justinhustle

good lord

coils are not the same with different adj/stickaz

all kinds of things vary on model levels between the same company let alone different ones.

if you want budget, get out of the car modding hobby, because there is no point in replacing stock parts that are engineered perfectly fine, for garbage like d2 or like ssautocrap.

if you mod your car, you should remember that an extra 100 dollar or even 50 could mean the difference in a bad accident or normal everyday wear and tear

publicenemy137

yeah one of my D2 coilover seal blew, oil leaked all over. That was with the defective batch though. Not complaints on the replacement batch

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I have d2's and i have had no problems, I dont think they are garbage ive noticed most people that talk bad about them, never even owned them

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Yeah this has been a hard one for me to decypher. Lots of people here hate the D2 and I don't expect them to be as good as some compatition Toda or Kei Office set-ups. However, I was thinking either them or the Megan Racing ones for the money because I will be taking this car to the track as well as driving it on the street. I didn't want to buy a set of Tanabe coil-overs that were more street than track given my budget, I wouldn't want to abuse a nice set of coils like that. Instead, I ahve been searching for a nice set of some comp. style coil-overs so I can drive both street and track. Some like the D2, others don't. The ones I saw were very impressive. The fact that Apexi and Megan Racing come from the same manu. doesn't hurt my chances of buying those at any stretch!! This looks like something to keep open for discussion for a while. Maybe others will get some insightful info on their own set-ups as well..............

SochBAT

To really clarify myself, there are certain lines of coilovers that come off the same line, and get distributed to different companies. 4 companies that come to mind are 1)meganRacing, 2) Apexi 3) D2, 4)Ksports.

MeganRacing and Apexi both get their coilovers from the same company. I think the main difference was color, and oil.
D2 and Ksports come off the same line, ie. both companies having the same rear coilover problem.

better?

SochBAT

MeganRacings coilovers are good for beginners, as previously stated.
Its adjustability is actually felt. Compare adjustability settings on Tein's coilovers and MR/Apex coilovers. i've driven my buddy's car with MRs and its pretty damn sweet for track n street. Gets close to stock ride.

And also, if you gave us a ballpark price on what you are willing to pay for, that'd greatly help.

kazuo

http://www.splparts.com/Parts/S13/Su...rs/default.asp

Too much effort for a simple solution.

You wanna ball on a budget? That's what you need.

Plus, $550 nets you a new set. Can't beat it.

Project D

Wow, for 550 they are probably the best out there for the money. I am looking to spend no more than 1,000 on coil-overs. I was also looking at the Tanabe Sustec Pro S-OC, but they were not adjustable. I am not sure how these would be on a track setting, but I am searching after this post. I also was looking at the Sustec S-S type II, which were adjustable. I have many other suspension parts that I have accumulated already (all from Tanabe) and I was looking at getting a nice set of coil-overs to go with it. I have the subframe bushings, tranny bushings, front and rear strut bars, front fender bracing, and the under brace thus far. One main reason I was looking at Tanabe was the fact I had so many parts from them already, and they have always been a good quality brand. These MR coil-overs seem to be a pretty good deal, especially since they are made right alongside Apexi.

DTS

exacally

d2 has new shocks out which are pimp shit

ive driven mine in -15 degree weather int he snow and they still didnt blow before i got the new redesigned shocks

everyone here talks alot of smack with no actuall expereance

Var

they arent 550. they are a little over 1100. it's 550 for replacement shocks if they blow.

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wtf? little over 1100?

BUY kTS COILOVERS FOR GOD'S SAKE!

what the hell is wrong with you people?

Project D

Ah, I just read that. The KTS seems to be really nice. I'll probably end up doing a little more research though before I make up my mind. This car is not my daily driver, so I don't need something over-priced. However, I would like to have full adjustability freedom and the D2, Megan, and KTS do that for cheap. This will take some time, but I am thinking of doing one of those set-ups to move away from the norm.

HaLo

Wait till i fit some Koni race inserts in my D2 housings, people that are bitching here and putting their JDM-hyped up brands will roll over.

D2s aren't great indeed, but I don't believe in Megan Racing, KTS, Apex, or any other JDM "drifting" coilover...

I do very well auto-xing with my D2s, with minimal efforts. We'll see how they can hold up on National Tour events.

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I figured that drifting would have been hard on any suspension, regardless of what brand it may be. However, I have heard that the new D2 is good for grip driving (auto X, etc..) same as the Megan and KTS. Sounds like I will just have to make up my mind and buy one. If we could get a group pruchase going on the D2, I would be down for something like that or for any of them on that note.

Project D

If no one else has any input for this tpic, I thank the people that have given their .02. It has been very helpful.

MakotoS13

dude, i dont drift and have never bought anything due to a craze in my life. the coilovers i got are from a company that can have me a new set of shocks like next day for 500 or so. they also got me this set within 2 weeks.

KTS is not just a hyped up JDM brand. these things are really nice ESPECIALLY for 1200.

The Hamsterball

Hrm....

well, my problem and other peoples' is.. now that all the group buys are over,
you can find this dampening system in typical performance parts shop for the same price as coilovers such as TEIN HE, Tanabe SUSTEC SS-II, KTS coilovers, and apex n1 EXV.

The lowest price i found searching on froogle was $1050.


I am not saying that deems it to be in the same class as the other coilovers aropund it's price range, but shit...... the price sure did go up.

You groupbuyers that got your sets for $700 shipped are lucky as hell (given that the coilover is doing well so far).

*sigh*
<-- hamsterball, who will probably buy KTS coilovers in a few months

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drift freaq

clarifacation here folks, People keep saying the Megans are the same as the Apexi coilovers, but some of you need to understand, the Apexi coilovers that come off the same assembly line are the N1 EXV's . Not the N1 pro's . A certain Megan Racing distributor, running group buys here, was not explaining that to people and was price comparing the N1 Pros to the Megans. He was misleading people for the sake of sales.
That said , I too feel a lot of those so called Great Deal!! coilovers, have now risen up to the price levels of many of the regular JDM coilovers, thus making them not such a great deal.
If I were to think about the Megan's I would probably lean towards Apexi , Why? Apexi stands behind there products solidly. They have a rebuild facility right here in socal and they have great rebuild pricing. Megans you have to do a part swap or wait for a shipment.
I cannot say a lot about D2's or ksports/KTS. Though the idea of throwing Koni race inserts in a set of D2 housings rocks in my book. What would also rock is if you could replace the crap Taiwan springs that are on them with Eibach ERS race springs for coilovers. Why ? The eibach ERS spring is one of the best springs out there and two they are available in 25 lb increments meaning you tune the daylights out of your spring rates.
Halo,I challenge you to look into this , that is if I don't beat you to it hahahhahahhahhahhaha

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Var

can you tell me how this would make sense? at this point you're better off just buying ground controls and koni race shocks, or ground control with advance design. Or just some Tanabe's or something good out of the box.
You're gonna be left with D2 camber plates...wtf?

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HaLo

Actually, Koni race inserts are double adjustable (rebound and damping) at very reasonable price (around 250-300$/each) and are valves for springs that can toleration over 1000lb/in springs.
ERS are around 60$/each. The point is to use the D2 housing to fit the Koni race insert to have a real coilover design, not a crappy Ground Control over a Koni shock.

The good: you keep the camber plates, pillowball mounts, threaded sleeves for real height adjustment without preloading of springs. Koni is a race proven damper that will take a lot of abuse and is rebuildable to custom specs in North America.

The bad: Costs a lot if that was your plan all along. It's pretty cheap if you replace the blown D2 dampers after 1 year of usage...

I happen to have 4 spare dampers to work on. I just need time and a little money to investigate the Koni solution. I personnally think that a Koni race insert + Eibach race spring on a real coilover design can beat most 2000$ coilover on the market.

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TheSpeedFactor

folks, you really need to dry the D2 with these new shocks. they are great. they feel solid, don't make any noise and provide a very consistant feel.

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The D2 sounds like a decent setup for someone not making a daily driver. The KTS also looks really impressive. The Megan racing setup is nice, but it cannot be easily re-built from what I have found. Correct me on that if I am wrong..........

HaLo

I have D2s with new dampers. They replaced mine.

They are still a bit underdamped and bouncy on an Auto-X / Road race course. I am still not 100% satisfied of the quality of their dampers.

They aren't noisy though.

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I am leaning towards D2 if ther could be a group purchase for them somehow. The quality looked A-1 and they are a good value for the money