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theronin · 10-16-2008, 11:35 AM

my b&m version 2 never rattled. cant wait to get one on my new car.

BlueKpS13 · 10-17-2008, 03:40 AM

B&M V2 doesnt rattle, if it does then yours is defective, or you fucked it up. megan V2s rarely ever rattles, i have a V1 from Megan (DONT BUY!!!) and i hate it, and THAT set up rattles holys shit i hate it (and i dont have a radio) cant wait tp put on my shit and really drown out all the noise

lightsource · 03-11-2009, 10:51 AM

Update...

I know it's kind of a hassle, but if you want to keep the weight/boot holder take off the c clip and apply RTV inside the weight and around the shaft of the short shifter, slide the weight on to the shifter and clean up all extra RTV, you should apply some around the corner at the bottom where the weight sits. Make sure you let the RTV sit for a while as the more it dries the better it holds the weight in place.

This completely eliminated my rattling problem.

melikepaint · 03-11-2009, 11:32 AM

i have the same thing and the same problem.
its annoying as hell. i have been told that its basically just poor quality, def not hating on megan products cause they are great, but thats what i was told. someone told me that its that little bity plastic part thats on the very bottom tip of the shifter that snaps into the tranny. in my kit it was supllied. the guy i asked about it said i should have used the part that was off the factory shifter, but i didnt have factory shifter so i couldnt. hope my info helps you out man.

lightsource · 03-11-2009, 11:45 AM

Well like I said I've figured the problem out, it's not the plastic busing that goes into the shifter port.

I'm 100% it's the weight, so if you get the time, just take the c clip off and secure it... I was originally going to have it welded but I didn't have time to have that done.

But trust me, it's the weight, what happens is since it's not completely solid it turns and vibrates when rpm's get higher. I took the weight off and it completely fixed the problem, but if you follow the RTV instructions, you'll fix the problem, I'm sure of it.

soreballz · 03-11-2009, 02:13 PM

Alex (S13CoupeLuv) has a B&M V1 that rattles like a snake. lol... It sounds like a really bad timing chain rattle, only 50x louder and inside the cabin... Shit is terrible.

G240 · 03-11-2009, 02:41 PM

Hmm mine hums, not sure if its the short shifter, clutch chatter, or driveshaft vibration. I'll figure it out eventually.

Banegraphix · 03-11-2009, 03:01 PM

My Isis shifter doesn't rattle at all in my track car and I beat the shit out of it

gyula hlavati · 03-20-2009, 09:27 AM

I have B&M V2 and it does not rattle.I'm very happy because my previous short shifter rattled a lot and it drove me crazy.I think B&M worth the money and with ARC titanium shift knob shifts perfectly.

BPFTW · 03-28-2009, 07:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Banegraphix

My Isis shifter doesn't rattle at all in my track car and I beat the shit out of it

Mine does...I might try taping it, and if that works then I'll use some rtv. I didn't even think about that weight being the culprit

reaxion · 03-28-2009, 07:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by derek_s13

b&m v2 doesn't rattle from everything i've heard.

i've got a c's short shifter and it never rattles.

short throws are overrated anyway. it's not worth the annoyance.

plus 1, ive got a C's on my s14 and it never rattled once for me

lightsource · 03-28-2009, 12:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BPFTW

Mine does...I might try taping it, and if that works then I'll use some rtv. I didn't even think about that weight being the culprit

I say don't use tape, it just heats up and once it looses it's grip it's gonna get sticky and all over the weight, just do the RTV the first time...

Quote:

Originally Posted by reaxion

plus 1, ive got a C's on my s14 and it never rattled once for me

Yeah, C's & B&M are Def. of higher quality. I don't regret not getting one but I will be buying one to test it out. Hopefully the throws are even shorter.

landins13 · 03-28-2009, 01:40 PM

Ikeya Formula Sequential Shifter S13 S14 Silvia 180SX HCR32 ECR33 Skyline

Buy this ^^^^^ it doesnt rattle, and it increases your pimp factor 190%

lightsource · 03-28-2009, 03:27 PM

I always wondered what would happen if you were in 1st and you accidentally put it in reverse...

TravisSW · 03-28-2009, 05:18 PM

Everybody talks and mentions about the B&M Version 2 short shifter.

I searched and I could not find such a product, even at the B&M website. Maybe somebody has a direct link to this? lol

ronmcdon · 03-28-2009, 05:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lightsource

I always wondered what would happen if you were in 1st and you accidentally put it in reverse...

with the ikeya formula shifter, you have to pull a lever of some sorts before you shift to reverse.
you also have shift to neutral before going to reverse iirc.
I've tried the ikeya shifter before and personally don't care too much for it.
I like to downshift directly to 2nd or 3rd from 4th or 5th.

ronmcdon · 03-28-2009, 05:25 PM

Good Info!

I have the Mazworx shifter that came with the Z32 tranny convo kit.
http://www.mazworx.com/index.php?l=p..._detail&p=2768

Don't know if its the shifter or its my car, but it rattles horribly cruising at 5th.
I will take your advice and use electrical tape for now.

also, what is this 'RTV' you speak of?
Pics to illustrate precisely where you apply this wondrous substance would be appreciated.

Either that, or use the excuse to spend $$$ on a C's.
It's already given me excuse to upgrade my speakers

lightsource · 03-29-2009, 01:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ronmcdon

I will take your advice and use electrical tape for now.

also, what is this 'RTV' you speak of?
Pics to illustrate precisely where you apply this wondrous substance would be appreciated.

I recommend against it, it won't last, and it just leads to more cleanup. You WILL have to use RTV or something better than electrical tape, the electrical tape's adhesive WILL melt and get the shifter super sticky.

RTV - Ace - Auto: Automotive Adhesives: RTV Silicone

It's used for making gaskets or water & sometimes oil applications depending on how hot the oil is. Never for exhaust, it would get too hot and melt.

The application really isn't difficult at all, there's a C-Clip that holds the weight on... You remove that and once that is removed, you apply RTV to where the weight would be sitting, you then put the weight back on, make sure you have a towel/cloth/rag somewhere nearby because the RTV will seep out, clean it up, and apply some around the neck where the c-clip used to be. Let it cool, voila no more rattling.

TanaMU · 03-29-2009, 01:34 PM

Actually, i do believe that the rattling is transmitted from the transmission up through the shifter. the stock shifter has a vibration damper in it, and aftermarket shifters do not. Just live with it.

lightsource · 03-29-2009, 01:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TanaMU

Actually, i do believe that the rattling is transmitted from the transmission up through the shifter. the stock shifter has a vibration damper in it, and aftermarket shifters do not. Just live with it.

Well yes... The initial vibration IS transmitted from the transmission... But the shifter itself it's just rattling on its own.

The stock shifter is a one piece or two piece solid shifter. Either way it's coated with whatever it's coated with. If I could coat my short shifter w. that I would.

Trust me, it's not something you have to live with... I don't.

flip3d · 03-29-2009, 02:20 PM

wow. just dont buy megan. B&M v2 ftw.

ronmcdon · 03-29-2009, 04:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lightsource

I recommend against it, it won't last, and it just leads to more cleanup. You WILL have to use RTV or something better than electrical tape, the electrical tape's adhesive WILL melt and get the shifter super sticky.

RTV - Ace - Auto: Automotive Adhesives: RTV Silicone

It's used for making gaskets or water & sometimes oil applications depending on how hot the oil is. Never for exhaust, it would get too hot and melt.

The application really isn't difficult at all, there's a C-Clip that holds the weight on... You remove that and once that is removed, you apply RTV to where the weight would be sitting, you then put the weight back on, make sure you have a towel/cloth/rag somewhere nearby because the RTV will seep out, clean it up, and apply some around the neck where the c-clip used to be. Let it cool, voila no more rattling.

Thanks for clarifying that!

With the RTV though, is this something that's easy to reverse if I applied the adhesive wrong the first time around?
I know with the tape it might leave some residue, but at least I can clean it off, even if its a hassle.

lightsource · 03-29-2009, 05:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ronmcdon

Thanks for clarifying that!

With the RTV though, is this something that's easy to reverse if I applied the adhesive wrong the first time around?
I know with the tape it might leave some residue, but at least I can clean it off, even if its a hassle.

It's only a gasket, so some brute force could take it off. But the only way to do it INCORRECTLY (that I can think of) is if you like... didn't push the weight all the way down and the RTV cured while the weight was higher up. Other than that... It's kind of fail proof.

apexi240sx · 03-30-2009, 01:48 PM

thats why i stick to the OEM knob... the greddy counterwieghted knob is nice too... but durning hott weather..forget it!

besTint · 04-11-2009, 02:19 AM

my b&m never rattled, and my c's now dont rattle.

megan? haha, ill just leave it at that.

xs240 · 04-11-2009, 07:36 PM

ive got a race clutch/flywheel combined with peak performance tranny mount and cusco engine mounts... i got a megan racing v2 shifter from fr sport... initial feel was AMAZING but after literally 2-3 days it started having looseness. Right now i have so much play about 1"+ of movement.. its garbage. When it 'worked' from 5000rpm the car was like a raging lion and i could feel the vibgration in my hand holding it.. and this was with the 2G DSm heavy shift knob that ams performance sells! after those 2-3 days it loosenesd and as is now with 1" of play but the noise went away but its a useles piece of shit

On top of that from the beginning the shifter could move on its axis if i can explain that.... it was never fixed in position it kinda moves rotates if that makes sense and ican see the little springs on the side inside moving with the lever of sorts that goes across horizontally if you looked down into it.. if oppl understand what i mean

All these pronblems! i want a shifter that shifts short and fast precisely and doesnt rattle... none of the above provlems...

Is the b&m v2 really that great and who sells it. all i gotta say is dont waste money on piece of shit megan products

SochBAT · 04-12-2009, 02:37 AM

B&M really IS that amazing.

Nissan 240SX short shifter B&M 45088
Slowboy Racing, Inc. :: Nissan :: 350Z :: Drivetrain :: Short Shifters :: B&M :: 240sx, Skyline Short Shifter
PDM Racing - Drivetrain

I have had it personally, and wouldn't recommend anything else.

Then again, I am looking into purchasing a similar design made by CosmoRacing.

Street Tuning, BMW Performance Parts, HONDA Performance Parts, Auto Parts - COSMO Racing Online

I had their SOHC crank pulley, and it was amazing. Never have heard a bad thing about em.

gsxr141 · 05-14-2009, 08:54 PM

i ordered a circuit sports short shifter from touge-factory, and i got an isis somehow. well that's another story. i also got a peak performance street trans mount at the same time.
the first 2 days were awesome, no rattles and great feel. now it rattles all the time, and when i shift 1-2 there's some synchro noise? it doesn't happen all the time, but enough to worry me.
i guess i'll try the low buck repairs mentioned, and if they don't work i'll just get the b&m shifter.

ixfxi · 05-14-2009, 09:25 PM

you guys realize that the upper sleeve is ONLY there for to secure the shift boot. i threw the fuckin insert into the garbage and zip-tied the boot to a smaller diameter.

i also tossed their fucking shift knob into the dumpster.

v1 B&M and no rattles.

FusionR240sx · 05-14-2009, 11:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by derek_s13

b&m v2 doesn't rattle from everything i've heard.

i've got a c's short shifter and it never rattles.

short throws are overrated anyway. it's not worth the annoyance.

so what do u have a short shifter for then?

yea my megan v1 rattles as well.

who cares.
barely hear it over the exhaust/tire noise/music/girl bitching about her tits hurtting from the coilovers.

03-28-2009, 01:40 PM	#43
landins13 Zilvia Addict Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Baltimore Posts: 986 Trader Rating: (3) Feedback Score: 3 reviews	Ikeya Formula Sequential Shifter S13 S14 Silvia 180SX HCR32 ECR33 Skyline Buy this ^^^^^ it doesnt rattle, and it increases your pimp factor 190% __________________ NO HANDS IN PANTS!!

03-28-2009, 05:18 PM	#45
TravisSW Nissanaholic! Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Orange County, CA Age: 37 Posts: 2,071 Trader Rating: (9) Feedback Score: 9 reviews	Everybody talks and mentions about the B&M Version 2 short shifter. I searched and I could not find such a product, even at the B&M website. Maybe somebody has a direct link to this? lol __________________ 1986 Porsche 944 Turbo (951) 1995 Nissan 240sx (S14) Miss ya.

04-11-2009, 02:19 AM	#55
besTint Post Whore! Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Stanton, CA Posts: 2,641 Trader Rating: (81) Rides Gallery: besTint Feedback Score: 81 reviews	my b&m never rattled, and my c's now dont rattle. megan? haha, ill just leave it at that. __________________ http://squarespokes.com/

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10-17-2008, 03:40 AM	#32
BlueKpS13 Zilvia Member Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Wa Age: 31 Posts: 287 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	B&M V2 doesnt rattle, if it does then yours is defective, or you fucked it up. megan V2s rarely ever rattles, i have a V1 from Megan (DONT BUY!!!) and i hate it, and THAT set up rattles holys shit i hate it (and i dont have a radio) cant wait tp put on my shit and really drown out all the noise

03-11-2009, 10:51 AM	#33
lightsource Zilvia FREAK! Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Compton, CA Posts: 1,153 Trader Rating: (41) Feedback Score: 41 reviews	Update... I know it's kind of a hassle, but if you want to keep the weight/boot holder take off the c clip and apply RTV inside the weight and around the shaft of the short shifter, slide the weight on to the shifter and clean up all extra RTV, you should apply some around the corner at the bottom where the weight sits. Make sure you let the RTV sit for a while as the more it dries the better it holds the weight in place. This completely eliminated my rattling problem.

03-11-2009, 11:32 AM	#34
melikepaint Leaky Injector Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Cordova, TN Age: 35 Posts: 80 Trader Rating: (2) Feedback Score: 2 reviews	i have the same thing and the same problem. its annoying as hell. i have been told that its basically just poor quality, def not hating on megan products cause they are great, but thats what i was told. someone told me that its that little bity plastic part thats on the very bottom tip of the shifter that snaps into the tranny. in my kit it was supllied. the guy i asked about it said i should have used the part that was off the factory shifter, but i didnt have factory shifter so i couldnt. hope my info helps you out man.

03-11-2009, 11:45 AM	#35
lightsource Zilvia FREAK! Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Compton, CA Posts: 1,153 Trader Rating: (41) Feedback Score: 41 reviews	Well like I said I've figured the problem out, it's not the plastic busing that goes into the shifter port. I'm 100% it's the weight, so if you get the time, just take the c clip off and secure it... I was originally going to have it welded but I didn't have time to have that done. But trust me, it's the weight, what happens is since it's not completely solid it turns and vibrates when rpm's get higher. I took the weight off and it completely fixed the problem, but if you follow the RTV instructions, you'll fix the problem, I'm sure of it.

03-11-2009, 02:41 PM	#37
G240 Zilvia Junkie Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Houston Posts: 349 Trader Rating: (5) Feedback Score: 5 reviews	Hmm mine hums, not sure if its the short shifter, clutch chatter, or driveshaft vibration. I'll figure it out eventually.

03-11-2009, 03:01 PM	#38
Banegraphix Leaky Injector Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Tampa Age: 39 Posts: 111 Trader Rating: (1) Feedback Score: 1 reviews	My Isis shifter doesn't rattle at all in my track car and I beat the shit out of it

03-20-2009, 09:27 AM	#39
gyula hlavati Leaky Injector Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Jacksonville,Florida Age: 41 Posts: 123 Trader Rating: (4) Feedback Score: 4 reviews	I have B&M V2 and it does not rattle.I'm very happy because my previous short shifter rattled a lot and it drove me crazy.I think B&M worth the money and with ARC titanium shift knob shifts perfectly.

03-28-2009, 03:27 PM	#44
lightsource Zilvia FREAK! Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Compton, CA Posts: 1,153 Trader Rating: (41) Feedback Score: 41 reviews	I always wondered what would happen if you were in 1st and you accidentally put it in reverse...

03-28-2009, 05:25 PM	#47
ronmcdon Post Whore! Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: beverly hills Age: 86 Posts: 4,254 Trader Rating: (6) Feedback Score: 6 reviews	Good Info! I have the Mazworx shifter that came with the Z32 tranny convo kit. http://www.mazworx.com/index.php?l=p..._detail&p=2768 Don't know if its the shifter or its my car, but it rattles horribly cruising at 5th. I will take your advice and use electrical tape for now. also, what is this 'RTV' you speak of? Pics to illustrate precisely where you apply this wondrous substance would be appreciated. Either that, or use the excuse to spend $$$ on a C's. It's already given me excuse to upgrade my speakers

03-29-2009, 01:34 PM	#49
TanaMU Zilvia Member Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Vancouver Posts: 151 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Actually, i do believe that the rattling is transmitted from the transmission up through the shifter. the stock shifter has a vibration damper in it, and aftermarket shifters do not. Just live with it.

03-29-2009, 02:20 PM	#51
flip3d Zilvia FREAK! Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Ft Lauderdale, FL Age: 33 Posts: 1,473 Trader Rating: (1) Feedback Score: 1 reviews	wow. just dont buy megan. B&M v2 ftw.

03-30-2009, 01:48 PM	#54
apexi240sx Zilvia Member Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Las Vegas, NV, San Fernando Valley, CA Age: 39 Posts: 255 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	thats why i stick to the OEM knob... the greddy counterwieghted knob is nice too... but durning hott weather..forget it!

04-11-2009, 07:36 PM	#56
xs240 BANNED Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: . Posts: 437 Trader Rating: (1) Feedback Score: 1 reviews	ive got a race clutch/flywheel combined with peak performance tranny mount and cusco engine mounts... i got a megan racing v2 shifter from fr sport... initial feel was AMAZING but after literally 2-3 days it started having looseness. Right now i have so much play about 1"+ of movement.. its garbage. When it 'worked' from 5000rpm the car was like a raging lion and i could feel the vibgration in my hand holding it.. and this was with the 2G DSm heavy shift knob that ams performance sells! after those 2-3 days it loosenesd and as is now with 1" of play but the noise went away but its a useles piece of shit On top of that from the beginning the shifter could move on its axis if i can explain that.... it was never fixed in position it kinda moves rotates if that makes sense and ican see the little springs on the side inside moving with the lever of sorts that goes across horizontally if you looked down into it.. if oppl understand what i mean All these pronblems! i want a shifter that shifts short and fast precisely and doesnt rattle... none of the above provlems... Is the b&m v2 really that great and who sells it. all i gotta say is dont waste money on piece of shit megan products

04-12-2009, 02:37 AM	#57
SochBAT Post Whore! Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Abilene, TX Age: 35 Posts: 6,428 Trader Rating: (9) Rides Gallery: SochBAT Feedback Score: 9 reviews	B&M really IS that amazing. Nissan 240SX short shifter B&M 45088 Slowboy Racing, Inc. :: Nissan :: 350Z :: Drivetrain :: Short Shifters :: B&M :: 240sx, Skyline Short Shifter PDM Racing - Drivetrain I have had it personally, and wouldn't recommend anything else. Then again, I am looking into purchasing a similar design made by CosmoRacing. Street Tuning, BMW Performance Parts, HONDA Performance Parts, Auto Parts - COSMO Racing Online I had their SOHC crank pulley, and it was amazing. Never have heard a bad thing about em.

05-14-2009, 08:54 PM	#58
gsxr141 Zilvia Junkie Join Date: May 2008 Location: rochester Posts: 327 Trader Rating: (3) Feedback Score: 3 reviews	i ordered a circuit sports short shifter from touge-factory, and i got an isis somehow. well that's another story. i also got a peak performance street trans mount at the same time. the first 2 days were awesome, no rattles and great feel. now it rattles all the time, and when i shift 1-2 there's some synchro noise? it doesn't happen all the time, but enough to worry me. i guess i'll try the low buck repairs mentioned, and if they don't work i'll just get the b&m shifter.

05-14-2009, 09:25 PM	#59
ixfxi Post Whore! Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: bangin on my chest Account: BANNED #fucksupreme Age: 79 Posts: 5,923 Trader Rating: (3) Feedback Score: 3 reviews	you guys realize that the upper sleeve is ONLY there for to secure the shift boot. i threw the fuckin insert into the garbage and zip-tied the boot to a smaller diameter. i also tossed their fucking shift knob into the dumpster. v1 B&M and no rattles.