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BustedS13 · 12-31-2008, 08:39 PM

post in this thread if you think spending 30 bucks on a do it yourself oil change is fucking ludicrous.
post in this thread if you think the benefits of using synthetic are minimal at best.
post in this thread if Fram is good enough. you don't even need a wrench thanks to that awesome grip!

i'm seriously.

GSXRJJordan · 12-31-2008, 08:42 PM

Ball bearing turbos love synthetic - journal bearings, especially old ones, are probably happier with heavier conventional.

I can never get the Fram filters off by hand, even after I relocated it. I use OEM Nissan filters for peace of mind

Crap, I didn't read the thread rules before posting.

BustedS13 · 12-31-2008, 08:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GSXRJJordan

Ball bearing turbos love synthetic - journal bearings, especially old ones, are probably happier with heavier conventional.

I can never get the Fram filters off by hand, even after I relocated it. I use OEM Nissan filters for peace of mind

Crap, I didn't read the thread rules before posting.

get outta here fancy pants!

i always use Fram, the only time the filter has ever been stuck was when i let the car sit for two years.

importdude · 12-31-2008, 08:46 PM

hahah
gtx ftw
speically when they have a sale(which is never now since autoparts chains fucking do the bundle crap

az_240 · 01-01-2009, 01:46 AM

I go with Penzoil and a Bosch filter. The Fram ones dont flow as good or something

GSXRJJordan · 01-01-2009, 01:57 AM

Fram filters flow fine at first, and they filter very well. The problem with cheap paper filters though is that they don't flow or filter well after a while (particulates clog the filter element), so you should change them out more regularly (I change filters at every change anyway).

I10cruiser · 01-01-2009, 02:03 AM

meh fram is freee for me so . . well was free for me:P change the oil every 1500 so im not tripping:P . .

Koopa Troopa · 01-01-2009, 02:03 AM

I'll never use anything other than Mobil 1 synthetic in my engines.

Fram filters are the worst filters ever made. Take one apart if you don't believe me however it's pretty much what I'm limited to on base and they've never really presented a problem for me. They are still the worst filter ever made though. Normally I change oil filters every two oil changed but when I use a Fram filter generally I change the filters out before I change the oil. Fuck those filters suck.

However my transmission loves Castrol GTX 20w-50 synthetic with anti sludge compound.

I10cruiser - 1500?! Quit wasting your money. You shouldn't need to change oil for 4,000-5,000 miles.

Matej · 01-01-2009, 02:07 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BustedS13

post in this thread if you think spending 30 bucks on a do it yourself oil change is fucking ludicrous.
post in this thread if you think the benefits of using synthetic are minimal at best.
post in this thread if Fram is good enough. you don't even need a wrench thanks to that awesome grip!

You actually buy oil and a filter and get dirty? You must own a money tree or something. You know you can go to Walmart and get an oil change with a new oil filter and air filter for like 13$, right?

SidewayZ-s14 · 01-01-2009, 02:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Matej

You actually buy oil and a filter and get dirty? You must own a money tree or something. You know you can go to Walmart and get an oil change with a new oil filter and air filter for like 13$, right?

Maybe in Kansas. Out here in California, Walmart charges about $30 for an oil change, It's ridiculous!

I've found my relocation kit to love sTp filters the best...Not sure why?

I10cruiser · 01-01-2009, 02:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Koopa Troopa

I10cruiser - 1500?! Quit wasting your money. You shouldn't need to change oil for 4,000-5,000 miles.

its free so i dont mind:P. . i also get royal purple gear oil for free. . it is a lil over kill for a ka tranny with stock ka . . but i feel the difference

a lil diff:P

smelly240 · 01-01-2009, 05:22 AM

^^royal purple sucks wang anyways so you better change it often. bobistheoilguy.com

here a walmart oil change is 32.99 - same as jiffylube conventional.

on a NA car i'd run conventional if i didnt get syn at work (all we have at our dealership).

i cant use conventional in the 240 or i have to add oil all the time. with the german castrol i never need to add. I dont daily it tho - so it gets one oil change every 6 months (1000-1200 miles maybe - but thats mainly because of the type of use the car gets).

nismo tuned s14 · 01-01-2009, 07:08 AM

I ran conventional oil and Fram filters on my old engine. I never had any problems.

I don't like the Fram filters anymore because it looked like someone just threw some cardboard in there.

After the break-in period of my new engine, I started using synthetic and Nissan OEM filters.

Enna · 01-01-2009, 08:13 AM

I get jiffy lube synthetic and a new filter done for 20 flat. Lil underhanded, but my KA loved it. Gonna probably do it with the SR also.

lflkajfj12123 · 01-01-2009, 08:23 AM

oem filters suck just as bad as fram

there was a thread on it from another nissan board he took them apart

mobil filter seems to be one of the best

***CrimsonRockett*** · 01-01-2009, 09:01 AM

^+1

I used to run Royal Purple, but after a short month of driving, my KA would get super noisy.

Switched over to Mobil1 synthetic, no problems ever since.

Running either Bosch or Mobil1 filters as well.

OEM/FRAM = Fail

Bushido · 01-01-2009, 10:21 AM

castrol gtx 10w30 and a purolator one oil filter for me.

SimpleSexy180 · 01-01-2009, 10:35 AM

i are now confused which to buy

ryguy · 01-01-2009, 10:38 AM

What is this, changing your filter every two oil changes? Thats more important than changing the oil itself. I remember hearing a story about Richard Petty, and how he never actually changed the oil in his personal car but just changed the filters. Don't know if it's true or not.

Oh, and Fram for life. It's all my family has ever used and we have had vehicles that we bought new off the lot and had over 200k on them and were running strong when we sold them. By the way, where the hell are you getting the old school cans of oil?

racepar1 · 01-01-2009, 10:50 AM

Conventional oil sucks. Even the good shit leaves carbon deposits inside the motor. Fram also sucks. Crappy spring washers and shitty paper. People love to talk shit about royal purple, but I have yet to see any conclusive proof that it is any worse then any other oil. I used to use mobil one, but the royal purple keeps my timing chain noise quiet for longer. Don't waste your money on k&n or mobil1 oil filters, just get wix. Oil is the most important thing for the life and performance of your engine, you are an idiot if you cheap out on it. And yes I do think that richard petty did not actually change his oil, just his filters. On a street car you never get the oil hot enough to actually break it down on a mollecular level, it just gets dirty. My old next door neighbor used to do that, he used to be a toolmaker at an aircraft company. He bought the truck new, changed the oil once with synthetic, and cahnged the filter every 3,000mi. The truck had well over 200,000mi on it when he moved away and was still rinning strong.

Goldeneye9mm · 01-01-2009, 11:14 AM

ok my experience w/ royal purple is that it is an awsome oil. for the first 2000 miles after that it pretty much turns into water. it's a great "race" oil for people who actually race their car and change the oil every few weeks. after 2 oil changes w/ royal purple i went to moble one and never had that problem again but i did feel the difference. you can actually make more efficient power w/ poyal purple but it doesn't last. point being if you race your engine and change the oil every few times you run or race than use royal purple. if not, use moble one. and i use factory nissan filters. 5 bux for the part that was designed for your car is well worth it.

dubmasterdee · 01-01-2009, 11:34 AM

what about FRAM tough guard.. haha.. it's like 50 cents more than the orange fram filters...

slideways2004 · 01-01-2009, 11:42 AM

are you guys serious?? you should change the filter every time you do the oil. depending on some engine setups, you still have like 1/4 quart left in the filter. so you're mixing old oil with new oil

BustedS13 · 01-01-2009, 11:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SimpleSexy180

i are now confused which to buy

obviously, buy the 5 quart from wal mart
the oil can is just a google pic, i don't actually buy oil in cans (but i would if it were an option)

and just to echo everybody else... who doesn't change their filter at every oil change? that's more retarded than 30 dollar oil. and that's also why i like fram. they're four bucks.

maybe i'll switch to STP filters. their logo is more old skewl.

S-Nation S13 · 01-01-2009, 12:02 PM

HM..when i first bought the car i changed the oil i used castrol conventional with fram filter (only reason cause i went broke after buyin the car) FAIL!!
i now use Castrol Syntec motor oil with MOBILE 1 oil filter FTMFWBBQ every 2 months call it what you want but ive been doin this for about 2 years havent ran into any problems

to be honest use what you use if it hasnt broken down on you than you must be doing something right!! dont go breakin your wallet just b/c others have used a certain product!!! id rather pay $30 to do my own oil change than to have some punk that works at walmart change it...why spend so much on buyin aftermarket parts/JDM parts/ to only pay "cheap" on a simple oil change if thats the case start buyin ebay parts!!(THATS JUST ME...YOUR NOT ME..SO DONT HATE!!)

GO BIG OR GO HOME!!!

BustedS13 · 01-01-2009, 12:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by S-Nation S13

GO BIG OR GO HOME!!!

saying this on a 240sx forum is an oxymoron

S-Nation S13 · 01-01-2009, 12:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BustedS13

saying this on a 240sx forum is an oxymoron

lol i just thought of that GOOD ONE !! was gonna edit it out but wth ill just leave it there thats what i go by always have and always will basically what i was tryin to say is spend alot on parts why not spend alot on simple maintenance ya or no??

420sx · 01-01-2009, 12:45 PM

this thread is great for broke ass people with busted ass 15 year old KA's. if you put serious money in building your motor you should know about using quality lube and decent filtration is a must.

sure, in my pos Ka coupe that i daily i run rotella with wix.
something my ls1 will NEVER experience.

BustedS13 · 01-01-2009, 12:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by S-Nation S13

lol i just thought of that GOOD ONE !! was gonna edit it out but wth ill just leave it there thats what i go by always have and always will basically what i was tryin to say is spend alot on parts why not spend alot on simple maintenance ya or no??

that's kind of my point. some things don't need to be expensive. your Work lug nuts. your synthetic oil.

S-Nation S13 · 01-01-2009, 01:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BustedS13

that's kind of my point. some things don't need to be expensive. your Work lug nuts. your synthetic oil.

True..what it comes down to is personal references i guess

12-31-2008, 08:39 PM	#1
BustedS13 Post Whore! Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Phoenix AZ Age: 36 Posts: 10,287 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Castrol GTX is fine just fine post in this thread if you think spending 30 bucks on a do it yourself oil change is fucking ludicrous. post in this thread if you think the benefits of using synthetic are minimal at best. post in this thread if Fram is good enough. you don't even need a wrench thanks to that awesome grip! i'm seriously. __________________

12-31-2008, 08:42 PM	#2
GSXRJJordan Post Whore! Join Date: May 2006 Location: << 626 >> Posts: 9,135 Trader Rating: (19) Rides Gallery: GSXRJJordan Feedback Score: 19 reviews	Ball bearing turbos love synthetic - journal bearings, especially old ones, are probably happier with heavier conventional. I can never get the Fram filters off by hand, even after I relocated it. I use OEM Nissan filters for peace of mind Crap, I didn't read the thread rules before posting. __________________ Jordan Innovations has a new web site! www.JordanInnovations.com -- All your favorite FD Pro Drifters love it, trust me -- www.JordanInnovations.com

01-01-2009, 01:57 AM	#6
GSXRJJordan Post Whore! Join Date: May 2006 Location: << 626 >> Posts: 9,135 Trader Rating: (19) Rides Gallery: GSXRJJordan Feedback Score: 19 reviews	Fram filters flow fine at first, and they filter very well. The problem with cheap paper filters though is that they don't flow or filter well after a while (particulates clog the filter element), so you should change them out more regularly (I change filters at every change anyway). __________________ Jordan Innovations has a new web site! www.JordanInnovations.com -- All your favorite FD Pro Drifters love it, trust me -- www.JordanInnovations.com

01-01-2009, 02:03 AM	#7
I10cruiser Post Whore! Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: los angeles Age: 32 Posts: 3,053 Trader Rating: (47) Rides Gallery: I10cruiser Feedback Score: 47 reviews	meh fram is freee for me so . . well was free for me:P change the oil every 1500 so im not tripping:P . . __________________

01-01-2009, 02:03 AM	#8
Koopa Troopa Post Whore! Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: 北谷著, 沖縄県、日本 Posts: 2,565 Trader Rating: (3) Feedback Score: 3 reviews	I'll never use anything other than Mobil 1 synthetic in my engines. Fram filters are the worst filters ever made. Take one apart if you don't believe me however it's pretty much what I'm limited to on base and they've never really presented a problem for me. They are still the worst filter ever made though. Normally I change oil filters every two oil changed but when I use a Fram filter generally I change the filters out before I change the oil. Fuck those filters suck. However my transmission loves Castrol GTX 20w-50 synthetic with anti sludge compound. I10cruiser - 1500?! Quit wasting your money. You shouldn't need to change oil for 4,000-5,000 miles. __________________ Buy my Stillway shifter!

12-31-2008, 08:46 PM	#4
importdude Zilvia FREAK! Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: san j0 Posts: 1,381 Trader Rating: (19) Feedback Score: 19 reviews	hahah gtx ftw speically when they have a sale(which is never now since autoparts chains fucking do the bundle crap

01-01-2009, 01:46 AM	#5
az_240 Post Whore! Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Phx Posts: 3,097 Trader Rating: (41) Feedback Score: 41 reviews	I go with Penzoil and a Bosch filter. The Fram ones dont flow as good or something

01-01-2009, 05:22 AM	#12
smelly240 Nissanaholic! Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Philaburbia Age: 43 Posts: 2,137 Trader Rating: (4) Feedback Score: 4 reviews	^^royal purple sucks wang anyways so you better change it often. bobistheoilguy.com here a walmart oil change is 32.99 - same as jiffylube conventional. on a NA car i'd run conventional if i didnt get syn at work (all we have at our dealership). i cant use conventional in the 240 or i have to add oil all the time. with the german castrol i never need to add. I dont daily it tho - so it gets one oil change every 6 months (1000-1200 miles maybe - but thats mainly because of the type of use the car gets). __________________ HREs on a S13 - check, 6262 - check, Girlfriend.... - nope

01-01-2009, 07:08 AM	#13
nismo tuned s14 Zilvia Junkie Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Nashville Age: 34 Posts: 425 Trader Rating: (2) Feedback Score: 2 reviews	I ran conventional oil and Fram filters on my old engine. I never had any problems. I don't like the Fram filters anymore because it looked like someone just threw some cardboard in there. After the break-in period of my new engine, I started using synthetic and Nissan OEM filters.

01-01-2009, 08:23 AM	#15
lflkajfj12123 Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: 　　　　　　　　 Posts: 8,480 Trader Rating: (20) Feedback Score: 20 reviews	oem filters suck just as bad as fram there was a thread on it from another nissan board he took them apart mobil filter seems to be one of the best

01-01-2009, 10:21 AM	#17
Bushido Post Whore! Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: SFL Posts: 3,562 Trader Rating: (10) Feedback Score: 10 reviews	castrol gtx 10w30 and a purolator one oil filter for me. __________________

01-01-2009, 10:35 AM	#18
SimpleSexy180 Post Whore! Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Cal Posts: 4,750 Trader Rating: (8) Rides Gallery: SimpleSexy180 Feedback Score: 8 reviews	i are now confused which to buy

01-01-2009, 10:38 AM	#19
ryguy Zilvia FREAK! Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Chicago Suburbs Age: 32 Posts: 1,544 Trader Rating: (5) Feedback Score: 5 reviews	What is this, changing your filter every two oil changes? Thats more important than changing the oil itself. I remember hearing a story about Richard Petty, and how he never actually changed the oil in his personal car but just changed the filters. Don't know if it's true or not. Oh, and Fram for life. It's all my family has ever used and we have had vehicles that we bought new off the lot and had over 200k on them and were running strong when we sold them. By the way, where the hell are you getting the old school cans of oil? __________________

01-01-2009, 10:50 AM	#20
racepar1 Post Whore! Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Simi Valley, CA Age: 38 Posts: 9,006 Trader Rating: (106) Rides Gallery: racepar1 Feedback Score: 106 reviews	Conventional oil sucks. Even the good shit leaves carbon deposits inside the motor. Fram also sucks. Crappy spring washers and shitty paper. People love to talk shit about royal purple, but I have yet to see any conclusive proof that it is any worse then any other oil. I used to use mobil one, but the royal purple keeps my timing chain noise quiet for longer. Don't waste your money on k&n or mobil1 oil filters, just get wix. Oil is the most important thing for the life and performance of your engine, you are an idiot if you cheap out on it. And yes I do think that richard petty did not actually change his oil, just his filters. On a street car you never get the oil hot enough to actually break it down on a mollecular level, it just gets dirty. My old next door neighbor used to do that, he used to be a toolmaker at an aircraft company. He bought the truck new, changed the oil once with synthetic, and cahnged the filter every 3,000mi. The truck had well over 200,000mi on it when he moved away and was still rinning strong.

01-01-2009, 11:14 AM	#21
Goldeneye9mm Zilvia Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Baltimore, Maryland Age: 36 Posts: 173 Trader Rating: (2) Feedback Score: 2 reviews	ok my experience w/ royal purple is that it is an awsome oil. for the first 2000 miles after that it pretty much turns into water. it's a great "race" oil for people who actually race their car and change the oil every few weeks. after 2 oil changes w/ royal purple i went to moble one and never had that problem again but i did feel the difference. you can actually make more efficient power w/ poyal purple but it doesn't last. point being if you race your engine and change the oil every few times you run or race than use royal purple. if not, use moble one. and i use factory nissan filters. 5 bux for the part that was designed for your car is well worth it.

01-01-2009, 11:34 AM	#22
dubmasterdee Leaky Injector Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: los angeles Posts: 63 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	what about FRAM tough guard.. haha.. it's like 50 cents more than the orange fram filters... __________________

01-01-2009, 11:42 AM	#23
slideways2004 Nissanaholic! Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Houston Age: 35 Posts: 1,706 Trader Rating: (6) Feedback Score: 6 reviews	are you guys serious?? you should change the filter every time you do the oil. depending on some engine setups, you still have like 1/4 quart left in the filter. so you're mixing old oil with new oil

01-01-2009, 12:02 PM	#25
S-Nation S13 Post Whore! Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: LAND of the LOST Posts: 4,082 Trader Rating: (92) Feedback Score: 92 reviews	HM..when i first bought the car i changed the oil i used castrol conventional with fram filter (only reason cause i went broke after buyin the car) FAIL!! i now use Castrol Syntec motor oil with MOBILE 1 oil filter FTMFWBBQ every 2 months call it what you want but ive been doin this for about 2 years havent ran into any problems to be honest use what you use if it hasnt broken down on you than you must be doing something right!! dont go breakin your wallet just b/c others have used a certain product!!! id rather pay $30 to do my own oil change than to have some punk that works at walmart change it...why spend so much on buyin aftermarket parts/JDM parts/ to only pay "cheap" on a simple oil change if thats the case start buyin ebay parts!!(THATS JUST ME...YOUR NOT ME..SO DONT HATE!!) GO BIG OR GO HOME!!!

01-01-2009, 12:45 PM	#28
420sx Post Whore! Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Texas Age: 38 Posts: 3,960 Trader Rating: (0) Rides Gallery: 420sx Feedback Score: 0 reviews	this thread is great for broke ass people with busted ass 15 year old KA's. if you put serious money in building your motor you should know about using quality lube and decent filtration is a must. sure, in my pos Ka coupe that i daily i run rotella with wix. something my ls1 will NEVER experience. __________________ hydropgrahics! ls1......

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