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Old 04-26-2006, 08:24 PM   #1
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That's right, I am hip hop oldschool(ish)

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... 2 solid hours of Premier Beats and Guru Rhymes from the first 10 years of their albums/features. One cannot hope for more, I rediscovered it in my collection the other week and been listening since.
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"MF Doom" and "Immortal tecnique"- Pure underground F**k the rest
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Yes underground is the illest. That Gangstarr-Fullclip album is the ish i dont know what i would do without that. But you cant forget about Sole he has some mad talent.
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It has come to my attention that I am now 26 and I must be old or something, but here is my report on why Gangstarr should matter to you. The driving force of Gangstarr's quality product is DJ Premier's production. In such, without Gangstarr, many of the things that you so-called hip hop "fans" hold near and dear would have never happened, and here is the list I compiled:


*Nas - Illmatic (1994) (3 tracks)
"N.Y. State of Mind"
"Memory Lane (Sittin' in da Park)"
"Represent"

The Notorious B.I.G. - Ready to Die (1994) (1 track)
"Unbelievable"

Jay-Z - Reasonable Doubt (1996) (3 tracks)
"D'evils"
"Friend or Foe"

Nas - It Was Written (1996) (2 tracks)
*couldn't find*

The Notorious B.I.G. - Life After Death (1997) (2 tracks)
"Kick In The Door"
"Ten Crack Commandments"

Nas - I Am... (1999) (2 tracks)
"N.Y. State of Mind, Pt. 2"
"Nas Is Like"

Limp Bizkit - Significant Other (1999)
"N 2 Gether Now"

Mos Def - Black on Both Sides (1999) (1 track)
"Mathematics"

Big L - The Big Picture (2000) (3 tracks)
"The Big Picture (Intro)"
"Platinum Plus" (feat. Big Daddy Kane)

Nas - Stillmatic (2001) (1 track)
"2nd Childhood"



... I can find more production credits, but that would require that I find songs on albums that you might not recognize,
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Damn right the new crap that keep coming out with all these fake ghetto fabulous artists can never be at the level as some of undergrounds heaviest hitters.
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mf doom and immortal technique are ok in my book. immortal technique isnt that great in concert IMO.
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Well you're from the bay area I remember hearing a mix tape of some crazy dj's spinning under ground. I think there from Oakland but up in the bay hip hop from over there is totally different its got a bad ass sound.
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Excellent timing Phlip, I was just bumpin' some Group Home and Gangstarr myself. Your absoulutly dead on in regards to his conribution, Premier/Gangstarr has an uncanny ability to make some of the best true hip-hop out there.
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cant takl about old school without mentioning CL SMooth and the rest of teh Just Us League..gotta love the stuff they did with pete rock..

and yes..mf doom and immortal technique are good..but fanboyish..

One Be Lo (One Man Army from Binary Star) takes the cake for me when it comes to underground

and Atmosphere when im Emo hahah
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Daily Operation is still by far Gangstarr's best album imho
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Gangstarr is dope, no doubt. Premier ia among the best producers ever.
Any one cracking The Coup's new joint? My favorite new album.
And on a side note, just finished reading Dan Leroy's Paul's Boutique - a behind the scenes chronicle of the making of one of my all time favorite Hip Hop albums. Highly recommended.
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*Nas - Illmatic (1994) (3 tracks)
"Memory Lane (Sittin' in da Park)"
One of my all-time favorite songs. I absolutely love Nas.

"I rap for listeners, blunt heads, fly ladies and prisoners
Henessey holders and old school ******, then I be dissin a
unofficial that smoke woolie thai
I dropped out of Kooley High, gassed up by a cokehead cutie pie
Jungle survivor, fuck who's the liver
My man put the battery in my back, a difference from Energizer
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My duration's infinite, moneywise or physiology
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Gangstarr will forever be ill.

MF doom's MMM Food album was my favorite. Immortal Technique is ill, as is Nas

But you cannot deny Wu-Tang. or Binary Star. or Giant Panda. or People under the stairs. or little brother. or ATCQ. or Digable Planets. or black star. or Pete Rock's shit. the list goes on and on....

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and no one yet mentioned

DJ Premier - In Deep Concentration

shame on you guys

and you guys never mentioned Guru's Razzmatazz joints

cmon philly phil!

some recent work that i liked from premo was the pitch black joint

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c50ij...h=dj%20premier

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My favorite album from them.

You Know My Steez, Work, Royalty, Above the Clouds, so many bangers on here

I had this on heavy rotation last week in the trunk
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DJ Premier - In Deep Concentration

shame on you guys

and you guys never mentioned Guru's Razzmatazz joints

cmon philly phil!

some recent work that i liked from premo was the pitch black joint

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c50ij...h=dj%20premier

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Logan, you are not giving me near enough credit here, my thread is in reference to what I am listening to right NOW. Have a look here, quick screen shot of the folder on the computer in question, all 3 Jazzmatazz albums (waiting impatiently for part 4):


... and while we're on the subject, here is the corner of my bedroom:

... and a quick screen shot of the properties of the folder on the computer I keep music in:

We can talk music anytime, I am well equipped.
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Phlip you forgot...

Gza Liquid Swords
Wu-Tang 36 Chambers and forever (fell off after that)
Method Man Tical
Ghost Face First Album

And the whole Reasonable Doubt album is just pure classic IMO 22 2's...
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Method Man Tical
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And the whole Reasonable Doubt album is just pure classic IMO 22 2's...
I forgot nothing, I had in mind what I had in mind, I have everything you just named and more, even some of the shitty stuff they did. I liked Wu-Tang, but I was never as fanatic as people seemed to think was cool to be over them.
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I forgot nothing, I had in mind what I had in mind, I have everything you just named and more, even some of the shitty stuff they did. I liked Wu-Tang, but I was never as fanatic as people seemed to think was cool to be over them.
I was a fanatic but still can recognize a bad album. The first round of solo albums and the first two group albums were all pretty good. After that though Kinda sucked to see'em fall off like that. That's ok though. RZA is still a master.
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I was a fanatic but still can recognize a bad album. The first round of solo albums and the first two group albums were all pretty good. After that though Kinda sucked to see'em fall off like that. That's ok though. RZA is still a master.
Good, then you realize that Method Man has only had one "great" album and only Ghost has put out what I personally feel to have been good product in the last little while. Funny thing is that he has done it completely, for the most part, separate of the rest of the group. I will not doubt that Rza is nice on the boards, but I do feel that there are at least 3 producers currently peddling their wares that can outdo him if one was to, say, lock them in a room and have them compete.
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Good, then you realize that Method Man has only had one "great" album and only Ghost has put out what I personally feel to have been good product in the last little while. Funny thing is that he has done it completely, for the most part, separate of the rest of the group. I will not doubt that Rza is nice on the boards, but I do feel that there are at least 3 producers currently peddling their wares that can outdo him if one was to, say, lock them in a room and have them compete.
My opinion, of course.
What producers? I'm curious.

I think as far as mainstream music goes, RZA is somewhat beyond that..Even though he's mostly known for him production in Hip Hop, I think his freindship with Tarentino will help him grow his production in the movie industry were I feel his talents can be more utilized.
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What producers? I'm curious.

I think as far as mainstream music goes, RZA is somewhat beyond that..Even though he's mostly known for him production in Hip Hop, I think his freindship with Tarentino will help him grow his production in the movie industry were I feel his talents can be more utilized.
Keep in mind that this IS my opinion and you are more than welcome to disagree, but I include what I feel to be my reasons.
- Scott Storch - this man's work is not of this planet
- 9th Wonder - peep any of the Little Brother albums
- Premier - see my previous post for his resume
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Gangstarr is dope, no doubt. Premier ia among the best producers ever.
Any one cracking The Coup's new joint? My favorite new album.
And on a side note, just finished reading Dan Leroy's Paul's Boutique - a behind the scenes chronicle of the making of one of my all time favorite Hip Hop albums. Highly recommended.
I don't really like MF Doom. Skillz ain't that great.

And the Coup has a new album?
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