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10-03-2017, 08:45 AM | #1 |
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Autocrossing and lapping with a 2 way: who's done it?
I drove my new bone stock 1990 240sx for the 1st time at my very 1st autocross last weekend and had a blast. Actually took top 3 in my class!
2 things I now feel I would gain from upgrading is coilovers and an LSD. As luck would have it I already have those parts laying around. The downside is that the JDM spare diff I have has a KAAZ 2-way in it. I did my research and a lot of people say go with a 1.5-way, 2-way is just for drifting, etc. But some of them who actually ran a 2-way in grip situation actually don't mind it, some love it and say you can fairly easily drive around the downsides. Now, what I have is a 2-way, that's just the way it is and I don't want to go trough the trouble of selling it and trying to find a 1.5 way and possibly have to install in in a pumpkin. So I'd like some more feedback of people who are actually rocking a 2-way diff in a grip context, how you like it and how you drive around its possible shortcomings. Thanks! |
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10-03-2017, 09:54 AM | #2 |
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Kaaz 2 way is super aggressive, it'll be clumsy for your application. I had one in my car shortly, it was just stupid unpredictable understeer. You could literally feel the diff locking and un-locking as you entered the corner. I also ran one of the old Nismo 2-way diffs and it was much better, I think the Kaaz would have been better with better fluid as well. When I put the open diff back in the car I LOVED it in comparison. The car was just so free into the corner, rotated nicely. I honestly think that a 1-way might be the way to go as long as you don't mind the car being a little free on corner entry. All you can do is try it and go from there, but I wouldn't reccomend it...
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10-03-2017, 11:00 AM | #3 | |
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10-03-2017, 01:48 PM | #5 |
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10-05-2017, 10:22 AM | #6 |
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Another thing to take into consideration is your driving style, the overall set up on the car and even your alignment. I've known Racepar1 for a long time and he is a pretty aggressive driver in terms of corner entry and speed, his line is nice and clean, on the other hand I'm not as aggressive so his diff and sway-bar settings would not be a perfect fit for me. Since you have the parts handy just throw them on and see what you think, and adjust from there.
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02-18-2018, 04:23 PM | #7 |
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You may be better off getting a 1way, 2 way is fine for racing type applications but it can create allot of oversteer and if you have grippy tires it can great allot of understeer.
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But this thread covered it pretty well. 2-ways can definitely introduce some off throttle push. Adjusting ramp angles and lock can help some. And you can really fine tune the characteristics by changing these things. |
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I had a Tomei 2-way in my miata and now have a kaaz 2-way in my S13. I definitely didn't feel it locking and unlocking in decel during hard driving but it definitely makes the car less versatile in driving styles. In the miata for example, in a tight autocross, if you weren't entering the corners properly committed with the weight on the front it would tend to understeer slightly. Changing the suspension setup (usually just alignment) to a more oversteer-prone setup will get rid of the majority of understeer. You're supposed to do this anyways when changing something as sensitive to handling as the diff. I also added Ford friction modifier to my 240 diff which is like twice the size of the miata 1.6 diff lol. I think with fewer discs (or rearranged discs) and some friction modifier that would give you a good compromise. Despite the shortcomings (noisy during normal driving, requiring more maintenance, ideal for a narrow category of driving) of any performance part, ANY proper LSD will far outperform an open diff in a performance driving environment. A 2 way might not be as good as a 1.5 way for performance driving but it will be far better than an open diff. |
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