feel you don't know enough, then you prob shouldn't be spending too much $ yet on parts. if you're cheap and/or poor just go autoXing like once a month. that's like $60/month. Its nothing. imo, obtaining a suspension you're happy with is a gradual process that requires lots of experimentation & practice. It's also a personal process. What works for 'such and such' might not be optimal for your driving style. You just have to drive, and play with settings step-by-step. If needed be, just research what the H-T guys on the track/autoX section are doing. (the rest of the guys on that site are no more than poseurs and/or drag racers imo). you'll begin to notice patterns that are indicative of what works and what doesn't. spending 2 mins on H-T autoX/RoadRace forum, I ran across this thread. http://honda-tech.com/showthread.php?t=2507289 While you might not be in the same exact situation as the OP, good general advice is given on one's approach to play with your suspension. start simple and move up. I just wouldn't agree with driving around in complete shit parts that are dangerous and inconsistent. at the very least, have something reliable, get good tires and pads.

03-06-2009, 03:56 AM	#140
SleepyFuckinD Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Vegas... Age: 35 Posts: 23 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Had a 2000 Civic Si...matter of fact here's some pics: Car looked like this when i got it(Mostly Stock) needed tons of work: And here's after: Had a bunch of leftover parts that i just got lazy about... After getting rid of the indiglo gauges and some tacky ass shit the original owner had on it i just got bored with it. I got the car for $500 cause the guy had a 350z and he didn't wanna pay insurance for a car he didn't drive nor want anymore. So he sold it to me and i flipped it for $5600 after i did all the work to it. Although i do miss the incredible gas mileage i was getting... I was gonna keep it and turbo it, but then when i saw the price to get the kit and have a shop do it i was like fuck that i'll just buy a 240...

03-06-2009, 03:59 AM	#141
ayuaddict Post Whore! Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Socal Age: 32 Posts: 4,017 Trader Rating: (9) Feedback Score: 9 reviews	you're like Kate Winslet in Titanic. so you gonna get that civic? i dunno, if i had this civic but didnt have my S13 any more, i may be unhappy.

03-06-2009, 09:14 AM	#145
francogt1 Zilvia Member Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: NJ central Age: 32 Posts: 154 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	i had a Honda once too bought it only to take profit out of it i made double the money from what i paid for it it only needed a new timing belt instead of a "new engine" as the seller advised =] the car dint turn for shit the H22 engine was way to heavy but boy did it go in a straight line! __________________

03-06-2009, 09:24 AM	#146
francogt1 Zilvia Member Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: NJ central Age: 32 Posts: 154 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	hows is this for your guys? H22 mated with a S2000 6 speed tranny turbocharged. on a S13 __________________

03-06-2009, 09:32 AM	#147
LeftNutOfGowd Post Whore! Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: O.C Age: 34 Posts: 2,515 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	I miss my 98 Prelude __________________

03-06-2009, 11:54 AM	#150
stiizy Post Whore! Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: NYC Age: 39 Posts: 6,332 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	B16 for life bro.... Baby R i love that motor....

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